DVD Ripping at DVinfo.net

Scott Shama · February 21st, 2005, 10:53 AM

Hi all,

I hope this isn't viewed as too taboo...I swear my intentions are innocent.

I want to rip the audio and video from a commercial DVD. A friend of mine took apart the movie Memento and reassembled it in the chronologically correct time. I would like to try this also as an excercise. So, I need to rip the movie off my DVD so I can edit it in FCP.

I'm on a Mac Dual 2G running os X.3.7 .

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Scott

Wendy Rubin · February 21st, 2005, 03:29 PM

I need to get a logo off of a DVD and was told that I need dvd ripping softare for a mac. The logo is 6 seconds and in black and white. Any suggestions?
Thanks

Wendy

Imran Zaidi · February 21st, 2005, 04:06 PM

It really doesn't matter for what purpose - copying/ripping commercial works, or strategies/techniques on circumventing copyright protection cannot be discussed on this forum. We all strive to respect each others' intellectual and creative property, and unless you have specific, expressed approval from the copyright owner, it's illegal for you to pursue such a venture for any purpose.

That's our story and we're stickin' to it!

Wendy Rubin · February 21st, 2005, 04:11 PM

I am not looking to rip anything that is copyrighted. I did a commercial for converse and they sent me a dvd of it with their logo animated to match my commercial on it and I want the full version for my reel. Any suggestions for the appropriate software.
Thanks
Wendy

Boyd Ostroff · February 21st, 2005, 04:26 PM

Roxio's "popcorn" is claims to do this: http://www.roxio.com/en/products/pop...WZWRLAQAMHB3KQ

Note their disclaimers however

Quote:

* Does not copy encrypted or copy protected DVDs. USE OF THIS SOFTWARE TO MAKE UNAUTHORIZED COPIES OF MOVIES AND OTHER CONTENT MAY REQUIRE THE PERMISSION OF THE COPYRIGHT OWNER.

† Use of ripping software may contravene the copyright laws in certain countries. Please consult your legal advisor for information on the laws in your country.

I would also like to echo Imran's comments; we can't discuss illegal copying on DVinfo forums, regardless of how "innocent" your intentions might be.

Chris Hurd · February 21st, 2005, 06:41 PM

<< I did a commercial for converse and they sent me a dvd of it with their logo animated to match my commercial on it and I want the full version for my reel. >>

Your best bet is to contact Converse and ask them to provide this for you.

Rhett Allen · February 21st, 2005, 10:45 PM

However wrong it is, the fact remains that programs like this are so painfully easy to find for free, it actually seems ridiculous to hear someone ask where to find them. You haven't even tried have you?

I wouldn't condone the behavior of ripping DVD and CD's except... My Windows XP Professional disk took a crap. It had the most miniscule, tiny, little scuff on it and refused to work anymore. Well, Microsucks sent me a replacement disk, except the one they sent to replace didn't have SP1 on it. (my original did) That means I spent hours and hours and hours swapping back and forth between drives and installs and updates so I could properly format the 160Gig drives which weren't recognized before SP1.
ALL BECAUSE I DIDN'T MAKE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL!
Now I firmly believe in personal backups of anything that is sold on such a delicate format as DVD and CD. It is our right as consumers to protect our investment in this digital media. It is the duty of the media conglomerates to educate the public as to how to be a responsible citizen. They've spent plenty of money corrupting social values, they can spend the money fixing it now.

Having said that though, it would not be productive or responsible to give that information (copy programs) on this forum. If you want it, you will have to find it. Should take all of about 15 second at most, there are about a trillion other web sites out there to look at you know.

Scott Shama · February 22nd, 2005, 12:37 AM

Look...All you guys are normally quite helpful so let me say that I appreciate every bit of help I've gotten here to date.

Rhett, your post has a pretty snotty, "know it all" tone to it. I am not looking for you to condone or approve of what I do with my time or my possessions. I didn't ask for an illegal method. Yes I have already searched for and tried the easily found applications that are available. None have worked so far with this dvd. I have never even attempted to extract the video off a DVD like this before. It just sounded like a fun exercise.

If I want to re-edit footage from a movie, that I bought and paid for, into a different order for my own personal use that is up to me. I'm willing to bet it's not even illegal especially considering what schools get away with under the guise of "educational purposes".

I understand perfectly that this BB cannot and should not condone illegally copying DVD's.

Thanks anyway.
Scott

Craig Seeman · February 22nd, 2005, 08:58 AM

Digital Millinium Copyright Act makes the breaking of copy protection illegal. Many think it's a bad law since it can make it illegal for you to back up protected DVD/CD you bought but, none the less, it is a law.

Basically even if the client hands you a protected DVD of a feature they own the rights to, you still can't circumvent the protection legally. It's not about "ownereship," it's the act of circumventing the copy protection.

It's almost as if you lock yourself out of your house so you need to break the lock to get in but you're still subject to "breaking and entering." Dumb eh, it's the law. Thank the folks elected to congress for that.

Dylan Couper · February 22nd, 2005, 10:28 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Scott Shama :

Rhett, your post has a pretty snotty, "know it all" tone to it.
Scott -->>>

Rhett snotty????? NEVER!!! :)

Wendy
I once needed a DVD ripper for legal purposes, and chose something that didn't do the job very well, and cost me $50, so I won't give them any free advertising by naming them. I suggest as Chris did that you ask for your footage in a data format, it is so much easier.
However, if you do need a ripper, check out www.download.com There are lots of DVD rippers there, most with free trials so you can test them out. Make sure you read users reviews, as some of the free rippers come packed with spyware. Most of the good ones are in the $30 range. The free ones... you get what you pay for....

Hope this helps!

Scott Shama · February 22nd, 2005, 11:56 AM

Craig,

Great analogy. Stupid law. I don't even want to get into who's running the country "right" now. =(

Dylan,

Thanks for your help but that site caters to windows users mainly....not very good for mac. I'm really not that interested in paying for one as this was just something to do as an exercise. I would rather not do it than put $50 into it.

Cheers,
Scott

Boyd Ostroff · February 22nd, 2005, 03:02 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Scott Shama : I would rather not do it than put $50 into it. -->>>

Honestly, that's probably your best option then.

I'm still not clear on what you want to do: do you want to capture a commercial movie, then edit it into something else (that's what your first post said). Since you don't want to spend any money you probably don't care a lot about the quality (you obviously can't sell it or put it online or anything). In that case, why not play the DVD on a decent LCD or plasma screen and use your DV camera to film it? That will convert it to DV quickly and easily. You could capture directly into your computer from the camera to avoid the step of recording on tape.

Rhett Allen · February 22nd, 2005, 04:16 PM

Hey, I wasn't trying to be snotty but it IS not only a taboo, but is against the rules on these forums to discuss illegal activities such as bypassing copy protection on commercial products. It doesn't matter if it's just for personal use or not, bypassing the copy-protection is illegal. I don't agree with it! But it's the way things are. I have a program (DVD X Copy Xpress) I purchased at Fry's, but now 321 Studios, who made it, are out of business for this very reason. (and as such there are no updates, support or further sales and it has web activation so I'll never be able to install it again if this computer dies)

There is a website that "tracks versions" of software (get the hint?) and a quick search on that web site will give you exactly what you are looking for! Either for the Mac or PC. It is so widely discussed on the internet, I don't know if I have even gone a day without seeing one program or another being mentioned somewhere on the web. You can buy lots of the "non-commercial" ripping versions from any computer store like CompUSA or Frys. I have 4 different programs that will do this as well as commercial DVD's, 2 were free (and excellent) 2 cost about $100 (not quite as good, but easier to use). (I believe there are a few dozen for either platform but the PC one's are a little faster)
I was publicly denouncing the practice of ripping DVD's but if you read further you would notice that while I didn't specifically approve of it, I DO understand it has a perfectly good place in our society. I travel quite a bit, and I like to bring movies with me, BUT I do not believe that when I pay good money for a DVD that I can only expect it to last a short time and then I have to buy it again! That's not fair. (and most frustrating is when it happens to an almost $400 piece of software!)
If you just want to rework a movie for exercise, there are probably options far easier than ripping the DVD and converting the VOB's and re-syncing the audio and such. Boyd's was a good option.

Scott Shama · February 22nd, 2005, 05:34 PM

Rhett, thanks for the explanation. Sorry I was curt. Everything I've tried to extract the footage with leaves green spots all over the screen. I don't really want to watch it this way when I am done editing.

Boyd, the movie Memento is basically about a week in a guys life. The days are edited in reverse though. It starts with the last day and counts down backwards showing the viewer what happened the previous day (Fri, Thurs, Wed, Tues). I want to put it in the "correct" order (Mon, Tues, Wed) and watch it. Kinda odd to explain, I hope this made sense. If not, you should rent it. It's a very good movie.

Cheers,
Scott

Alessandro Machi · February 26th, 2005, 12:22 AM

Was one of the questions being asked "Is it illegal to re-edit a copyrighted movie if it is for your own personal use?"

Does anyone recall the movie rental chain, I think it was in Utah, that was actually editing out what they considered to be "R" rated scenes in movies so that it could be rented as "family entertainment" to their local customers?

I heard it ended up in the courts but I don't recall the final outcome.

If this company is allowed to "augment" a copyrighted movie that they purchased and then re-rent it, that would appear to be a lot more potent than just re-editing an existing movie for one's personal use.

February 21st, 2005, 10:53 AM	#1
Scott Shama Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 399	DVD Ripping Hi all, I hope this isn't viewed as too taboo...I swear my intentions are innocent. I want to rip the audio and video from a commercial DVD. A friend of mine took apart the movie Memento and reassembled it in the chronologically correct time. I would like to try this also as an excercise. So, I need to rip the movie off my DVD so I can edit it in FCP. I'm on a Mac Dual 2G running os X.3.7 . Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Scott

February 21st, 2005, 03:29 PM	#2
Wendy Rubin New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United States Posts: 16	need the same info I need to get a logo off of a DVD and was told that I need dvd ripping softare for a mac. The logo is 6 seconds and in black and white. Any suggestions? Thanks Wendy __________________ www.joesgrille.com Music Video Production, CD/DVD Manufacturing and Syndicated College Radio Programming Remember, Let's all be independent together tm

February 21st, 2005, 04:11 PM	#4
Wendy Rubin New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United States Posts: 16	I am not looking to rip anything that is copyrighted. I did a commercial for converse and they sent me a dvd of it with their logo animated to match my commercial on it and I want the full version for my reel. Any suggestions for the appropriate software. Thanks Wendy __________________ www.joesgrille.com Music Video Production, CD/DVD Manufacturing and Syndicated College Radio Programming Remember, Let's all be independent together tm

February 21st, 2005, 06:41 PM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	<< I did a commercial for converse and they sent me a dvd of it with their logo animated to match my commercial on it and I want the full version for my reel. >> Your best bet is to contact Converse and ask them to provide this for you. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 22nd, 2005, 10:28 AM	#10
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Scott Shama : Rhett, your post has a pretty snotty, "know it all" tone to it. Scott -->>> Rhett snotty????? NEVER!!! :) Wendy I once needed a DVD ripper for legal purposes, and chose something that didn't do the job very well, and cost me $50, so I won't give them any free advertising by naming them. I suggest as Chris did that you ask for your footage in a data format, it is so much easier. However, if you do need a ripper, check out www.download.com There are lots of DVD rippers there, most with free trials so you can test them out. Make sure you read users reviews, as some of the free rippers come packed with spyware. Most of the good ones are in the $30 range. The free ones... you get what you pay for.... Hope this helps! __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

February 21st, 2005, 04:06 PM	#3
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	It really doesn't matter for what purpose - copying/ripping commercial works, or strategies/techniques on circumventing copyright protection cannot be discussed on this forum. We all strive to respect each others' intellectual and creative property, and unless you have specific, expressed approval from the copyright owner, it's illegal for you to pursue such a venture for any purpose. That's our story and we're stickin' to it!

February 21st, 2005, 10:45 PM	#7
Rhett Allen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 607	However wrong it is, the fact remains that programs like this are so painfully easy to find for free, it actually seems ridiculous to hear someone ask where to find them. You haven't even tried have you? I wouldn't condone the behavior of ripping DVD and CD's except... My Windows XP Professional disk took a crap. It had the most miniscule, tiny, little scuff on it and refused to work anymore. Well, Microsucks sent me a replacement disk, except the one they sent to replace didn't have SP1 on it. (my original did) That means I spent hours and hours and hours swapping back and forth between drives and installs and updates so I could properly format the 160Gig drives which weren't recognized before SP1. ALL BECAUSE I DIDN'T MAKE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL! Now I firmly believe in personal backups of anything that is sold on such a delicate format as DVD and CD. It is our right as consumers to protect our investment in this digital media. It is the duty of the media conglomerates to educate the public as to how to be a responsible citizen. They've spent plenty of money corrupting social values, they can spend the money fixing it now. Having said that though, it would not be productive or responsible to give that information (copy programs) on this forum. If you want it, you will have to find it. Should take all of about 15 second at most, there are about a trillion other web sites out there to look at you know.

February 22nd, 2005, 12:37 AM	#8
Scott Shama Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 399	Look...All you guys are normally quite helpful so let me say that I appreciate every bit of help I've gotten here to date. Rhett, your post has a pretty snotty, "know it all" tone to it. I am not looking for you to condone or approve of what I do with my time or my possessions. I didn't ask for an illegal method. Yes I have already searched for and tried the easily found applications that are available. None have worked so far with this dvd. I have never even attempted to extract the video off a DVD like this before. It just sounded like a fun exercise. If I want to re-edit footage from a movie, that I bought and paid for, into a different order for my own personal use that is up to me. I'm willing to bet it's not even illegal especially considering what schools get away with under the guise of "educational purposes". I understand perfectly that this BB cannot and should not condone illegally copying DVD's. Thanks anyway. Scott

February 22nd, 2005, 08:58 AM	#9
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Digital Millinium Copyright Act makes the breaking of copy protection illegal. Many think it's a bad law since it can make it illegal for you to back up protected DVD/CD you bought but, none the less, it is a law. Basically even if the client hands you a protected DVD of a feature they own the rights to, you still can't circumvent the protection legally. It's not about "ownereship," it's the act of circumventing the copy protection. It's almost as if you lock yourself out of your house so you need to break the lock to get in but you're still subject to "breaking and entering." Dumb eh, it's the law. Thank the folks elected to congress for that.

February 22nd, 2005, 11:56 AM	#11
Scott Shama Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 399	Craig, Great analogy. Stupid law. I don't even want to get into who's running the country "right" now. =( Dylan, Thanks for your help but that site caters to windows users mainly....not very good for mac. I'm really not that interested in paying for one as this was just something to do as an exercise. I would rather not do it than put $50 into it. Cheers, Scott

February 22nd, 2005, 03:02 PM	#12
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	<<<-- Originally posted by Scott Shama : I would rather not do it than put $50 into it. -->>> Honestly, that's probably your best option then. I'm still not clear on what you want to do: do you want to capture a commercial movie, then edit it into something else (that's what your first post said). Since you don't want to spend any money you probably don't care a lot about the quality (you obviously can't sell it or put it online or anything). In that case, why not play the DVD on a decent LCD or plasma screen and use your DV camera to film it? That will convert it to DV quickly and easily. You could capture directly into your computer from the camera to avoid the step of recording on tape.

February 22nd, 2005, 04:16 PM	#13
Rhett Allen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 607	Hey, I wasn't trying to be snotty but it IS not only a taboo, but is against the rules on these forums to discuss illegal activities such as bypassing copy protection on commercial products. It doesn't matter if it's just for personal use or not, bypassing the copy-protection is illegal. I don't agree with it! But it's the way things are. I have a program (DVD X Copy Xpress) I purchased at Fry's, but now 321 Studios, who made it, are out of business for this very reason. (and as such there are no updates, support or further sales and it has web activation so I'll never be able to install it again if this computer dies) There is a website that "tracks versions" of software (get the hint?) and a quick search on that web site will give you exactly what you are looking for! Either for the Mac or PC. It is so widely discussed on the internet, I don't know if I have even gone a day without seeing one program or another being mentioned somewhere on the web. You can buy lots of the "non-commercial" ripping versions from any computer store like CompUSA or Frys. I have 4 different programs that will do this as well as commercial DVD's, 2 were free (and excellent) 2 cost about $100 (not quite as good, but easier to use). (I believe there are a few dozen for either platform but the PC one's are a little faster) I was publicly denouncing the practice of ripping DVD's but if you read further you would notice that while I didn't specifically approve of it, I DO understand it has a perfectly good place in our society. I travel quite a bit, and I like to bring movies with me, BUT I do not believe that when I pay good money for a DVD that I can only expect it to last a short time and then I have to buy it again! That's not fair. (and most frustrating is when it happens to an almost $400 piece of software!) If you just want to rework a movie for exercise, there are probably options far easier than ripping the DVD and converting the VOB's and re-syncing the audio and such. Boyd's was a good option.

February 22nd, 2005, 05:34 PM	#14
Scott Shama Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 399	Rhett, thanks for the explanation. Sorry I was curt. Everything I've tried to extract the footage with leaves green spots all over the screen. I don't really want to watch it this way when I am done editing. Boyd, the movie Memento is basically about a week in a guys life. The days are edited in reverse though. It starts with the last day and counts down backwards showing the viewer what happened the previous day (Fri, Thurs, Wed, Tues). I want to put it in the "correct" order (Mon, Tues, Wed) and watch it. Kinda odd to explain, I hope this made sense. If not, you should rent it. It's a very good movie. Cheers, Scott

February 26th, 2005, 12:22 AM	#15
Alessandro Machi Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca USA Posts: 553	Was one of the questions being asked "Is it illegal to re-edit a copyrighted movie if it is for your own personal use?" Does anyone recall the movie rental chain, I think it was in Utah, that was actually editing out what they considered to be "R" rated scenes in movies so that it could be rented as "family entertainment" to their local customers? I heard it ended up in the courts but I don't recall the final outcome. If this company is allowed to "augment" a copyrighted movie that they purchased and then re-rent it, that would appear to be a lot more potent than just re-editing an existing movie for one's personal use. __________________ https://alexlogic.blogspot.com/ Los Angeles Emmy Winner (yes, used a video edit controller and loved doing so.)