DV-L Thu, 8 Feb 2001 Volume 1 : Number 760
In this issue:
Re: Premiere 6 questions
Re: Premiere 6 questions
Premiere 6 DV clip playback problem
Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
RE: Editing Etiquette, was DVStorm
Importing Photoshop Type to FCP with layer effects
Re: Film to Premiere
Grand Ultimate 2000
Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
autorun doesn't run on NT!!
Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editi
ng Peeves))
Re: Other HAMs on the list
Re: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves))
Re: Other HAMs on the list
RE: Other HAMs on the list
RE: Grand Ultimate 2000
Any success with "the consolidator"?
OT: A Mac in a Car!!!
FS: Canon XL1 kit with accessories -- also Elite Video BVP4+ video processor
Re: Importing Photoshop Type to FCP with layer effects
Re: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (was
RE:Editi ng Peeves))
Job costing -- Thanks to all
Re: OT: A Mac in a Car!!!
Re: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Re: OT: A Mac in a Car!!!
Any comments on Profeel Mktg.?
RE: Dogme on 24p?
RE: Dogme on 24p?
Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Re: OT: A Mac in a Car!!!
NYC -Edit-DV, Digital Org.
"crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's"
Re: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Re: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
RE: Premiere 6 DV clip playback problem
Nicolas re: 24p movie in US
Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro
RE: Any comments on Profeel Mktg.?
gitzo sticks and head??
RE: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Re: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
RE: ABIT KT-7 Raid
Re: Gitzo Sticks and Head
RE: [OT] web hosting companies
RE: gitzo sticks and head??
Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
RE: cut to the gimmicks
Re: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (wasRE:Editi ng Peeves))
RE: Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro
RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Re: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's proves you
wrong.
Re: [OT] web hosting companies
RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
RE: Editing
RE: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's proves you wrong.
Re: ABIT KT-7 Raid
RE: Editing
Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Re: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's
proves you wrong.
Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Re: gitzo sticks and head??
Re: gitzo sticks and head??
Re: Other HAMs on the list
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Additional Storage
RE: DV-L V1 #759
Re: gitzo sticks and head??
RE: "the masses"
RE: Mozart complains about Baroque
Re: Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro
Re: Mozart complains about Baroque
Seeking beta testers for real-time NLE
Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
MiniDisc Recorder
Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
RE: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Re: Any comments on Profeel Mktg.?
Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Looking for DV Crew for N.J. Shoot Next Sept.
Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
RE: Rt2000 vs generic dv card question
Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
RE: Additional Storage
RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
RE: Editing
RE: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's proves you wrong.
Re: Mozart complains about Baroque
To serve & to protect DV-L: Volunteers sought
RE: cut to the gimmicks
RE: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's proves
you wrong.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:31:17 -0000
From: Richard Measures
To: "'DV-L@DVCentral.org'"
Subject: Re: Premiere 6 questions
Message-ID: <01C090F2.887617E0@office-pc>
Vidiot wrote:
The 5.1c cross dissolve is broken? I never noticed a problem. What should
I be looking for?
Since the first days of 5.0, I understood the Cross Dissolve reversed
fields when rendered (I'm in PAL here) and since then have used the
Quicktime crossfade for dissolves - maybe I'm wrong and this was fixed in
5.1c, or maybe it was 4.2 - doh!
Anyway, according to Robert McCaul at Adobe (so good to have the whole
Adobe posse on the list these days!) looks like Adobe fixed this for good
in 6.0.
Cheers
Richard Measures
Real World Televisual Ltd
Tel & Fax +44 (0) 1302 852629
www.realworldtv.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:35:21 -0000
From: Richard Measures
To: "'DV-L@DVCentral.org'"
Subject: Re: Premiere 6 questions
Message-ID: <01C090F2.8AF3E920@office-pc>
In Prem 6, can you select multiple clips then copy and paste?
Robert MacCaul of Adobe wrote:
This feature didn't make it this time. You can move multiple clips using
the
range select tool. Also the Automate to Timeline feature is a nice time
saver for adding multiple clips to the timeline with a default transition.
That's a real shame Robert - is it really that hard to do? Good news on the
previews and cross dissolve though - thanks for reading, bothering and
responding :)
Cheers
Richard Measures
Real World Televisual Ltd
Tel & Fax +44 (0) 1302 852629
www.realworldtv.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:52:05 +0100
From: "Erich Quant"
To:
Subject: Premiere 6 DV clip playback problem
Message-ID: <00a201c090f4$19071b50$3303a8c0@optimumdata.at>
I use P6.
Captureing DV workes fine.
Playback from Timeline works also fine includeing output to firewire.
BUT I can't play the same clip in the source monitor window or clip window.
All I get is nothing displayed. That means I can play the clip. When I stop
it and click to ie the timeline window or in the timeline monitor window I
can see the correct curent frame in the source window. But when I press the
play button in the source window it always shows the frame that I got before
when clicking to another window or it's transparent. If I try to playback a
clip with another codec (ie Pinnacle DC30) everything works fine as
expected - this clip can be played fine.
I only get the problem on my home PC (MSI 694DPro-AI dual PIII/733 with
W2K+SP1 and DirectX8a) on my office PC (NT 4.0) the same DV clip can be
played in the source window.
Does anyone have a similar Problem.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:19:55 -0500
From: "Bouslough, Shane"
To: "'dv-l@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Message-ID: <03932F904AD0D411A7B300508B660C292861DA@EXCHNYIS001>
> any more?
I'm not sure where I read these, but they are so true. In any escape
scene where the escapee meets a guard:
* If the escapee is a good guy, the guard's uniform will fit perfectly.
* If the escapee is a bad guy, the guard's uniform will be a size too small.
* If the escapee is a woman, the uniform will be a size too small regardless
if she is a good guy or bad guy.
Additionally, I remember an episode of The Six Million Dollar Man
where he fell into some quicksand in the jungle. He pulled himself
out and was covered with muck. Upon running behind some trees, he
came out the other side completely clean and pressed. Hillarious.
-Shane
--
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VP OSS/Software Services
EurekaGGN
270 Madison Avenue, 6th Floor
New York, NY 10016
Phone: 212-404-5181
Cell: 516-695-2272
Email: shane.bouslough@eurekaggn.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:15:05 +0900
From: "Robert Reilly"
To: "DV-L"
Subject: RE: Editing Etiquette, was DVStorm
Message-ID: <000d01c090ff$b3ff7f20$a721d8cb@rreilly.gol.com>
----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Robert Reilly"
>>To: "DV-L"
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:34 AM
>>Subject: RE: Editing Etiquette, was DVStorm
>>It is no coincidence that Lucas was an avid admirer of the late
>> Japanese director's work.
>> FWIW.
>>
>> Robert
>Some would think you're being too kind, Robert. Some people think that >Lucas
>wasn't just an avid admirer of Kurosawa, but was more of a blatant
>plagiarist who never credited his source of inspiration. Then again, those
>people might be being too unkind to Lucas.
>regards
>Randy Quimpo
Certainly, there are those who believe that, I've no doubt. I can say that his (GL's)
admiration of Kurosawa is no secret to those who work with him and that he has on many
occasion (interviews in print/visual media) given great thanks (as well as support,
financially and otherwise -along with FFC.) to Akira while he was alive. Ironically, it
was he, Kurosawa who publicly acknowledged his "borrowing" from the Hollywood of the
1930's, 40's, and 50's for ideas and inspiration in producing his films dealing with
Japan's Feudal as well as contemporary society. I believe there is a fine line between
borrowing and stealing, blatantly or otherwise. (this isn't the Whitehouse silverware,
after all.) Artists great and small have, by necessity, often sought the fuel needed for
creation from sources other than their own minds.
Curiously, we rarely hear (if at all) anyone accuse Martin Scorcese for
stealing/borrowing/garnering his inspiration for Taxidriver from John Ford's The
Searchers, but, the lauded New York director nonetheless attributes this Western genre
film with providing the inspiration for his more contemporary tale of transformation of
the psyche. In fact, Scorcese is considered by many young filmmakers to be a truly unique
artist in cinema. So, it touches on something else here when we hear Mr. Scorcese himself
admitting to "only copying what has come before". He gives great credit to the pioneering
efforts of those who came before him. And he puts his money where his mouth is, as well,
spearheading efforts in the restoration of old films for the AFI.
For some reason I am reminded of the old adage about art and the need for comparison,
which goes something like, "the first art critic could exist, only after the second work
of art was created."
All the Best.
Robert
___________________________________________
"I try not to imitate anybody. Including myself."
-Otto Preminger
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:33:02 -0400
From: "Banyan"
To:
Subject: Importing Photoshop Type to FCP with layer effects
Message-ID: <02e201c09102$304eb300$8f8803c4@lairdmurphy>
Thank you all for the advice concerning importing Photoshop type images into
FCP complete with layer effects. Let me just clarify: I'm talking about
importing ONE layer here, the type layer with effects applied within the
layer(dropp shadow, bevel etc), which don't get carried through to FCP
without flattening (which creates Alpha channel problems).
There were no suggestions that worked unfortunately, probably due to the
different photoshop versions people were operating from. On my G4 I'm using
version 6 and that seems different from the PC version and earlier versions
as there is no "Render Layer" command under the Type submenu.
Still the responses forced me to try many things and I've found one that
worked.
Merging layers makes it work rather than flattening but my problem was that
there is no MERGE command with one layer. So simply adding another
(transparent) layer with nothing on it and merging solved the problem.
Thanks again for all your efforts
Christopher Laird
Banyan
3 Adam Smith Square
Woodbrook
Port of Spain
Trinidad & Tobago
The Caribbean
Tel: (868) 623 9756
Fax: (868) 627 6808
www.pancaribbean.com/banyan
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:43:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Barry G
To: dv-l@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Film to Premiere
Message-ID: <20010207144337.11685.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com>
<>
This is one of the most intriguing potential features
of the Matrox RT2000, Pinnacle DV500, or any editing
system based on the C-Cube chipset... that chipset
supports frame rates of 29.97, 25, and: 23.976! (as
in, 24 fps film telecine'd to NTSC video!)
If the manufacturers of the editing systems chose to
implement it, we could edit telecine'd film projects
frame-per-frame, just like on an $80,000 Avid Film
Composer (well, except with Premiere, of course!) No
need for matchback software, no 3:2 pulldown, no ghost
frames, no sync problems, pure frame-for-frame
editing.
So far, no manufacturer that I know of has chosen to
implement this capability, but in e-mails they have
confirmed that it is possible.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:51:50 +0100
From: "Global-DVC"
To: "DV-L"
Subject: Grand Ultimate 2000
Message-ID:
Wit this box one can get his PC interface on a TVscreen. (S-Video). Anyone
tested it? Quality? Any other boxes around?
Jan van der Meer
www.global-dvc.org
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:00:53 -0600
From: Doug Smith
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Message-ID: <3A816325.113D2EF0@tamuk.edu>
"Bouslough, Shane" wrote:
> * If the escapee is a woman, the uniform will be a size too small regardless
> if she is a good guy or bad guy.
and I add: the top two button are missing/broken!
and lets not forget audio screwups:
*Every motorcycle sounds like a harley.
Doug
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:15:52 EST
From: CastanedaFilm@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Message-ID: <10.87bf8a2.27b2c0a8@aol.com>
Canopus DVStorm
Pinnacle DV1000
Matrox RT2000
I'm trying to decide which of these would be the best. My primary
consideration is to get the best quality footage. DV1000 advertises
broadcast quality 4:2:2. Any opinions out there, pro con, for any of these?
Anything else I should consider around their $$ range ($1000 - $1800)?
thanks
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:25:58 -0400
From: "Hamel, Stephane (WHSCC)"
To: "DV-L (E-mail)"
Subject: autorun doesn't run on NT!!
Message-ID:
Hi,
Following the information I received from a couple of list memebers, I put
an autorun on a cd with a clip to get it started automatically.
Here is what I wrote:
[autorun]
open=start mplayer2.exe \flashbac.mov
It works fine on win98 but not on NT. I get a message that windows cannot
locate the start.exe file.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Stephan
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:27:57 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editi
ng Peeves))
Message-ID:
N6MOD wrote:
"Any radio, used by good guys or bad guys, is an Amateur rig. Most
often a UHF handheld."
I like it when they're talking on a handheld and the person they're
talking to interrupts them in mid sentence. Talk about losing my
"suspension of disbelief"...
Any other Hams out there? I wonder if we're fewer in number than
the women, and whether there's any overlap?
de K4TTT-TV
-Rik. (CIC)
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:41:03 -0500
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: Other HAMs on the list
Message-ID: <01bf01c0911c$665da9a0$6401a8c0@design1>
KA4YDM also a pilot.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik Albury"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing
Peeves))
> N6MOD wrote:
>
> "Any radio, used by good guys or bad guys, is an Amateur rig. Most
> often a UHF handheld."
>
> Any other Hams out there? I wonder if we're fewer in number than
> the women, and whether there's any overlap?
>
> de K4TTT-TV
>
> -Rik. (CIC)
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:41:20 -0500
From: "Don Mitchell"
To:
Subject: Re: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves))
Message-ID: <001101c0911c$6bfd5450$0164640a@zeus>
Well, I'm ex KH6CMN (license expired in 61 or 62)
A small point, but amateur UHF hand helds aren't the only ones out there. I
have half a dozen commercial band Icom UHF handhelds that probably couldn't
be distinguished from a ham rig without a closeup.
Don Mitchell
runtime@wzrd.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik Albury"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing
Peeves))
> N6MOD wrote:
>
> "Any radio, used by good guys or bad guys, is an Amateur rig. Most
> often a UHF handheld."
>
> I like it when they're talking on a handheld and the person they're
> talking to interrupts them in mid sentence. Talk about losing my
> "suspension of disbelief"...
>
> Any other Hams out there? I wonder if we're fewer in number than
> the women, and whether there's any overlap?
>
> de K4TTT-TV
>
> -Rik. (CIC)
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:45:43 -0500
From: "bullardc"
To:
Subject: Re: Other HAMs on the list
Message-ID: <02ce01c09136$4ec88700$9a14850a@bh>
I'm a pilot, but a ham only while acting
bullardc
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:48:52 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Other HAMs on the list
Message-ID:
KA4YDM also a pilot.
Me too. SE Land with Inst.
Might as well do the pilot thing while we're at it...
-Rik. (CIC)
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:48:05 -0700
From: Ken Benes
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Grand Ultimate 2000
Message-ID:
I had one for several months. Works great easy setup.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Global-DVC [mailto:clubdvc@wxs.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:52 AM
To: DV-L
Subject: Grand Ultimate 2000
Wit this box one can get his PC interface on a TVscreen. (S-Video). Anyone
tested it? Quality? Any other boxes around?
Jan van der Meer
www.global-dvc.org
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:01:19 -0400
From: "Hamel, Stephane (WHSCC)"
To: "DV-L (E-mail)"
Subject: Any success with "the consolidator"?
Message-ID:
I tried the demo version with RT2000.
Put 5 or 6 clips on the timeline, added a different transition between each,
rendered the project, saved it, consolidated it and tried running the
preview on the consolidated project. Result: the last transition got
repeated throughout the consolidated project(they were all different). On
the second try, I got an RT2000 error message; the project could not be
played anymore.
Has anyone managed to get it to work. The concept is great. I would love
to know if I am the only one who has these problems.
Regards,
Stephan
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:03:14 -0800
From: kabbage
To:
Subject: OT: A Mac in a Car!!!
Message-ID:
My dream come true! I had to share this:
http://24.7.157.64/Home.html
- kabbage
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:15:20 -0500
From: "Geoff Amthor"
To:
Subject: FS: Canon XL1 kit with accessories -- also Elite Video BVP4+ video processor
Message-ID:
FOR SALE:
Canon XL1
Mint condition, used only about 20 hours
Sold with original accessories, manual, original box, outer shipping box
Includes the following accessories purchased separately:
--Tamrac professional soft case (room for XL1 and accessories)
--Canon MA-100 shoulder pad w/dual XLR audio adapters
--Canon CH-900 dual battery charger/holder: mount on MA-100 for 3 onboard
batteries
--Two extra Canon BP-927 long-life LiIon batteries (total of three)
--Canon VL-10Li video light -- uses same batteries as XL1
--B+W professional protective filter
Sold via eBay auction ending Sunday Feb 11 7:15 PM Pacific Standard Time
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1212685599
Current auction price is $3,200.00
Also for sale:
Elite Video BVP-4 Plus Broadcast Video Processor
Mint condition, never used
Sold with original box, manual, instructional video
Product (proc amp) is used to enhance and color-correct videos
More info on eBay page
Sold via eBay auction ending Friday Feb 16 7:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1213147444
Current auction price is $300.00
Please direct any questions to Geoff Amthor via email, amthor@mindspring.com
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 06:37:58 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Importing Photoshop Type to FCP with layer effects
Message-ID: <3A8179E6.3384DC00@maui.net>
Banyan wrote:
> Merging layers makes it work rather than flattening but my problem was that
> there is no MERGE command with one layer. So simply adding another
> (transparent) layer with nothing on it and merging solved the problem.
>
>
And thank you Banyon for your tip as well. I've had some intermittent problems with Photoshop 6 that you have now solved for me.
What a group.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:33:54 +0100
From: Robert Rouveroy
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (was
RE:Editi ng Peeves))
Message-ID:
>At 9:27 AM -0600 2/7/01, Rik Albury wrote:
>Any other Hams out there?
=============
Was PK4BR (Sumatra) from 1945-49 1951-56, then PA0 (I forgot my
call), emigrated to Canada but for the first 5 years I was considered
an alien (no permit), but then I lost interest as everybody started
to blow each other out of the water (ether?) with bigger TX's. The
fun in those early days was getting QSL cards from all over with the
lowest wattage you could squeeze out of a 6L6 with a carbon mike as
cathode resistor and a simple dipole, probably about 4 watts.
Is it still fun?
73's, dit-dit-da
--
Robert Rouveroy csc
The Hague, Holland
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:36:26 -0800 (PST)
From: "Joel W. Smit"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Job costing -- Thanks to all
Message-ID: <20010207163626.6710.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com>
With all the good ideas and great advice from the many
people who responded I have a good idea how to
procede. Thank you. I'll let you know if I get the
gig and how it goes. You'll have to remain in
suspense until the end of April, though.
Best,
Joel W. Smit
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:39:19 +0100
From: Robert Rouveroy
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: OT: A Mac in a Car!!!
Message-ID:
At 8:03 AM -0800 2/7/01, kabbage wrote:
>My dream come true! I had to share this:
>
>http://24.7.157.64/Home.html
=============
Fantastic! Now you can edit while driving!
--
Robert Rouveroy csc
The Hague, Holland
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 06:58:46 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Message-ID: <3A817EC6.AC2AF451@maui.net>
CastanedaFilm@aol.com wrote:
> Canopus DVStorm
> Pinnacle DV1000
> Matrox RT2000
>
> I'm trying to decide which of these would be the best. My primary
> consideration is to get the best quality footage. DV1000 advertises
> broadcast quality 4:2:2. Any opinions out there, pro con, for any of these?
> Anything else I should consider around their $$ range ($1000 - $1800)?
>
> thanks
>
DV is a 4:1:1 format. Maybe the DV1000 claim has to do with the internal processing of the video during the mixing processes in your NLE. The Canopus board internal processing is done in
YUV which results in as little degradation of the picture as I have seen due to processing.
The Canopus DVStorm is the only board, I think, that offers realtime color correction which was my main consideration. If I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll be quickly corrected by others more
familiar with the other boards.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 07:05:30 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: OT: A Mac in a Car!!!
Message-ID: <3A81805A.3EBACCAE@maui.net>
kabbage wrote:
> My dream come true! I had to share this:
>
> http://24.7.157.64/Home.html
>
I understand the Mac was still running after the crash test but Quicktime was so quick anymore.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:10:50 -0500
From: "Robert Gundersen"
To: "DV List"
Subject: Any comments on Profeel Mktg.?
Message-ID: <000001c09128$ec045480$fa8e1a26@bgunder.nauticom.net>
I'm considering making a purchase from Profeel, but have never dealt with
them before (B&H being my usual source). I've checked the BBB and mail order
survey both of which give them a positive rating, but I'd like to hear from
any of you DVLers who have had dealings with them. Good guys? or...
That's in advance to all who reply.
Bob Gundersen
Viewfinder Ventures Videography
(412) 422-2861
(707) 982-0888 fax
bgunder@utility.net
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:20:42 +0100
From: "Anders Bergquist"
To:
Subject: RE: Dogme on 24p?
Message-ID:
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OT.
I don't visited Gothenburg Filmfestival last week, but there was schedule a
premiere of a swedish film, entirely done on Sony 24P.
-Anders
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Launer [mailto:dale.launer@gte.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 4:56 PM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Dogme on 24p?
"Compared to 35mm film, DV still looks lousy. Those (video) films you
are quoting are made on HDTV 24p Sony's, costing well over $100.000 a
piece."
Not true. Not one Dogme movie has been made on Sony's 24p. In fact not
one movie has been made on 24p that has even been released (in US at least).
I've seen one, know of others, seen footage from this and that one, but a
feature? No. Unless I missed something in the post, THE CELEBRATION was
done on DV (Pal I believe, mini-DV at that), BREAKING THE WAVES was done on
film, but I'm not sure that's an "official" Dogme entry, DANCE IN THE DARK
was done on Digi-Beta and DV (DV for the fantasy sequences). 24p looks
dramatically different, much more like film in color and detail. I've seen
it vary in looks, largely from lenses, lighting and transfer (to 35mm film
and projected). Sometimes it looks a tiny bit soft (lenses? diffusion?
hard to tell) and at time - a Budweiser commercial to be specific - where on
one shot it looked AMAZINGLY sharp, even sharper that 35mm, more like 70mm.
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OT.
I=20 don't visited Gothenburg Filmfestival last week, but there was schedule = a=20 premiere of a swedish film, entirely done on Sony = 24P.
-Anders
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Launer=20 [mailto:dale.launer@gte.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, = 2001 4:56=20 PM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Dogme on=20 24p?
"Compared to 35mm film, DV still looks lousy. Those (video) films = you=20
are quoting are made on HDTV 24p Sony's, costing well over = $100.000 a=20
piece."
Not true. Not one Dogme movie has been made on Sony's = 24p. In=20 fact not one movie has been made on 24p that has even been = released (in=20 US at least). I've seen one, know of others, seen footage from = this and=20 that one, but a feature? No. Unless = I missed=20 something in the post, THE CELEBRATION was done on DV (Pal I = believe,=20 mini-DV at that), BREAKING THE WAVES was done on film, but I'm not = sure that's=20 an "official" Dogme entry, DANCE IN THE DARK was done on = Digi-Beta and DV=20 (DV for the fantasy sequences). 24p looks dramatically = different, much=20 more like film in color and detail. I've seen it vary in = looks,=20 largely from lenses, lighting and transfer (to 35mm film and=20 projected). Sometimes it looks a tiny bit soft = (lenses? =20 diffusion? hard to tell) and at time - a Budweiser commercial to = be=20 specific - where on one shot it looked AMAZINGLY sharp, even sharper = that=20 35mm, more like 70mm.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:22:18 +0100
From: "Anders Bergquist"
To:
Subject: RE: Dogme on 24p?
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The idiots was film on DV, maybe Sony V?-1000. One some secvences, You see
some photographer using the Sony DV-cam.
-Anders
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Launer [mailto:dale.launer@gte.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 4:56 PM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Dogme on 24p?
"Compared to 35mm film, DV still looks lousy. Those (video) films you
are quoting are made on HDTV 24p Sony's, costing well over $100.000 a
piece."
Not true. Not one Dogme movie has been made on Sony's 24p. In fact not
one movie has been made on 24p that has even been released (in US at least).
I've seen one, know of others, seen footage from this and that one, but a
feature? No. Unless I missed something in the post, THE CELEBRATION was
done on DV (Pal I believe, mini-DV at that), BREAKING THE WAVES was done on
film, but I'm not sure that's an "official" Dogme entry, DANCE IN THE DARK
was done on Digi-Beta and DV (DV for the fantasy sequences). 24p looks
dramatically different, much more like film in color and detail. I've seen
it vary in looks, largely from lenses, lighting and transfer (to 35mm film
and projected). Sometimes it looks a tiny bit soft (lenses? diffusion?
hard to tell) and at time - a Budweiser commercial to be specific - where on
one shot it looked AMAZINGLY sharp, even sharper that 35mm, more like 70mm.
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The=20 idiots was film on DV, maybe Sony V?-1000. One some secvences, You see = some=20 photographer using the Sony DV-cam.
-Anders
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Launer=20 [mailto:dale.launer@gte.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, = 2001 4:56=20 PM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Dogme on=20 24p?
"Compared to 35mm film, DV still looks lousy. Those (video) films = you=20
are quoting are made on HDTV 24p Sony's, costing well over = $100.000 a=20
piece."
Not true. Not one Dogme movie has been made on Sony's = 24p. In=20 fact not one movie has been made on 24p that has even been = released (in=20 US at least). I've seen one, know of others, seen footage from = this and=20 that one, but a feature? No. Unless = I missed=20 something in the post, THE CELEBRATION was done on DV (Pal I = believe,=20 mini-DV at that), BREAKING THE WAVES was done on film, but I'm not = sure that's=20 an "official" Dogme entry, DANCE IN THE DARK was done on = Digi-Beta and DV=20 (DV for the fantasy sequences). 24p looks dramatically = different, much=20 more like film in color and detail. I've seen it vary in = looks,=20 largely from lenses, lighting and transfer (to 35mm film and=20 projected). Sometimes it looks a tiny bit soft = (lenses? =20 diffusion? hard to tell) and at time - a Budweiser commercial to = be=20 specific - where on one shot it looked AMAZINGLY sharp, even sharper = that=20 35mm, more like 70mm.
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:39:12 -0700
From: TM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Message-ID: <3A817A2C.25B0@netidea.com>
And how is it that tires on dirt sending endless clouds of dust in the
air somehow manage to screech as they do on pavement?
Patrick
Doug Smith wrote:
>
> "Bouslough, Shane" wrote:
>
> > * If the escapee is a woman, the uniform will be a size too small regardless
> > if she is a good guy or bad guy.
>
> and I add: the top two button are missing/broken!
>
> and lets not forget audio screwups:
>
> *Every motorcycle sounds like a harley.
>
> Doug
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 11:54:23 -0600
From: Danny Grizzle
To:
Subject: Re: OT: A Mac in a Car!!!
Message-ID:
I don't have a built-in Mac in a Car, but my PowerBook is frequently front
and center.
Mandatory accessories:
DeLorme Street Atlas USA 6.0
GPSy
Garmin GPS III Plus
Garmin External GPS Antenna
Lots of AA batteries for the Garmin
GPS sounds geeky, but starting to be standard equipment on some autos, even
hitting TV commercials. I'll tell you this: my total non-tech 78 year old
uncle spent a day with me, and he thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever
seen!
Guess I could wire iTunes into the in-dash audio, too...
Danny Grizzle
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:44:39 -0500
From: Thomas V McLoughlin
To: DV-l@dvcentral.org
Subject: NYC -Edit-DV, Digital Org.
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010207124439.006a768c@pop.mindspring.com>
Hi,
Is there anyone in the New York City area interested in starting a
group to meet and discuss the Edit DV System. I know I could use some help,
and I'm sure it would be helpful to all. Or, does anyone know of classes
here in the New York City area for the Edit DV System.
Tom
tommack@mindspring.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:58:59 -0800
From: "Dale Launer"
To:
Subject: "crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's"
Message-ID: <00a401c0912f$a6ecc880$5d280304@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's proves you
wrong.
There's an interesting tangent!
And I'm not sure your exact point. But it seems to prove what I was
saying.
Compare that to the Stones and Beatles who listened to music from black
America, decades in the past.
Right, and compare it with the guys who studied at Julliard and studied
classical guitar and musical structure from Gregorian chants - it didn't
really help them. And you point the the Beatles and Stones - they just
listened to the records of their youth, and didn't go back further than
that. Chuck Berry and blues - which was popular back in the '50's.
Leiber and Stoller didn't listen to classical music, they listened to
blues -(1950 when they started) which when they were teenagers was pop hip
black music.
Few, if anyone, has so much talent they can make great art out of
nothing.
I agree, but it's an evolutionary thing.
An artist needs input.
Absolutely.
Without a deep understanding and
appreciation of the past -- even a talented person becomes nothing but a
commercial property.
I would disagree and say the recent past is much more important than the
distant past.
Frankly very little of value has been created in either music or
video/film for several decades. And I doubt it's lack of talent. It's
the total lack of education (read HISTORY) that has created the current
lack of art.
I think the movies have been hurt by the studio systems and the auteur
theory - studios believe that directors can make a mediocre script into a
good movie by tweaking everything (the look, the staging, the camera
movement, casting, scoring, etc) in the absence of a good story.
There have been artistic bursts - the early 70's was one - which largely a
reaction to the 60's.
Music? Clearly you must not like rap, but it's very influential, lots of
people are enjoying it and it's a kind of odd form of music which can be
constructred without knowing how to play an instrument or read music in
anyway. Actually a lot of "house" music is like that.
But the music of the '60's was a reaction to the blandness that rock n' roll
had become by the early '60's. Dylan studied folkies and not classical.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:06:56 EST
From: CastanedaFilm@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Message-ID: <25.11021aea.27b2e8c0@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/7/01 8:53:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, burkhart@maui.net
writes:
<< DV is a 4:1:1 format. Maybe the DV1000 claim has to do with the internal
processing of the video during the mixing processes in your NLE. >>
Yes, I think they were refering to the internal processing. But do you think
that 4:2:2 might pick up slightly better image quality from DV's 4:1:1? Even
though DV is 4:1:1, I was just wondering if the 4:2:2 might do a slightly
better job.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:24:40 -0800 (PST)
From: wes chow
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Message-ID: <20010207182440.6197.qmail@web1105.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Canopus DVStorm
> > Pinnacle DV1000
> > Matrox RT2000
> The Canopus DVStorm is the only board, I think, that offers realtime
> color correction which was my main consideration. If I'm wrong, I'm
> sure I'll be quickly corrected by others more
> familiar with the other boards.
The DC1000 has very limited realtime color correction.
I would go for the DVStorm, especially if you're adding it into a
system that's already built, simply because it seems to have less
incompatibilities with other hardware. Pinnacle also provides the
worst support I have ever experienced for any product. Every single
piece of hardware in my computer was "compliant" with the Pinnacle
board, and yet my stystem crashed every single day. Output quality was
also very poor (random splotches of color, blocky areas).
However, to be fair, I should say that I have a friend who is running
the board perfectly, and had only a few minor problems when he first
set the card up. It varies wildly, but the Pinnacle setup can break
easily. And when it does break, it's really hard to fix without
changing hardware...
I used the RT2000 when it first came out, and the worst problem I can
think of was constant audio drift. I've heard that they've fixed a lot
of the problems since then, and that it's a pretty good board now. I
don't believe you get realtime color correction.
The advantage with the Canopus products is that whatever your computer
can handle, you can do. The Storm will probably not become obsolete.
The Matrix and Pinnacle boards, on the other hand, have very limited
upgrade capabilities. Having a faster computer isn't going to change
what it can do, whereas more processing speed for the Storm increases
its realtime capabilities. That by itself is a huge advantage, as well
as Canopus' reputation and reliability.
I suggest you look at the user forums for the respective boards (on the
company web sites) to see what sort of problems you might encounter.
Keep in mind, however, that the only people who post on these forums
are people who have problems, so it's definitely a skewed sample.
Pinnacle's DV500 forum, interestingly, had some pissed people
threatening with a class action lawsuit.
Wes
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:34:21 -0500
From: "Bob S."
To:
Subject: Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Message-ID:
Missed most of this thread, so I'm sure some of these were covered, but here
goes:
> Things We Have Learned From Movies
> 1. Large, loft-style apartments in New York City are well within the price
> range of most people whether they are employed or not.
> 2. At least one of a pair of identical twins is born evil.
> 3. Should you decide to defuse a bomb, don't worry which wire to cut. You
> will always choose the right one.
> 4. Most laptop computers are powerful enough to override the communications
> system of any invading alien society.
> 5. It does not matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving
> martial arts-your enemies will wait patiently to attack you one by one by
> dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked out their
> predecessors.
> 6. When you turn out the light to go to bed, everything in your bedroom will
>
> still be clearly visible, just slightly bluish.
> 7. If you are blonde and pretty, it is possible to become a world expert on
> nuclear fission at the age of 22.
> 8. Honest and hard working policemen are traditionally gunned down three
> days before their retirement.
> 9. Rather than wasting bullets, megalomaniacs prefer to kill their
> archenemies using complicated machinery involving fuses, pulley systems,
> deadly gasses, lasers, and man-eating sharks, which will allow their
> captives at least 20 minutes to escape.
> 10. During all police investigations, it will be necessary to visit a strip
> club at least once.
> 11. All beds have special L-shaped cover sheets that reach up to the armpit
> level on a woman but only to waist level on the man lying beside her.
> 12. All grocery shopping bags contain at least one stick
> of French bread.
> 13. It's easy for anyone to land a plane providing there is someone in the
> control tower to talk you down.
> 14. Once applied, lipstick will never rub off-even while scuba diving.
> 15. You're very likely to survive any battle in any war unless you make the
> mistake of showing someone a picture of your sweetheart back home.
> 16. Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German or Russian officer, it
> will not be necessary to speak the language. A German or Russian accent will
>
> do. (It used to be an English accent for the German.)
> 17. The Eiffel Tower can be seen from any window in Paris.
> 18.A man will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will
> wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.
> 19. If a large pane of glass is visible, someone will be thrown through it
> before long.
> 20. If staying in a haunted house, women should investigate any strange
> noises in their most revealing underwear.
> 21. Word processors never display a cursor on screen but will always say:
> Enter Password Now.
> 22. Even when driving down a perfectly straight road, it is necessary to
> turn the steering wheel vigorously from left to right every few moments.
> Tires will squeal on any surface, at any speed.
> 23. All bombs are fitted with electronic timing devices with
> large red readouts so you know exactly when they're going to go off.
> 24. A detective can only solve a case once he has been suspended from
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duty.
> 25. If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you meet will
> know all the steps.
> 26. Police departments give their officers personality tests to make sure
> they are deliberately assigned a partner who is their total opposite.
> 27. When they are alone, all foreign military officers prefer to speak to
> each other in English.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:44:33 -0800
From: "Robert MacCaul"
To:
Subject: RE: Premiere 6 DV clip playback problem
Message-ID:
My guess would be an overlay conflict with the DC30 card and the video
display card.
First, make sure you are using the DV-NTSC preset when playing back the DV
clips. I'm assuming you are capturing with the MSDV codec and not a third
party codec.
Disable or remove your DC30 card. Will the clip play ok without the card
installed?
I think the DC30 is fighting for video resources, and controlling video
overlay.
Hope this helps.
Robert
rmaccaul@adobe.com
Web Community Specialist, Dynamic Media
Adobe Systems Incorporated
www.adobe.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Erich Quant [mailto:erich.quant@mycity.at]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:52 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Premiere 6 DV clip playback problem
I use P6.
Captureing DV workes fine.
Playback from Timeline works also fine includeing output to firewire.
BUT I can't play the same clip in the source monitor window or clip window.
All I get is nothing displayed. That means I can play the clip. When I stop
it and click to ie the timeline window or in the timeline monitor window I
can see the correct curent frame in the source window. But when I press the
play button in the source window it always shows the frame that I got before
when clicking to another window or it's transparent. If I try to playback a
clip with another codec (ie Pinnacle DC30) everything works fine as
expected - this clip can be played fine.
I only get the problem on my home PC (MSI 694DPro-AI dual PIII/733 with
W2K+SP1 and DirectX8a) on my office PC (NT 4.0) the same DV clip can be
played in the source window.
Does anyone have a similar Problem.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:45:10 -0800
From: "Dale Launer"
To:
Subject: Nicolas re: 24p movie in US
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Dale,
Check out http://www.hidef.com/nicolas_hidef.html
Saw it in Park City and it was pretty amazing.
Yes, I saw it. But it hasn't been released (I'm not sure if that's =
your point, or just sharing).=20
Thought it looked pretty slick. It was the first time to watch much of =
anything in 24p for me, and the lack of grain started to feel very nice, =
slick in a pleasing way. =20
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Dale,
Check out http://www.hidef.com/nic= olas_hidef.html
Saw=20 it in Park City and it was pretty amazing.
Yes, I saw it. But it hasn't been released (I'm not = sure if=20 that's your point, or just sharing).
Thought it looked pretty slick. It was the first time to = watch much=20 of anything in 24p for me, and the lack of grain started to feel very = nice,=20 slick in a pleasing way.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:36:07 -0500
From: "R Brown"
To:
Subject: Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro
Message-ID: <158801c09145$99509560$3a18a6d1@ultracom.net>
If anyone out there is familiar with the Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro, I would
appreciate some help. I just hooked up a 4 channel beta sp deck to my NLE
system, and I am not sure how to wire the third and fourth channels to/from
my mixer and NLE. Right now I have it set up as follows:
From Deck to Mixer:
Channel 3 Out to Line In 5 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Channel 4 Out to Line In 6 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
From Mixer to Deck
Aux Send 1 to Channel 3 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Aux Send 2 to Channel 4 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" trs)
From NLE to Mixer
Channel 3 Out to Line In 11 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Channel 4 Out to Line In 12 (vis F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
From Mixer to NLE
Alt Out L/3 to Channel 3 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Alt Out R/4 to Channel 4 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Not working!!
I would greatly appreciate it if someone has some advice for me.
Thanks in advance,
Ron Brown
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:37:38 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Any comments on Profeel Mktg.?
Message-ID:
bgunder asked:
>I'm considering making a purchase from Profeel, ... but I'd like to hear from
>any of you DVLers who have had dealings with them. Good guys? or...
I bought an XL-1 from 'em. Guess I got a pretty good deal, and they did what
they promised, eventually, but they strung me along for a month. If I had it
to do again, I'd probably pay a little more (or maybe not) and get it from
B&H or G&G. At least they (B&H) told me at the time that they would not be
able to ship it right away.
-Rik. [CIC]
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:53:48
From: "John Hartney"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: gitzo sticks and head??
Message-ID:
I'm in the market for a new tripod and I'm considering the gitzo 1380/7 head
with the 1338 carbon fiber sticks... Anybody using this combo with a dv
camera?
Are the carbon fiber sticks too light? since there's no spreader, there's
no place to add a sandbag if you needed to....
I'm also thinking about the miller ds10 or sachtler dv4....
Any feedback would be appreciated...
What tripod/head combination to you use with your camera (s)?
and what do you particularly like about it? I'm intentionally not being
specific about the camera because I'd like a wide range of responses. But
the general class would be from dsr 150 to 500...
Or xl1 favorites?
My old fav was a conner 50 on old vinten sticks... but they're too heavy for
this light gear...
Thanks...
John Hartney
Fox Valley DV
847.608.1357
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:11:25 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Message-ID:
Good advice from the others. Of course I recommend DVStorm, but I am a
Canopus Integrator so you'd expect me to say that. However, I've continued
to be open to integrating other products, and have no special incentive for
using Canopus. I continue to find that the DVStorm, as with other Canopus
products, offers superior price/performance with excellent stability and
support. I've put a comparison table up on my web site at
http://www.krysalisproductions.com/systems_comparisons.htm. It doesn't have
the Pinnacle DV1000, but it does have the DV500 and Matrox RT2000 listed.
Some of the features DVStorm gives you in real-time:
- Color correction (RGB or YUV, plus brightness/contrast
(chrominance/luminance))
- Picture-in-Picture
- many 2D transitions, such as wipes, pushes, ripples, and more
- many filter effects, such as old-movie, motion blur, blur, soft focus,
emboss, etc.
- sound filters, such as high-pass and low-pass audio filters
- parabolic and graphic equalizers
The board supports 16:9 and 4-channel audio. It comes with StormEdit, which
is an excellent and easy to use editor for basic editing that performs very
well and will do fine with long-form projects. You can always tag team it
with Premiere for doing the more advanced work. As mentioned, it is scalable
unlike the competition, so the more horsepower in your system, the more
real-time you will get. Plus you have real-time output to both DV and analog
at the same time, no rendering. And if you add the MPEG option card, then
you will also have real-time output to MPEG1 and MPEG2. As far as quality,
Canopus is widely regarded as having the highest quality DV codec. That's
one big reason Avid chose Canopus as its partner for DV-based editing.
I'm happy to answer more questions you have...
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: CastanedaFilm@aol.com [mailto:CastanedaFilm@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:16 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Canopus DVStorm
Pinnacle DV1000
Matrox RT2000
I'm trying to decide which of these would be the best.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:10:30 EST
From: CastanedaFilm@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: ?DV1000 vs MatroxRT2000 vs DVStorm?
Message-ID:
You're right about Pinnacle tech support. I guess the only thing that turns
me on about them are those magic words "broadcast quality." Thanks for the
input. It's helpful.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:14:53 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: ABIT KT-7 Raid
Message-ID:
FYI I've used this board with success coupled with both DVStorm and DVRex-RT
from Canopus.
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dexter C Andrada [mailto:dvworks@edsamail.com.ph]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:55 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: ABIT KT-7 Raid
Hey Dick,
I remember in your previous post (long time ago) you mentioned that the ABIT
KT7-Raid is a good MB. Just wondering what capture card are you using with
this? Canopus, Pinnacle, Matrox,?
Thanks
Dexter
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:25:44 -0500
From: wilson
To: DV List
Subject: Re: Gitzo Sticks and Head
Message-ID: <3A81BD57.5A05D7EC@citicom.com>
<< What tripod/head combination to you use with your
camera (s)?
and what do you particularly like about it? I'm
intentionally not being
specific about the camera because I'd like a wide
range of responses. But
the general class would be from dsr 150 to 500... >>
I just went through this same dilemma and decided on a
Vinten 3, a product newly designed especially for DV
units from the PD-150 to the DSR 300/500. They have
developed an interchangable spring design built into
the head so you get just the proper tension depending
on whather you are using something as light as a 150 or
as heavy as a 500...but one tripod will do for both,
which is nice.
The price tag is not cheap (probably comparable to
Sachtler) but I found a source that substantially
discounts the list prices, if you are interested.
Meanwhile, you can see details at:
http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/ss5/car/videowalkmanrtm/hi-8/gv-a500_specs.shtml
BTW, aluminum legs are standard, carbon legs are about
$250 more and decrease weight by only about a pound.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:30:29 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: [OT] web hosting companies
Message-ID:
I have used Interland before. I've developed several sites deployed to their
NT plan with MS SQL server. I have grievances with them, which mainly have
to due with the fact that their shared NT+SQL hosting plans seemed to have
problems with ASP. The site would break periodically or go through a
terrible slow down, and the default session time was only five minutes. I
traced all these down to their root source, which were several non-default
settings they had tweaked to lessen the load on their servers. These
settings work okay for many sites, but the very dynamic sites I'd developed
needed more.
To their credit, though, they have an excellent support system. Not only is
their web-based interface for managing the site excellent, but their
telephone support people are very knowledgeable on the whole, especially
once they escalate you (which they must always do for me since I wouldn't be
calling unless it was a hairy issue). Also, on these settings that were a
problem, they had no problem immediately changing these settings to
accommodate me.
I would probably use them again, but that is mostly because I've never found
an ISP I was 100% satisfied with, and so I would rather go with the
known-evils of Interland since I now am aware of what tweaks need to be made
to iron out kinks in their service. Once those things are done, it seems to
work well.
My own site is currently hosted at NetHollywood.net. I used to think they
were a great value, but they have undergone numerous hacker attacks because
they host a site for a woman who writes anti-hacker books. My site and email
has gone down frequently of late, so at this point I am looking for a new
ISP (actually I'm probably going to co-locate dedicated servers now). So
don't get them.
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Perro Loco Productions [mailto:el_guapo@perroloco.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 4:29 PM
To: editdv@ls005.datareturn.com; (After Effects Mail List); Work;
Macromedia-UltraDev@yahoogroups.com; FLASHmacromedia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [OT] web hosting companies
Hey all,
We are shopping around for a new web hosting company. As a growing
developer, we can no longer tolerate the local providers, and we need
something better than "Billy Bob's Web Company and Rib Shack".
We've read the ads, visited the sites, checked the "Top 25" lists, and our
in-box is full of sales proposals.
Although we can evaluate the services/prices/merits of each company, we
cannot predict their actions. We are looking to hear about your experiences
with these companies.
We want your horror stories. Who to avoid and why. Nightmares of 3-hour hold
times, lost ODBC/DSN settings, permissions gone berserk, mail servers that
choke every 72 hours.
I am considering Interland.com, Intermedia.net, Webhosting.com,
Affinity.com, and HostPro.com to name a few. Any specific experience with
these big guns would be very helpful.
Reply privately to save bandwidth! Thanks in advance.
--
Jason Ahles
Perro Loco Productions | Einstein Design
http://www.perroloco.com | http://www.einstein-design.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:35:17 -0600
From: Rick Tuel
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: gitzo sticks and head??
Message-ID: <2D97764EC014D311BFD5006094A3E7120B0A9776@honts326.homeoffice.wal-mart.com>
I have a Miller DS-10 system with my XL-1. Works fine.
Rick Tuel
ISD Special Events
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hartney [mailto:jhart3@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:54 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: gitzo sticks and head??
I'm in the market for a new tripod and I'm considering the gitzo 1380/7 head
with the 1338 carbon fiber sticks... Anybody using this combo with a dv
camera?
Are the carbon fiber sticks too light? since there's no spreader, there's
no place to add a sandbag if you needed to....
I'm also thinking about the miller ds10 or sachtler dv4....
Any feedback would be appreciated...
What tripod/head combination to you use with your camera (s)?
and what do you particularly like about it? I'm intentionally not being
specific about the camera because I'd like a wide range of responses. But
the general class would be from dsr 150 to 500...
Or xl1 favorites?
My old fav was a conner 50 on old vinten sticks... but they're too heavy for
this light gear...
Thanks...
John Hartney
Fox Valley DV
847.608.1357
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:10:36 -0800
From: Evan Robinson
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Message-ID:
At 6:19 AM -0500 on 2/7/01, Bouslough, Shane wrote:
> > any more?
>
>I'm not sure where I read these, but they are so true. In any escape
>scene where the escapee meets a guard:
>
>* If the escapee is a good guy, the guard's uniform will fit perfectly.
>
>* If the escapee is a bad guy, the guard's uniform will be a size too small.
Except in Raiders of the Lost Ark, where Harrison Ford gets a german
uniform that's too small until the second guard comes along...
Evan
--
Oh, that's perfect! I'm partnered with a homicidal maniac on a
personal vendetta of family vengeance.
-- Showdown in Little Tokyo, Brandon Lee
It's hard to write foolproof software because there are so many fools,
and they are very inventive.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:44:01 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: cut to the gimmicks
Message-ID:
Maybe if Star Wars had been directed by Howard Stern this would have been
the case...
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Taylor [mailto:exile@21stcentury.net]
I hadn't, actually, thought of Carrie naked as an effect.
I rather like the idea of her dragging the next clip onto the
screen.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:44:10 -0800
From: "John Holmgren"
To:
Subject: Re: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups (wasRE:Editi ng Peeves))
Message-ID: <003d01c0914f$1e9b1de0$5707aace@jh570>
CQ CQ CQ. I remember 6L6s: my brother-in-law still has them in his
audio final in Paris. I once owned '6L6.com' for fun. Yikes!
A nerds idea of fun!? (ashamed to admit I also owned 12AU7.com, also
CK722.com, and I have no idea what I thought I'd do with these things).
K0LOR
From: "Robert Rouveroy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Getting further OT (was: RE: stupid movie screw-ups
(wasRE:Editi ng Peeves))
> >At 9:27 AM -0600 2/7/01, Rik Albury wrote:
> >Any other Hams out there?
> =============
> Was PK4BR (Sumatra) from 1945-49 1951-56, then PA0 (I forgot my
> call), emigrated to Canada but for the first 5 years I was considered
> an alien (no permit), but then I lost interest as everybody started
> to blow each other out of the water (ether?) with bigger TX's. The
> fun in those early days was getting QSL cards from all over with the
> lowest wattage you could squeeze out of a 6L6 with a carbon mike as
> cathode resistor and a simple dipole, probably about 4 watts.
>
> Is it still fun?
> 73's, dit-dit-da
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:50:07 -0500
From: "E Berlin"
To:
Subject: RE: Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro
Message-ID:
I'll base this description on what we have, most of which was set up by the
official Avid installer. If you have a different system some of the minor
details may be different....
From deck to mixer In on channels 1/2 via 1/4"
This signal is sent to the NLE by pressing the Mute/alt 3-4 button above the
fader, and running cable from alt output jacks on the back of the mixer
(1/4' to xlr) to NLE inputs 1 and 2.
From mixer to deck:
Run xlr-to-xlr out the Mackie's Main Outs to deck inputs
From NLE to mixer
Avid analog outs 1 & 2 to mixer inputs 3 & 4. Mackie inputs 11 & 12 are
designed to blend to incoming signals which are controlled by a single
fader. I use 1 & 2 for our beta deck and 3 & 4 for the Avid because they're
the two primary devices. Our DVCAM deck is routed to 5 & 6.
You have the Alt outs routed correctly from the back of the mixer to the
NLE. I'm guessing you don't have the source signal buttons pressed to alt
3/4 when you're trying to feed sound to the NLE. Also remember not to have
any of the solo buttons pressed/lit up when you're doing any signal routing.
I NEVER use the solo buttons with my NLE.
Remember that any input can be routed to the Main Outs by leaving the
Mute/3-4 alt button up, and to the alt outputs by depressing this button.
Also: the C-R/Source buttons above the CTL Room/SUBMIX fader control what's
being sent to the speaker outs for audible monitoring. They can be used in
multiple, but it's usually confusing to do that. "Main" lets you hear
what's going to the Main Outs; ALT 3-4 lets you hear what's going to the Alt
Outs, and TAPE lets you hear what's *coming in* the Tape Input (Tape Out
gets the same output as Main Mix). "Assign to Main Mix" makes any active
signals coming in through Main, ALT, or TAPE route through to the Main Outs.
This will also feed any "Soloed" channels to the Main Mix. This is one
reason you don't want to use the Solo buttons much if at all. (They are
normally used for short term monitoring of a specific signal.)
--------------------------------------------------
If anyone out there is familiar with the Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro, I would
appreciate some help. I just hooked up a 4 channel beta sp deck to my NLE
system, and I am not sure how to wire the third and fourth channels to/from
my mixer and NLE. Right now I have it set up as follows:
From Deck to Mixer:
Channel 3 Out to Line In 5 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Channel 4 Out to Line In 6 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
From Mixer to Deck
Aux Send 1 to Channel 3 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Aux Send 2 to Channel 4 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" trs)
From NLE to Mixer
Channel 3 Out to Line In 11 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Channel 4 Out to Line In 12 (vis F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
From Mixer to NLE
Alt Out L/3 to Channel 3 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Alt Out R/4 to Channel 4 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
Not working!!
I would greatly appreciate it if someone has some advice for me.
Thanks in advance,
Ron Brown
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:55:26 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Message-ID:
That table proves the point. As you can see, a dual PIII 700 system performs
close to as well as a P4 1.4GHz system. Now put dual PIII 933s or 1GHz chips
in there and you will surpass it by quite a bit.
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Bettan, The Electronic Mailbox
[mailto:videoguy@concentric.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:16 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
At 11:00 AM 2/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>For DVStorm and most other applications, the fastest system for the buck is
>still Dual Pentium IIIs. In fact, the fastest system period is still Dual
>Pentium III 1GHz. There is no price point at which the Pentium 4 is
>competitive with Dual Pentium IIIs or a single Athlon.
Don't want to get bogged down in a P4 debate, I'm not a huge fan of them
.....yet.
But from Canopus own website:
http://www.canopuscorp.com/products/stormcpu.php3
The P4 holds its own against a dual 700. The only spot that it had lower
performance was real-time chromakey. PC makers are getting clobbered. They
need sales volume. Cost for P4 systems is falling. The gap is closing.
Gary
The Electronic Mailbox 800 323-2325
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:58:01 -0500
From: DPalomaki
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's proves you
wrong.
Message-ID: <3A81C4E9.F0A81270@cox.rr.com>
In general one cannot judge the lasting nature of any work of art
(visual or audio) during the lifetime of the artist or the
lifetime of folks who were alive while the artist
created/released his work. It take several generation beyond the
artist's lifetime to truly judge the endurance of the work.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:00:38 -0800
From: "John Holmgren"
To:
Subject: Re: [OT] web hosting companies
Message-ID: <005d01c09151$68c085c0$5707aace@jh570>
I need hosts that will accomodate JSP, PERL and WML, at modest cost,
for development, not production.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] web hosting companies
> I have used Interland before. I've developed several sites deployed to
their
> NT plan with MS SQL server. I have grievances with them, which mainly have
> to due with the fact that their shared NT+SQL hosting plans seemed to have
> problems with ASP. The site would break periodically or go through a
> terrible slow down, and the default session time was only five minutes. I
> traced all these down to their root source, which were several non-default
> settings they had tweaked to lessen the load on their servers. These
> settings work okay for many sites, but the very dynamic sites I'd
developed
> needed more.
>
> To their credit, though, they have an excellent support system. Not only
is
> their web-based interface for managing the site excellent, but their
> telephone support people are very knowledgeable on the whole, especially
> once they escalate you (which they must always do for me since I wouldn't
be
> calling unless it was a hairy issue). Also, on these settings that were a
> problem, they had no problem immediately changing these settings to
> accommodate me.
>
> I would probably use them again, but that is mostly because I've never
found
> an ISP I was 100% satisfied with, and so I would rather go with the
> known-evils of Interland since I now am aware of what tweaks need to be
made
> to iron out kinks in their service. Once those things are done, it seems
to
> work well.
>
> My own site is currently hosted at NetHollywood.net. I used to think they
> were a great value, but they have undergone numerous hacker attacks
because
> they host a site for a woman who writes anti-hacker books. My site and
email
> has gone down frequently of late, so at this point I am looking for a new
> ISP (actually I'm probably going to co-locate dedicated servers now). So
> don't get them.
>
> Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
> Krysalis Productions
> incubating creativity . . .
>
> Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
> www.KrysalisProductions.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perro Loco Productions [mailto:el_guapo@perroloco.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 4:29 PM
> To: editdv@ls005.datareturn.com; (After Effects Mail List); Work;
> Macromedia-UltraDev@yahoogroups.com; FLASHmacromedia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [OT] web hosting companies
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> We are shopping around for a new web hosting company. As a growing
> developer, we can no longer tolerate the local providers, and we need
> something better than "Billy Bob's Web Company and Rib Shack".
>
> We've read the ads, visited the sites, checked the "Top 25" lists, and our
> in-box is full of sales proposals.
>
> Although we can evaluate the services/prices/merits of each company, we
> cannot predict their actions. We are looking to hear about your
experiences
> with these companies.
>
> We want your horror stories. Who to avoid and why. Nightmares of 3-hour
hold
> times, lost ODBC/DSN settings, permissions gone berserk, mail servers that
> choke every 72 hours.
>
> I am considering Interland.com, Intermedia.net, Webhosting.com,
> Affinity.com, and HostPro.com to name a few. Any specific experience with
> these big guns would be very helpful.
>
>
> Reply privately to save bandwidth! Thanks in advance.
>
>
> --
>
> Jason Ahles
>
> Perro Loco Productions | Einstein Design
> http://www.perroloco.com | http://www.einstein-design.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:08:00 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Message-ID:
I agree mostly with Dave's response, although I think I can distill it a
little bit more down to its essence. Here's some points of comparison:
1. Yes, dual Pentium III systems (dual 1GHz) is currently the fastest,
providing you are using multi-threaded applications and environment (Windows
NT or 2000).
2. Overall, the single fastest processor available is the AMD Athlon 1.2GHz
(1.3GHz will be here very soon). It will beat a PIII 1GHz in every benchmark
and costs about the same.
3. The Pentium 4 at 1.5GHz is only able to beat the Athlon at 1.2GHz in a
few specific benchmarks, namely media-encoding and *some* 3D games such as
Quake III. The latter point is specific, though, as the Athlon will win in
most 3D games still, including other shooters like Unreal Tournament.
However, either system will be plenty for any game. What it really comes
down to at the high-end is workstation and server performance. While an edge
in media-encoding may be valuable to some, the huge advantage the Athlon
enjoys in floating-point operations makes it the hands-down pick for
professional 3D modelers and animators. Factor in the much lower cost and
the choice becomes even easier.
4. DDR SDRAM - The Pentium III will take very little advantage of DDR
memory, just as it did with RDRAM. See
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1402 to back this up. As long as DDR
is more than a little extra expensive compared to SDRAM, it doesn't make
sense to couple it with a Pentium III system. To a lesser degree, this is
also true with Athlon. However, Athlon is a little bit more memory hungry
than the PIII due to it's 200MHz or 266MHz effective bus speed, so it will
get some benefit. Of course, DDR will likely fall to very near the price of
SDRAM in the next few weeks, and then it will be justified.
5. EV6 Bus - A very simple way of explaining the benefits of the EV6's
point-to-point bus for multiprocessing, which Dave went deeply into, is
this: Pentium III and other current SMP implementations share the front-side
bus bandwidth among all processors. For example, a dual-Pentium III system
with a 133MHz bus can only allocate 66MHz to each processor if both are at
100% utilization; they are sharing. With the EV6 bus, each processor gets
the full pipe. So a dual-Athlon system with a 266Mhz bus gives a full 266MHz
to both processors simultaneously. This is when DDR will really come into
its own, with dual Athlons, since they will be able to feed memory a lot
faster.
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Quimpo [mailto:randy_quimpo@ltpi.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:39 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Hi Dave
Long post, very informative, but a little difficult to digest with limited
sleep. Please tell my brain in plain terms what is the right
processor/motherboard to buy for a storm system:
1. Athlon?
2. PIII(fastest Mhz available) in single CPU
3. dual PIII(?)
4. PIV?
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:15:15 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: Editing
Message-ID:
THAT scene drives me crazy for this very reason every time I watch the movie
(which is a couple times a year).
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Reilly [mailto:rreilly@gol.com]
...Another, is the dissolve in Tyrell's office suite where Decker
interviews Rachel at the long table. Dissolves, as most would agree,
generally denote a
passage of time, and indeed, is the case in this scene (of over 100
questions remarked
about, only 3 or 4 are shown). However, the dissolve connects two halves of
the SAME
sentence which DO NOT span a noteworthy passage of time...
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:13:58 -0500
From: "E Berlin"
To:
Subject: RE: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's proves you wrong.
Message-ID:
What you say is logical, but I don't agree. There are some people working
today or recently in various media whose work I am utterly convinced has
timeless merit and will last. That doesn't mean that interest in that
person's work won't wax and wane within limits, and of course I may be flat
wrong in individual cases. There are others perhaps whose general star may
fall and never rise again, but I think the value of the best work is as
plain now as it will be tomorrow. The point, in part, is that the "judging"
to which you refer happens over and over again. Work is never "judged" once
and for all. Everything's refracted through the crystals of the present.
Indeed the best work is also often the work that's evaluated most often
because it continues to engage people actively...
What you say is true for some artists and artifacts, but personally I don't
agree that it's true "in general."
EBerlin
-----Original Message-----
From: DPalomaki [mailto:dpalomaki@cox.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:58 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's
proves you wrong.
In general one cannot judge the lasting nature of any work of art
(visual or audio) during the lifetime of the artist or the
lifetime of folks who were alive while the artist
created/released his work. It take several generation beyond the
artist's lifetime to truly judge the endurance of the work.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:42:55 -0800
From: "Wes Lazara"
To:
Subject: Re: ABIT KT-7 Raid
Message-ID: <001701c09157$4faf88a0$360c10ac@SCHWABFOUNDATION.ORG>
hi Dick, make sure you have a normal size heatsink/fan... larger ones (such
as the thermaltake Super Orb i use) won't fit on the kt7 or kt7a... I'm
using the a7v133 (Asus's board with the same kt133a chipset) which has much
more clearance for hsf units...
both are great boards!
Wes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: ABIT KT-7 Raid
> FYI I've used this board with success coupled with both DVStorm and
DVRex-RT
> from Canopus.
>
> Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
> Krysalis Productions
> incubating creativity . . .
>
> Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
> www.KrysalisProductions.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dexter C Andrada [mailto:dvworks@edsamail.com.ph]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:55 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: ABIT KT-7 Raid
>
>
> Hey Dick,
>
> I remember in your previous post (long time ago) you mentioned that the
ABIT
> KT7-Raid is a good MB. Just wondering what capture card are you using with
> this? Canopus, Pinnacle, Matrox,?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Dexter
>
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:45:36 -0500
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Editing
Message-ID: <200102071745.AA2598568168@mail.xiveren.com>
>THAT scene drives me crazy for this very reason every time I watch the movie
>(which is a couple times a year).
>
>...Another, is the dissolve in Tyrell's office suite where Decker
>interviews Rachel at the long table. Dissolves, as most would agree,
>generally denote a
>passage of time, and indeed, is the case in this scene (of over 100
>questions remarked
>about, only 3 or 4 are shown). However, the dissolve connects two halves of
>the SAME
>sentence which DO NOT span a noteworthy passage of time...
What is this obsession with what dissolves are supposed to do? As most "who" would agree. I certainly don't. I also not the Tyler and Robert should avoid my new short movie which uses dissolves within the same scenes to excess...
Plus, you're dumping on one of the great scenes in the movie - sets up the whole story, mood, characters, tone - and you guys are hung up the logical use of a dissolve.
Well, what we really need is a long, meandering thread about how long a time gap must occur before a dissolve can be used. Hell, let's get it programmed into NLE's - that way, no one will use dissolves incorrectly. What - 2 minutes, 15 minutes, 3 hours, 1 day?
Okay, so I'm waxing sarcastic and flippant, but I'm always amazed at stuff people get hung about it. It seems DV-L has more of it's share of armchair art critics.
--
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"I am Jack's complete lack of surprise."
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:48:22 -0000
From: "kent kincannon"
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Message-ID:
I was wondering if there was any technique to "Hack" my PV DV800 panisonic
digital camera, a friend told me he found out how to hack his camera here
and he could manually controll brightness and show Z-patterns in the videw
finder. If anyone knows anything about this please let me know.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:02:06 -0500
From: "bullardc"
To:
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Message-ID: <00ac01c09173$4583b560$9a14850a@bh>
So, am I right in buying the 1.2 athlon and board for the dvstorm?
Is there a preferred board for it?
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:23:46 -0500
From: Walter Miale
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's
proves you wrong.
Message-ID:
>In general one cannot judge the lasting nature of any work of art
>(visual or audio) during the lifetime of the artist..... It take several
>generation beyond the
>artist's lifetime to truly judge the endurance of the work.
Isn't that like saying that we can't judge the worth of political leaders
until after several generations?
Even after a few centuries, you won't know, because you could have a
subsequent revival of interest. But of course you are right if you are
suggesting that saying that a work is worthy of lasting and saying that a
work actually will last are two different things.
Walter M
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:17:36 -1100
From: "TJ Lavata'i"
To:
Subject: Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Message-ID: <015501c0915c$28c08be0$3c4b4dc6@lavapro>
Okay - my turn:
* All guns sound like 45's - even bb guns
* All "computer experts" look like total geeks and live in one bedroom
apartments with a huge picture of Albert
Einstein . Obviously, they are paid much less than everyone else in the
movie - because everyone else lives
in wonderful homes in the suburbs. Of course, no computer geek with the
ability to crack any code in
existence could possibly get a well paying job - there's just too much
competition.
* ANYONE who carries and/or quotes from a bible is automatically either a
homicidal maniac, a con-artist, or a
cult leader intent on bringin on the end of the world.
* If the hero's a fifty year old man, he can still run two miles, leap from
tall buildings, and beat up fifty criminals
without taxing his pacemaker or getting out of breath. (Harrison -
Arnold)
* All young, gorgeous women really want Michael Douglas
* If you fly through a plate-glass window - you won't get a scratch on you.
* If you get shot - you can always just go to the hospital and they will
patch you up with a big piece of gauze and
let you go with no questions asked. Of course, when you get up from the
hospital bed, be sure to pick up your
gun, which they graciously allowed you to bring in with you.
* Aliens are neither green, nor do they look anything like men. Every alien
since "War of the Worlds" looks
something like a giant cockroach, or other disgusting bug.
* Any explosion will throw the good guy/girl out and away from the center .
Of course, even though the blast was powerful enough to send them flying 20
feet, it didn't cause a single scratch or singed hair.
* All Samoans are six foot five and built like "The Rock". They also never
speak.
And my personal favorite - heros NEVER run out of beer.......even if it's
the only thing in their refrigerator. Of course, all those hot dogs and beer
is what keeps them in such excellent physical shape ......
TJ Lavata'i
Lavata'i Productions
Am Samoa
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:50:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: gitzo sticks and head??
Message-ID: <20010207235053.6135.qmail@web4001.mail.yahoo.com>
I recently got a Gitzo, the same package you're
looking at but with the 1380/10 head, the one that
goes from 15 to 22 pounds.
It's great--much better than I had expected. I bought
it for use with a DSR250. Movement is nice and smooth,
ball leveling works great, and best of all, it weighs
a fraction of what my old O'Connor 50 does. Although I
got it for the 250, I've also been using it with a
DSR500 because it's so easy to carry around. Love
those carbon fiber legs.
You're right, no spreader, and that's nice actually.
But, as you say, you can't hang a sandbag. I haven't
needed to. Anything that needs to be that solid, I use
the O'Connor. The rubber pads screw down to let the
spikes out, just like on the Gitzo still camera
tripods, so you can dig it into the ground easy when
outdoors. I used it for 2 weeks in about 10 locations,
interior and exterior, and never had any movement
problems.
One neat thing about the Gitzo is the handle that
sticks down from under the ball leveler. Instead of a
knob, it's a handle about 6" long...makes it really
easy to pick up the tripod and camera with one hand.
Before I got the Gitzo, I had borrowed one of the
lightweight Sachtlers to use on a shoot with the 250.
I know it's probably considered sacreligeous to say
this, but I like the Gitzo a lot better than the
equivalent Sachtler, both in ease of use and in the
way the movement feels.
I also like the price--got it from B&H for around
$1500 or so. And, it comes with a padded bag. The bag
has a handle and a shoulder strap, and they also give
you a second shoulder strap that you can use to carry
the tripod without the bag...clever those French. I
like this Gitzo so well that the old O'Connor 50 is
pretty much living in the studio now, relegated to
teleprompter shoots.
--- John Hartney wrote:
> I'm in the market for a new tripod and I'm
> considering the gitzo 1380/7 head
> with the 1338 carbon fiber sticks... Anybody using
> this combo with a dv
> camera?
>
> Are the carbon fiber sticks too light? since
> there's no spreader, there's
> no place to add a sandbag if you needed to....
>
> I'm also thinking about the miller ds10 or sachtler
> dv4....
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated...
>
> What tripod/head combination to you use with your
> camera (s)?
> and what do you particularly like about it? I'm
> intentionally not being
> specific about the camera because I'd like a wide
> range of responses. But
> the general class would be from dsr 150 to 500...
>
> Or xl1 favorites?
>
> My old fav was a conner 50 on old vinten sticks...
> but they're too heavy for
> this light gear...
>
> Thanks...
>
> John Hartney
> Fox Valley DV
> 847.608.1357
>
>
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:13:49 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: gitzo sticks and head??
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010207190846.01e33d90@popserver.panix.com>
At 03:50 PM 2/7/01 -0800, Bill wrote:
>I recently got a Gitzo, the same package you're
>looking at but with the 1380/10 head, the one that
>goes from 15 to 22 pounds.
I'm definitely losing control of this list. I have no idea what's going on.
Should I be disgusted, aroused, or simply - indifferent?
BS, logging onto http://www.monster.com in search for a less challenging job
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:16:05 -0800 (PST)
From: mheffels@newsguy.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Other HAMs on the list
Message-ID: <200102080016.f180G5D70747@newsguy.com>
At Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:41:03 -0500, you wrote
>KA4YDM also a pilot.
>
>Walt
>
>From: "Rik Albury"
>
>> N6MOD wrote:
>>
>> "Any radio, used by good guys or bad guys, is an Amateur rig. Most
>> often a UHF handheld."
>>
>> Any other Hams out there? I wonder if we're fewer in number than
>> the women, and whether there's any overlap?
>>
>> de K4TTT-TV
And another one, PE1EEC, but soon to become VK2xxx (if I can find the ACA
office).
cheers
-martin-
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:39:41 -0600
From: "Kevin Triplett"
To:
Subject: RE: Other HAMs on the list
Message-ID: <000101c09167$9f9c8d30$0700a8c0@grumpy>
N5CIY checking in...
Kevin Triplet
>At Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:41:03 -0500, you wrote
>>KA4YDM also a pilot.
>>
>>Walt
>>
>>From: "Rik Albury"
>>
>>> N6MOD wrote:
>>>
>>> "Any radio, used by good guys or bad guys, is an Amateur rig. Most
>>> often a UHF handheld."
>>>
>>> de K4TTT-TV
>
>And another one, PE1EEC, but soon to become VK2xxx (if I can find the ACA
>office).
>
>-martin-
>
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:59:02 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Other_HAMs_on_the_list_<_=B7-_=B7=B7=B7_?=
=?iso-8859-1?Q?-=B7-?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_=B7=B7=B7_=B7--_=B7=B7=B7=B7_?=
---
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010207195642.03352340@popserver.panix.com>
- =B7=B7=B7=B7 =B7=B7 =B7=B7=B7 =B7=B7 =B7=B7=B7 --=B7 =B7 - - =B7=B7 -=B7=
--=B7 - --- - =B7- =B7-=B7=B7 =B7-=B7=B7 -=B7-- =B7-- =B7 =B7=B7=20
=B7-=B7 -=B7=B7 -=B7=B7 =B7 -=B7=B7=B7 =B7=B7=B7
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:04:47 +0100
From: "Rob Tempelman"
To: "DV-L"
Subject: Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Message-ID: <002601c0916b$2296a4c0$178055c3@castel199126>
> 4) Action heros who get kicked in the head a dozen times and get
> back up for more. The last Lethal Weapon was especially funny in
> this respect.
>
> any more?
>
> Paul
All those guys when chased by a car keep on running at the middle of the
street, the car can't catch up with them for dozens of seconds....
Rob
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:21:38 -0600
From: "Marc C. Hood, EdD"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Other HAMs on the list <
=?iso-8859-1?Q?=B7=2D=20=B7=B7=B7=20=2D=B7=2D=20=20=B7=B7=B7=20=B7=2D=2D=20=B7=B7=B7=B7?=
---
Message-ID: <3A81F4A2.A73D1F0B@adent.com>
First flippant use of the Dreaded Acronym and now this! :-) I'm gonna need a translator for this one. The only experience I've had with Ham is when one in my neighborhood sent the FCC to
get me because my leaky Amiga 1000 was interfering with his dits and daas to Japan. I got a real lesson about the pecking order...first are Hams, then the TV in my living room and *then*
(down near the bottom ;-) are your home based video editing suites.
mhood, CIC-CFRO
Bertel Schmitt wrote:
> - ···· ·· ··· ·· ··· --· · - - ·· -· --· - --- - ·- ·-·· ·-·· -·-- ·-- · ··
> ·-· -·· -·· · -··· ···
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:22:38 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_Other_HAMs_on_the_list_=3C_=B7-_=B7=B7=B7?=
=?iso-8859-1?Q?_-=B7-_=B7=B7=B7_=B7--_=B7=B7=B7=B7__---_?=
Message-ID:
For the benefit of our Morse code-challenged members, Bertel wrote:
Subject: RE: Other HAMs on the list < =B7- =B7=B7=B7 -=B7- =B7=B7=B7 =
=B7-- =B7=B7=B7=B7 ---=20
a s k s w h o
- =B7=B7=B7=B7 =B7=B7 =B7=B7=B7 =B7=B7 =B7=B7=B7 --=B7 =B7 - - =B7=B7 =
-=B7 --=B7 - --- - =B7- =B7-=B7=B7 =B7-=B7=B7 -=B7-- =B7-- =B7 =B7=B7=20
t h i s i s g e t t i n g t o t a l l y w =
e i
=B7-=B7 -=B7=B7 -=B7=B7 =B7 -=B7=B7=B7 =B7=B7=B7
r d d e B S
de K4TTT-TV (-Rik.) [CIC]
(BTW, is "BS" a valid call sign?)
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:30:16 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Other_HAMs_on_the_list_<_=B7-_=B7=B7=B7_?=
=?iso-8859-1?Q?-=B7-?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_=B7=B7=B7_=B7--_=B7=B7=B7=B7__?=
---
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010207202958.03a95020@popserver.panix.com>
At 07:22 PM 2/7/01 -0600, Rik CIC wrote:
>(BTW, is "BS" a valid call sign?)
-=B7-- --- =B7=B7- -=B7=B7=B7 =B7 - -=B7-=B7 =B7=B7=B7=B7 =B7-
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:31:00 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject:
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Other_HAMs_on_the_list_<__=B7-_=B7=B7=B7_?=
=?iso-8859-1?Q?-=B7-?=
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Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010207212920.03ab2bf0@popserver.panix.com>
At 07:21 PM 2/7/01 -0600, mhood, CIC-CFRO wrote:
>I'm gonna need a translator for this one.
There's nothing you won't find on the web:
http://www.ing.hb.se/users/data/da9726/homepage/morse.htm
-=B7=B7=B7 =B7=B7=B7
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:41:44 -0500
From: "vinny"
To:
Subject: Additional Storage
Message-ID: <002601c09178$ad071740$0717c6cf@egaqq>
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I would like to add more storage capacity to my computer. Presently I =
have two (27 Gig) hard drives. I am thinking to add an 80 gig firewire =
external harddrive which can be had for about $390. It will, of course =
require I add another PCI firewire card as my understanding is that my =
exisiting Digital Origin card, while having 3 ports, will only support =
one device at a time and would not be compatable with a storage device =
anyway.
The drive I am considering is a Maxtor and its rotational speed is 5400 =
rpms. As I wish to dedicate this drive for video editing, I would like =
to know if it will perform acceptably. And also, should I be concerned =
with compatability with the firewire card or will any card do?
Suggestions, caveats and opinions will be most welcomed.
Thanks....
Vinny
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Suggestions, caveats and opinions will = be most=20 welcomed.
Thanks....
Vinny
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:49:51 -0500
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Subject: RE: DV-L V1 #759
Message-ID: <005901c09179$cefe0c40$c955a818@nyc.rr.com>
> I think greed has killed art in movies and music.
You know -- you're probably right. Why learn to make art when you can
make so much money making shit.
Finally saw InSync on Superbowel. My god what trash!
Best Regards,
Steve Mullen
Digital Video Consulting NYC
www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:57:36 -0600
From: Danny Grizzle
To:
Subject: Re: gitzo sticks and head??
Message-ID:
on 2/7/01 2:53 PM, John Hartney at jhart3@hotmail.com wrote:
> I'm in the market for a new tripod and I'm considering the gitzo 1380/7 head
> with the 1338 carbon fiber sticks... Anybody using this combo with a dv
> camera?
I'm using the Gitzo, and have to say that I am fairly happy with it. I don't
know that it will be great for both the DSR 150 and the DSR 500 because they
are so different in weight. There are several Gitzo heads with various
counterspring settings. Like you, I will probably add a DSR150 to my DSR500
package that I bought the Gitzo for. I think it will still be useful, even
if mismatched on weight. The only thing where the exact match on
counterspring tension for the camera's weight would be critical would be a
situation where you needed to lock off the camera, especially over long
periods of time. In that case, the Gitzo counterspring will tend to pull the
shot off where you set it.
I've got an old Bogen Mini Fluid Head that should work great with the
DSR-150, which I use on top of my Gitzo Studex still camera legs. I wouldn't
plan to routinely use the DSR-150 and the DSR-500 on the same Gitzo support
- you can get lighter/smaller for the DSR-150.
If you go with Gitzo, I would make sure that you buy from a dealer where you
can exchange the head if it doesn't work out. I bought mine off the floor at
NAB. I wouldn't do this again, because I had just bought the camera, lens,
batteries, and Chrosiel matte box. The weight match is critical to the head.
This was the year Sony stopped handing out hardcopy on their literature, so
I didn't have actual specs on the DSR500. Didn't take delivery of camera and
lens until weeks later. I should have waited for delivery on all the
components, then done a real-world weigh-in on my rig. As it is, my system
works, but the balance adjustments on the plate seem extreme, and I feel
like I could have specified a better match on the specific Gitzo head model.
These same weight factors also played into my decision to standardize on one
size and one brand of battery. I can't be slowed in production by resetting
balance on the tripod head or jib arm with every battery change.
> Are the carbon fiber sticks too light? since there's no spreader, there's
> no place to add a sandbag if you needed to....
There's not a spreader on most carbon fiber Sachtlers or Vintens either. It
shouldn't be a problem to hang a shot bag off an s-hook from the top of the
tripod, this is what I do when I use the Gitzo legs riding on top of my
Microdolly (Microdolly uses a cord tensioner, not weight).
The thing about carbon fiber is it works great so long as you don't load it
past its rated capacity. If you do, the leg collets will slip. Carbon fiber
is great for most things, very lightweight, and won't stick to your skin in
cold weather. But don't load them past their rated capacity.
I bought a Microdolly Jib-Arm, and the Gitzo legs would not work for this
because of all the counter balance weights - the rig can easily get upwards
of 100 lbs. I wound up buying the Microdolly legs, but still mount the Gitzo
head to the boom arm.
> I'm also thinking about the miller ds10 or sachtler dv4....
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated...
>
> What tripod/head combination to you use with your camera (s)?
> and what do you particularly like about it? I'm intentionally not being
> specific about the camera because I'd like a wide range of responses. But
> the general class would be from dsr 150 to 500...
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:05:25 -0500
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Subject: RE: "the masses"
Message-ID: <005a01c0917b$fb5795c0$c955a818@nyc.rr.com>
but are "the masses" any less mature today than they were back then?
the old Hollywood studio system.
That's a good question. So here's a way to find out. Watch AMC and TCM
for one month. The watch HBO for one month. Bet you can't make it
through the HBO month.
Both show "popular" movies of their time.
Best Regards,
Steve Mullen
Digital Video Consulting NYC
www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:05:25 -0500
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Subject: RE: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <005b01c0917b$fb89f060$c955a818@nyc.rr.com>
Mozart complains about Baroque style music because it's for people who
"sh*t marble."
I'D AGREE WITH HIM.
As a young-un, I don't get a lot of exposure to the trash artists from
the 50-70's who were wildly popular, but didn't last. I'm sure,
though, there are slews of them...
NOT as many as you might think in the 50s. Recording was expensive. As
soon as it became cheap any kid could make a recording. Plus, the worst
of the 49' - 60's music is better than today's best music. (Actually --
who is the best now.)
Best Regards,
Steve Mullen
Digital Video Consulting NYC
www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:44:08 -0500
From: Em
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro
Message-ID:
Hi,
That is a sticky one...you would either need more Aux Sends or
a Patchbay...
But, If your tight....connect the Beta Outputs
direct to the NLE....? Depending on the deck there should be a
monitor control for the output or... line level input on the NLE ....
Do your edits....when Mastering....Pass the NLE Outputs to the
Mackie for Levels and Eq's directly to Betacam Inputs.....?
You may have to use the "Tape Out" and "Alt out's" to get 4 outs
since you will need your Master out to the Amp.
I have a feeling you will need to do seperate passes for 4-Channels
of Audio.....Sub down to 2(Stereo)
The 1402-VlZ Pro is a great mixer...but not for what you have...
not enough I/O's
But, I'm Sure if you Patch all Outputs to Mixer, both Deck and NLE,
you can always physically patch the Sends of each unit manually?
Hope this Helps
Em
>If anyone out there is familiar with the Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro, I would
>appreciate some help. I just hooked up a 4 channel beta sp deck to my NLE
>system, and I am not sure how to wire the third and fourth channels to/from
>my mixer and NLE. Right now I have it set up as follows:
>
>From Deck to Mixer:
>Channel 3 Out to Line In 5 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
>Channel 4 Out to Line In 6 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
>From Mixer to Deck
>Aux Send 1 to Channel 3 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
>Aux Send 2 to Channel 4 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" trs)
>From NLE to Mixer
>Channel 3 Out to Line In 11 (via F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
>Channel 4 Out to Line In 12 (vis F-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
>From Mixer to NLE
>Alt Out L/3 to Channel 3 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
>Alt Out R/4 to Channel 4 In (via M-XLR to 1/4" TRS)
>
>Not working!!
>
>I would greatly appreciate it if someone has some advice for me.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Ron Brown
>
>
>
>
>---(cut off when replying)-------------------
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:50:25 -0600
From: "Marc C. Hood, EdD"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <3A821781.846217A0@adent.com>
I bet I'm reading you wrong, but you sure are sounding a little snooty to me.
Steve Mullen wrote:
> Mozart complains about Baroque style music because it's for people who
> "sh*t marble."
>
> I'D AGREE WITH HIM.
>
If Mozart were alive today, I can't help but wonder if he'd be into hip hop or techno pop...but I'm pretty sure you'd think he sux ;-) I forgot, he'd have probably died of aids a few years
back...
>
> As a young-un, I don't get a lot of exposure to the trash artists from
> the 50-70's who were wildly popular, but didn't last. I'm sure,
> though, there are slews of them...
>
Yea...Ray Charles, Elvis, Dylan, The Beatles, The Stones...there were slews of those trash artists who didn't last. Grab a CD of the Monterey Pop Festival and listen to the noise all those
trash artists blamed on the horrible sound system. Still can't believe Hendrix was able to sound decent through that sorry excuse for a PA. Of course, Pearl sounded like God sent her down
from heaven to show us all just how blue a white girl from Texas could be singing with a two bit garage band through a junk PA....real garbage.
All I know is I went in to Easy Rider a high school red neck with an attitude you'd expect in a little Texas town and I came out a hippie peace freak with a smile on my face. It really did
change my life and I suspect the sound track had more to do with it than the Harleys.
>
> NOT as many as you might think in the 50s. Recording was expensive. As
> soon as it became cheap any kid could make a recording. Plus, the worst
> of the 49' - 60's music is better than today's best music. (Actually --
> who is the best now.)
>
Ricky Martin's kinda cute...it's got a back beat...you can't loose it...
mhood, CIC-CFRO
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:15:24 -0800
From: Scot Hacker
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Seeking beta testers for real-time NLE
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010207201057.00ae6280@mail.adamation.com>
Adamation (www.adamation.com) is pleased to announce the first public beta
preview of a brand new, real-time, digital video NLE for Windows. After
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- Ten layers. While most NLEs in the sub-$100 category let you work with
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Visit http://www.adamation.com/pSbeta/ and sign up to become a beta tester.
All beta testers who respond with comments or bug reports will be entitled
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video camera with IEEE-1394 port, and Windows-compatible IEEE-1394 card.
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personalStudio does not run on Windows 95, Windows 98 First Edition, or
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the beta program, visit
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-- The Adamation Crew
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Adamation, Inc.
510.285.1725
shacker@adamation.com
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:14:10 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010207231109.02e5f8e0@popserver.panix.com>
At 09:50 PM 2/7/01 -0600, Marc wrote:
>If Mozart were alive today, I can't help but wonder if he'd be into hip
>hop or techno pop...but I'm pretty sure you'd think he sux ;-) I forgot,
>he'd have probably died of aids a few years
>back...
This should get interesting. In 1.5 sentences, Marc managed to insult 50%
of the world's minorities, including the Austrians. Fire away !
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:26:23 -0500
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: MiniDisc Recorder
Message-ID: <000401c09187$4bf2f500$4423a8c0@dell420me>
We're in the market for a low-cost MiniDisc recorder for battery-powered
wild sound and supplemental dialog. Any good experiences, recommendations,
prices, alternatives?
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"It's only after you've lost everything
that you're free to do anything."
~Tyler~
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:30:06 -0600
From: "Marc C. Hood, EdD"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <3A8220CE.E362D7AF@adent.com>
Only 50%, who'd I miss :-)
mhood
Bertel Schmitt wrote:
>
> This should get interesting. In 1.5 sentences, Marc managed to insult 50%
> of the world's minorities, including the Austrians. Fire away !
>
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:31:07 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID:
>This should get interesting. In 1.5 sentences, Marc managed to insult 50%
>of the world's minorities, including the Austrians. Fire away !
He's the CFRO, right?
-r. [CIC]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:41:50 -0600
From: "Marc C. Hood, EdD"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <3A82238E.D309F48F@adent.com>
All rites deserved...
mhood, (I'm on a highway to Purgatory-L) CIC-CFRO
Rik Albury wrote:
> He's the CFRO, right?
>
> -r. [CIC]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:54:23 -0800
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: Any comments on Profeel Mktg.?
Message-ID: <00c701c0918b$34c0b4e0$0400a8c0@charterpipeline.com>
I recently bought a Sony VX-2000. I asked 4 companies in the Los Angeles
area for a quote. Only heard from Samy's Camera....they sent me a number to
call. I called and got a price. They next day I went to look at the
VX-2000 and I thought to buy it. After a demo, the salesman quoted me
$100.00 more than I had been quoted on the phone less than a day before.
When I asked why he got his back up. I left. Next moring I called B&H and
got it for $2500 which was a savings of $200.00 the sales tax savings was
another $200.00 savings. Over night shipping was $64.00 and I had it in Los
Angeles by 10:00AM the next day. Before I got off the phone they told me it
was in stock, that the credit card had been approved, and gave me an order
number. I have made 3 major equipment purchases from them in the last year
with the same level of service.
I am a very satisfied B&H customer.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Rik Albury
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: Any comments on Profeel Mktg.?
> bgunder asked:
>
> >I'm considering making a purchase from Profeel, ... but I'd like to hear
from
> >any of you DVLers who have had dealings with them. Good guys? or...
>
> I bought an XL-1 from 'em. Guess I got a pretty good deal, and they did
what
> they promised, eventually, but they strung me along for a month. If I had
it
> to do again, I'd probably pay a little more (or maybe not) and get it from
> B&H or G&G. At least they (B&H) told me at the time that they would not
be
> able to ship it right away.
>
> -Rik. [CIC]
>
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:58:37 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010207235520.02e60ec0@popserver.panix.com>
At 10:30 PM 2/7/01 -0600, mhood wrote:
>Only 50%, who'd I miss :-)
Gosh, he wants to do even more damage .... Are you sure you weren't close
to the Whitehouse today? How's your knee?
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:05:36 -0800
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Message-ID: <010501c0918c$c5fe4c00$0400a8c0@charterpipeline.com>
I like the Abit board with built in RAID.....mine is very fast
----- Original Message -----
From: bullardc
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
> So, am I right in buying the 1.2 athlon and board for the dvstorm?
> Is there a preferred board for it?
>
>
>
> ---(cut off when replying)-------------------
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:09:50 -0800
From: "Wes Lazara"
To:
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Message-ID: <000b01bf7385$0ef58800$4cd30341@pesos>
only problem with abit kt7 and kt7a (raid and non-raid versions) is that
they have the capacitors too close to the socket, so larger heatsink/fans
can't be used. i recommend the Asus a7v133. i have my duron 700 (7x100)
running at 933 (7x133) with a thermaltake super orb ($25) rock solid at
1.85v
regards,
Wes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
> I like the Abit board with built in RAID.....mine is very fast
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bullardc
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
>
>
> > So, am I right in buying the 1.2 athlon and board for the dvstorm?
> > Is there a preferred board for it?
> >
> >
> >
> > ---(cut off when replying)-------------------
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:22:01 -0800
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Message-ID: <011b01c0918f$134f7860$0400a8c0@charterpipeline.com>
i have a pretty large fan on mine and have not had this problem.
dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Wes Lazara
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
> only problem with abit kt7 and kt7a (raid and non-raid versions) is that
> they have the capacitors too close to the socket, so larger heatsink/fans
> can't be used. i recommend the Asus a7v133. i have my duron 700 (7x100)
> running at 933 (7x133) with a thermaltake super orb ($25) rock solid at
> 1.85v
>
> regards,
> Wes
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Lague"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
>
>
> > I like the Abit board with built in RAID.....mine is very fast
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: bullardc
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
> >
> >
> > > So, am I right in buying the 1.2 athlon and board for the dvstorm?
> > > Is there a preferred board for it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:26:30 -0600
From: "Marc C. Hood, EdD"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <3A822E05.E08E1AB5@adent.com>
What's the emoticon for tongue in cheek?
Man...what a day...gotta get to bed. Tell the film bigots to leave the rockers alone or I will taunt them again. I mean really..."you can't do good music these days because everyone can
afford to do it"...on a DV List yet...grrrrrrrrrrr!
mhood
Bertel Schmitt wrote:
> At 10:30 PM 2/7/01 -0600, mhood wrote:
> >Only 50%, who'd I miss :-)
>
> Gosh, he wants to do even more damage .... Are you sure you weren't close
> to the Whitehouse today? How's your knee?
>
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:35:07 -0800
From: "Jeremy Lanni"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Looking for DV Crew for N.J. Shoot Next Sept.
Message-ID:
Hi Folks!
Noble Savage Productions making a DV feature in Bayonne, New Jersey next
September and is looking for a DP, a Sound Mixer, and an Editor. All three
must have experience working in the DV format. 2-3 wk. shoot. Payment
deferred.
The film “Nobody Beats Charlie” is a tragedy about a tough, self-made
businessman who loses everything over a trifle because he is too proud to
accept the fact that someone got the better of him.
We can be contacted at jdlanni@hotmail.com.
Thank you for taking the time to read my request.
Sincerely,
Jeremy Dylan Lanni
_________________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 00:43:03 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Marc gets suicidal, was: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010208003927.044f0ab0@popserver.panix.com>
At 11:26 PM 2/7/01 -0600, mhood wrote:
>Man...what a day...gotta get to bed. Tell the film bigots to leave the
>rockers alone or I will taunt them again.
You've heard the man, film bigots. Leave his rocker alone, willya?
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:52:36 -0800
From: "Fred Greissing"
To:
Subject: RE: Rt2000 vs generic dv card question
Message-ID:
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A Good choice is a Pyro Basic DV. eCost.com has them at around $ 50.
You will have to render everything, but that's not a big. Premiere 6 is very
fast
and native DV is easy to set up.
You may want to check out my plug-in The Consolidator to consolidate
rendering
and streamline the production process. You can try it for free for 30 days.
Check out my site for info on The Consolidator.
www.premieretools.com
Cheers
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Vinet [mailto:peter_vinet@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 1:28 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Rt2000 vs generic dv card question
Could someone explain to an uninitiated one the difference between using
an rt2000 vs a generic dv capture card when capturing and editing with
Premiere 6?
I just got Prem6 and would like to now get a dv capture board. I know that
rt2000 does some realtime effects, whereas with a low cost dv board , you
must render everything. If I want to get my feet wet with a 100 to 200
dollar dv card, what kinds of problems/ frustrations am I going to run into?
What would be a good recommendation for a low cost dv board?
Thanks for your help
Peter
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A Good=20 choice is a Pyro Basic DV. eCost.com has them at around $=20 50.
You=20 will have to render everything, but that's not a big. Premiere 6 is very = fast=20
and=20 native DV is easy to set up.
You=20 may want to check out my plug-in The Consolidator to consolidate = rendering=20
and=20 streamline the production process. You can try it for free for 30=20 days.
Check=20 out my site for info on The Consolidator.
www.premieretools.com
Cheers
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Vinet=20 [mailto:peter_vinet@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, January = 31, 2001=20 1:28 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Rt2000 vs = generic=20 dv card question
Could someone explain to an = uninitiated one the=20 difference between using an rt2000 vs a generic dv capture card when = capturing=20 and editing with Premiere 6?
I just got Prem6 and would like to = now get a dv=20 capture board. I know that rt2000 does some realtime effects, whereas = with a=20 low cost dv board , you must render everything. If I want to get my = feet wet=20 with a 100 to 200 dollar dv card, what kinds of problems/ frustrations = am I=20 going to run into?
What would be a good recommendation = for a low=20 cost dv board?
Thanks for your help
Peter
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:58:37 -0800
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: stupid movie screw-ups (was RE:Editing Peeves)
Message-ID:
At 8:57 pm -0500 6/2/01, Triglyph@aol.com wrote:
>Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German officer, it will not be
>When they are alone, all foreigners prefer to speak English to each other.
Surely you mean American? How about:
All historical characters speak idiomatic modern American at all times.
(I saw Mansfield Park last night and was amused by a character
referring to a bad play as 'trash')
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:09:41 -0800
From: "Wes Lazara"
To:
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
Message-ID: <000901bf738d$6b156350$4cd30341@pesos>
a large "fan" is fine, but a large heatsink that extends outside the area of
the socket will be a problem... you can see how close the capacitors are to
the socket so hsf units like the thermaltake super orb cannot be used
without stripping the capacitors...
regards,
Wes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
> i have a pretty large fan on mine and have not had this problem.
>
> dick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wes Lazara
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
>
>
> > only problem with abit kt7 and kt7a (raid and non-raid versions) is that
> > they have the capacitors too close to the socket, so larger
heatsink/fans
> > can't be used. i recommend the Asus a7v133. i have my duron 700
(7x100)
> > running at 933 (7x133) with a thermaltake super orb ($25) rock solid at
> > 1.85v
> >
> > regards,
> > Wes
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dick Lague"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
> >
> >
> > > I like the Abit board with built in RAID.....mine is very fast
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: bullardc
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:02 PM
> > > Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
> > >
> > >
> > > > So, am I right in buying the 1.2 athlon and board for the dvstorm?
> > > > Is there a preferred board for it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:55:56 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: Additional Storage
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Putting two firewire cards in a system may give you some headaches, but
everyone's mileage varies. Some have done okay. I'm attempting this by
putting an OHCI card with DVStorm in the same system later this month.
Why would you prefer a Firewire drive? It seems like a lot of people want
these but there's no real reason that they know of that makes it better than
IDE, they just like that it uses Firewire. You should really make sure this
is the best solution before you decide no to get a traditional internal IDE
device. Of course maybe you know your reasons already...
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: vinny [mailto:vinny@dreamscape.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:42 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Additional Storage
I would like to add more storage capacity to my computer. Presently I have
two (27 Gig) hard drives. I am thinking to add an 80 gig firewire external
harddrive which can be had for about $390. It will, of course require I add
another PCI firewire card as my understanding is that my exisiting Digital
Origin card, while having 3 ports, will only support one device at a time
and would not be compatable with a storage device anyway.
The drive I am considering is a Maxtor and its rotational speed is 5400
rpms. As I wish to dedicate this drive for video editing, I would like to
know if it will perform acceptably. And also, should I be concerned with
compatability with the firewire card or will any card do?
Suggestions, caveats and opinions will be most welcomed.
Thanks....
Vinny
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Putting two firewire cards in a system may = give you=20 some headaches, but everyone's mileage varies. Some have done okay. I'm=20 attempting this by putting an OHCI card with DVStorm in the same system = later=20 this month.
Why=20 would you prefer a Firewire drive? It seems like a lot of people want = these but=20 there's no real reason that they know of that makes it better than IDE, = they=20 just like that it uses Firewire. You should really make sure this is the = best=20 solution before you decide no to get a traditional internal IDE device. = Of=20 course maybe you know your reasons already...
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis=20 Productions
= incubating=20 creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE=20 Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: vinny=20 [mailto:vinny@dreamscape.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, = 2001=20 6:42 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Additional = Storage
I would like to add more storage = capacity to my=20 computer. Presently I have two (27 Gig) hard drives. I am thinking to = add=20 an 80 gig firewire external harddrive which can be had for = about=20 $390. It will, of course require I add another PCI firewire card as my = understanding is that my exisiting Digital Origin card, while having 3 = ports,=20 will only support one device at a time and would not be compatable = with a=20 storage device anyway.
The drive I am considering is a = Maxtor and its=20 rotational speed is 5400 rpms. As I wish to dedicate this drive for = video=20 editing, I would like to know if it will perform acceptably. And = also, =20 should I be concerned with compatability with the firewire card or = will any=20 card do?
Suggestions, caveats and opinions = will be most=20 welcomed.
Thanks....
Vinny
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:57:29 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
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Unless you're overclocking your system, I see no reason to have a fan so
large it won't work on an Abit KT7.
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Lague [mailto:rlague@charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:22 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
i have a pretty large fan on mine and have not had this problem.
dick
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:00:07 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
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Are you "right"? Well, it'll give you excellent performance for the buck. It
will perform similar to Dual Pentium III 650s with DVStorm and its
associated applications. You will definitely get a fair amount of real-time
performance out of it, or else I wouldn't have Athlons as an option in my
turnkey systems. However, don't expect it to beat dual Pentium III 1GHz in
all-out performance. It is a good value, a good performer, but not the
fastest available.
Try either an Abit KT7A or Asus A7V133A.
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: bullardc [mailto:bullardc@one.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:02 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Storm approved in Precision 330
So, am I right in buying the 1.2 athlon and board for the dvstorm?
Is there a preferred board for it?
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:05:06 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: Editing
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For the record, I don't agree that everyone should basically throw dissolves
out the window. I think every transition has its place, and a good artists
uses all his tools and knows when to use them.
We're (or at least I) not rejecting the use of the dissolve in that scene,
just the way its used. It's meant to suggest the passage of time, but the
conversation continues to carry through it, which makes it inconsistent. It
sticks out in your head. All they needed to do was fade the audio track into
a later point in the conversation along with the dissolve and it would have
reinforced the intended effect. But you're right, other than this issue the
scene is a very good one and pivotal to the movie.
Of course there are plenty of armchair critics here! What would you expect?
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen van Vuuren [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:46 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Editing
What is this obsession with what dissolves are supposed to do? As most "who"
would agree. I certainly don't. I also not the Tyler and Robert should avoid
my new short movie which uses dissolves within the same scenes to excess...
Plus, you're dumping on one of the great scenes in the movie - sets up the
whole story, mood, characters, tone - and you guys are hung up the logical
use of a dissolve.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:19:49 -0800
From: "Tyler A. Hawes"
To:
Subject: RE: I'd say the crap produced since the late 60's-early 70's proves you wrong.
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Richard Taylor wrote:
"I've not heard the Beatles more than a dozen times in the past 2o
years or so. {At least not that I can recall and not once of my own
volition {Possibly a couple of times on the radio. {maybe more than
2o}}}"
Anyone know what band grossed the most money in the year 2000? THE BEATLES!
So Rich, it goes to show how subjective our experience of culture is. I hear
them frequently, and over 30 years after their introduction they've had the
biggest selling year ever! BTW, that's the second year in a row that The
Beatles have been the top money-maker in the biz!
(I heard this on a new story from Access Hollywood - it was an accident that
I saw this during channel surfing - so that's my source...)
Tyler A. Hawes, Director of Services
Krysalis Productions
incubating creativity . . .
Web | Video | Animation | NLE Workstations
www.KrysalisProductions.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:30:15 -0500
From: "Daniel Woodard"
To:
Subject: Re: Mozart complains about Baroque
Message-ID: <00ae01c091a0$fb5d1430$0b01a8c0@ein>
> NOT as many as you might think in the 50s. Recording was expensive. As
> soon as it became cheap any kid could make a recording. Plus, the worst
> of the 49' - 60's music is better than today's best music. (Actually --
> who is the best now.)
Aphex Twin (basically one dude Richard D James)
Guided By Voices (basically one dude Richard Pollard)
Big Black/Shellac (basically Steve Albini bands)
The Fall (bascially one dude Mark E. Smith- only the Rolling Stones edge 'em
out of being the world's best R&R band)
are some pretty good "hey I can record my own crap cheap" artists.
Check 'em out.
GBV are crayzy prolific, 20-30 songs per album, tons of albums, a surprising
amount of which is really really good. Top pop.
Aphex Twin is just all over the place with that ambient techno stuff, but I
think it's really rather good as well Varied.
The Fall have like 30 records. Not all great, but when they're on, ouch, the
some of the best. Cynical as all hell.
Steve Albini hates CD and presses some really nice thick vinyl LPs. Rock.
The radio and MTV have just forced the good stuff to stay down low-fi.
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 02:37:39 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt