HFS+Journaling?

Michael Wisniewski · November 11th, 2008, 12:09 PM

I just got a new Macbook Pro, and I'm wondering if I should use journaling with the eSATA drive. I understand journaling is "more secure" but wonder if there aren't any "gotchas" when editing video.

* The original HDV & DVCProHD files will be backed up elsewhere.

Nate Schmidt · November 11th, 2008, 12:43 PM

From what I've read format your media drives with Journaling off.
Explaining OS X 10.3 File Journaling

Noah Kadner · November 11th, 2008, 01:41 PM

Doesn't make a huge difference these days to be honest. That article was written by the great Larry Jordan but it's 5 years old now and doesn't seem to hold true as much anymore. He might of course update and say otherwise if he happens to read this post, I typically format journaled, the performance is about the same.

-Noah

Boyd Ostroff · November 12th, 2008, 12:41 PM

Hey Michael,

It's been discussed a lot in the past here:

FireWire Drives Explanation
Trouble capturing with external drive
journalling vs non journalling hard drive formatting
Dropped Frames
Dropped Frame while Printing to Video

You know, I tend to agree with Noah these days. I just did a project which used a bunch of external drives and formatted them all with journaling on. No problems so far (using a 3.0gzh iMac and 2.4ghz MBP).

Andy Mees · November 12th, 2008, 10:29 PM

journaling on over here too

Steve Oakley · November 12th, 2008, 10:34 PM

journaling can be turned on and off with out formatting BTW.

in disk utility, select the volume and enable / disable.

my vote is off if you are pushing the drives, as FCP has enough problems

Andy Mees · November 12th, 2008, 11:56 PM

yep, if you are regularly pushing / maxing your drive's write capabilities then you might eke just that tiny bit extra performance that one day you need

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Noah Kadner Better than Halle Berry Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 378	Doesn't make a huge difference these days to be honest. That article was written by the great Larry Jordan but it's 5 years old now and doesn't seem to hold true as much anymore. He might of course update and say otherwise if he happens to read this post, I typically format journaled, the performance is about the same. -Noah __________________ Visit http://callboxlive.com/instructional-dvds/cameras.html for Final Cut Studio training DVDs from Noah! My RED Blog- http://twenty398.com

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Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,079	Hey Michael, It's been discussed a lot in the past here: FireWire Drives Explanation Trouble capturing with external drive journalling vs non journalling hard drive formatting Dropped Frames Dropped Frame while Printing to Video You know, I tend to agree with Noah these days. I just did a project which used a bunch of external drives and formatted them all with journaling on. No problems so far (using a 3.0gzh iMac and 2.4ghz MBP). __________________ http://tech.operaphilly.com \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

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November 12th, 2008, 10:29 PM	#5
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 427	journaling on over here too

November 12th, 2008, 10:34 PM	#6
Steve Oakley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 840	journaling can be turned on and off with out formatting BTW. in disk utility, select the volume and enable / disable. my vote is off if you are pushing the drives, as FCP has enough problems

November 12th, 2008, 11:56 PM	#7
Andy Mees Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 427	yep, if you are regularly pushing / maxing your drive's write capabilities then you might eke just that tiny bit extra performance that one day you need