any photos from the red booth? (like to see someone holding prototype to get an idea of size)

peace

dalen

They have some over at DVXuser but I can't download them:(
When do the we get som real pics of the beast here at DVinfo?

They have some over at DVXuser but I can't download them:(
When do the we get som real pics of the beast here at DVinfo?

The beast was kept under locked cabinets much as the HVX200 was last year. I did however shoot some video and am working on getting all footage and stills uploaded and linkable from here. Stay tuned!

-gb-

How big/small is it? It looks tiny?

It ain't that small. Working on getting some photos ready for you.

How big/small is it? It looks tiny?

It reminds me of a camera that's in an underwater housing if you can imagine that size.

-gb-

I imagine underwaterhouses beeing quite big?
So I'm not the only one thinking this thing looks like a underwater house;)
I'd say it could be a weapon from some recent videogames too!

Still like it though, and I'd like to thank you guys working so hard for us here in Europe!

Here are nine photos I took today. Go get 'em.

That one booth photo that says "RED renders obsolescence obsolete" has Frederic Haubrich in it. He's one of our RED forum moderators.

http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/booth1.jpg
http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/booth2.jpg
http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/cagecooke1.jpg
http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/cagecooke2.jpg
http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/cagecooke3.jpg
http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/cam1.jpg
http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/cam2.jpg
http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/gunner1.jpg
http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/gunner2.jpg

More later, gotta run now.

Chris, thanks for the pictures.
Are there pictures with somebody holding the mockup or where you can see a total shot of somebody standing next to it or something, to get a better idea of how big it is?

Thanks again, can't wait to read and see more,

OH MY GOD! GREY..... That's IT... I'm in love!

Those images look like the ptototype was created on one of those 3D printers that were at SIGGRAH

I'm hosting this on my own "server", so hopefully it'll take the beating :)

http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3588.JPG
http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3589.JPG
http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3590.JPG
http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3599.JPG
http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3600.JPG
http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3616.JPG
http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3623.JPG
http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3634.JPG
http://www.visuar.com/DVi/Red/IMG_3672.JPG

Enjoy!

p.s. please don't host these images on other sites or link directly to them, just link to this thread or forum. THANKS!

Looks like a studio cam. Is it? I wonder what the dimensions are?

Here are nine photos I took today. Go get 'em.
More later, gotta run now.

Thanks!

Something tells me brushed steel and/or gunmetal gray won't be the production version color. Are dimensions and weight posted anywhere?

Are there pictures with somebody holding the mockup or where you can see a total shot of somebody standing next to it or something, to get a better idea of how big it is?

Everything is behind glass, so you can't touch it or pick it up. Sorry. We'll see
what we can arrange for you guys!

I like the idea. But will it work? It promises alot and looks great but it seems too good to be true. If it does live up to the hype it may just change everything.

The real question is....walking around with that thing will we look more like GI JOE sigma 6 or Batman 8)

Frederic is part of the team? I'm surprised, and yet, not surprised!

heath

Just saying thanks for the great PICS Chris and Rob!

Best regards,

Andrew Hoffman

great pics. Love the price and the modular idea!

I agree - everything about it looks awesome.
In terms of size, it does look really tiny - not much bigger than a DVX100 or something like that - is that about right, or is it a lot larger? With the cage, I'm sure it appears larger, but the actual camera looks rather tiny.

Yeah, thanks for the photos. Is is just me, or does the Red Logo look like that Staples Easy button? Camera look pretty cool though.

I thought it looks like HAL from 2001 Space.

I love the specs and it looks like a futuristic ray gun.. Does anyone else besides me picture showing up to an event and in todays hightened security, be aproached by security thinking that you have a shoulder mounted missle system. Especially with having a gun mount... At least if I had one slung on my shoulder, I wouldnt have to worry about shooting in bad neighborhoods.

No offence.. this camera is butt ugly. Also.. 17 grand is a sweet price with all those specs.. but then you have to spend even more money on an HD array just to record with the darn thing.. if it records.. i wanna see results.. not a paper release.

but then you have to spend even more money on an HD array just to record with the darn thing.. if it records.. i wanna see results.. not a paper release.

You can record up to 2K to inexpensive SATA drives by using their codec (AFAIK). Would you rather RED keep everything a secret until the day it ships the camera? I'd prefer to be let in on the development cycle personally. IMHO the RED developers are showing a lot of respect for the community for sharing this much info while it is still being developed.

Dead sexy! Cheers to Jim and his team!

I'm just scared for some documentaries, the gun thing and shiny looks might not be a good idea. I would prefer the cam stays simple, mat and unnoticed (Just like the grey resin samples). But for other things I guess it needs to sparkle a little.

Hi folks. I did some rough editing last evening and put the file up last night but it went to the wrong directory. Had Chris move the file into the correct one very early this morning.

Here it is....

http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/redboothhighlights%20reel.movx

Rename the file from ".movx" to ".mov"

disclaimer: 65mb file size, h.264, half resolution, some video a bit shakey as I was suspending camera overhead on a monopod...but it's good enough for you to listen to the audio.

-gb-

Hi folks. I did some rough editing last evening and put the file up last night but it went to the wrong directory. Had Chris move the file into the correct one very early this morning.

Here it is....

http://media.dvinfo.net/nab/redboothhighlights%20reel.movx

Rename the file from ".movx" to ".mov"

disclaimer: 65mb file size, h.264, half resolution, some video a bit shakey as I was suspending camera overhead on a monopod...but it's good enough for you to listen to the audio.

-gb-

Thanks for the footage, Greg!
It's so cool when they show the price and everyone begins clapping and shouting :-)

I don't know. Giving the camera a shoulder mount in the same form factor as a rifle butt seems downright nutty to me. Wouldn't it be awkward and unstable? Shouldn't the weight rest on your shoulder? The reason rifles are designed like that is so your shoulder can absorb the recoil. There is no recoil on a camcorder. And as has been mentioned, in today's climate you couldn't use it in public like that. You'd be risking your life. Imagine that thing in the hands of a news crew in the middle of war zone. Is there something I'm not getting here?

Awesome! Just Awesome! If this camera delivers as promised, then all thats left to differentiate one creative producer from another is talent!

That's all that differentiates them now - a camera is not what's holding you back......

And as has been mentioned, in today's climate you couldn't use it in public like that. You'd be risking your life.

Yeah, that one probably needs a "rethink". If you were in a warzone (like D.C. for instance) you'd last 2 hours.

Perhaps someone can design a series of skins that can be pulled over the camera depending on the setting... solid black for the tourist look, camo for the embedded reporter, pepsi can logo for the superbowl crowd, boom box grill for the 'hood, the sky's the limit!

It's a blaster. "Not as elegant as a light saber; a clumsy weapon from a far less civilized time."

I don't think I want to get "shot" for shooting video. Does everything cinema now have to be based on videogames? Wasn't there a time when it was about function, and form followed. Now it's function follows form, movie plot follows the videogame :\

It's a blaster. "Not as elegant as a light saber; a clumsy weapon from a far less civilized time."

I don't think I want to get "shot" for shooting video. Does everything cinema now have to be based on videogames? Wasn't there a time when it was about function, and form followed. Now it's function follows form, movie plot follows the videogame :\

RED has asked the opinion and advice of users and professional DP's, so although the camera looks like a weapon out of Quake, who knows, it's very comfortable to work with.
It's a completely new design, and many people seem to respond negative on it, because they are not used to it. But first we should try it out, or wait untill the user reports come, and THEN you can complain about the function and form.

Need to add that there is actually a cage type enclosure. The camera is modular and the 'gun mount' is just one option. It's NOT the only way to operate the camera. It's a specialty device to get certain 'shots' (pardon the pun).

Another option is similar to a rig that's available for other cameras where you have 2 handles in front of you and a third extension behind you for counterweighting. You can see that in the basic structure in that first scene of the camera before he shows the gun mount.

Got to run, have more footage encoding now for upload. Was hoping my video would give you folks a feeling of being there for the announcement as we were.

regards,

-gb-

Yeah, I was hesitant to air a gripe on it, since as you say, it could actually turn out to be pretty comfortable. I really am bothered by the potential for a serious, and unnessary mishap because of it though. If you were to start pointing it around in the middle of Times Square there would be running and screaming. I'm sure of it. Maybe it's designed for nature shooting or something though. They do have that 300m lens and Oakley is a pretty outdoor-activity-centric company. Thanks much for the time you guys are putting into this. We're all appreciative of being able to see these shots.

And to be honest guys, I am concentrating on 'videography' to give you all some moving images and am relying on Rob and Chris among others to get all the juicy details.

Thanks for the footage, Greg!
It's so cool when they show the price and everyone begins clapping and shouting :-)

You are most welcome! I was hoping to do live streaming shots but we couldn't get all the tech details worked out in time so server uploads are going to have to do it.

-gb-

Doesn't really appeal to me. I think it would be front heavy.

I kinda support the shot gun idea. Would have to try it but it would be alot easier to keep steady. The thing doesn't look that big. But the idea of it looking like a gun would cause lots of problems. Redefines "shooting" a film.

I don't know about it causing as many problems as people think. With a lens mounted on it along with some other accessories, I don't think it'll be as weapon-like as people think, especially if it stays the colour it currently is. Personally though, I agree with a previous poster with the fact that a black finish would be much more desirable.

is it working prototype in the cage? Do they show it in the action as well?

Don't get me wrong, I'd probably buy it just because it looks like a gun 8)

is it working prototype in the cage? Do they show it in the action as well?

No, it was a non-working prototype. They said this on forehand, that they wouldn't have working prototypes at NAB. They hope to have footage at this Fall, and shippin working cameras (in small quantities) at the end of the year.

You haven't seen the shoulder mount yet. What they have shown is the "gun"
mount. As far as I understand it they are doing a "real" shoulder mount as well.

I'm hesitant to get hyped about this camcorder...remember this back at NAB in 2004:

http://www.kinetta.com/photos/

it never happened!

the kinetta never happened because it was and still is waiting for 3rd party sensor and other 3rd party items PLUS it never had MONEY behind it ..it never committed to a approx date .. it has always been when the sensor arrives ... i believe it used the sensor model before the one the SI digital camera is using now .. so the sensor is available but i believe now kinetta wants to go 4k and is waiting for a sensor to be developed (question mark ..; i am on a french keyboard and it does not have all the keys plus keys are in different places )

RedCame Definitely had a weapons grade look to it. Jim Jannard was a very gracious guy. Sounds and looks like a serious project, being carefully revealed on a time-release basis.

Chris, Greg...

It was great meeting you and the other lads tonight at the LAFCPUG bash at the Rio. Nice to put some faces to the names. You guys do a great job.


Regards,

Jack

the kinetta never happened because it was and still is waiting for 3rd party sensor and other 3rd party items PLUS it never had MONEY behind it ..it never committed to a approx date .. it has always been when the sensor arrives ...

speaking of devil... was Red's mysterium sensor presented in NAB? It have been asked many times but i still wonder where Red will manufacture them.
I remember how some years ago Samsung started to manufacture DDR memory modules for PC
it took about a year start real production. They built up everything from groundzero. It was huge project, really huge. You have to keep in mind thereby that massproduction of memory is much more less complex because of long history of this kind of technology sector. It means they have good and well tested tools to carry out. And of cause hell of experience.
So how RED does it?