Mysterium Sensor - Dynamic Range, Latitude, Noise - what do we know?

Okay, saw some info in the pics Chris and others posted plus the info in the articles and on the site.

Our 4K Mysterium has:

(1) 66 db of dynamic range (anyone have some reasonable figures for other cams)

(2) Capture appears to be 10-bit but is the processing at 10-bit or some other?

(3) I saw a "11 to 15" stops slide - does the variance some from the shooting mode or vagaries in the Mysterium specs?

(4) Lowlight and noise is said to be "low" - any more specifics yet?

(5) Bayer CMOS w/ RAW capture for 4K (does anyone have a nice clear explanation of how this works for non-engineers?)

The bottom line for me is, what will be the ISO/ASA rating, the exposure latitude and what kind of noise/grain pattern can we expect?

Also, when you shoot RAW vs. Codec, what processing differences (gamma curves etc.) will occur?

I get the sense the images from RED will compare to high-end DSLRs. Any thoughts on potential issues?

Not sure if this was discussed much, but will the RED have the capability to send electronic masks down the EVF, or perhaps bring some glowing frame markers up into the LCD?

When shooting film cameras, one of the best features in my opinion was having the ground glass marked for all sorts of aspect ratios.

Actually, now that I am thinking about it, how cool would it be if you could bring in your own custom ground glass markings, with more precise data, such as an exact golden mean?

Or how about use some advanced form of infrared auto focus to sense a moving target, and then "track" the object with a pair of moving cross-hairs a-la terminator vision within your desired aspect ratio so that the subject always remains perfectly framed.

Even just a selection of grids that could be brought on and off could be helpful...

Or how about frame grabbers; so you could onion skin your plates!


Dean

I was sifting through my NAB photo collection and came across a couple of
photos that either haven't really been seen (as far as I know) outside of NAB
or show some things that aren't visible on www.red.com

1. the 3 handle cage showing the different positions, including the bottom position which I always assumed but didn't really see or read about

2. most views have been of the front, back and left side of the camera, here a shot of the right / bottom side

3. a nice view of the RED "tent" @ NAB

Enjoy!

Maybe if RED has a couple of lenses, later in the stadium they could maybe even sell a box with their own primes, just three or something so you should have enough to begin shooting - with a couple of options.
Just a box with a tele, a standard lens, and a wide angle?

Doesn't need to, just an idea, could be fun, you buy such a case, take it with you. With the RED logo on it... droool...

Since a 4k still-frame photo doesn't require much data throughput, is there any chance that the RED ONE will be able to take still-photos at full 4k without the attached REDRAID system (keep it slow and easy, like three frames per second)?

Many owners are going to be hiking around with the cam, desiring as little pack-weight as possible. Ditching REDRAID for such a hike (and potentially ditching the need for a still-frame SLR) is going to save a lot of extra weight and backpack space.

And if anyone is wondering why you would want 4k stills when you could instead get 2k stills extracted from video, just think about the professional quality artwork you'll need for your finished video... advertisements and packaging will need as good a quality as can be gotten. Same thing for photos that go into "how the film was made" articles. And if the photos can be gotten as single-snap pictures, it will save drive space, as well as the time that would otherwise have been spent finding and extracting the frames from the video.

Also, if you have time enough to hang out at one spot and take a bunch of still shots, then you can put it all together to make a very cool time-lapse video... in which case wouldn't you like all that time spent to result in 4k resolution rather than 2k?

I know you'll get the LCD screen (or which tecnology is it) together with the camera, but you can you mount two of them on the camera too?
And if so, will RED sell these LCD screens seperately too?

Thanks,

Just found this nice 32 GB flash drive from TDK.

Tech specs:
* sixteen 16 gigabit chips
* 2.5-inch ATA interface
* UltraDMA mode2 with 33.3 MB/s (REDCODE RAW 27 MB/s)
* less power consumption than traditional drives

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/18/tdks-32gb-solid-state-disk-joins-the-party/

Go imagine what will be available in a year from now.

The future is RED.

Was just wondering if there were any plans to make a DV Rack or similar software that would work with Red. I realize there are many obstacles. Laptops that could keep up, laptop monitors at 1080p at best, DV Rack requiring firewire etc.
Still, even if you didn't record through DV Rack or similar software, it would be cool to use some of its other functions to make sure you're not messing up on set, have proper framing relative to a previous shot, and so on. So, is this at all a possibility and perhaps in the works?
Thanks ahead of time for any thoughts or info!

I don't know much about CCD design, but I was wondering what angle of incident light is accepted (perhaps there's a falloff with angle)?

Not that I'd imagine it varies for the RED sensor versus other CCDs, but I'd like to use a wide variety of nonstandard lenses, sometimes off axis (like using larger format lenses with front lens movements). Would you see any vignetting from the CCD rejecting extreme off-axis light?

Obviously, at raking angles the chip will reflect most of the light. I was just hoping the RED team would be willing to give us some idea of how far off-axis we can go with lens movements.


Cheers,


Ryan

A friend has a set of Super Speeds for sale, they are MKIII's in excellent condition for $29k. PM if you are interested and I'll forward him your info.

MODS- I realize this belongs in the Classified section, I posted here because there is a huge shortage of these lenses and Red owners have been searching high and low for these. These are not my lenses, and I am not making any money, just thought I would pass on some useful info. Please delete if you feel this is inappropriate.

Post Magazine Article (http://www.postmagazine.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=63930E9D02644EC9A127AF67602DA756&nm=E-Newsletters&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=9715F5A6EC254CB284836CDB57F3CC24&tier=4&id=03E49843F9D74F13A2F5857907135396%20)

Wired Magazine has what they call the "Wired 40", which is their annual list of the world's most innovative technology companies. Being a longtime subscriber, I always look forward to the list, which was just released in the April issue.

This year, they have also added an online version where people can vote on the companies listed as well as add their own suggestions to the list.

I thought that Red would be a prime candidate, so I have taken the liberty of adding Red Digital Cinema to the list. If you like, you can vote for them (click on the green up arrow next to their name (which will be listed under "New" in the sort selection.)

I would imagine we will soon see an article about Red in an upcoming Wired... and perhaps Red will make the "Wired 40" in the not too distant future. Here is the description from the Wired website:

"THE WIRED 40 -- They're masters of innovation and technology, global thinkers that dominate their industries and point the way to the future. Our 10th annual list of the 40 most wired companies in the world.

WEIGH IN ON THE WIRED 40: Each year the editors name a short list of companies for the Wired 40. Now, you can have a vote as well."

Vote here: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_vote.html

http://www.red.com/news/view/79

My opinion is the delay will ensure a great camera.

heath

http://www.red.com/pages/redone_on_track

Very cool indeed!

heath

I really want to thank all of the RED team members who were on hand for the training day last Friday. Each and everyone there ( including Jim, who found me a set of 24 inch rods when I started to assemble my rig ) was very helpful. They took the time to answer all of the questions I could come up with at the time, as well as going over the setup menus as many times as I needed to feel comfortable with the camera. The day went well past 5:30 and I really know what a drag it can be waiting for that last customer to pack up and head out the door on a Friday, so thanks for the beer ;) I hope to be putting items and camera discriptions on my companies website soon. I can't wait for everything to ship back to me so I can open up the boxes and do it all over again for my guys.