AVID media composer

Kevin Ta · May 4th, 2008, 03:53 PM

Does anyone know if AVID will fix the problem capturing 24f from the Canon XH A1?
I know media composer now works for HD, but i looked around and heard many reports about the issue of capturing 24f, does this apply to 30f to?

Also i hear that if you shoot 60i, there are ways to change that to a look similar to 30f or 24f. Is that true?

i'm fairly new to the world of editing, i mainly have experience with dv shooting, and photography. Any pointers would be great. Thank You.

Blake Calhoun · May 4th, 2008, 04:09 PM

You have to use a workaround to work with 24F. I've been doing it successfully for about a year. Capture your 24F HDV to your computer using HDVSplit. It makes m2T files for each clip. Then use MPEG Streamclip to transcode the media to DNxHD 115 or 175. Then import these clips into your Avid. Works in Xpress Pro or Media Composer. Yeah, it's a few extra steps, but it does the trick. Good luck.

Kevin Ta · May 5th, 2008, 10:53 AM

Thanks Blake,

Do you know know what the setting should be when using the Canon A1 as a deck to record hdv on xpress pro? I have been only able to get it to work when i am shooting in DV.

Right now, when i shoot HDV, i can play and control the a1 from my computer and see the image, but when i click capture, it says that "video signal present but not captured". Can't figure it out.

Kevin Ta · May 8th, 2008, 01:08 AM

I also noticed the the HDVSplit is only available for PC, is there something that can be run on a Mac?

I will definitley look into it when i finish building my PC for editing, but in the meantime i only have a Macbook for editing.

Ryan M. Christensen · July 21st, 2008, 03:38 PM

Two questions:

1. Could this workflow work for 30f as well?
2. Is MPEG Streamclip required. Could you use Media Composer to transcode the files to DNxHD?

I have searched all over the web-and this advice is the best I have come accross for how to work with the Canon XH-A1 and Avid. I sure wish Avid would support the f format. Perhaps if we make enough emails/calls?

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Calhoun

You have to use a workaround to work with 24F. I've been doing it successfully for about a year. Capture your 24F HDV to your computer using HDVSplit. It makes m2T files for each clip. Then use MPEG Streamclip to transcode the media to DNxHD 115 or 175. Then import these clips into your Avid. Works in Xpress Pro or Media Composer. Yeah, it's a few extra steps, but it does the trick. Good luck.

David Parks · July 21st, 2008, 04:09 PM

30f already works. Standard digitize into 1080i HDV project, MPEG stream clip for 1080p.

Cheers

Geoff Dills · July 22nd, 2008, 06:08 AM

Apparently you can use the 24f format now with MC.

http://community.avid.com/forums/t/57675.aspx

David Parks · July 22nd, 2008, 08:31 AM

Geoff,

I'm not so sure yet.When you read the entire thread on the Avid Community forum you'll see what I mean. Someone said you use the advanced timeline function and do this and do that. Then Lew S., who is a Liquid moderator states in the next post that the info is pasted straight from the Pinnacle forum. He knows becuase he wrote it and the procedure referring to Liquid not MC.

So, I'll do some digging, but officially Avid has not cliamed that MC 3.0 supports 24f. I know for certain it works with 30f and they state as such in the knowledge base.

But, I'll double check.

EDIT: I can conform that 24f isn't supported for digitize and play back. It will capture into a 1080/60i project, but becuse there is no pull down it plays back fast and choppy. I even tried 1080/24p and it wouldn't even digitize. So you musst use MPEG Streamclip still.

Peter Moretti · July 22nd, 2008, 03:56 PM

Dave, I heard they brought a G1 with them on the space shuttle. Do you know if that's true?

David Parks · July 22nd, 2008, 04:18 PM

Yes it's true...and it was reported by Chris Hurd himself.

XH G1 now in Low Earth Orbit

Cheers

May 4th, 2008, 03:53 PM	#1
Kevin Ta Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 33	AVID media composer Does anyone know if AVID will fix the problem capturing 24f from the Canon XH A1? I know media composer now works for HD, but i looked around and heard many reports about the issue of capturing 24f, does this apply to 30f to? Also i hear that if you shoot 60i, there are ways to change that to a look similar to 30f or 24f. Is that true? i'm fairly new to the world of editing, i mainly have experience with dv shooting, and photography. Any pointers would be great. Thank You. Last edited by Kevin Ta; May 4th, 2008 at 05:43 PM.

May 4th, 2008, 04:09 PM	#2
Blake Calhoun Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 145	You have to use a workaround to work with 24F. I've been doing it successfully for about a year. Capture your 24F HDV to your computer using HDVSplit. It makes m2T files for each clip. Then use MPEG Streamclip to transcode the media to DNxHD 115 or 175. Then import these clips into your Avid. Works in Xpress Pro or Media Composer. Yeah, it's a few extra steps, but it does the trick. Good luck. __________________ Check out my series "PINK" (shot on the Canon XH-A1 and HV20): www.pinktheseries.com

July 21st, 2008, 04:09 PM	#6
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 540	30f already works. Standard digitize into 1080i HDV project, MPEG stream clip for 1080p. Cheers __________________ David Parks www.openskyfilms.com

July 22nd, 2008, 06:08 AM	#7
Geoff Dills Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 72	Works now Apparently you can use the 24f format now with MC. http://community.avid.com/forums/t/57675.aspx

July 22nd, 2008, 08:31 AM	#8
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 540	Geoff, I'm not so sure yet.When you read the entire thread on the Avid Community forum you'll see what I mean. Someone said you use the advanced timeline function and do this and do that. Then Lew S., who is a Liquid moderator states in the next post that the info is pasted straight from the Pinnacle forum. He knows becuase he wrote it and the procedure referring to Liquid not MC. So, I'll do some digging, but officially Avid has not cliamed that MC 3.0 supports 24f. I know for certain it works with 30f and they state as such in the knowledge base. But, I'll double check. EDIT: I can conform that 24f isn't supported for digitize and play back. It will capture into a 1080/60i project, but becuse there is no pull down it plays back fast and choppy. I even tried 1080/24p and it wouldn't even digitize. So you musst use MPEG Streamclip still. __________________ David Parks www.openskyfilms.com Last edited by David Parks; July 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 AM. Reason: Information Update

May 5th, 2008, 10:53 AM	#3
Kevin Ta Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 33	Thanks Blake, Do you know know what the setting should be when using the Canon A1 as a deck to record hdv on xpress pro? I have been only able to get it to work when i am shooting in DV. Right now, when i shoot HDV, i can play and control the a1 from my computer and see the image, but when i click capture, it says that "video signal present but not captured". Can't figure it out.

May 8th, 2008, 01:08 AM	#4
Kevin Ta Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 33	I also noticed the the HDVSplit is only available for PC, is there something that can be run on a Mac? I will definitley look into it when i finish building my PC for editing, but in the meantime i only have a Macbook for editing.

July 22nd, 2008, 03:56 PM	#9
Peter Moretti Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 643	Dave, I heard they brought a G1 with them on the space shuttle. Do you know if that's true?

July 22nd, 2008, 04:18 PM	#10
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 540	Yes it's true...and it was reported by Chris Hurd himself. XH G1 now in Low Earth Orbit Cheers __________________ David Parks www.openskyfilms.com

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