Edirol F-1 Video Field Recorder

Dave Stern · April 15th, 2008, 01:32 AM

hmmm:

http://www.edirol.com/index.php?opti...341&Itemid=390

Michael Liebergot · April 23rd, 2008, 07:37 AM

Yeah I just saw this posted from NAB the other day. Looks real intriguing to me.

It can record DV/HDV to removable 120GB hard drives as well as, can record uncompressed audio too boot.

So if I wanted, I could record HDV video along with 2 tracks of audio, and tehn get a feed from a board or use 2 external mics for an additional 2 tracks of uncompressed audio. Pretty darn sweet and genius if you ask me.

The only thing that would be better about this unit is if it used removable SD media to get rid of the moving parts of a hard drive. And it would most likely make the unit a bit smaller as well.

Wonder how much it's going to run?

Chris Hurd · April 23rd, 2008, 08:42 AM

I must have been sleepwalking through NAB. Thanks for finding this.

From their NAB2008 Press Release:

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EDIROL Adds Video to Portable Field Recorder Line-up

April 14, 2008 – NAB Show, Las Vegas, Roland Systems Group, leaders in audio/video mixing and capture technology, today unveiled the new EDIROL F-1 Video Field Recorder . The F-1 is the newest member of the popular and growing lineup of EDIROL field recorders combining video capture with multi-channel audio.

The EDIROL F-1 is the ideal addition for any videographer or producer wanting to accelerate their workflow by capturing HDV or DV directly to a hard drive in the field. With two additional audio inputs, no file size limitation, removable hard drive and multiple power options, the F-1 can be used anywhere and in a variety of applications.

In addition to capturing video, the F-1 has two balanced audio inputs for capturing an additional two audio sources supplementing the two channels already part of the video stream. The extra two audio channels are locked to the video and accompany the digital stream as separate uncompressed linear broadcast wav files. This feature not only doubles the typical audio inputs but also provides 16-bit/48Hz audio quality which is beneficial in improving HDV audio quality.

The EDIROL F-1 has no 2GB or 4GB file size limitation found in other solutions and uses a removable HDD for storage allowing the user to swap drives and continue shooting. The removable HDD can also be directly connected to a computer of immediate editing of the video and audio footage.

The unit includes a built-in RGB output that enables connection of a VGA monitor for quick thumbnail previewing without the need to connect a computer. The USB port enables connection of a mouse or touchscreen functionality when using an external monitor. Also available via free download is the F-1 utility software enabling more advanced previewing and file management when connected to a computer. In addition, the built-in network port enables remote control ability of one or multiple units using a simple ethernet switch and computer.

The F-1 Video Field Recorder joins the EDIROL field recording family which includes the R-09HR 2-channel, R-44 Solid-State 4-channel, and R-4Pro 4-channel with timecode portable audio field recorders.

Lorinda Norton · April 23rd, 2008, 11:31 AM

Thanks for the information. This thing looks right up my alley! I talked with a very nice gentleman from Edirol on the phone about it a few minutes ago. He said at NAB they were "talking about" a basic package at $2995 that would include 1 HD and 2 batteries. Naturally, the price is subject to change, so I really appreciated him giving us a ballpark number to chew on.

Projected summer release = time to save up!

Floris van Eck · May 9th, 2008, 02:36 PM

The only downturn for me: no QuickTime support. At least, I can't find a mention of it in the specifications. As I work with FCP, this is an essential feature for me as I do not want to convert .m2t to .mov files.

Besides that, this could be a winner.

Tim Polster · May 9th, 2008, 08:49 PM

It is good to see these devices coming to market.

They offer real world record times at a lower price than P2.

Hopefully the competition will drive proprietary memory down to a reasonable level.

The F1 looks good, but I would like to see higher level codecs & bitrates supported.

Jerry Mennenga · August 2nd, 2008, 02:01 PM

I was wondering the same thing. The high definition is recorded in m2t files, so does this mean using log and transfer in fcp and going through the pro rez 422 easy set-up. This would negate any drag and drop opportunity for fcp users.

Brian Standing · August 25th, 2008, 02:32 PM

You know, rather than require every hardware manufacture to support QuickTime, shouldn't Apple fix Final Cut to support native m2t editing instead?

Martin Catt · August 25th, 2008, 06:50 PM

Oh, man, that looks so sweet! External power jack takes 9-16vDC, so you could run it off a 12v gel cell. Extreme lust on my part. My only questions are, how much for a 2nd removable drive, and how hard would it be to swap in a larger drive in the removable casing? And can I get a frame to let me plug the drive directly into my editing machine?

Martin

April 15th, 2008, 01:32 AM	#1
Dave Stern Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 241	Edirol F-1 Video Field Recorder hmmm: http://www.edirol.com/index.php?opti...341&Itemid=390

April 23rd, 2008, 07:37 AM	#2
Michael Liebergot Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 816	Yeah I just saw this posted from NAB the other day. Looks real intriguing to me. It can record DV/HDV to removable 120GB hard drives as well as, can record uncompressed audio too boot. So if I wanted, I could record HDV video along with 2 tracks of audio, and tehn get a feed from a board or use 2 external mics for an additional 2 tracks of uncompressed audio. Pretty darn sweet and genius if you ask me. The only thing that would be better about this unit is if it used removable SD media to get rid of the moving parts of a hard drive. And it would most likely make the unit a bit smaller as well. Wonder how much it's going to run? __________________ Thanks, Michael

April 23rd, 2008, 08:42 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 21,310 Images: 535	I must have been sleepwalking through NAB. Thanks for finding this. From their NAB2008 Press Release: ----------------------------------------------------------------- EDIROL Adds Video to Portable Field Recorder Line-up April 14, 2008 – NAB Show, Las Vegas, Roland Systems Group, leaders in audio/video mixing and capture technology, today unveiled the new EDIROL F-1 Video Field Recorder . The F-1 is the newest member of the popular and growing lineup of EDIROL field recorders combining video capture with multi-channel audio. The EDIROL F-1 is the ideal addition for any videographer or producer wanting to accelerate their workflow by capturing HDV or DV directly to a hard drive in the field. With two additional audio inputs, no file size limitation, removable hard drive and multiple power options, the F-1 can be used anywhere and in a variety of applications. In addition to capturing video, the F-1 has two balanced audio inputs for capturing an additional two audio sources supplementing the two channels already part of the video stream. The extra two audio channels are locked to the video and accompany the digital stream as separate uncompressed linear broadcast wav files. This feature not only doubles the typical audio inputs but also provides 16-bit/48Hz audio quality which is beneficial in improving HDV audio quality. The EDIROL F-1 has no 2GB or 4GB file size limitation found in other solutions and uses a removable HDD for storage allowing the user to swap drives and continue shooting. The removable HDD can also be directly connected to a computer of immediate editing of the video and audio footage. The unit includes a built-in RGB output that enables connection of a VGA monitor for quick thumbnail previewing without the need to connect a computer. The USB port enables connection of a mouse or touchscreen functionality when using an external monitor. Also available via free download is the F-1 utility software enabling more advanced previewing and file management when connected to a computer. In addition, the built-in network port enables remote control ability of one or multiple units using a simple ethernet switch and computer. The F-1 Video Field Recorder joins the EDIROL field recording family which includes the R-09HR 2-channel, R-44 Solid-State 4-channel, and R-4Pro 4-channel with timecode portable audio field recorders. Attached Thumbnails __________________ CH Search DV Info Net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DV Info Net Sponsors \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 23rd, 2008, 11:31 AM	#4
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 1,677	Thanks for the information. This thing looks right up my alley! I talked with a very nice gentleman from Edirol on the phone about it a few minutes ago. He said at NAB they were "talking about" a basic package at $2995 that would include 1 HD and 2 batteries. Naturally, the price is subject to change, so I really appreciated him giving us a ballpark number to chew on. Projected summer release = time to save up! __________________ Lorinda

May 9th, 2008, 08:49 PM	#6
Tim Polster Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 673	It is good to see these devices coming to market. They offer real world record times at a lower price than P2. Hopefully the competition will drive proprietary memory down to a reasonable level. The F1 looks good, but I would like to see higher level codecs & bitrates supported. __________________ Tim Polster www.metroplexmultimedia.com

May 9th, 2008, 02:36 PM	#5
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 729	The only downturn for me: no QuickTime support. At least, I can't find a mention of it in the specifications. As I work with FCP, this is an essential feature for me as I do not want to convert .m2t to .mov files. Besides that, this could be a winner.

August 2nd, 2008, 02:01 PM	#7
Jerry Mennenga New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sioux City, Iowa Posts: 16	edirol and hd files I was wondering the same thing. The high definition is recorded in m2t files, so does this mean using log and transfer in fcp and going through the pro rez 422 easy set-up. This would negate any drag and drop opportunity for fcp users.

August 25th, 2008, 02:32 PM	#8
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 431	You know, rather than require every hardware manufacture to support QuickTime, shouldn't Apple fix Final Cut to support native m2t editing instead? __________________ http://www.prolefeedstudios.com/blog/ Documentary for the masses!

August 25th, 2008, 06:50 PM	#9
Martin Catt Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Colony TX Posts: 191	Oh, man, that looks so sweet! External power jack takes 9-16vDC, so you could run it off a 12v gel cell. Extreme lust on my part. My only questions are, how much for a 2nd removable drive, and how hard would it be to swap in a larger drive in the removable casing? And can I get a frame to let me plug the drive directly into my editing machine? Martin __________________ Canon XL2, 20X zoom, 14x manual, and 3X wide-angle, Rolls MX422 mixer, MicroTrak 24/96 recorder, AT899 lavs, AT2020's, Azden SGM 1X shotgun, Manfrotto 503 head on 351 tripod

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