DV-L Mon, 12 Feb 2001 Volume 1 : Number 764
In this issue:
RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
Duelling Scanners
Rank: Amateur
Re: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
sound problem
RE: Rank: Amateur
Re: Sound Forge
Re: Rank: Amateur
Re: Rank: Amateur
RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
Re: NOTAC: Embargoed topics "AGREED"!
up from DV?
RE: NOTAC: Embargoed topics "AGREED"!
NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
DV to BetaCam
RE: Now I'll be even grumpier.
Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction
Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
RE: Now I'll be even grumpier < You are reading my mind.
Re: Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction
Re: Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction
Re: DV to BetaCam
Re: up from DV?
Re: Duelling Scanners
Avid CoDec
Re: NOTAC: Embargoed topics "AGREED"!
Re: Illegal Operation
A pet peeve of my own - Real and useful customer service lacking
Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal Operation)
Re: Avid CoDec
Re: A pet peeve of my own - Real and useful customer service lacking
Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
Re: DV to BetaCam
Re: up from DV?
Re: NOTAC: Embargoed topics
Re: up from DV?
Re: NOTAC: Embargoed topics
RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal Operation)
DV Converter 2.1 now avaialbe for download
Swapping audio in FCP
Re: DV Converter 2.1 now avaialbe for download
Re: DV Converter 2.1 now avaialbe for download
Re: DV Converter 2.1 now avaialbe for download
audio swapping never mind
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal
Operation)
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal Operation)
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
QT5 codec with DVRaptor?
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Re: Rank: Amateur
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Where's the new Panasonic dvcam/ DVC200??
Video Man Gone Bad
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Re: Where's the new Panasonic dvcam/ DVC200??
Re: Video Man Gone Bad in Pascack Valley
Re: DV Converter 2.1 - What Platform?
Re: Video Man Gone Bad in Pascack Valley
Re: Where's the new Panasonic dvcam/ DVC200??
Sennheiser ME66/K6... got it.
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Re: Apple : Please integrate iMovie and FCP
Re: up from DV?
Re: up from DV?
Re: Video Man Gone Bad
Re: Video Man Gone Bad
Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal
Operation)
RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
RE: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal Operation)
Re: Video Man Gone Bad
Re: Avid CoDec
Re: DV Converter 2.1 - What Platform?
Re: Video Man Gone Bad
Premiere 6 with DVRaptor
Re: QT5 codec with DVRaptor?
Re: Premiere 6 with DVRaptor
RE: Premiere 6 with DVRaptor
QT5 & FCP
OT: Photoshop 6 question
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:08:01 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Subject: RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
Message-ID:
I think Sonic Foundry products (Sound Forge, DirectX Noise Reduction,
etc.) are PC Windows products only. Sorry! DirectX Noise Reduction is
a plugin for Sound Forge, not Premiere. I would guess there are
equivalent software products for the Mac. I am not sure you will find
an audio noise reduction plugin software product for FCP or even
Premiere though. I am sure somebody on this list will point out if any
are available, though.
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
-----Original Message-----
.....Do they offer a plug in that works with FCP?
Thanks,
George W. Fisher
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 04:47:16 -0800
From: Lori & David Tango
To:
Subject: Duelling Scanners
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010211043205.00a2c9b0@mail.flashcom.net>
>I have a Minolta Diamge Scan Dual II
If your Minolta mated with my HP we'd have a Hewlett Minolta Photo Diamge
Dual S20 II Smart. Take the market by storm, I'll bet.
-David Tango,
Home Enthusiast
p.s. I had a Minolta mini-VHS camcorder that worked fine for 10 years. They
made a great lens! It was only when Minolta discontinued the batteries
that I switched to a GL-1.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 04:59:19 -0800
From: Lori & David Tango
To:
Subject: Rank: Amateur
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010211045407.00a23b60@mail.flashcom.net>
At 12:37 AM 02/11/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>"wannabes," teachers and independent
>professinals on the list
JHC, I am just a financial advisor who likes to make home movies. No
wonder I feel so small.
http://randomfilm.com/streams/lobstertale.rm
http://randomfilm.com/streams/lobstertale.mov
-DT
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:05:18 -0500
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
Message-ID: <002101c0942e$e3db9940$6401a8c0@design1>
Actually Premiere 6 is supposed to use DirectX plugins so the Noise
Reduction plugin might actually work directly in Premiere. When I get my
copy of P6 I'll try it.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
> I think Sonic Foundry products (Sound Forge, DirectX Noise Reduction,
> etc.) are PC Windows products only. Sorry! DirectX Noise Reduction is
> a plugin for Sound Forge, not Premiere. I would guess there are
> equivalent software products for the Mac. I am not sure you will find
> an audio noise reduction plugin software product for FCP or even
> Premiere though. I am sure somebody on this list will point out if any
> are available, though.
>
> Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
> Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> .....Do they offer a plug in that works with FCP?
> Thanks,
> George W. Fisher
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:10:10 -0500
From: steve sanacore
To:
Subject: sound problem
Message-ID:
I am in post on a TV spot and have a few scenes where the actress was in a
room that was more lively. As such, there is much more reverb in her voice.
Has anyone had any success in using a filter to remove this extra
echo/reverb?
Thanks in advance.
Steve Sanacore
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:21:32 -0800
From: exile
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Rank: Amateur
Message-ID: <774528BA59C.AAA552B@mail1.21stcentury.net>
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Hi Lori & David Tango, you wrote on 2/11/2001 4:59:19 AM:
>At 12:37 AM 02/11/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>"wannabes," teachers and independent
>professinals on the list
>
>JHC, I am just a financial advisor who likes to make home movies. No
>wonder I feel so small.
:} I believe that means you're not allowed
to post because you can't possibly have
anything of value to say.
I'm not sure though.
{note smiley}
-------Phoenix-Boundary-07081998---
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:33:47 -0500
From: DPalomaki
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sound Forge
Message-ID: <3A86A2CB.78FC364B@cox.rr.com>
>I have increased the volume in a small section of an audio clip. So, of
>course, all of the background noise was increased also. Any way to get rid
>of it?
What kind of noise it is?
Can you do something with expansion/compression to increase the
desire sound level while leaving the noise floor behind?
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:47:01 -0500
From: Keith
To:
Subject: Re: Rank: Amateur
Message-ID:
On 2/11/01 7:59 AM, Lori & David Tango got kicked off a skyscraper and
screamed:
> JHC, I am just a financial advisor who likes to make home movies.
David, I expect to get a respectable tax return this year and wanted to
start planning for my retirement with some of the money. (I currently have
an annuity with NY Life and a 401k sitting around probably decaying as we
speak).
I was advised by an acquaintance to invest in a mutual fund which he said
would cost me no more than $2G. I was wondering what you'd suggest. And yes,
for consultation, I realize you probably charge a fee. If I can afford that
fee, perhaps you can help me make some intelligent plans for my retirement?
Keith
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:47:49 -0500
From: Keith
To:
Subject: Re: Rank: Amateur
Message-ID:
On 2/11/01 7:59 AM, Lori & David Tango got kicked off a skyscraper and
screamed:
> JHC, I am just a financial advisor who likes to make home movies. No
> wonder I feel so small.
Sorry folx. I feel juuuuuust a tad stupid here. I MEANT to send that
PRIVATELY. Sheesh.
Keith
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:21:44 -0500
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
Message-ID: <000201c09446$ba40bbc0$4423a8c0@dell420me>
>Sorry! DirectX Noise Reduction is
>a plugin for Sound Forge, not Premiere.
Premiere 6 support Direct X audio plugins - so it should work under 6.
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"It's only after you've lost everything
that you're free to do anything."
~Tyler~
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:33:24 -0500
From: "Bob S."
To:
Subject: Re: NOTAC: Embargoed topics "AGREED"!
Message-ID:
on 2/10/01 6:08 PM, Bertel Schmitt at bschmitt@panix.com wrote:
> Notice To All Correspondents:
>
> In the spirit of world peace, I'd say we give the following topics a rest:
>
> - Platform inadequacies (any)
> - Hams (edible or otherwise)
> - Music (unless pertaining to video sound tracks)
>
> I hope this appeal for civility will meet mutual approval.
>
> If not, we'll go back to the usual conventional drastic measures, made
> popular by ...
>
> BS. DV-L HAZMAT Control Team. You flame - we maim.
>
While not always in total agreement of BS's banishments, I'm fully in favor
of his current "hit" list. While I can usually be found in some part of an
OT discussion or even begin them, recently this list/forum has been going in
some strange directions, however popular they may be. Let's put video back
on the map. As soon as I am able, I have some new firewire questions to post
that hopefully will wake the dead if not give BS some DV meat to dig into.
Thanks BS! from another BS.
Bob S.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:39:05 -0500
From: steve sanacore
To:
Subject: up from DV?
Message-ID:
Hi all;
I am new to this list and I want to thank all of you who have been so
helpful with many of my video novice questions so far.
I like my Canon XL-1, but have found the major shortcoming is in dealing
with high contrast. I have been told that one of the reasons is because of
the small 1/3" ccd chips the camera uses for capturing the image.
I was wondering what camera can I move up to that will provide better
contrast control or a wider latitude of contrast, but will also keep the
film like qualities of the XL-1, e.i. frame mode.
Another requirement is being able to do all post production on my Mac. I
assume digital betacam is the way to go, but wondered if there were any
alternatives? What about the larger format DV cameras? Are they any better?
Do they all have IEEE 1394 interfaces?
Thank you, any info will be a great help.
Steve Sanacore
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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:43:15 -0800
From: "Jon DeMaria"
To:
Subject: RE: NOTAC: Embargoed topics "AGREED"!
Message-ID:
I'd like to give a speacial thank's out to the DV-L HAZMAT Control Team!
Keep up the good work.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:36:01 -0800
From: Thomas V McLoughlin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010211113601.006d27a8@pop.mindspring.com>
Hi,
I want to start a group here in NYC to learn and share ideas on the use
of Edit DV for the Mac. I'm working on a iMac and a PowerBook. There has to
be a better way then just looking at this Manual, and looking at this Edit
DV Video Tape. You can answer me direct, or here on the board.
Tom
tommack@mindspring.com
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:39:42 -0000
From: Perry Mitchell
To: "DV-L (E-mail)"
Subject: DV to BetaCam
Message-ID: <01C0944B.D785C4A0.perry.mitchell@btinternet.com>
DY posted:
>I'm using an Xl-1 and FinalCut to shoot and produce video. What
I need now is the least expensive way to get my finished commercials
from MiniDV to Beta (this seems to be what most cable stations
require).
Also, I need to do this inhouse, so going to a studio is not an
option.<
Obviously you need a Sony BetacamSP deck of some description. The
cheapest way to buy would be a second-hand recorder from the UVW range,
or possibly since you only need the small size cassettes (30min max) a
BVW-35 portable. An alternative would be to hire in a suitable deck for
a day.
The real questions are what you want to do with timecode and how good
quality you need the video transfer. If you want the timecode on your
Beta transmission master to be a particular value then life gets a lot
more complicated! Assuming you don't have a MiniDV deck with separate
timecode out, you would need to get an editing Beta machine that can
re-insert timecode. Also assuming you only have Y/C or composite video
out from your DV deck, then the video quality will lose a little, but
remember it is going to end up as composite signal anyway. Y/C is
perfectly satisfactory for most material and is available on the
industrial decks, but is not a standard interface on broadcast Beta
decks (BVW range) and would need an adapter.
There are many better ways to 'do the job properly' but you did say
"least expensive" and the quality is actually surprisingly good.
Perry Mitchell
Video Facilities
http://www.perrybits.co.uk
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:08:51 -0500
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Subject: RE: Now I'll be even grumpier.
Message-ID: <000701c0944d$4e3babe0$c955a818@nyc.rr.com>
> to build something new from
> the ashes of the old and from their own ideas rather than simply
> festering in those very same ashes or draining the remaining life
> from the still-quivering husks of music of the past.
Now I'll be even grumpier. I have a strong feeling that what's been done
in art -- has been done -- for the next century or two. I think
classical music reached it's peak in the 19th century.
And after watching Burns' Jazz series -- IMHO, Jazz peaked by the
mid-60s.
Rock was finished by the mid-70s.
Of course, folks still try to write classical or play Jazz -- but these
forms have been fully mined.
In frustration, musicians turn to "noise." (Cage is a perfect example in
classical.) They tear down because they can't build any better than
what's been done before. (I sympathize, but don't want hear listen to
their death wails.)
While it's true commercial forces limit what we can hear -- the NEW
music is simply the noise being made by those who's egos drive them to
want to be musicians -- but can't find any way to move past what their
elders have already created. (Their lack of education is certainly part
of the problem since schools stopped teaching by the mid-60's.) The
anger from their frustration is reflected in the noise they make and
most obviously in the names they give their groups. And in the case of
rap -- the frustration at being unable to create anything better than
what black artists did 50 years ago is revealed in the lyrics. (Blacks
were much poorer 50 years ago, but that did not cause them to write
violent lyrics.)
This is the age of technology not art. It too will run its course. Then
someone will think of something truly new to do with sound. And
something will come to flower. I doubt it will be "neo" anything. Likely
it will not be "western." It will be as revolutionary as Jazz
"appearing" in the USA from a group the establishment never thought
could create something.
But, I doubt very much if the Gen-X/Y will be that group. Nor the
"noise" they make will be that music.
But -- all this is WAY off-topic!
Although it does relate to Indie films currently being "marketed." And
it does relate very much to the attitude I found in my video classes. "I
don't want to learn the craft, I just want to be famous -- ASAP."
Best Regards,
Steve Mullen
Digital Video Consulting NYC
www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:55:56 -0500
From: "David Mowbray"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction
Message-ID: <3A868BDC.11992.AD7B01@localhost>
Hi Gang:
I just downloaded the trial version of the Sound Forge Noise
Reduction Plugin. Guess what? It now shows up as a Direct X
Audio Filter in Premiere 6. The only hassle is that there are no
instructions from Sonic Foundry for using the beast within Premiere
and all the selectors are greyed out (I have not yet installed my 7
day activation code).
Cheers
David Mowbray
=======================
Baobab Productions Inc.
http://www.baobab.net
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:57:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Tom T. Pauncz"
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:36:01 -0800, Thomas V McLoughlin wrote:
>Hi,
> I want to start a group here in NYC to learn and share ideas on the use
>of Edit DV for the Mac. I'm working on a iMac and a PowerBook. There has to
Tom,
Since there have been no takers to your posts over the last week or so, why not try the EditDV discussion list at
editdv@talk.digitalorigin.com. Maybe you'll have better luck there ... Now if you were in Toronto .....
Cheers,
Tom
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:18:55 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Now I'll be even grumpier < You are reading my mind.
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211131429.03b77510@popserver.panix.com>
At 12:08 PM 2/11/01 -0500, Steve wrote:
>But -- all this is WAY off-topic!
There is a thing called "Delete" which comes in handy when this thought
crosses your mind. We appreciate your thought, Steve. This one, Stve.
NOTAC messages escaped your attention?
Sorry, Sir. Just doing our job, Sir.
You can step back in your vehicle. Post carefully.
BS
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:50:25 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction
Message-ID: <3A86DEF1.4C87E941@maui.net>
I use it with Sound Forge 4.5. It's a great tool. The "clip restoration feature" is awesome!
Install your 7 day activation and it might work.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
David Mowbray wrote:
> Hi Gang:
>
> I just downloaded the trial version of the Sound Forge Noise
> Reduction Plugin. Guess what? It now shows up as a Direct X
> Audio Filter in Premiere 6. The only hassle is that there are no
> instructions from Sonic Foundry for using the beast within Premiere
> and all the selectors are greyed out (I have not yet installed my 7
> day activation code).
>
> Cheers
> David Mowbray
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:49:09 -0500
From: "David Mowbray"
To: Jon Burkhart , DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction
Message-ID: <3A869855.25363.DE347F@localhost>
Hi John:
> I use it with Sound Forge 4.5. It's a great tool. The "clip
> restoration feature" is awesome! Install your 7 day activation and it
> might work.
I now have installed the 7 day reg. It works well in Sound Forge 4.5
but in Premiere you don't get the full screen with preset selections
etc., and once you select "noiseprint' everything is greyed out
again. It does not seem to do anything in Premiere -- close but no
cigar. Mind you, using it in Sound Forge will be great.
Cheers
David
=======================
Baobab Productions Inc.
http://www.baobab.net
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:49:45 -0800
From: Charles F. McConathy
To:
Subject: Re: DV to BetaCam
Message-ID: <1010211104954.1785a78.3f774447.ASIP6.3.1.896452@mail.promax.com>
MiniDV Wrote
>I'm using an Xl-1 and FinalCut to shoot and produce video. What
>I need now is the least expensive way to get my finished commercials
>from MiniDV to Beta (this seems to be what most cable stations require).
>Also, I need to do this inhouse, so going to a studio is not an
>option.
>
>
>Thanks
Consider at DSR-40 - it has Component out with FireWire in/out. Much like
a DSR-20.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:56:35 -0800
From: Charles F. McConathy
To:
Subject: Re: up from DV?
Message-ID: <1010211105644.178badd.3f774447.ASIP6.3.1.896517@mail.promax.com>
steve sanacore Wrote
>Hi all;
>
>I am new to this list and I want to thank all of you who have been so
>helpful with many of my video novice questions so far.
>
>I like my Canon XL-1, but have found the major shortcoming is in dealing
>with high contrast. I have been told that one of the reasons is because of
>the small 1/3" ccd chips the camera uses for capturing the image.
>
>I was wondering what camera can I move up to that will provide better
>contrast control or a wider latitude of contrast, but will also keep the
>film like qualities of the XL-1, e.i. frame mode.
To my knowledge there is no lower cost camcorder other than the XL1 and
the GL1 that offer the moive or frame mode. The new Sony HDW-F900 will do
the job but these babies are not cheap. You are correct about the Canon
camcorders not handling contrast well. I find the new VX-2000, PD150, and
DSR-250 handles high contrast very well but they do not offer frame mode.
>
>Another requirement is being able to do all post production on my Mac. I
>assume digital betacam is the way to go, but wondered if there were any
>alternatives? What about the larger format DV cameras? Are they any better?
>Do they all have IEEE 1394 interfaces?
>
>Thank you, any info will be a great help.
>
>Steve Sanacore
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:59:54 -1100
From: "TJ Lavata'i"
To:
Subject: Re: Duelling Scanners
Message-ID: <005b01c0945c$d25287a0$674b4dc6@lavapro>
Bertel !!!!!
They're talking about sex again !!!!!
Sheesh - some people just can't stay on-topic.
:>)
TJ
| >I have a Minolta Diamge Scan Dual II
|
| If your Minolta mated with my HP we'd have a Hewlett Minolta Photo Diamge
| Dual S20 II Smart. Take the market by storm, I'll bet.
|
| -David Tango,
| Home Enthusiast
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:29:39 -0800
From: "John.Mortensen"
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: Avid CoDec
Message-ID:
I need the Avid Quicktime Codec Extension... Can someone e-mail it to me? or
know where I can download it from.
Thanks,
-john
mort@thinkatron.com
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:43:20 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: NOTAC: Embargoed topics "AGREED"!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211141516.04a698c0@popserver.panix.com>
At 11:33 AM 2/11/01 -0500, the other BS wrote:
>While not always in total agreement of BS's banishments, I'm fully in favor
>of his current "hit" list.
Let me explain. I don't care a flying act of affection what is being
discussed on this list and to what degree. I'm grown up enough to know that
a lively discussion tends to meander along and then it explodes around a
topic often totally removed from the initial one. This is what makes life
interesting.
Both Alexei and I do monitor the unsubscriptions and they tend to go off
the chart when a platform war erupts or when a totally unrelated topic
starts to hog the bandwidth. This is why we have zero tolerance for
platform wars.
And this is also why we let off-topics meander along, silently hoping that
one day they will find their way back to the reason why people subscribed
to this list. When people start to unsubscribe en-masse, or when sensitive
buttons inscribed with "Race" , "Religion", "Mac" or "Windows" are touched,
then we issue a warning.
By nature, this warning is a judgement call. This list has 3045 subscribers
(it had more a week ago). We do not expect that all subscribers do agree
with our judgement. But we humbly expect that they respect it. It's a tough
job, but if we won't do it, nobody else will.
All of the above has nothing to do with "banishment," by the way.
Banishment is when someone is thrown off the list because of gross
disregard for the few rules we have on this list.
BS.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:14:44 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Illegal Operation
Message-ID: <3A86F2B4.29D2BA9E@maui.net>
I had a similar strange experience. It turned out to be some sort of conflict between Director 6 software installed on the same computer as the one on which I was installing Premiere. It
had worked for a time but when I did an upgrade of a new NLE and reinstalled Premiere the problem began. Director 6 also has a "prf" extension and every time I tried to get Premiere
running the prem50.prf file would be identified as a Macromedia file.
My solution was a clean install of the OS, Premiere and NOT to install Director 6.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
Cliff Elliott wrote:
> Hi all, I am writing out of desperation as I have exhausted any idea's I
> have regarding the following problem that started last week.
>
> After starting Premiere, I will then load a saved project, during the
> loading of the project an illegal operation message appears with the
> following details.
>
> PREMIERE caused an invalid page fault in
> module KERNEL32.DLL at 016f:bff87edc.
> Registers:
> EAX=c002f8d0 CS=016f EIP=bff87edc EFLGS=00010206
> EBX=0064d4e4 SS=0177 ESP=00550000 EBP=00550088
> ECX=8172e964 DS=0177 ESI=8173b9e8 FS=3677
> EDX=bff76859 ES=0177 EDI=005500a0 GS=0000
> Bytes at CS:EIP:
> e8 ca 07 00 00 85 c0 74 08 ff 75 08 e8 19 e8 fe
> Stack dump:
> 00000001 00000006 005500a0 005500bc 00550264 8173b9e8 0064d4e4 00000000
> 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
>
> The first thing I did was to delete the Prem50.prf file and start Premiere
> again in its default layout, then loaded the project without any problem.
>
> I thought the problem had been solved, but the next day I started Premiere
> again and proceeded to load the project and guess what? the same illegal
> message.
>
> I have since repeated the delete of the Prem50.prf file a number of times
> with the same pattern of events repeating.
>
> I then did a search of both the Adobe and Pinnacle web sites for information
> regarding this problem and found a number of helpful files with one standing
> out as a possible solution.
>
> A tech solution file from the Pinnacle site suggests a possible conflict
> with the Prf file used by Adobe and an association for the same file type as
> used in Explorer 5, the following is what the document say's.
>
> Problems using Premiere in systems with Internet Explorer 5 installed.
>
> Solution
>
> Internet Explorer 5 installs a Pics Rules File that uses the .prf extension.
> This file can corrupt the Premiere preferences file and cause problems in
> Premiere. It is recommended that you remove this file association to avoid
> problems using Adobe Premiere. Go to Start/ Programs/ Windows Explorer Click
> on the VIEW option and select Folder Options Select the File Types tab then
> scroll down the list and locate the file with the .prf extension. Pics Rules
> file and remove it.
>
> So I followed the instructions but to no avail, I still have the same
> problem.
>
> I now humbly turn to this list among others for help, any one have any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards, Cliff Elliott.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:54:20 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To: "DV -L Organization"
Subject: A pet peeve of my own - Real and useful customer service lacking
Message-ID:
One of the things that amazes me, is how poorly software companies make
use of our registrations of their products. Wouldn't it be nice, for
instance, if company would automatically email information to all
registered owners when known problems became known, instead of expecting
everybody to ferret these things out on their own through constant
visits to their web site. And wouldn't it be even nicer, if they would
email registered owners work around solutions that are found for known
problems, automatically. It would seem to me that companies could also
save a lot of technical support time by doing business this way, instead
of answering and solving the same problems over and over, for each
customer that contacts them with the same problem. Companies sure know
how to email you with product offers and upgrade offers to get your
money, but why don't they email us the information that is REALLY useful
to us, their customer base??? What am I missing here???
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:54:22 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Subject: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal Operation)
Message-ID:
I am not sure I understand how having some other program like Director 6
or Internet Explorer using the "prf" extension for some of their files
would cause any problems for Premiere??? It seems very unlikely that
any program other than Premiere would ever open the Prem50.prf file, let
alone modify it. What am I missing here???
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
-----Original Messages-----
.....Director 6 also has a "prf" extension and every time I tried to get
Premiere
running the prem50.prf file would be identified as a Macromedia
file......
.....Internet Explorer 5 installs a Pics Rules File that uses the .prf
extension.
This file can corrupt the Premiere preferences file and cause problems
in
Premiere. It is recommended that you remove this file association to
avoid
problems using Adobe Premiere.....
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:57:17 -0500
From: Atlantic Productions
To:
Subject: Re: Avid CoDec
Message-ID:
Mac or PC?
on 2/11/01 2:29 PM, John.Mortensen at john.mortensen@thinkatron.com wrote:
> I need the Avid Quicktime Codec Extension... Can someone e-mail it to me? or
> know where I can download it from.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -john
> mort@thinkatron.com
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:29:51 -0700
From: TM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: A pet peeve of my own - Real and useful customer service lacking
Message-ID: <3A86F63C.B5B@netidea.com>
Not much. Except, "but, ahem..., ah folks,
ah we haven't quite, um, figured out yet,
dare we say it, how to run a company from something,
but, well you know, other than c o n c e r n
for our own, . . . . . . . N E e e e d s.
We're just not set up that way! And our latest poll suggests
that our customers prefer to see more . . . . yadda, yadda, yadda,
and of course first quarter earnings. . . ..."
Sad but true for most larger corporate structures.
Gosh, a Sunday off and time to, ahem, write...:)
Patrick Chudleigh
Richard H. Heeren wrote:
>
> One of the things that amazes me, is how poorly software companies make
> use of our registrations of their products. Wouldn't it be nice, for
> instance, if company would automatically email information to all
> registered owners when known problems became known, instead of expecting
> everybody to ferret these things out on their own through constant
> visits to their web site. And wouldn't it be even nicer, if they would
> email registered owners work around solutions that are found for known
> problems, automatically. It would seem to me that companies could also
> save a lot of technical support time by doing business this way, instead
> of answering and solving the same problems over and over, for each
> customer that contacts them with the same problem. Companies sure know
> how to email you with product offers and upgrade offers to get your
> money, but why don't they email us the information that is REALLY useful
> to us, their customer base??? What am I missing here???
>
> Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
> Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:37:00 -0800
From: Thomas V McLoughlin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010211163700.006c8cc4@pop.mindspring.com>
Tom,
I have tried there and no one was interested.
Tom
At 12:57 PM 2/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:36:01 -0800, Thomas V McLoughlin wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>> I want to start a group here in NYC to learn and share ideas on the use
>>of Edit DV for the Mac. I'm working on a iMac and a PowerBook. There has to
>
>Tom,
>Since there have been no takers to your posts over the last week or so,
why not try the EditDV discussion list at
>editdv@talk.digitalorigin.com. Maybe you'll have better luck there ...
Now if you were in Toronto .....
>Cheers,
>Tom
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:47:55 +1100
From: "Denni Schutt"
To:
Subject: Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
Message-ID: <009f01c09474$4a7b84e0$05a8a8c0@router>
Is there an echo in here?
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:44:36 -0800
From: "Thomas V McLoughlin"
To:
Subject: Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
Message-ID: <001401c0948c$fa861f40$a331f7a5@tom>
????? I got this E mail in OUTLOOK I never use OUTLOOK _______ LOL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denni Schutt"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: NYC-Help eachother with Edit DV on Mac
> Is there an echo in here?
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:57:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV to BetaCam
Message-ID: <20010211215731.23764.qmail@web4005.mail.yahoo.com>
It's simple to do in house, assuming you have a
BetacamSP deck. I do it practically every day.
Component out of the DVCAM deck to component in on the
Betacam deck.
But, unless you're seriously in the business, it might
be cheaper to go to a dub house.
--- MiniDV wrote:
> I'm using an Xl-1 and FinalCut to shoot and produce
> video. What
> I need now is the least expensive way to get my
> finished commercials
> from MiniDV to Beta (this seems to be what most
> cable stations require).
> Also, I need to do this inhouse, so going to a
> studio is not an
> option.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> DY
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:09:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: up from DV?
Message-ID: <20010211220950.21719.qmail@web4001.mail.yahoo.com>
The best look you can get with DV will come from a
DSR500, or the dockable version, the DXC35, both 2/3"
chip cameras with much better latitude than cheaper
models. The DSR300 with 1/2" chips would be a good
second and is considerably cheaper (ie., about $10,000
with a useable lens and power). Ikegami also has a
nice DVCAM version now too, about the same price as
the equivalent Sonys.
You mentioned Digital Betacam...yep, very nice, and
you can get the camera and a respectable lens for
around $50,000, and a deck would cost you about that
much too.
However, most of your problem might be in your
lighting. I have a colleague who completed a comedy
short feature last year, all shot with an XL1. The
show was beautiful, and he had all kinds of lighting
situations with wide contrast ranges. I've also used
exterior footage shot with an XL1 on bright sunny days
with no problems...we used HMI's, reflectors and
promist filters just like we'd do with any other
camera and it all looked great.
Please don't take this as a putdown, but if I may
paraphrase that '80's bumper sticker you used to see
on the backs of rusty pickup trucks in the midwest and
south: Cameras don't shoot movies, people do.
--- steve sanacore wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> I am new to this list and I want to thank all of you
> who have been so
> helpful with many of my video novice questions so
> far.
>
> I like my Canon XL-1, but have found the major
> shortcoming is in dealing
> with high contrast. I have been told that one of the
> reasons is because of
> the small 1/3" ccd chips the camera uses for
> capturing the image.
>
> I was wondering what camera can I move up to that
> will provide better
> contrast control or a wider latitude of contrast,
> but will also keep the
> film like qualities of the XL-1, e.i. frame mode.
>
> Another requirement is being able to do all post
> production on my Mac. I
> assume digital betacam is the way to go, but
> wondered if there were any
> alternatives? What about the larger format DV
> cameras? Are they any better?
> Do they all have IEEE 1394 interfaces?
>
> Thank you, any info will be a great help.
>
> Steve Sanacore
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:33:26 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: NOTAC: Embargoed topics
Message-ID: <3A871336.9C260650@maui.net>
Yes, please. And my delete key salutes you! Except when it comes to. . . .;^)
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
Bertel Schmitt wrote:
> Notice To All Correspondents:
>
> In the spirit of world peace, I'd say we give the following topics a rest:
>
> - Platform inadequacies (any)
> - Hams (edible or otherwise)
> - Music (unless pertaining to video sound tracks)
>
> I hope this appeal for civility will meet mutual approval.
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:36:40 -0800
From: "Robert C. Fisher"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: up from DV?
Message-ID: <3A8713F8.571E4491@pacbell.net>
steve sanacore wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> I am new to this list and I want to thank all of you who have been so
> helpful with many of my video novice questions so far.
>
> I like my Canon XL-1, but have found the major shortcoming is in dealing
> with high contrast. I have been told that one of the reasons is because of
> the small 1/3" ccd chips the camera uses for capturing the image.
>
> I was wondering what camera can I move up to that will provide better
> contrast control or a wider latitude of contrast, but will also keep the
> film like qualities of the XL-1, e.i. frame mode.
>
> Another requirement is being able to do all post production on my Mac. I
> assume digital betacam is the way to go, but wondered if there were any
> alternatives? What about the larger format DV cameras? Are they any better?
> Do they all have IEEE 1394 interfaces?
>
> Thank you, any info will be a great help.
>
> Steve Sanacore
>
One camera that would be a vast improvment in image quality and contrast is the JVC DV500. This camera is vastly superior to the XL-1 and not too much more money. Things it doesn't have
are frame mode and image stabilization. thisgs you do get are larger CCD's 10bit DSP's(very adjustable image quality), good audio preamps, and very sharp images(this can be manipulated for
just about any effect). The interchangable lenses are a plus, you can use lens extenders, Nikon lenses, and other lenses for efrfect. The image quality is just a notch below the Sony
DSR-300 but the DSR300 is beat on cost to performance. The DSR500W is the next best thing to Digi Beta without spending $100,000, which is what would happen if you go this way and it is
DVCAM so you can edit without extra hardware on a Mac(this is a DV25 formate). If you really havve to go the DigiBeta way try this, DVW707(this is the low end DigiBeta Camera) Camera
$40,000 plus lens, DigiBeta Deck $40,000, Uncompressed editing hardware for the Mac $5-10,000, Storage $10-20,000 plus the standard ystem costs of around $4-5,000.
Next cheapest route would be JVC D-9(while keeping the improvments in tape format that DigiBeta offers) but the camera and deck would still cost only 1/2 to 1/3 of the Sony equipment the
uncompressed Mac editing costs would remain about the same. You could possibly put together a camera(DY-70) and deck for the $20-25,000 range though but I would spend a little more and get
the better JVC camera(DY-90W@$25,000) this would come in at $30-40,000 range.
Going with the DV500 the camera is about $5,000, a good DV deck is around $3,000, the other stuff you need would include tripod and head, batteries, monitors, lights and other stuff. The
DV500 offers the most image improvment for the dollar whle keeping most of your present investment. If you really need the frame mode thing this can be added in post via CineLook and other
post processing software but time better spent would be to improve the overall image and learn really good lighting and be creative with camera angles and composition. Video is not film
but you can still make awsome images in either form by useing the strengths and weaknesses of each to you advantage.
Cheers
Bob Fisher
FishPond Digital
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:41:50 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: NOTAC: Embargoed topics
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211173958.02f0a730@popserver.panix.com>
At 12:33 PM 2/11/01 -1000, Jon wrote:
>Except when it comes to. . . .;^)
You mean the !...! topic? Haven't seen that on any list of embargoed items.
BS
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:26:40 +1000
From: "Eric S."
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
Message-ID:
>I think Sonic Foundry products (Sound Forge, DirectX Noise Reduction,
>etc.) are PC Windows products only. Sorry! DirectX Noise Reduction is
>a plugin for Sound Forge, not Premiere. I would guess there are
>equivalent software products for the Mac. I am not sure you will find
>an audio noise reduction plugin software product for FCP or even
>Premiere though. I am sure somebody on this list will point out if any
>are available, though.
>
G'day George and Richard,
Premier will call on 'Cool Edit' (Syntrillium) if so ordered, which almost makes it a plug-in.
Cool Edit has almost all the audio tweaks and adjustments of Sound Forge (although I have no way of comparing the results of the two). Cool Edit is also available in a (very reasonably priced 'lite' version).
Richard,
I find that noise reduction capability is limited, before wierd artifacting is introduced, even for very specific noise like a mains hummmmmm.
Is there a particular technique that you have found particularly useful ?
For example, reduce noise before normalising, reduce noise in several small steps rather than one big one, sleep in a anechoic chamber etc ?
eric from oz
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:01:27 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal Operation)
Message-ID: <3A8719C7.44491127@maui.net>
"Richard H. Heeren" wrote:
> I am not sure I understand how having some other program like Director 6
> or Internet Explorer using the "prf" extension for some of their files
> would cause any problems for Premiere??? It seems very unlikely that
> any program other than Premiere would ever open the Prem50.prf file, let
> alone modify it. What am I missing here???
>
Beats me! I would load Premiere 5.1c and it would work fine. I would then load my NLE software (Canopus Storm Edit) and it would work fine. I would then then load Premiere and try to
load the Canopus plugins and Premiere would freeze up. With Windows Explorer I would look at my prem50.prf file and it would then be identified as a Macromedia file. I would not believe
it if I had not seen it myself.
All this was under NT 4, by the way. I've since changed OS to Win2K.
When you can explain this Richard, please do get back to me.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:00:47 -0500
From: "David Mowbray"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: DV Converter 2.1 now avaialbe for download
Message-ID: <3A86D34F.25748.1C49EE8@localhost>
Hi all:
I have just uploaded an updated version of DV Converter to our web-
site.
Version 2.1 fixes a couple of bugs and is primarily a maintenance
release. It now recognizes the 'dsvd' codec identifier that Premiere
6/Microsoft sometimes use. That makes DV Converter even more
useful for mixed DV editing environments.
We have also added a couple of convenience features, including a
new button on the button bar for automatic timecode extraction
(part of our hi-rez-low-rez dv editing scheme).
DV Converter DOES NOT (forgive the shouting caps) convert
between Type2 and Type1 avi's. I mention it here because the
number of emails and telephone calls I get from people who have
tried to convert Type 1 files and are angry at me when it doesn't
work is quite amazing.
You can learn more about DV Converter and our 30day free trial
version from our web-site:
http://www.baobab.net/softcs.htm
is our general software information page.
http://www.baobab.net/features.htm
is a full list of DV Converter features.
http://www.baobab.net/dvconv.htm
is the download page.
DV Converter can be registered on-line for $50US. The trial version
is fully functional for 30 days with the exception of multiple file
processing.
Cheers
David Mowbray
=======================
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http://www.baobab.net
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:12:11 EST
From: Strothman@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Swapping audio in FCP
Message-ID:
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm having trouble swaping my captured channel two audio to the left channel
in FCP. I go to the ch 2 audio tab in the viewer, click on Ch2 and pan the
spread slider to the left, target channel two on my audio track in the
timeline then drag clip from viewer to the canvas. When I listen to the clip
in the timeline, the ch2 audio is not there on the left channel. What am I
doing wrong?
Thanks,
Bill Strothman
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm having trouble swaping my captured channel two audio to the left channel
in FCP. I go to the ch 2 audio tab in the viewer, click on Ch2 and pan the
spread slider to the left, target channel two on my audio track in the
timeline then drag clip from viewer to the canvas. When I listen to the clip
in the timeline, the ch2 audio is not there on the left channel. What am I
doing wrong?
Thanks,
Bill Strothman
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:14:21 -0500
From: "David Mowbray"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Converter 2.1 now avaialbe for download
Message-ID: <3A86D67D.21734.1D1086C@localhost>
Oops... an embarrassing error in one of my own url's
> http://www.baobab.net/features.htm
should be
http://www.baobab.net/dvfeatures.htm
Cheers
David Mowbray
=======================
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http://www.baobab.net
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:16:25 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Converter 2.1 now avaialbe for download
Message-ID: <200102112316.RAA00605@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>is our general software information page.
>
>http://www.baobab.net/features.htm
... does not exist.
MB
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:17:48 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Converter 2.1 now avaialbe for download
Message-ID: <200102112317.RAA00624@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>Oops... an embarrassing error in one of my own url's
>
>> http://www.baobab.net/features.htm
>
>should be
>
>http://www.baobab.net/dvfeatures.htm
Figures, the original posting and the fix posting ended up across page
boundaries in my mail reader :-)
MB
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:27:11 EST
From: Strothman@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: audio swapping never mind
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
i figured it out, thanks anyway
Bill
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Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
i figured it out, thanks anyway
Bill
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:23:10 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal
Operation)
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211175855.0387a860@popserver.panix.com>
At 01:01 PM 2/11/01 -1000, you wrote:
>With Windows Explorer I would look at my prem50.prf file and it would then
>be identified as a Macromedia file.
There is no mystery to this. If you install an application and that
application insists on registering a file extension as its own, then it
officially "owns" this extension and the app will be used to open a file
with that extension if you click on the file. If the application disregards
common precautions, it may even attempt to "process" that file. And if the
app is really boneheaded, it will look at any file with that extension as
one of its own and will eat it.
A discussion about platform inadequacies could definitely be in order at
this point, but in the interest of peace & understanding, this discussion
is discouraged. (Just to pre-empt the point: A four-character creator code,
combined with a four-character owner code definitely result in more choices
than a three-character files extension. Especially if the four-character
codes must be registered with the Owner & Creator Police. Point made. Case
closed.)
BS
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:38:09 -0500
From: "Don Mitchell"
To:
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal Operation)
Message-ID: <001b01c09483$b12da880$0164640a@zeus>
> Beats me! I would load Premiere 5.1c and it would work fine. I would
then load my NLE software (Canopus Storm Edit) and it would work fine. I
would then then load Premiere and try to
> load the Canopus plugins and Premiere would freeze up. With Windows
Explorer I would look at my prem50.prf file and it would then be identified
as a Macromedia file. I would not believe
> it if I had not seen it myself.
> All this was under NT 4, by the way. I've since changed OS to Win2K.
>
> When you can explain this Richard, please do get back to me.
>
> Aloha,
> Jon Burkhart
Jon:
I'm not an accomplished enough Premiere user to help you with your
problem, but I think your Windows problem is a straightforward one. NT and
W2K have their own ideas about what files are and what application owns
them -- this is because of the file extensions.
Two examples. I have an associate who sends me ASCII data files but
uses the extension .CDA. I can't open them by double-clicking until I
change the file name to .TXT (or .DAT) because Windows Media Player thinks
that they're CD music files and insists on opening them. Similarly, in my
(non-DV) computing life I have many files with .ARC extensions (they come
over from an OpenVMS system (anybody want to talk about needing to reboot
once a year or so in a bad year?)) but when they arrive on the PC W2K thinks
they're Winzip files, and so does WinZip. If I click on one, Winzip tries
to open it.
Windows Explorer on my W2K system says that PREM60.PRF is a "PICSRules
file," whatever that may be.
So I wouldn't worry about what Explorer thinks the file is. If you want
to know, though, you can user REGEDIT and examine the list of file
extensions under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT. On my W2K machine, .PRF extensions
default to "prffile," whatever that is, and secondarily to content-type
"applications/pics-rules." I'm sure I don't have to tell you to use REGEDIT
with care.
Perhaps a safer way is to use the Folder options in Control Panel and
then examine the registered file types there.
I think the point is that it doesn't really matter what Windows Explorer
think a file "is," so long as only the appropriate application tries to
access it.
Good luck.
Don Mitchell
(Hilo High School 1960)
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:14:50 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Message-ID: <3A872AFA.BAAA047A@maui.net>
Bertel Schmitt wrote:
> At 01:01 PM 2/11/01 -1000, you wrote:
>
> >With Windows Explorer I would look at my prem50.prf file and it would then
> >be identified as a Macromedia file.
>
> There is no mystery to this. If you install an application and that
> application insists on registering a file extension as its own, then it
> officially "owns" this extension and the app will be used to open a file
> with that extension if you click on the file. If the application disregards
> common precautions, it may even attempt to "process" that file. And if the
> app is really boneheaded, it will look at any file with that extension as
> one of its own and will eat it.
>
Thanks, Bertel. I now have much greater insight into the problem. Though the case is closed, may I ask a follow up question? Can I safely assume it would be foolish to put Director 6 and
Premiere on the same PC?
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:43:02 -0600
From: "Scott Sanders"
To:
Subject: QT5 codec with DVRaptor?
Message-ID:
I was messing around with the DV codec in QT5 while waiting for my Premiere
6 to show up. Gotta question. Can someone compress an movie or avi with
the QT5 codec and have it play out of the DVRaptor? The Raptor's utilities
will only work with AVI files. Will Premiere 6 push out DV from a MOV file?
Even compressed with the QT5 DV codec? Anyone know?
Thanks,
Scott
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:01:23 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211191658.03873390@popserver.panix.com>
At 02:14 PM 2/11/01 -1000, Jon wrote:
>Can I safely assume it would be foolish to put Director 6 and
>Premiere on the same PC?
According to the evidence presented, the assumption may be a valid one.
Considering the fact that Randy Ubillos spent several years at Macromedia
after having fathered Premiere at Adobe and before fathering FCP at AAPL
adds a further twist to the puzzle. But I don't believe in conspiracy
theories, and Randy never cared much about the Windows side of Premiere anyway.
BS
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:25:38 -0600
From: "Marc C. Hood, EdD"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Message-ID: <3A873B92.BC34D826@adent.com>
Keep it up and you're gonna have to check yourself into Purgatory-L :-)
Also, thanks for the tip. When I get the opportunity to load Director 6 on my laptop, I'll know to pass. I'm now wondering what I should tell the faculty at the multimedia lab; they've
ordered educational copies of Premiere 6 and Director 6 and plan on putting them both on 20 PCs. My only recommendation has been OHCI Firewire cards for everyone.
mhood
Bertel Schmitt wrote:
> At 02:14 PM 2/11/01 -1000, Jon wrote:
> >Can I safely assume it would be foolish to put Director 6 and
> >Premiere on the same PC?
>
> According to the evidence presented, the assumption may be a valid one.
>
> Considering the fact that Randy Ubillos spent several years at Macromedia
> after having fathered Premiere at Adobe and before fathering FCP at AAPL
> adds a further twist to the puzzle. But I don't believe in conspiracy
> theories, and Randy never cared much about the Windows side of Premiere anyway.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:33:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Charos
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Rank: Amateur
Message-ID: <20010212013302.33909.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com>
Although the word 'rank' is somewhat judgemental, I
would like to say I am an amateur. I would say this
list can be very "spirited" at times......
But.
Ultimately, everyone on this list is here because they
love television, in all its forms.
Thanks, contributors to this list.
- Bill Carpenter
Athena Productions
--- Keith wrote:
> On 2/11/01 7:59 AM, Lori & David Tango got kicked
> off a skyscraper and
> screamed:
>
> > JHC, I am just a financial advisor who likes to
> make home movies. No
> > wonder I feel so small.
>
> Sorry folx. I feel juuuuuust a tad stupid here. I
> MEANT to send that
> PRIVATELY. Sheesh.
>
> Keith
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:35:38 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211203250.02f51ec0@popserver.panix.com>
At 07:25 PM 2/11/01 -0600, mhood wrote:
>Keep it up and you're gonna have to check yourself into Purgatory-L :-)
Ooops, sorry. No inferiority of platforms implied, just a little talk about
ye old tymey stuff ...
BS
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:37:45 -0600
From: henry czuprinski
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Where's the new Panasonic dvcam/ DVC200??
Message-ID:
Antbody heard or seen anything on this recently?? Looks pretty good-
any day now? A real contender or what? Could this be the one to take
the crown from the JVC? All specs so far seem to be "preliminary".
The XL1 uses "panasonic" ccds. Might there be a similarity in image
look. suppose? Could this be our dream XL2? For about the same street
price as an XL1 with man lens& bw viewfinder? Hmmm?
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:40:26 -0800
From: Ned Barber
To: DVL
Subject: Video Man Gone Bad
Message-ID: <3A87774A.E649FAA2@bellatlantic.net>
Well,
I just wanted all of you to know what happens when a good upstanding
video producer goes over to the dark side and becomes a dot.com.....
Take a look at http://www.pascackvalleybiz.com - the monster creation
that has been eating all my time. I don't even have time to read DV-L
any more!
Ned Barber
Performance Video...now pascackvalleybiz.com (sigh)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:47:20 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Message-ID: <3A874EB8.BBF66D73@maui.net>
Wait Marc. Premiere 5.1c ran fine until I tried to use the Canopus Storm plugins in it. If it would have been OK with other plugins and Director 6, who knows? Premiere 6 may not be an
issue. Canopus Storm or NT 4 might have been an issue along with Director 6.
Be sure to let us know how your multimedia lab install goes. OS gonna be Win2K?
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
"Marc C. Hood, EdD" wrote:
> Keep it up and you're gonna have to check yourself into Purgatory-L :-)
>
> Also, thanks for the tip. When I get the opportunity to load Director 6 on my laptop, I'll know to pass. I'm now wondering what I should tell the faculty at the multimedia lab; they've
> ordered educational copies of Premiere 6 and Director 6 and plan on putting them both on 20 PCs. My only recommendation has been OHCI Firewire cards for everyone.
>
> mhood
>
> Bertel Schmitt wrote:
>
> > At 02:14 PM 2/11/01 -1000, Jon wrote:
> > >Can I safely assume it would be foolish to put Director 6 and
> > >Premiere on the same PC?
> >
> > According to the evidence presented, the assumption may be a valid one.
> >
> > Considering the fact that Randy Ubillos spent several years at Macromedia
> > after having fathered Premiere at Adobe and before fathering FCP at AAPL
> > adds a further twist to the puzzle. But I don't believe in conspiracy
> > theories, and Randy never cared much about the Windows side of Premiere anyway.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:02:41 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Where's the new Panasonic dvcam/ DVC200??
Message-ID: <3A875251.42135383@maui.net>
Jan had a DVC200 here on Maui this past week. They were here for the WEVA meeting. She also dropped by Maui Community College to show it off. Great camera. Got more menu settings than
you could POSSIBLY want. Great b&w viewfinder. It's got all the stuff to give Sony's 250 and JVC's 500 a real run for the money. Records DV up to 4+ hours on their new cassettes. (Same
size as the regular Sony DVCAM cassette. Not sure of the price but I'm sure it's around what you would pay for either of the other two cameras. Really above the market level of the XL1.
With a little coaxing I'm sure Jan will be along shortly with much more information. (Or did she pay you, Henry to ask this question in the first place? ;^) Now, we KNOW we'll be hearing
from her.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
henry czuprinski wrote:
> Antbody heard or seen anything on this recently?? Looks pretty good-
> any day now? A real contender or what? Could this be the one to take
> the crown from the JVC? All specs so far seem to be "preliminary".
> The XL1 uses "panasonic" ccds. Might there be a similarity in image
> look. suppose? Could this be our dream XL2? For about the same street
> price as an XL1 with man lens& bw viewfinder? Hmmm?
>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:56:44 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Video Man Gone Bad in Pascack Valley
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211215215.04ec8640@popserver.panix.com>
At 09:40 PM 2/11/01 -0800, Ned wrote:
>Take a look at http://www.pascackvalleybiz.com - the monster creation
>that has been eating all my time. I don't even have time to read DV-L
>any more!
You are the hero of Pascack Valley, Ned!
BS
PS: Private question, probably often asked: Have the residents of Pascack
Valley ever thought of changing the name? Or do they simply say "Heck,
we're Pascack and proud of it!"
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:01:46 -0500
From: "Bob S."
To:
Subject: Re: DV Converter 2.1 - What Platform?
Message-ID:
on 2/11/01 6:00 PM, David Mowbray at dmowbray@baobab.net wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> I have just uploaded an updated version of DV Converter to our web-
> site.
>
> Version 2.1 fixes a couple of bugs and is primarily a maintenance
> release. It now recognizes the 'dsvd' codec identifier that Premiere
> 6/Microsoft sometimes use. That makes DV Converter even more
> useful for mixed DV editing environments.
Dave,
Not to pick on you, just expressing a wish here, others might read, please
try and be "platform" specific with hardware and software announcements. I
read DV Convertor and cruise to the site to find this:
This Windows 95/98/NT/2000 utility is designed to...........
Sounds great, but I'm using a Mac. No big deal, except since this happens
all the time not only here but all over the Internet, one can see how it can
add up to be a time waster. I was glad the platform was listed near the top
of the page, you should see some web sites were you have to go four pages
deep to find out what OS's a program can run on, that is really killer bad.
Anyway good luck with the program, let us all know when and if it gets
ported to the Mac OS. Thanks, hope everyone understands why I felt compelled
to write.
Bob S.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:14:04 -0500 (EST)
From: john markert
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Video Man Gone Bad in Pascack Valley
Message-ID: <386887648.981947644681.JavaMail.root@web129-mc>
"Pascack" - old Indian name for "suburb of big ugly city with foul air and
paranoid natives"
------Original Message------
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Sent: February 12, 2001 2:56:44 AM GMT
Subject: Re: Video Man Gone Bad in Pascack Valley
At 09:40 PM 2/11/01 -0800, Ned wrote:
>Take a look at http://www.pascackvalleybiz.com - the monster creation
>that has been eating all my time. I don't even have time to read DV-L
>any more!
You are the hero of Pascack Valley, Ned!
BS
PS: Private question, probably often asked: Have the residents of Pascack
Valley ever thought of changing the name? Or do they simply say "Heck,
we're Pascack and proud of it!"
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:17:00 -0500 (EST)
From: john markert
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Where's the new Panasonic dvcam/ DVC200??
Message-ID: <383619567.981947820568.JavaMail.root@web597-mc>
When it comes to DV, Pannie has been shooting itself in the foot for about
three years, perhaps until now with the 200.
------Original Message------
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Sent: February 12, 2001 3:02:41 AM GMT
Subject: Re: Where's the new Panasonic dvcam/ DVC200??
Jan had a DVC200 here on Maui this past week. They were here for the WEVA
meeting. She also dropped by Maui Community College to show it off. Great
camera. Got more menu settings than
you could POSSIBLY want. Great b&w viewfinder. It's got all the stuff to
give Sony's 250 and JVC's 500 a real run for the money. Records DV up to 4+
hours on their new cassettes. (Same
size as the regular Sony DVCAM cassette. Not sure of the price but I'm sure
it's around what you would pay for either of the other two cameras. Really
above the market level of the XL1.
With a little coaxing I'm sure Jan will be along shortly with much more
information. (Or did she pay you, Henry to ask this question in the first
place? ;^) Now, we KNOW we'll be hearing
from her.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
henry czuprinski wrote:
> Antbody heard or seen anything on this recently?? Looks pretty good-
> any day now? A real contender or what? Could this be the one to take
> the crown from the JVC? All specs so far seem to be "preliminary".
> The XL1 uses "panasonic" ccds. Might there be a similarity in image
> look. suppose? Could this be our dream XL2? For about the same street
> price as an XL1 with man lens& bw viewfinder? Hmmm?
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:34:57 -0600 (CST)
From: "Kyle Y. Root"
To: DVL
Subject: Sennheiser ME66/K6... got it.
Message-ID:
I finally ordered a shotgun mic for my GL1. After much debate and
research, I decided to get a Sennheiser ME66/K6 Combo. In addition that, I
got the MZS-cam shockmount, K6C carrying case, and windscreen. I also got
the Studio 1 XLR adapter.
I ordered all of it on Wednesday and it came in on Friday, which was nice,
because on Thursday I got a phone call to help shoot at a local radio
station's 1 year anniversary/birthday party (which featured Kenny Wayne
Sheppard and Double Trouble as the headline performers).
I spent most of Fri night and this morning experimenting with my new toys
on my GL1. I had absolutely no trouble hooking everything up. All I can
say is WOW. That mic sounds so much better than the standard mic that
comes on the GL1.
So I take it to this thing tonight, and we're running a 3 camera crew
shoot. We've got 2 cams mounted back in the area with the audio crew. One
is running a constant wide angle shot of the stage, and also is plugged
directly into the house PA. Mine is back there as well using the shotgun
mic, and I'm doing close-ups and pans. we're about 400 feet from the
stage. That 20x optical zoom came in super duper handy for getting
close-ups of the band during the performance. The third cam was down in
the front, in the 'pit' in front of the stage.
I'm sitting here now, listening to the audio I captured tonight, and it is
spectacular. It's very clear and just sounds fantastic. I am very pleased
with my purchase, and also very glad that the folks at bhphotovideo.com
and studio1productions.com were quick with the shipping.
I'll have to say, I was a little concerned when the box arrived, because
it was so big, and so light. I thought they might have forgotten to pack
something, but that mic is sooooo light. I had no idea it was going to be
as light as it is.
Well that's about it. I love the mic.
Kyle
www.lookmomvideos.com
www.virtualkyle.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:29:35 -0600
From: "Marc C. Hood, EdD"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: IllegalOperation)
Message-ID: <3A87589F.6485D432@adent.com>
Okay...I'll keep quite and see how it goes...at least it won't be my fault...I didn't install anything. What's the recommendation on a bullet proof OHCI PCI Firewire card that will go into
anything for less than $35US ;-)
And yes, Jon, they are loading fresh installs of Win2K on each machine. Any issues or gotchas I can tell them about?
mhood
Jon Burkhart wrote:
> Wait Marc. Premiere 5.1c ran fine until I tried to use the Canopus Storm plugins in it. If it would have been OK with other plugins and Director 6, who knows? Premiere 6 may not be an
> issue. Canopus Storm or NT 4 might have been an issue along with Director 6.
>
> Be sure to let us know how your multimedia lab install goes. OS gonna be Win2K?
>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:32:45 -0800
From: Adobe Dynamic Media Group
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Apple : Please integrate iMovie and FCP
Message-ID:
rolf,
i'm not yet familiar with your software. does it take an edl then
convert it to NLE project files? could you do this to create
premiere projects?
p5 and p6 do not import edl, but there is a demand for this. what is
needed is a software that would convert an EDL to a premiere project
file. is that something your software could do?
...bruce
At 8:20 PM +0100 on 2/5/01, Rolf Howarth wrote:
>At 0:30 -0800 5/2/01, Nissan wrote:
>>
>>Most software companys integrate their software .
>>
>>Why not Apple enable users to Start a work in iMovie
>>And finish them on Final Cut Pro ???
>>
>>Currently two things are missing :
>>1. No timecode on the dvstream files iMovie uses for the media.
>>2. No way to export TimeLine/EDL/BatchList from iMovie to FCP and back.
>>
>>With Apple software you expect FCP to be able to import iMovie projects ,
>>but no can do.
>
>That's not a scenario we specifically address but CatDV
>(http://www.catdv.com) might be able to help. Certainly it can
>generate an FCP batch list from a bunch of DV files, even if they're
>missing a timecode track. Being able to import an iMovie project
>isn't something we currently do but I guess wouldn't be too
>difficult to add in a future release, if there was sufficient demand.
>
>Regards,
>
>-Rolf
>--
>Rolf Howarth, Square Box Systems Ltd, Stratford-upon-Avon UK.
>
>CatDV 1.5 - Power tools for logging and cataloguing digital video
>The essential tool for video editors, available at http://www.catdv.com
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:46:18 -0500
From: steve sanacore
To:
Subject: Re: up from DV?
Message-ID:
Bill;
No problem with the light. That's exactly what I did on a commercial I shot
last week. Three ton package and a great gaffer, for a small house. Worked
great. I am good at lighting so it was great and very rewarding to see the
video. My video AC, was very impressed with the XL-1 images on the
monitors, he never saw XL-1 images look that good. My worry was with another
project I am thinking about that will be more like a documentary shoot with
lots of outdoor locations in bright sun. I think I will just plan on lots of
shiny boards and more tests before I give up on the Canon. I really love
everything else about that camera.
Thanks
Steve Sanacore
> From: Bill
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:09:50 -0800 (PST)
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: up from DV?
>
> The best look you can get with DV will come from a
> DSR500, or the dockable version, the DXC35, both 2/3"
> chip cameras with much better latitude than cheaper
> models. The DSR300 with 1/2" chips would be a good
> second and is considerably cheaper (ie., about $10,000
> with a useable lens and power). Ikegami also has a
> nice DVCAM version now too, about the same price as
> the equivalent Sonys.
>
> You mentioned Digital Betacam...yep, very nice, and
> you can get the camera and a respectable lens for
> around $50,000, and a deck would cost you about that
> much too.
>
> However, most of your problem might be in your
> lighting. I have a colleague who completed a comedy
> short feature last year, all shot with an XL1. The
> show was beautiful, and he had all kinds of lighting
> situations with wide contrast ranges. I've also used
> exterior footage shot with an XL1 on bright sunny days
> with no problems...we used HMI's, reflectors and
> promist filters just like we'd do with any other
> camera and it all looked great.
>
> Please don't take this as a putdown, but if I may
> paraphrase that '80's bumper sticker you used to see
> on the backs of rusty pickup trucks in the midwest and
> south: Cameras don't shoot movies, people do.
>
>
> --- steve sanacore wrote:
>> Hi all;
>>
>> I am new to this list and I want to thank all of you
>> who have been so
>> helpful with many of my video novice questions so
>> far.
>>
>> I like my Canon XL-1, but have found the major
>> shortcoming is in dealing
>> with high contrast. I have been told that one of the
>> reasons is because of
>> the small 1/3" ccd chips the camera uses for
>> capturing the image.
>>
>> I was wondering what camera can I move up to that
>> will provide better
>> contrast control or a wider latitude of contrast,
>> but will also keep the
>> film like qualities of the XL-1, e.i. frame mode.
>>
>> Another requirement is being able to do all post
>> production on my Mac. I
>> assume digital betacam is the way to go, but
>> wondered if there were any
>> alternatives? What about the larger format DV
>> cameras? Are they any better?
>> Do they all have IEEE 1394 interfaces?
>>
>> Thank you, any info will be a great help.
>>
>> Steve Sanacore
>>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:52:13 -0500
From: steve sanacore
To:
Subject: Re: up from DV?
Message-ID:
Robert;
Thanks for the informative reply. I think anything in that price range
would be gear I would rent instead of purchase. My video AC, has access to
digi-beta rental gear, so that would be my next best option is my client
doesn't accept my abilities with Mini DV.
For those prices, wouldn't I be better off just going to HD?
After all, that is the future, right?
You certainly answered my questions and I appreciate that.
Steve Sanacore
> From: "Robert C. Fisher"
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:36:40 -0800
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: up from DV?
>
>
>
> steve sanacore wrote:
>
>> Hi all;
>>
>> I am new to this list and I want to thank all of you who have been so
>> helpful with many of my video novice questions so far.
>>
>> I like my Canon XL-1, but have found the major shortcoming is in dealing
>> with high contrast. I have been told that one of the reasons is because of
>> the small 1/3" ccd chips the camera uses for capturing the image.
>>
>> I was wondering what camera can I move up to that will provide better
>> contrast control or a wider latitude of contrast, but will also keep the
>> film like qualities of the XL-1, e.i. frame mode.
>>
>> Another requirement is being able to do all post production on my Mac. I
>> assume digital betacam is the way to go, but wondered if there were any
>> alternatives? What about the larger format DV cameras? Are they any better?
>> Do they all have IEEE 1394 interfaces?
>>
>> Thank you, any info will be a great help.
>>
>> Steve Sanacore
>>
>
> One camera that would be a vast improvment in image quality and contrast is
> the JVC DV500. This camera is vastly superior to the XL-1 and not too much
> more money. Things it doesn't have
> are frame mode and image stabilization. thisgs you do get are larger CCD's
> 10bit DSP's(very adjustable image quality), good audio preamps, and very sharp
> images(this can be manipulated for
> just about any effect). The interchangable lenses are a plus, you can use lens
> extenders, Nikon lenses, and other lenses for efrfect. The image quality is
> just a notch below the Sony
> DSR-300 but the DSR300 is beat on cost to performance. The DSR500W is the next
> best thing to Digi Beta without spending $100,000, which is what would happen
> if you go this way and it is
> DVCAM so you can edit without extra hardware on a Mac(this is a DV25 formate).
> If you really havve to go the DigiBeta way try this, DVW707(this is the low
> end DigiBeta Camera) Camera
> $40,000 plus lens, DigiBeta Deck $40,000, Uncompressed editing hardware for
> the Mac $5-10,000, Storage $10-20,000 plus the standard ystem costs of around
> $4-5,000.
>
> Next cheapest route would be JVC D-9(while keeping the improvments in tape
> format that DigiBeta offers) but the camera and deck would still cost only 1/2
> to 1/3 of the Sony equipment the
> uncompressed Mac editing costs would remain about the same. You could possibly
> put together a camera(DY-70) and deck for the $20-25,000 range though but I
> would spend a little more and get
> the better JVC camera(DY-90W@$25,000) this would come in at $30-40,000 range.
>
> Going with the DV500 the camera is about $5,000, a good DV deck is around
> $3,000, the other stuff you need would include tripod and head, batteries,
> monitors, lights and other stuff. The
> DV500 offers the most image improvment for the dollar whle keeping most of
> your present investment. If you really need the frame mode thing this can be
> added in post via CineLook and other
> post processing software but time better spent would be to improve the overall
> image and learn really good lighting and be creative with camera angles and
> composition. Video is not film
> but you can still make awsome images in either form by useing the strengths
> and weaknesses of each to you advantage.
>
> Cheers
> Bob Fisher
> FishPond Digital
>
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:01:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Cc: nbarber@bellatlantic.net
Subject: Re: Video Man Gone Bad
Message-ID: <200102120401.WAA04055@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>I just wanted all of you to know what happens when a good upstanding
>video producer goes over to the dark side and becomes a dot.com.....
>
>Take a look at http://www.pascackvalleybiz.com - the monster creation
>that has been eating all my time. I don't even have time to read DV-L
>any more!
>
>Ned Barber
>Performance Video...now pascackvalleybiz.com (sigh)
I would, but....
BRN <123> nslookup www.pascackvalleybiz.com
Server: localhost
Address: 127.0.0.1
*** localhost can't find www.pascackvalleybiz.com: Non-existent host/domain
BRN <124> nslookup pascackvalleybiz.com
Server: localhost
Address: 127.0.0.1
*** localhost can't find pascackvalleybiz.com: Non-existent host/domain
MB
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:15:25 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Video Man Gone Bad
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211230950.038a8c70@popserver.panix.com>
At 10:01 PM 2/11/01 -0600, MB wrote:
>I would, but....
>
>BRN <123> nslookup www.pascackvalleybiz.com
>Server: localhost
>Address: 127.0.0.1
Use 63.163.4.84 while your DNS server waits for its update ....
And in case you are wondering where the heck Pasack Valley is:
whois -h whois.networksolutions.com pascackvalleybiz.com ...
Registrant:
BARBER ASSOCIATES, INC (PASCACKVALLEYBIZ-DOM)
10Queen Court
PARK RIDGE, NJ 07656 US
Domain Name: PASCACKVALLEYBIZ.COM
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
BARBER ASSOCIATES, INC (BA3568-ORG) no.valid.email@worldnic.net
BARBER ASSOCIATES, INC
10Queen Court
PARK RIDGE, NJ 07656 US
201 391 0675 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
BARBER, NED (NB5497) nbarber@bellatlantic.net
BARBER ASSOCIATES, INC
10 Queen Court
PARK RIDGE, NJ 07656 US
201 391 0675 123 123 1234
Record last updated on 10-Jan-2001.
Record expires on 01-Jan-2002.
Record created on 01-Jan-2001.
Database last updated on 11-Feb-2001 15:39:33 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.FREE-DNS.COM 208.23.118.24
NS228.CSAIL.COM 208.23.118.228
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:20:55 -0800
From: Nick Schlott
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal
Operation)
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20010211202055.01d30868@m4.sprynet.com>
BS -
I agree, the 'association' mystery regarding Premiere.prf is a out of hand.
There is no possible way an extension conflict could ever cause a problem
in Premiere's .prf file just because it shares an extension with another app.
To clarify: what an extension association (.prf in this case) does is
associate a file's extension with a specific app (as stated earlier, a
similar mechanism exists on Mac with filetypes + creators). This is only
*ever* used if you try to open that file, and the system needs to find an
app that can edit/view it.
For example, if Director 6 has decided it wants '.prf' files, and you
double-click Premiere's prem60.prf file, then Director will be launched and
given that file to open. D6 will probably look at the file and (if the
developers were appropriately careful) ignore it because it's not really a
D6 file.
In other words, the above is the *only* case where there's ever a conflict:
if the system needs to find an app to edit prem60.prf. So: don't
double-click on it (why would you?) and this issue doesn't come up.
So: the mere presence of Director 6 on a system that also has Premiere 6
won't ever cause a problem because of a file association on the .prf file.
Go ahead and install both.
Hope this helps.
Nick
==========================================================
At 06:23 PM 2/11/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>At 01:01 PM 2/11/01 -1000, you wrote:
>
>>With Windows Explorer I would look at my prem50.prf file and it would then
>>be identified as a Macromedia file.
>
>
>There is no mystery to this. If you install an application and that
>application insists on registering a file extension as its own, then it
>officially "owns" this extension and the app will be used to open a file
>with that extension if you click on the file. If the application disregards
>common precautions, it may even attempt to "process" that file. And if the
>app is really boneheaded, it will look at any file with that extension as
>one of its own and will eat it.
>
>A discussion about platform inadequacies could definitely be in order at
>this point, but in the interest of peace & understanding, this discussion
>is discouraged. (Just to pre-empt the point: A four-character creator code,
>combined with a four-character owner code definitely result in more choices
>than a three-character files extension. Especially if the four-character
>codes must be registered with the Owner & Creator Police. Point made. Case
>closed.)
>
>BS
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:25:44 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Subject: RE: Noise Reduction (was: Sound Forge)
Message-ID:
Eric, I haven't experienced any weird artifacting that I am aware of. I
do generally use the noise reduction tool first before doing any other
audio sweetening and processing tasks, though. I do not apply the noise
reduction process multiple times either. Sorry that I can't be of much
more help.
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
-----Original Message-----
I find that noise reduction capability is limited, before wierd
artifacting is introduced, even for very specific noise like a mains
hummmmmm.
Is there a particular technique that you have found particularly useful
?
For example, reduce noise before normalising, reduce noise in several
small steps rather than one big one, sleep in a anechoic chamber etc ?
eric from oz
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:25:47 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Subject: RE: Premiere preference file PREM50.PRF (was: Illegal Operation)
Message-ID:
I can easily explain this, Jon. It is called Windows file associations.
On my system, Windows Explorer reports my prem50.prf file as a
"PICSRules File" and so "prf" extension files are associated with IE 5.5
on my system. That should have no effect at all on Premiere 5.1c using
it's own prem50.prf file as it's own preference file and not a PICS
Rules File, or in your case a Macromedia file. Windows uses file
associations to define which application will open the file if you
double-click on it in Windows Explorer. Of course, one should not
double-click on the prem50.prf file and open it in another application,
but why would anybody do that anyway.
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
-----Original Message-----
.....With Windows Explorer I would look at my prem50.prf file and it
would then be identified as a Macromedia file. I would not believe
it if I had not seen it myself. All this was under NT 4, by the way.
I've since changed OS to Win2K.
When you can explain this Richard, please do get back to me.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:29:48 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Video Man Gone Bad
Message-ID: <200102120429.WAA04214@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>At 10:01 PM 2/11/01 -0600, MB wrote:
>
>>I would, but....
>>
>>BRN <123> nslookup www.pascackvalleybiz.com
>>Server: localhost
>>Address: 127.0.0.1
>
>
>Use 63.163.4.84 while your DNS server waits for its update ....
That is what is strange about the error. There is no such thing as an
update for a new entry, or an entry that has never been accessed before.
Because this lookup is new, my local bind/named server will automatically
ask for the name servers for pascackvalleybiz.com. Then it will query one
of them for the info for www.pascackvalleybiz.com.
Since it is working now, I can't track down the reason for it failing before.
MB
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:45:28 -0800
From: "John.Mortensen"
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: Re: Avid CoDec
Message-ID:
on 2/11/01 12:57 PM, Atlantic Productions at edisin@gte.net wrote:
> Mac or PC?
>=20
>=20
> on 2/11/01 2:29 PM, John.Mortensen at john.mortensen@thinkatron.com wrote=
:
>=20
>> I need the Avid Quicktime Codec Extension... Can someone e-mail it to me=
? or
>> know where I can download it from
I found it on Avid's web site. I had to sign up for a password.
Thanks,
-john
_____________________________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:46:05 -0500
From: "David Mowbray"
To: "Bob S." , DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Converter 2.1 - What Platform?
Message-ID: <3A87243D.16226.300CC78@localhost>
Bob
Actually the lack of platform mention was my oversight ... I've been
talking about DV Converter on this list since version 1, two years
ago. Sometimes you forget that not everyone remembers or was
even a witness.
I did however, in talking about new features, mention the Microsoft
DV Codec, possibly a dead give-away :-)
> Anyway good luck with the program, let us all know when and if it gets
> ported to the Mac OS.
Thanks for the good wishes. If only there was a Visual Basic for the
Mac (maybe there is and I haven't seen it) I'd be happy to give it a
try. Seems to be one of the good things that MS actually did.
It's not going to be of much use though, because DV Converter is
specifically aimed at making DV avi files portable among the
different DV Codecs on the PC side. I don't see much application in
the QT world, though DV Converter can extract timecodes and list
them from .dv files produced in QuickTime systems.
Cheers
David Mowbray
=======================
Baobab Productions Inc.
http://www.baobab.net
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:46:43 -0600
From: "Marc C. Hood, EdD"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Video Man Gone Bad
Message-ID: <3A876AB3.B3682351@adent.com>
Now why would a good video man like you want to become a web head? I got there on the first try with no problems...Where's the DV? ;-)
mhood
Ned Barber wrote:
> Well,
>
> I just wanted all of you to know what happens when a good upstanding
> video producer goes over to the dark side and becomes a dot.com.....
>
> Take a look at http://www.pascackvalleybiz.com - the monster creation
> that has been eating all my time. I don't even have time to read DV-L
> any more!
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:59:54 -0600
From: "Scott Sanders"
To:
Subject: Premiere 6 with DVRaptor
Message-ID:
To rephrase. Can you use Premiere 6 to play back DV Quicktime Files through
a DVRaptor?
Thanks,
Scott
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:56:47 -0500
From: "David Mowbray"
To: "Scott Sanders" , DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: QT5 codec with DVRaptor?
Message-ID: <3A8726BF.23433.30A98B0@localhost>
Scott:
This is where DV Converter might be able to help.
QT can save an MOV as a DV avi file but that will not run in any
Canopus application. But DV Converter can make such an avi file
open in a Canopus app.
It is possible that with Premiere 6 installed on a Canopus system
that you can open a DV avi file derived from QT (not possible with
Premiere 5.1) but I have not tried it.
> Raptor's utilities will only work with AVI files. Will Premiere 6
> push out DV from a MOV file? Even compressed with the QT5 DV codec?
> Anyone know?
Premiere 6 will make a DV avi file from an MOV (flattened
QuickTime) but you will have to render through the Canopus or
Microsoft DV Codec.
Cheers
David Mowbray
=======================
Baobab Productions Inc.
http://www.baobab.net
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:41:22 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere 6 with DVRaptor
Message-ID: <3A8793A2.5BCAF526@maui.net>
Premiere 5.1c will playback a Quicktime File through the Canopus Storm. However, it must be rendered first.
That's all the help I can be.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
Scott Sanders wrote:
> To rephrase. Can you use Premiere 6 to play back DV Quicktime Files through
> a DVRaptor?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:49:27 -0600
From: "Scott Sanders"
To:
Subject: RE: Premiere 6 with DVRaptor
Message-ID:
Ok but does it matter what codec you render it with? Does it have to be the
Canopus Codec or could you playout a QT file that was rendered with the QT5
DVCodec?
Thanks,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Burkhart [mailto:burkhart@maui.net]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:41 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere 6 with DVRaptor
Premiere 5.1c will playback a Quicktime File through the Canopus Storm.
However, it must be rendered first.
That's all the help I can be.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
Scott Sanders wrote:
> To rephrase. Can you use Premiere 6 to play back DV Quicktime Files
through
> a DVRaptor?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:17:03 -0600
From: Jeff Economy
To: DV-L
Subject: QT5 & FCP
Message-ID:
I'm currently running Final Cut Pro on a b&w G3 under OS 8.6, w/
QuickTime 4.1.2 and Firewire 2.3.3. Is there any known issue updating
this configuration to QT5 (advantages and/ or possible conflicts)?
Thanks--
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:27:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org (DV-L Mail List)
Subject: OT: Photoshop 6 question
Message-ID: <200102120827.CAA07163@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
I've run into an extremely nasty bug with Photoshop 6. I get a program
error if I print anything to the HP Deskjet printer and then cut-n-paste
image data from one image to another. While it will let me copy it into
the buffer and paste it, as soon as I try to move it, or do anything in
Photoshop, the program error pops up. This bug is so damn bad that it
makes PS useless until one kills the program and starts it up again.
Not good, not good at all.
According to the FAQ on Adobe's site, the program error is caused by the
printing software leaving the CPU in a bad state that causes PS to have
a floating error.
To reset the error, all one needs to do is display the about box for any
plugin. Obviously Adobe needs to fix the bug and hopefully will do so in
the patch update.
In any event, I've not found any way to bring up an about box. I have no
idea what is, or isn't, a Photoshop plugin. What I've looked at doesn't
have an about box.
Anyone have a clue as to what to do to display an about box for any of the
PS plugins? It would have been nice if they gave a step-by-step example of
what to do. But, nooo, they couldn't do that.
Thanks in advance.
MB
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