Which NLE's have Red been talking to? Any info. would be nice. Will the Red codec play nice with the Cineform codec (Premiere Pro user here)?

Have the NLE's been brought the development process at all? That's one major thing that needs to be thought about. All that resolution is nice, but if it's a major pain to edit it, then it's not so useful after all, kinda like building a great car before the invent of paved roads.

The fxguide article mentions Apple as a nonformally annouced partner and specifically Final Cut Pro as the application they are currently doing demo's with. It does not say if those demo's are being done with actual Mysterium footage yet.

That's promising, at least. I'll give it a read. Unfortunatley, I'm a PC guy, so FC doesn't offer me much hope.

Jim Jannard said they will support every NLE the user wants them to support, so if the PC NLE's show interest, RED will be very happy to give them all the information they need :-)

Don't forget Vegas ;)

We're showing today's 2k workflow solutions using FCP and Scratch, using scanned 2k film footage, just to help people get 2k, when they're used to thinking SD or HD.

Graeme

We're showing today's 2k workflow solutions using FCP and Scratch, using scanned 2k film footage, just to help people get 2k, when they're used to thinking SD or HD.

Graeme

How much does Scratch cost? I thought I read something like $30K. Can that be right? Would a 2K workflow require that kind of expense on the software end?

I would expect a 2K workflow to cost at least that... There may be some $10K solutions arise but remember the market is small and it is for finishing Hollywood movies...



ash =o)

working at 2k is not as easy as working at HD.

its great that RED can do 4K but I see myself mainly working at HD res because the workflow is easy to managed.

I guess the future will be that censors will be ultra high res 4K + to aquire the best possible image and you would work in a low resolution for speed.

I can't see many people working at 4K as even the DCI spec is 2K

I think many people will work at lower resolutions as well. If I could afford this I would do it just to shoot at 720p at 120fps. The slow motion from such footage would be incredible. Plus the storage overhead would be much lower.

For anyone who saw my initial rant I just had to get a few things out of my system.

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I believe there will be several 2k solutions by the time we are shipping the camera. Don't look at today... look at the horizon.

Jim

That's promising, at least. I'll give it a read. Unfortunatley, I'm a PC guy, so FC doesn't offer me much hope.

Now even PC guys can have hope now that Apple has Boot Camp available for their MacIntels. :)

Now even PC guys can have hope now that Apple has Boot Camp available for their MacIntels. :)

Nope, because some of us like to build our own systems and don't like the prebuilt hardware from ANY company, Apple included. I like building my systems to get exactly (and only) the hardware I want.

So, PC NLE is support is a must for us. I personally like Vegas but Premiere Pro or Avid ain't bad either.

I think many people will work at lower resolutions as well. If I could afford this I would do it just to shoot at 720p at 120fps. The slow motion from such footage would be incredible. Plus the storage overhead would be much lower.

For anyone who saw my initial rant I just had to get a few things out of my system.

I agree. If I would have the camera (I can't afford it, but anyhow, let's dream) then I would work at lower resolutions, which are still good enough to blow up!

And if my computer within years can accept 2K... THEN I'll use 2k.

Can you really build your own avid systems? They always seem so picky about hardware that you usally don't have much of a choice on a pc.

Can you really build your own avid systems? They always seem so picky about hardware that you usally don't have much of a choice on a pc.

When building a system for a picky NLE, look carefully at their recommended systems and figure out what mobo and chipsets are in them as well as relevant cards and drivers. Then build using those parts.

I'm wondering if the RED team is going to do something like the Cineform Raw capture. I sure hope so. Or if not, let their camera support Cineform's Raw capture codec. That would bring the 2K realm a lot faster and easier for us, imo. Maybe even get us thinking about working with 4K.