New JVC GY-DV5000 at DVinfo.net

Lou Bruno · August 28th, 2002, 05:39 PM

JVC's next generation 3-CCD Professional DV Camcorder carries the legacy of our enormously popular GY-DV500U. We redesigned the camera from the ground up giving it features and performance that puts it in the league with the most expensive production cameras on the market.
12-bit A/D converter and DSP
New double tension tape transport accepts full & mini size cassettes (up to 276 minute record time)
Professional DV record/play, DVCAM Playback
400% dynamic range
Ultra sensitive f:13 @ 2000lux
0.4 lux (100% video)
800 TV lines (camera)
63dB S/N camera
Highlight chroma
Soft shoulder pad
Light link (controls light ON/OFF)
2.5-inch LCD with data or video display
Time/date record
Hi Res frame mode
2 XLR with phantom power
Left eye and Z axis adj. standard.
IEEE1394 In/Out
Auxiliary Digital Port (for Network Pack)
Locked audio

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/features.jsp?model_id=MDL101367

Lou Bruno

Frank Granovski · August 29th, 2002, 01:38 AM

1/2" CCDs and it takes both miniDV tapes and full size miniDV tapes. Interesting. Watch out, Sony.

Jason Wood · August 29th, 2002, 01:43 AM

Yowza!

What will it retail for?

I want one!

Barry Goyette · August 29th, 2002, 06:39 AM

I thought it was interesting that JVC has included a "hi res frame mode"...looks like they're after canon too. The camera is $4995 w/o lens or viewfinder...check out the link as they've got all the specs, package prices etc. there for your perusal.

Barry

Nathan Gifford · August 29th, 2002, 07:19 AM

Street prices may vary, but with lens or viewfinder you can easily add another $2.5K-$3K to the $4995 price tag.

Don't get me wrong, the JVC is a very nice cam but it is nowhere near as cheap as the XL-1S.

Adrian Douglas · August 29th, 2002, 08:16 AM

Don't forget the Anton-Bauer batteries needed to power the beast. It'll end up being a $10k camera

Chris Hurd · August 30th, 2002, 12:30 PM

Yup, with an EVF and a Canon 16x lens, it's priced at about $7000. Add another $1000 for a decent charger and a couple of batts, another $1000 for a set of remote zoom & focus controls. Appears to be a great shoulder-mount, I saw it this week at WEVA at a special demo not on the show floor. I've been wondering when JVC would break away from Mini-DV and get into full-size DV, and now this is it. They'll have two new full-size DV decks as well.

Justin Chin · August 30th, 2002, 12:48 PM

To be fair, this model JVC doesn't really compete with the XL1s. Yes, it carries a hefty price tag, but all "industrial quality" cameras do.

The image resolution on the previous DV500 is better than that of the XL1s with the manual lens. And that's what you pay for.

Nathan Gifford · August 30th, 2002, 03:12 PM

I think that's what were are trying to say, that the JVC is a heckuva machine, but you are not going to add one to your stable for $5K.

It is interesting to note, that the cam is going to use a full-size cassette at...did I read this wrong...miniDV speed? Makes for a really long recording session?!?!?

Justin Chin · August 30th, 2002, 03:44 PM

I'm sure they'll have a stock set up that they'll sell. The old DV500 went for under 5k easily. Of course the lens wasn't great (better than the stock Canon) and the veiwfinder was not terrific (but still better than the stock Canon).

I'm not knocking Canon at all. I love mine. But that's mainly because I use the mini35 with it. Otherwise I'd be shooting with my DV500 more often. Now I have it shelved and ready to sell.

Chris Hurd · August 30th, 2002, 03:57 PM

Hi Nathan,

Just to avoid any confusion, Mini-DV is not a tape speed nor is it a tape format. Mini-DV refers only to the size of the cassette shell.

The format is DV, and there are two cassette shell sizes... mini and full. Mini DV is much more common. The Pansonic AJ-DVC200 full-size shoulder-mount camcorder uses the full-size DV cassettes (as a matter of fact, it won't accept the Mini-DV tapes), and of course you can use full-size DV tapes in any Sony camera that takes full-size DVCAM tapes (they're both the exact same cassette shell).

For awhile, the Pana 200 has been the only camera that takes full size DV cassettes without being a DVCAM camera (instead it's a DV format camera). Now, the JVC GY-DV5000 will be another full-size DV camera, with the ability to accept Mini-DV cassettes as well, something the Pana 200 can't. Hope this helps,

Nathan Gifford · August 30th, 2002, 05:39 PM

Thanks Chris. I knew the miniDV and DV were the same, but I thought DVCAM was higher speed. I guess I am confused about the two formats.

Chris Hurd · August 30th, 2002, 05:54 PM

DVCAM is indeed higher speed... you always have to recalculate how long a DV cassette will last in a DVCAM camera or deck. This bit me in the butt one time. A 180 minute full-size DV cassette will record for only 120 minutes in a DVCAM deck due to the higher speed of DVCAM. Hope this helps,

Hagop Matossian · August 31st, 2002, 06:58 AM

My brother found a couple of sony DVCAM tapes in an old studio. Can I use these in my XM-2? I didn't even put them in for fear of damaging the heads, although I know this is unlikely.

Am i right in thinking these cassetes contain the same tape as miniDV tapes?
They are marked 40 minutes, so I guess they would get 60 in my XM-2?

cheers

Chris Hurd · August 31st, 2002, 07:14 AM

40min DVCAM will get you 60min in an XM2, but unless you're already shooting Sony tapes, you'll want to run a head cleaning cassette before and after. DVCAM stock is marginally "better" than DV stock.

Hey! I thought this was a JVC GY-DV5000 thread. It appears we've strayed off-topic. Hope this helps,

August 28th, 2002, 05:39 PM	#1
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	New Jvc Dy Dv5000 JVC's next generation 3-CCD Professional DV Camcorder carries the legacy of our enormously popular GY-DV500U. We redesigned the camera from the ground up giving it features and performance that puts it in the league with the most expensive production cameras on the market. 12-bit A/D converter and DSP New double tension tape transport accepts full & mini size cassettes (up to 276 minute record time) Professional DV record/play, DVCAM Playback 400% dynamic range Ultra sensitive f:13 @ 2000lux 0.4 lux (100% video) 800 TV lines (camera) 63dB S/N camera Highlight chroma Soft shoulder pad Light link (controls light ON/OFF) 2.5-inch LCD with data or video display Time/date record Hi Res frame mode 2 XLR with phantom power Left eye and Z axis adj. standard. IEEE1394 In/Out Auxiliary Digital Port (for Network Pack) Locked audio http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/features.jsp?model_id=MDL101367 Lou Bruno

August 29th, 2002, 07:19 AM	#5
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	That means another $2,500-$3,000... Street prices may vary, but with lens or viewfinder you can easily add another $2.5K-$3K to the $4995 price tag. Don't get me wrong, the JVC is a very nice cam but it is nowhere near as cheap as the XL-1S. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

August 29th, 2002, 08:16 AM	#6
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Don't forget the Anton-Bauer batteries needed to power the beast. It'll end up being a $10k camera __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

August 30th, 2002, 12:30 PM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Yup, with an EVF and a Canon 16x lens, it's priced at about $7000. Add another $1000 for a decent charger and a couple of batts, another $1000 for a set of remote zoom & focus controls. Appears to be a great shoulder-mount, I saw it this week at WEVA at a special demo not on the show floor. I've been wondering when JVC would break away from Mini-DV and get into full-size DV, and now this is it. They'll have two new full-size DV decks as well. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 30th, 2002, 12:48 PM	#8
Justin Chin Major Player Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 227	To be fair, this model JVC doesn't really compete with the XL1s. Yes, it carries a hefty price tag, but all "industrial quality" cameras do. The image resolution on the previous DV500 is better than that of the XL1s with the manual lens. And that's what you pay for. __________________ justin www.monsterrocket.com Filmmaker \| Cinematographer

August 29th, 2002, 01:38 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	1/2" CCDs and it takes both miniDV tapes and full size miniDV tapes. Interesting. Watch out, Sony.

August 29th, 2002, 01:43 AM	#3
Jason Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 87	Yowza! What will it retail for? I want one!

August 29th, 2002, 06:39 AM	#4
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	I thought it was interesting that JVC has included a "hi res frame mode"...looks like they're after canon too. The camera is $4995 w/o lens or viewfinder...check out the link as they've got all the specs, package prices etc. there for your perusal. Barry

August 30th, 2002, 03:12 PM	#9
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	I think that's what were are trying to say, that the JVC is a heckuva machine, but you are not going to add one to your stable for $5K. It is interesting to note, that the cam is going to use a full-size cassette at...did I read this wrong...miniDV speed? Makes for a really long recording session?!?!? __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

August 30th, 2002, 03:44 PM	#10
Justin Chin Major Player Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 227	I'm sure they'll have a stock set up that they'll sell. The old DV500 went for under 5k easily. Of course the lens wasn't great (better than the stock Canon) and the veiwfinder was not terrific (but still better than the stock Canon). I'm not knocking Canon at all. I love mine. But that's mainly because I use the mini35 with it. Otherwise I'd be shooting with my DV500 more often. Now I have it shelved and ready to sell. __________________ justin www.monsterrocket.com Filmmaker \| Cinematographer

August 30th, 2002, 03:57 PM	#11
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Hi Nathan, Just to avoid any confusion, Mini-DV is not a tape speed nor is it a tape format. Mini-DV refers only to the size of the cassette shell. The format is DV, and there are two cassette shell sizes... mini and full. Mini DV is much more common. The Pansonic AJ-DVC200 full-size shoulder-mount camcorder uses the full-size DV cassettes (as a matter of fact, it won't accept the Mini-DV tapes), and of course you can use full-size DV tapes in any Sony camera that takes full-size DVCAM tapes (they're both the exact same cassette shell). For awhile, the Pana 200 has been the only camera that takes full size DV cassettes without being a DVCAM camera (instead it's a DV format camera). Now, the JVC GY-DV5000 will be another full-size DV camera, with the ability to accept Mini-DV cassettes as well, something the Pana 200 can't. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 30th, 2002, 05:39 PM	#12
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	Thanks Chris. I knew the miniDV and DV were the same, but I thought DVCAM was higher speed. I guess I am confused about the two formats. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

August 30th, 2002, 05:54 PM	#13
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	DVCAM is indeed higher speed... you always have to recalculate how long a DV cassette will last in a DVCAM camera or deck. This bit me in the butt one time. A 180 minute full-size DV cassette will record for only 120 minutes in a DVCAM deck due to the higher speed of DVCAM. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 31st, 2002, 06:58 AM	#14
Hagop Matossian Woodyfang Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: London/Nicosia Posts: 125	My brother found a couple of sony DVCAM tapes in an old studio. Can I use these in my XM-2? I didn't even put them in for fear of damaging the heads, although I know this is unlikely. Am i right in thinking these cassetes contain the same tape as miniDV tapes? They are marked 40 minutes, so I guess they would get 60 in my XM-2? cheers __________________ 10 films online http://www.undeadarmy.org STOP PRESS!! http://www.honeyweasel.com STOP PRESS!! Lighting Cameraman / Director / Producer / Music Producer / DJ / Web Designer / Visualist / Media Student / IT Tutor / Digital Artist W00dy See, W00dy d00...

August 31st, 2002, 07:14 AM	#15
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	40min DVCAM will get you 60min in an XM2, but unless you're already shooting Sony tapes, you'll want to run a head cleaning cassette before and after. DVCAM stock is marginally "better" than DV stock. Hey! I thought this was a JVC GY-DV5000 thread. It appears we've strayed off-topic. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!