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Alan James · January 10th, 2007, 08:57 PM

I want to add scratches and lots of other imperfections to a short movie I shot. I want it to look exactly like Grindhouse http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...tw=480&qth=300 I was wondering what is the easiest way to do this in After Effects without buying a plugin? I want scratches, dust, film coming out of the gate with perferations on the side, the works. Basically age it about 40 years. How should I do this?

Peter Jefferson · January 11th, 2007, 03:33 AM

i know u said u dont wana buy a plugin, but magic bullet misfire will do wht u want..

I J Walton · January 11th, 2007, 06:48 PM

LOL i saw this trailer and thought the exact same thing! I want that look. I have magic bullet (full version) but I can't get this look, especially with the white hairs.

Does anyone have a tutorial of how to get this exact look?

I have Cinelook filmres, but it runs very slowly, so i'd prefer not to use it.

Peter Jefferson · January 12th, 2007, 05:52 AM

its caled misfire, a part of the mb package, but not mb itself...just as slow though...

another option might be edius Pro film look filter, as it allows u to mess with scratch colours as well

Steven Gotz · January 12th, 2007, 06:22 AM

I happen to have an overlay you can use. Take a look here:

http://www.stevengotz.com/filmgrain.htm

Alan James · January 14th, 2007, 01:14 AM

Awsome film effect but i still want the film to jump a bit and to have perfs on the edges of it, how would you all recomind going around getting that effect?

Conor Ryan · January 14th, 2007, 05:42 AM

Scan some perforations and make a looping animation of them that is the same height as your composition. Then (in AE) stick that to the edge of of your video layer (parent the perfs to the video) then apply a wiggle to the horizontal position, with a little vertical, and maybe some rotation (you'll have to compensate for the blank spots top and bottom) video layer, with motion blur.

You might want to make your video layer slightly bigger than your composition too.

That's in-projector film going haywire. In camera film losing alignment needs to start when you shoot. See Fight club when they rattled the camera then stabilized it, then added the sprockets.

There is an offset effect in AE too. Maybe add some distortion effects to the image to get the look of the film misshaping....

You'll also have to make sure you get the colour to flicker, inconsistent brightness and, usually, a red flare coming in from one side or other.

Mess around to fine tune.

Steven Gotz · January 14th, 2007, 10:56 AM

Nice job Conor. I saw the email in my inbox and started formulating an answer as I clicked on the link. Your answer was almost exactly what I was getting ready to write.

Nate Benson · March 6th, 2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Gotz

I happen to have an overlay you can use. Take a look here:

http://www.stevengotz.com/filmgrain.htm

thank you for posting this. I've been looking for a film grain effect that was free mainly because I'm just a poor college student. But in all honesty this is an amazing overlay you've got here. Well done, thanks a lot.

Kyle Kauss · May 31st, 2007, 04:03 PM

How can you make the video look like the film is going up and down like it does at the start of the trailer there.

Alan James · June 1st, 2007, 09:31 AM

It depends on what program you have. After effects with magic bullet plug ins does it pretty well but if you dont have the plug ins a wiggle expression will work just fine. Pull your footage into after effects and make a comp for it. Then click on the footage and bring up the position control (just type "p" and it will come up).

Next hold down the alt key and click on the position stopwatch (i think thats what its called, the button that tells it u wanna animate it). A coding area will pop up under it. Type "wiggle (#,#)" but in the # put actual numbers. This will tell after effects to randomly move the layer. The first number tells how often and the second number tells how much (I think). You can look it up on google and probably get a better description of it.

Its funny, I started this thread so I have figured it all out, it seems funny that now I'm giving advice on my own question.

Kyle Kauss · June 2nd, 2007, 01:19 AM

Well you know what your talking about, thanks for the info it works perfect Alan I really appriciate it!

January 10th, 2007, 08:57 PM	#1
Alan James Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 261	Grindhouse Effect I want to add scratches and lots of other imperfections to a short movie I shot. I want it to look exactly like Grindhouse http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...tw=480&qth=300 I was wondering what is the easiest way to do this in After Effects without buying a plugin? I want scratches, dust, film coming out of the gate with perferations on the side, the works. Basically age it about 40 years. How should I do this?

January 12th, 2007, 06:22 AM	#5
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Try this I happen to have an overlay you can use. Take a look here: http://www.stevengotz.com/filmgrain.htm __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

January 14th, 2007, 10:56 AM	#8
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Nice job Conor. I saw the email in my inbox and started formulating an answer as I clicked on the link. Your answer was almost exactly what I was getting ready to write. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

January 11th, 2007, 03:33 AM	#2
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	i know u said u dont wana buy a plugin, but magic bullet misfire will do wht u want..

January 11th, 2007, 06:48 PM	#3
I J Walton Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 40	LOL i saw this trailer and thought the exact same thing! I want that look. I have magic bullet (full version) but I can't get this look, especially with the white hairs. Does anyone have a tutorial of how to get this exact look? I have Cinelook filmres, but it runs very slowly, so i'd prefer not to use it.

January 12th, 2007, 05:52 AM	#4
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	its caled misfire, a part of the mb package, but not mb itself...just as slow though... another option might be edius Pro film look filter, as it allows u to mess with scratch colours as well

January 14th, 2007, 01:14 AM	#6
Alan James Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 261	Awsome film effect but i still want the film to jump a bit and to have perfs on the edges of it, how would you all recomind going around getting that effect?

January 14th, 2007, 05:42 AM	#7
Conor Ryan Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 67	Scan some perforations and make a looping animation of them that is the same height as your composition. Then (in AE) stick that to the edge of of your video layer (parent the perfs to the video) then apply a wiggle to the horizontal position, with a little vertical, and maybe some rotation (you'll have to compensate for the blank spots top and bottom) video layer, with motion blur. You might want to make your video layer slightly bigger than your composition too. That's in-projector film going haywire. In camera film losing alignment needs to start when you shoot. See Fight club when they rattled the camera then stabilized it, then added the sprockets. There is an offset effect in AE too. Maybe add some distortion effects to the image to get the look of the film misshaping.... You'll also have to make sure you get the colour to flicker, inconsistent brightness and, usually, a red flare coming in from one side or other. Mess around to fine tune.

May 31st, 2007, 04:03 PM	#10
Kyle Kauss Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 114	How can you make the video look like the film is going up and down like it does at the start of the trailer there.

June 1st, 2007, 09:31 AM	#11
Alan James Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 261	It depends on what program you have. After effects with magic bullet plug ins does it pretty well but if you dont have the plug ins a wiggle expression will work just fine. Pull your footage into after effects and make a comp for it. Then click on the footage and bring up the position control (just type "p" and it will come up). Next hold down the alt key and click on the position stopwatch (i think thats what its called, the button that tells it u wanna animate it). A coding area will pop up under it. Type "wiggle (#,#)" but in the # put actual numbers. This will tell after effects to randomly move the layer. The first number tells how often and the second number tells how much (I think). You can look it up on google and probably get a better description of it. Its funny, I started this thread so I have figured it all out, it seems funny that now I'm giving advice on my own question.

June 2nd, 2007, 01:19 AM	#12
Kyle Kauss Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 114	Well you know what your talking about, thanks for the info it works perfect Alan I really appriciate it!