DV-L Thu, 15 Feb 2001 Volume 1 : Number 767
In this issue:
error message trv-11
Arabic captioning
RE: QOAC: Input on new DVCentral site...
Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: Input on new DVCentral site...
Thank You, Steve Bennett(s)
Re: Corrupted CD
Adobe After Effects - Win 2K Hardware Key issues
Re: error message trv-11
Re: A couple of Edit DV questions
SYNC IS SUNK !
Re: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs < VIRUS
Re: Corrupted CD
Re: Adobe After Effects - Win 2K Hardware Key issues
Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
RE: Where's the new Panasonic AG-DVC200??
Re: Arabic captioning
Re: Arabic captioning
RE: VX2k, XL1, yadda yadda yadda.
Re:XL1 4 channel audio
Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
RE: VX2k, XL1, yadda yadda yadda.
RE: Waterproof housing for GL-1
Wireless UHF mic suggestions
Re: SAT or Digital Cable
RE: Wireless UHF mic suggestions
Re: Deleting FCP projects
Re: Cleaner & QT
Re: fcp freeze frame
RE: Wireless UHF mic suggestions
Re: DV CODEC Artifacts?
Help for beginners
Hastle with DV Master/Speedrazer
RE: SAT or Digital Cable
Re: MiniDisc Recorder
Re: Arabic captioning
RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
RE: Hastle with DV Master/Speedrazer
Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
Re: Hastle with DV Master/Speedrazer
The Return of the Tyco Cam
looking for "Basic Lighting for DV" video by John Jackman
Re: Cleaner & QT
RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Tech support, required reading
RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: Cleaner & QT Related question: export from Premiere
Re: SYNC IS SUNK !
RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: Tech support, required reading
Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
RE: SAT or Digital Cable
Re: SAT or Digital Cable
Re: looking for "Basic Lighting for DV" video by John Jackman
RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
Re: How to obtain colors as seen in Gladiator/Ford Commercials
Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Tech and customer support (was: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!)
Antec's TVator
Re: SAT or Digital Cable
Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: SYNC IS SUNK !
Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Re: SYNC IS SUNK !
OT: Pentium 233mmx didn't work out
Re: OT: Pentium 233mmx didn't work out
please help!!
Re: please help!!
Color Timing
Re: please help!!
Re: please help!!
RE: please help!!
compare PC110 vs. PC100
new member question
Re: new member question
Re: new member question
Re: new member question
Re: new member question
Steadicam Vs. Glidecam
Re: new member question
Re: Color Timing
Re: Apple's superdrive
Re: Steadicam Vs. Glidecam
Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Canpous DV STrom Upgrade Rebates
RT2000 MegaPack 3 coming soon!!
Re: Cleaner & QT Related question: export from Premiere
Re: Cleaner & QT Related question: export from Premiere
Big RT2000 News
Re: OT: Pentium 233mmx didn't work out
Re: please help!!
Re: please help!!
SV: Steadicam Vs. Glidecam
Re: How to obtain colors as seen in Gladiator/Ford Commercials
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:27:09 +0800
From: aking
To:
Subject: error message trv-11
Message-ID:
I have a Sony TRV-11 and my tapes will not load
It has a self diagnosis display with a five digit code
as follows C:31:40
Does anyone know where I can find a list of the codes,
especially the last two digits as there is no reference
in the manual for complete codes.
I have ejected the tape several times as the overview suggests,
and changed tapes to no avail.
Hope you can help.
cheers
Andy King.
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:36:39 -0000
From: Richard Measures
To: "DV-L (E-mail)"
Subject: Arabic captioning
Message-ID: <01C09669.A2D6EA20@OFFICE>
Here's a question for all you internationalists out there ....
We are coming towards the end on an educational project shot in in Jordan,
for use by schools in Jordan (an Arabic speaking country).
Editing is almost complete, but we need to add a few Arabic captions. The
translation of these is being done from the English by the British Council,
the challenge is how we get them onto the screen back here in the UK.
It can't be as simple as installing an Arabic font on the PC can it? What
about the different (right to left) reading direction? At the end of the
day, I need to lay up these captions in Photoshop for use in Premiere - so
how is it done?
Cheers
Richard Measures
Real World Televisual Ltd
Tel & Fax +44 (0) 1302 852629
www.realworldtv.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:37:51 +0100
From: Erik Wolla
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: QOAC: Input on new DVCentral site...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Woodworth [mailto:Lists@divergentmedia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:49 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: QOAC: Input on new DVCentral site...
>
>
>
> Question Of All Correspondents:
>
> Work is steadily progressing on the new website software, now
> is the time to
> influence it's design. The new site currently has a section
> for articles to
> be posted by members, a section for Bios, and a FAQ.
>
> Currently the news articles are divided into 5 categories:
> -Events
> -Products
> -Editorials
> -Tutorials
> -Other
>
> Any additions, modifications, subtractions?
>
> Second the Bio section is loosely based on the comments of Rune, who
> suggested the following data be stored:
>
> - Name
> - Email
> - Phone (optional, I figured for people who also run businesses)
> - Picture (thumbnail + bigger)
> - Location
> - Age
> - Platform (OS, software, etc)
> - Interests
> - Website URL
> - Bio (A big section to write about your self)
>
> Again, additions, subtractions, distractions, surfactants?
How about a separate entry for (preferred) camera/video device/video
format(s), ex.
Sony DSR-PD150 (DVCAM)
>
> --Mike Woodworth CIC-CIO
>
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> From: Mike Woodworth [mailto:Lists@divergentmedia.com= ]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:49 = PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: QOAC: Input on new DVCentral = site...
>
>
>
> Question Of All Correspondents:
>
> Work is steadily progressing on the new website = software, now
> is the time to
> influence it's design. The new site = currently has a section
> for articles to
> be posted by members, a section for Bios, and a = FAQ.
>
> Currently the news articles are divided into 5 = categories:
> -Events
> -Products
> -Editorials
> -Tutorials
> -Other
>
> Any additions, modifications, = subtractions?
>
> Second the Bio section is loosely based on the = comments of Rune, who
> suggested the following data be stored:
>
> - Name
> - Email
> - Phone (optional, I figured for people = who also run businesses)
> - Picture (thumbnail + bigger)
> - Location
> - Age
> - Platform (OS, software, etc)
> - Interests
> - Website URL
> - Bio (A big section to write about your = self)
>
> Again, additions, subtractions, distractions, = surfactants?
How about a separate entry for (preferred) = camera/video device/video format(s), ex.
Sony DSR-PD150 (DVCAM)
>
> --Mike Woodworth CIC-CIO
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:56:28 -0800
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Subject: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <002501c09674$dcea9df0$3946989e@VIZION2000>
I am currently travelling around Europe doing my stuff and have a serious
problem with P6 which I cant seem to sort out. Adobe have not yet learnt
that people, in this day and age, do need an email service for Tech support.
I mean when you try and phone tech support and the only way they can offer
to support you is by phonng back and you are on location and travelling
through a number different European countries -- what other method ofr
reliable contact is there but Email?? Do they not realise that holding on
for Tech support is not a financially viable option when you are paying
international call charges.. and what is the point of calling another call
centre when they do not speak English!!!
Here is the story - I got back to Ca in late January from Europe with my
500MHZ laptop - ready to upgrade from P5.1c and open that parcel from Adobe
with the long awaited P6!!
But before a tear the wrappers off I think a bit (glad I did -- it can be a
rare occurence!!)
I could do with an extra drive and my system needs upgrading from Win 98 to
Win 2K. So I order another 25G drive which does not arrive until I have to
fly off again for another European based project.
Last week I get some free time and start the process. I upgrade the existing
drive to Win 2k and P5.1c still works perfectly on the upgraded O/S. That is
a good start. However I decided to play safe and not upgrade to P6 straight
away. I partition the new drive to give me 3 small primary partitions - a
small one for Win 98, a partition for FreeBSD Unix and one for Linux plus a
large extended partion within which there are three logical partitions. The
first, 1.6G for the Win 2K O/S formatted NTFS, the second 6G for programmes
formatted Fat 32 and the last for Data formated NTFS. I install Win 2k and
that works fine. Then I install my Adobe applications. Acrobate, Photoshop,
Indesign, After Effects production bundle, Premiere 5.1c. All seem to be
working fine. Then I install the upgrade to P6 and disaster strikes.
First neither P6 nor P5.1c will load -- the initial load screen appears
along with all the credits and then nothing!! Now the problems start - I try
to Uninstall P5 (wondering whether some sort of clash is occuring and the
Uninstall bogs out entirley saying it cannot find the Premiere.exe file. I
do the same with with P6 and the problem gets worse.
So I try and uninstall AE production bundle and that will not uninstall
either.
To cut a long story short I eventually get rid of both P6 and P5.1 but am,
at this point, uncertain whether I have got rid of all the files.
I reinstall 5.1 and it works. I upgrade again and neither works. Neither
does the Uninstall uninstall properly.
Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? By the way I do have MS
Visual Studio 6 installed and the Win 2K resource kit.
I mean I still have 5.1(c) and all the other Adobe Applications working on
my original drive -- so I guess it is not a hardware problem. I guess it
could well be some kind of driver problem. It looks as though the Uninstall
scripts get ****** up by the upgrade process. It would be useful if I could
find out if I could get back to a bare system. I suppose I could reinstall
Win 2k and start all over again. However that means a whole day of messing
about and I do not want to start without some advice.
By the way will the upgrade install without pre-installing P5? I have not
tried that route?
DE
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:05:20 -0800
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Subject: Re: Input on new DVCentral site...
Message-ID: <019601c09676$d8320d00$3946989e@VIZION2000>
Can I suggest a section for Technical - this could perhaps be further
subdivided
e.g. Cameras, NLE, NLE BUGS, Post Production Equipment, Other
or would that be tooooooooooooo much
DE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Woodworth"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:49 PM
Subject: QOAC: Input on new DVCentral site...
>
> Question Of All Correspondents:
>
> Work is steadily progressing on the new website software, now is the time
to
> influence it's design. The new site currently has a section for articles
to
> be posted by members, a section for Bios, and a FAQ.
>
> Currently the news articles are divided into 5 categories:
> -Events
> -Products
> -Editorials
> -Tutorials
> -Other
>
> Any additions, modifications, subtractions?
>
> Second the Bio section is loosely based on the comments of Rune, who
> suggested the following data be stored:
>
> - Name
> - Email
> - Phone (optional, I figured for people who also run businesses)
> - Picture (thumbnail + bigger)
> - Location
> - Age
> - Platform (OS, software, etc)
> - Interests
> - Website URL
> - Bio (A big section to write about your self)
>
> Again, additions, subtractions, distractions, surfactants?
>
> --Mike Woodworth CIC-CIO
>
> ---(cut off when replying)-------------------
> This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as
http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members.
>
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>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:21:35 -0800
From: Lori & David Tango
To:
Subject: Thank You, Steve Bennett(s)
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010214030801.00a0e9f0@mail.flashcom.net>
At 12:38 AM 02/14/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>You really do have to kinda go beyond the default settings that come
>with Cleaner and QT Player
Steve, thanks for your very clear explanation for this home hobbyist. I
will investigate the Sorenson Developer but doubt that I will reach that
level, since I am not a developer.
Allow me to mention that the most talented .gif animator I have found on
the web is also named Steve Bennett. He did several of these butterflies
for our TANGO site:
http://randomfilm.com/images/TANGPUR4.gif
His homebase is:
http://www.karmastorm.com/
Thanks again for your help...both of you!
: = ) David Tango
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:10:26 -0800
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Subject: Re: Corrupted CD
Message-ID: <019701c09676$d9856800$3946989e@VIZION2000>
Try three things --
first try some other drives e.g. my old panasonic SCSI often reads CDs that
my laptop drive will not read -- so much so that I carry it with me on
location and hook it up using the New Media Bus Toaster PCMCIA card.
Secondly invest in one of those devices that cleasn and repolish CDs -- I
have restored many an unplayable CD that way.
Thirdly you can get a liquid stuff that you polish on to a CD and it fills
up scratches.
I have not yet failed to restore a single CD using one or more of the above
techniques.
DE
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:18 PM
Subject: Corrupted CD
> Is there anyway I can at least recover some of my data on my CD that got
> corrupted?
> I am not sure what happen but my cd rom drive does not read my data. All
my
> important files are in that CD.
>
> Thanks:)
>
> Joselito
>
> ---(cut off when replying)-------------------
> This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as
http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members.
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>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:38:48 -0800
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Subject: Adobe After Effects - Win 2K Hardware Key issues
Message-ID: <000501c0967a$cecef4e0$3946989e@VIZION2000>
Following up my earlier postings there is another problem.
On the original drive Upgraded from Win 98 to Win 2k the Hardware key for
adobe production bundle is not being recognized.
Does anyone know anything about this? When I sort out the mess on my new
drive I will see what happens with the clean install of AE Pro bundle.
DE
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:48:36 +0900
From: jhogg
To:
Subject: Re: error message trv-11
Message-ID: <200102141148.UAA27308@apm01.m2.ocv.ne.jp>
This message seems to indicate a problem that can be fixed without
sending the camera for service.
Besides ejecting the tape, also disconnect the power, or battery, and
reconnect and try again. Those are the two options my TRV-900 manual
gives for this code.
Here is a link to the TRV-900 guru., John Beale's site and a copy of the
page with codes for the 900. I think the codes are the same for all Sony
cameras.
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/docs/faults.jpg
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:49:30 +0000
From: Tom Fox
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: Re: A couple of Edit DV questions
Message-ID:
Thanks for the tips Ralf.
I did look at a Demo of CATDV, but it does seems to be incredibly slow and
unstable. Did anyone else have problems with this prog on an older MAC
(8500)? Any resolutions?
--
Tom Fox
foxy@tripledub.com
on 14/2/01 12:31 am, Rolf Howarth at rolf@squarebox.co.uk swore blind in
writing:
> At 0:40 -0800 13/2/01, Tom Fox wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys. I've been a (fairly) quiet user on this list for about 6 weeks now,
>> and I finally have a question that has nothing to do with Region Coding.
>>
>> Firstly, I need to copy some of my edits from one project to another. The
>> reason I need to do this is that I have upgraded from EditDv unplugged. In
>> Unplugged, I began editing a project that I had (foolishly) shot in 16:9 (On
>> a TRV-900). Now that I have the full version, I can work in this format.
>> Problem is that I cannot seem to get the EDL across into the new 16:9
>> project. I seem to be able to export EDL's, but not import them. The "Import
>> Log" function seems to be something completely different. Can anybody shed
>> light on the situation?
>
> CatDV (http://www.catdv.com) will do what you want, import EDLs (and
> also Premiere and FCP batch lists and the like), and convert them to
> EditDV capture logs. (Plus a whole lot more - a DV-aware logging and
> cataloging tool, with automatic scene detection, etc.)
>
>> Secondly, I want to black my tapes with a custom logo. I reasoned that to do
>> this, I had to create the graphic ( a really ugly, mean picture of my
>> colleague), turn it into 1 hour's worth of DV footage, and drop it to tape,
>> when I go out. For one reason or another, this does not seem to work, with
>> "Print to DV" giving up in about 5 seconds....
>
> If you import a still into EditDV 5 seconds is the default length
> it's given. You can specify a different length but only *at the time
> of import*.
>
> -Rolf
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:09:09 EST
From: RasinTetra@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: SYNC IS SUNK !
Message-ID:
Hey, can anyone figure this out ? I have a sequence I created in FCP,
printed it out to a DV master on my DSR-20 deack. Everything's fine. But when
I make a dub of the master from the DSR-20 deack to VHS machine, the
resulting VHS copy is out of sync!
Any ideas ?
thanks, Bill
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:46:02 +0100
From: Robert Rouveroy
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs < VIRUS
Message-ID:
>At Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:13:52 -0500, you wrote
>
>>Our mailhost received they payload from aus-202-181.static.satnet.com.au
>>
>>Members who are on satnet.com.au are asked to do a thorough virus scan on
>>their system.
>
>This DeViL-ish list is were it comes from. Mine came from a *.ihug.com.au
>user.
------------
Has shown up many times here from hahaha@funnynet.com
Throw it out. Its a worm.
--
Robert Rouveroy csc
The Hague, Holland
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:02:07 -0500
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: Corrupted CD
Message-ID: <01c601c09686$f2ffac40$6401a8c0@design1>
For future reference you might also want to create a second copy of
important data and store it offsite in a different location from your first
copy. Not only will you have two copies for redundancy but if some disaster
occurs it must be much more widespread to get your data.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: Corrupted CD
> Try three things --
> first try some other drives e.g. my old panasonic SCSI often reads CDs
that
> my laptop drive will not read -- so much so that I carry it with me on
> location and hook it up using the New Media Bus Toaster PCMCIA card.
>
> Secondly invest in one of those devices that cleasn and repolish CDs -- I
> have restored many an unplayable CD that way.
>
> Thirdly you can get a liquid stuff that you polish on to a CD and it fills
> up scratches.
>
> I have not yet failed to restore a single CD using one or more of the
above
> techniques.
>
> DE
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:18 PM
> Subject: Corrupted CD
>
>
> > Is there anyway I can at least recover some of my data on my CD that got
> > corrupted?
> > I am not sure what happen but my cd rom drive does not read my data. All
> my
> > important files are in that CD.
> >
> > Thanks:)
> >
> > Joselito
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:15:05 -0800
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Subject: Re: Adobe After Effects - Win 2K Hardware Key issues
Message-ID: <000801c09688$26684460$3946989e@VIZION2000>
OK It now appears that when you upgrade an O\S from Win 98 to Win 2k the
Hardware Key software has to be re-installed. The Hardware Key does work
under Win 2K.
DE
----- Original Message -----
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:38 AM
Subject: Adobe After Effects - Win 2K Hardware Key issues
> Following up my earlier postings there is another problem.
>
> On the original drive Upgraded from Win 98 to Win 2k the Hardware key for
> adobe production bundle is not being recognized.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this? When I sort out the mess on my new
> drive I will see what happens with the clean install of AE Pro bundle.
>
> DE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---(cut off when replying)-------------------
> This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as
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>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:21:01 -0800
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <002401c09688$fa350030$3946989e@VIZION2000>
OK I nhave got to the bottom of this one.
I found out that on upgrading P6 was overlaying key P5.1 files on my system.
P6 was not installing itself into a seperate direcftory from P5.1.
Once I realised what was happening the cure was simple (once I had also
sorted out the registry!!)
All works fine -- I still wish Adobe had an email support line though.. I
dread to think how anyone with neglible computer experience would have
sorted out this one -- even though the cause was simple. It seems as though
the Installation and deinstall scripts are a bit lightweight --
DE
----- Original Message -----
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:56 AM
Subject: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
> I am currently travelling around Europe doing my stuff and have a serious
> problem with P6 which I cant seem to sort out. Adobe have not yet learnt
> that people, in this day and age, do need an email service for Tech
support.
>
> I mean when you try and phone tech support and the only way they can offer
> to support you is by phonng back and you are on location and travelling
> through a number different European countries -- what other method ofr
> reliable contact is there but Email?? Do they not realise that holding on
> for Tech support is not a financially viable option when you are paying
> international call charges.. and what is the point of calling another call
> centre when they do not speak English!!!
>
> Here is the story - I got back to Ca in late January from Europe with my
> 500MHZ laptop - ready to upgrade from P5.1c and open that parcel from
Adobe
> with the long awaited P6!!
>
> But before a tear the wrappers off I think a bit (glad I did -- it can be
a
> rare occurence!!)
>
> I could do with an extra drive and my system needs upgrading from Win 98
to
> Win 2K. So I order another 25G drive which does not arrive until I have to
> fly off again for another European based project.
>
> Last week I get some free time and start the process. I upgrade the
existing
> drive to Win 2k and P5.1c still works perfectly on the upgraded O/S. That
is
> a good start. However I decided to play safe and not upgrade to P6
straight
> away. I partition the new drive to give me 3 small primary partitions - a
> small one for Win 98, a partition for FreeBSD Unix and one for Linux plus
a
> large extended partion within which there are three logical partitions.
The
> first, 1.6G for the Win 2K O/S formatted NTFS, the second 6G for
programmes
> formatted Fat 32 and the last for Data formated NTFS. I install Win 2k and
> that works fine. Then I install my Adobe applications. Acrobate,
Photoshop,
> Indesign, After Effects production bundle, Premiere 5.1c. All seem to be
> working fine. Then I install the upgrade to P6 and disaster strikes.
>
> First neither P6 nor P5.1c will load -- the initial load screen appears
> along with all the credits and then nothing!! Now the problems start - I
try
> to Uninstall P5 (wondering whether some sort of clash is occuring and the
> Uninstall bogs out entirley saying it cannot find the Premiere.exe file. I
> do the same with with P6 and the problem gets worse.
>
> So I try and uninstall AE production bundle and that will not uninstall
> either.
>
> To cut a long story short I eventually get rid of both P6 and P5.1 but
am,
> at this point, uncertain whether I have got rid of all the files.
>
> I reinstall 5.1 and it works. I upgrade again and neither works. Neither
> does the Uninstall uninstall properly.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? By the way I do have MS
> Visual Studio 6 installed and the Win 2K resource kit.
>
> I mean I still have 5.1(c) and all the other Adobe Applications working on
> my original drive -- so I guess it is not a hardware problem. I guess it
> could well be some kind of driver problem. It looks as though the
Uninstall
> scripts get ****** up by the upgrade process. It would be useful if I
could
> find out if I could get back to a bare system. I suppose I could reinstall
> Win 2k and start all over again. However that means a whole day of
messing
> about and I do not want to start without some advice.
>
> By the way will the upgrade install without pre-installing P5? I have not
> tried that route?
>
> DE
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:24:31 -0500
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Where's the new Panasonic AG-DVC200??
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A409D725@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
We didn't select the locations, WEVA did. Sorry if you feel left out.
Best regards,
Jan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rik Albury [mailto:Rik.Albury@dalsemi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:30 PM
> To: 'DV-L@dvcentral.org'
> Subject: RE: Where's the new Panasonic AG-DVC200??
>
>
> Jan Crittenden _didn't_ say: "Dallas"!
>
> South San Francisco, CA 94080
> Universal City, CA 91608
> Toronto, Ontario M5J 1A6 Canada
> Bloomington, MN 55425
> Arlington, VA 22202
> Lake Buena Vista, FL 32830
> New York, NY 10001
> South Las Vegas, NV 89109
>
> I guess if you're on the east, west, or north perimeter,
> you're in luck. That leaves out the southern border and
> everything in the middle. Maybe we should apply to the
> United States for some foreign aid for this remote
> country we call Texas.
>
> -Rik. [CIC]
> K4TTT-TV
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:36:39 -0800
From: Raymond Luczak
To:
Subject: Re: Arabic captioning
Message-ID:
Have you ever looked at http://www.ccaption.com ? Seems to be a great tool
for indie filmmakers looking to increase their audiences by including a
potential 25 million Americans (or anyone else for that matter) with hearing
loss?
> From: Richard Measures
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:36:39 -0000
> To: "DV-L (E-mail)"
> Subject: Arabic captioning
>
> Here's a question for all you internationalists out there ....
>
> We are coming towards the end on an educational project shot in in Jordan,
> for use by schools in Jordan (an Arabic speaking country).
> Editing is almost complete, but we need to add a few Arabic captions. The
> translation of these is being done from the English by the British Council,
> the challenge is how we get them onto the screen back here in the UK.
>
> It can't be as simple as installing an Arabic font on the PC can it? What
> about the different (right to left) reading direction? At the end of the
> day, I need to lay up these captions in Photoshop for use in Premiere - so
> how is it done?
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard Measures
> Real World Televisual Ltd
> Tel & Fax +44 (0) 1302 852629
> www.realworldtv.co.uk
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:05:28 +0200
From: "Ra-anan"
To:
Subject: Re: Arabic captioning
Message-ID: <001001c0968f$309a9260$e609fea9@raanan>
B"SD
For Arabic & Hebrew, which both read from right to left, I UNDERSTAND that
Windows Professional 2000 supports all languages. We are planning to upgrade
from NT to WP2000 for that very reason.
Ra'anan
Jerusalem
(home of both Hebrew & Arabic)
----- Original Message -----
From: Raymond Luczak
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Arabic captioning
> Have you ever looked at http://www.ccaption.com ? Seems to be a great
tool
> for indie filmmakers looking to increase their audiences by including a
> potential 25 million Americans (or anyone else for that matter) with
hearing
> loss?
>
> > From: Richard Measures
> > Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:36:39 -0000
> > To: "DV-L (E-mail)"
> > Subject: Arabic captioning
> >
> > Here's a question for all you internationalists out there ....
> >
> > We are coming towards the end on an educational project shot in in
Jordan,
> > for use by schools in Jordan (an Arabic speaking country).
> > Editing is almost complete, but we need to add a few Arabic captions.
The
> > translation of these is being done from the English by the British
Council,
> > the challenge is how we get them onto the screen back here in the UK.
> >
> > It can't be as simple as installing an Arabic font on the PC can it?
What
> > about the different (right to left) reading direction? At the end of the
> > day, I need to lay up these captions in Photoshop for use in Premiere -
so
> > how is it done?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Richard Measures
> > Real World Televisual Ltd
> > Tel & Fax +44 (0) 1302 852629
> > www.realworldtv.co.uk
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:49:30 -0400
From: "Hamel, Stephane (WHSCC)"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: VX2k, XL1, yadda yadda yadda.
Message-ID:
John, relax the troopers were heading for the donut shop...
Can anyone comment on the front heaviness of the xl-1 versus vx2k.
I haven't had the chance to hold the xl-1 but I can hardly believe that the
vx2k(PD150) can be beat in the front heaviness category (ie they are
heeeaavy).
Stephan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Burkhart [mailto:burkhart@maui.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:57 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: VX2k, XL1, yadda yadda yadda.
"Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503" wrote:
> The VX2K is a good camera. The XL1 is a good camera. They are
> both *different* cameras! Why is this always a fight around here?
>
Gotta put in my two cents before the Platform Police search light passes
this way. I can't imagine giving up the wonderful two Stereo Channels of
audio (4 channels mono) on the XL1. Yeah,
the camera focuses funny and is front heavy, but you really DO get used to
it.
Gotta go. I hear footsteps! (German Storm Trooper Boots, I think!)
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:19:46 -0500
From: Don Palomaki
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re:XL1 4 channel audio
Message-ID: <3A8A9402.6088861B@sysplan.com>
> proper sync. Can you record all 4 channels on the XL-1 at the same time? Can
> all 4 use external mics or are you limited to 2 external and the internal
> stereo mic?
To add a few notes to Jon's excellent reply.
The Stereo 1 channels give you a choice of the 3.5mm mini-phone jack for
the Canon mic or a pair of (gold plated) RCA jacks. You can use AGC or
manual gain for the Stereo 1 pair, with input levels MIC, MIC ATT, and
line (line being consumer -10 dBV). The manual controls are level and
balance. You can connect the MA-100 output to the Stereo 1 input.
The Stereo 2 channel are gold-plated RCA jacks, and offer a choice of
MIC, MIC ATT, or line level. The level control is AGC or manual using
individual level controls in this case. You can connect the MA-100
output to the Stereo 2 input if you like.
Mode selection is a combination of menu and switches. Some folks maybe
challenged by this the first few times out.
You can monitor Stereo 1, stereo 2, or a mix from the head phone jack.
You can select which audio is displayed on the VU meters.
You can obtain analog playback of the four audio track from the same
four RCA jacks.
Although I've not tried it, I suspect one can do 4 XLR mics nicely by
connecting a MA-100 and adding a Studio 1 XLR Pro or Beachtek.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:22:18 -0600
From: NFO
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
Message-ID: <001a01c09691$8a4f21c0$4b783fd8@toro>
Man arrested from The Netherlands in conjunction with the Anna Kournikova
virus.
see the article on cnn.com:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/02/14/kournikova.virus/index.html
also see his letter of admission at:
http://members.tripodnet.nl/on_the_fly/index.html
Kris Norman
www.soniqstudioz.com
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:21:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: VX2k, XL1, yadda yadda yadda.
Message-ID: <20010214152101.16882.qmail@web4002.mail.yahoo.com>
It's not the weight so much as the balance, I think.
I've used both and the VX2K seems easier to hold,
maybe a bit lighter too, but not much.
--- "Hamel, Stephane (WHSCC)"
wrote:
> John, relax the troopers were heading for the donut
> shop...
>
> Can anyone comment on the front heaviness of the
> xl-1 versus vx2k.
> I haven't had the chance to hold the xl-1 but I can
> hardly believe that the
> vx2k(PD150) can be beat in the front heaviness
> category (ie they are
> heeeaavy).
>
> Stephan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Burkhart [mailto:burkhart@maui.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:57 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: VX2k, XL1, yadda yadda yadda.
>
>
>
>
> "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503" wrote:
>
> > The VX2K is a good camera. The XL1 is a good
> camera. They are
> > both *different* cameras! Why is this always a
> fight around here?
> >
>
> Gotta put in my two cents before the Platform Police
> search light passes
> this way. I can't imagine giving up the wonderful
> two Stereo Channels of
> audio (4 channels mono) on the XL1. Yeah,
> the camera focuses funny and is front heavy, but you
> really DO get used to
> it.
>
> Gotta go. I hear footsteps! (German Storm Trooper
> Boots, I think!)
>
> Aloha,
> Jon Burkhart
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:50:45 -0500
From: "Christopher Van Nest"
To:
Subject: RE: Waterproof housing for GL-1
Message-ID:
Also check out Ewa Marine at http://www.ewamarine.com/-- although not =
hard-case housings, they do offer various options including (at least =
for the GL-1's VXM model) a wide angle lens.
-Christopher
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ScubaViz@aol.com [mailto:ScubaViz@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:29 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: Waterproof housing for GL-1
>=20
>=20
> I would try Amphibico (www.amphibico.com) or light and motion =
industries=20
> (www.lmindustries.com), both make a wide range of very good housings =
for=20
> video cameras. I know they both make one for the GL-1, but don't=20
> know about=20
> the lens issue (actually, not sure you need the fish eye in the =
housing,=20
> probably need it on the housing).
>=20
> Otherwise call one of the resellers and talk to them. B&H sell=20
> underwater=20
> housings as does Armato's (1-800-520-5012) or Helix in Chicago.
>=20
> Don Stark,CIC
> ScubaVision Productions
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:23:06 -0500
From: JohnstonWalt@omf.net (Walt Johnston)
To:
Subject: Wireless UHF mic suggestions
Message-ID: <3A8A6A9A.5613.D1DB56@localhost>
I work in lectures content & in Manila, Philippines where we have
many radio stations, TV stations, etc.
I'm seriously interested in the Samson UM1 or UM32.
Any comments on the UM1 or UM32 or other wireless suggestions?
Any suggestions on a Lav mic?
Walt
_________________________________________________________
Walter & Susan Johnston
OMF International
Kaagapay Video Ministry
"Training the Filipino Church Thru Video"
2250 Loucks Rd., York, PA 17404
Phone (717) 767-5118
www.amdg.com.ph/members/kaagapay
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:30:49 -0600
From: Robert Broussard
To:
Subject: Re: SAT or Digital Cable
Message-ID:
on 2/13/01 3:01 PM, Vidiot at brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com wrote:
> Me, I am a BUD owner and proud of it. I get stuff that the pizzapan
> thingies can never provide their viewer.
>
> MB
> --
Care to list some of the pros and cons of BUD? Do you recommend it to new
satellite users...??? Do tell!!!
Thanks,
-Robert
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:50:26 -0500
From: "E Berlin"
To:
Subject: RE: Wireless UHF mic suggestions
Message-ID:
My sense is the AudioTechnica U101 line is a bit better but still not
super-expensive.
EBerlin
-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Johnston [mailto:JohnstonWalt@omf.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:23 AM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Wireless UHF mic suggestions
I work in lectures content & in Manila, Philippines where we have
many radio stations, TV stations, etc.
I'm seriously interested in the Samson UM1 or UM32.
Any comments on the UM1 or UM32 or other wireless suggestions?
Any suggestions on a Lav mic?
Walt
_________________________________________________________
Walter & Susan Johnston
OMF International
Kaagapay Video Ministry
"Training the Filipino Church Thru Video"
2250 Loucks Rd., York, PA 17404
Phone (717) 767-5118
www.amdg.com.ph/members/kaagapay
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:52:06 -0800
From: Chris Benham
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Deleting FCP projects
Message-ID: <45351458.3191129526@[149.175.21.112]>
Well, if you've set your scratch disk settings correctly, it should be
quite simple. All you need to do is find the folder that you've
designated for your project and drag it to the trash. This is
assuming, of course, that you set a different folder for each project
you undertake. If you just have the scratch disk set to the root of
whichever drive you capture to it's a little more problematical. At
that point, you will need to go into the capture scratch folder and
locate all of the clips from that project (the names should be exactly
the same as the names in your batch list, unless you had the scratch
disk option "capture audio to a seperate file' selected, in which case
there will also be an Audio Capture scratch folder and the names will
be slightly different. Video filles will be named xxx-av-0, and audio
files will be xxx-a-1. Just make sure you grab all of the clips and
trash them.) Hey, has anyone figured out a way to print the batch list
to paper? I've haven't found any way to do it that's readable. . .
Render filles will be tougher to eliminate, since they have cryptic
names like Sequence1-FIN-001. These you maynot be able to erase unless
you're willing to re-render projects you are currently working on.
This is the main reason why I heartily recomend creating individual
folders for each project, and then selecting them from the Scratch Disk
preference. This keeps things neatly organized.
I would also recomend keeping a backup copy of your project file
itself, just in case you want to go back later make changes or re-edit.
Just by 2cents. . .
Chris
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scribed:
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:48:08 -0600
> From: Adam Zanzig
> To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
> Subject: Deleting FCP projects
> Message-ID: <3A8BA3BF@smumn.edu>
>
> Hello all. I've been working with FCP 1.2.5 for a few weeks and I'm
> starting to get the hang of it... The List has been really helpful.
> I am at a point where I need to delete a project or 2 to make space
> for others, but I have not been able to find any info in the FCP
> manual about the proper procedure for doing so. I'd like to make
> sure that I get rid of all the media and render files. What's the
> best way to go about this. Thank you,
> AZ
>
> Adam Zanzig
> Academic Support Specialist
> Saint Mary's University of Minnesota
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:00:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Cleaner & QT
Message-ID: <20010214170007.18077.qmail@web4006.mail.yahoo.com>
I use Media Cleaner Pro, and it does everything it's
supposed to do quite well. The manual is even
well-written, which might be a first. You have your
choice of just about any compression you might want to
use. A 4mb one would be a problem for people without
DSL or equivalent, I would think.
So, to answer your question...well, maybe...heheheh.
> My concern is how many people are going to take the
> time to download a 4 meg file and how many are going
> to have Quicktime players to see it. Also, should
> I consider getting the software
> to do the compression for the Real player? Was I
> nuts to even try it without Media Cleaner Pro?
>
> Would greatly welcome comments about what you would
> have done if it were your assignment.
>
> Aloha,
> Jon Burkhart
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:02:22 -0800
From: Chris Benham
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: fcp freeze frame
Message-ID: <45388523.3191130142@[149.175.21.112]>
I've experience this problem several times, and it seems to be random
to me. The suggestions offered to thi spoint are good ones. I've also
found that it's good to check the memory setting for FCP and make sure
you have enough available. Another thing to chek is to make sure that
your system disk is not too full. When the disk that's running your
system and software get' too ful, everything slows WAY down. You may
also want to pick up the QTM Reader update (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6) this is
supposed to fix dropped frame issues with clips that require rendering.
Yet another option is to mixdown the audio (Seuqence>Mixdown Audio).
This saves the program from having to render that audio as plays back
and can speed things up tremendously, especially if you have more than
two tracks of audio (remember that adding audio transitions is like
adding extra tracks. . . )
One good thing I've noticed is that even if it skips or drops frames or
freezes when playing from the timeline, it generally will not do it
when you Print To Video, so in some cases when I've experienced this
issue, i say 'Screw It' and don't worry about it.
Also, when all else fails, restart the computer and rebuild the desktop.
Chris
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> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:39:12 -0800
> From: Richo
> To:
> Subject: fcp freeze frame
> Message-ID:
>
> When playing a sequence in my canvas window the TV screen only shows
> the starting frame (frozen). When I stop the play, the frame is
> replaced by whatever frame I stop on. This problem began to occur
> half way through a recent session and was fine till then. Anybody
> seen this before? What did you do to 1. cause it (if known) and 2.
> solve it.
>
> Am stuck until I get over this so a fix would be appreciated like you
> wouldn't beleive.
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|Consultant | |
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:15:30 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Wireless UHF mic suggestions
Message-ID: <068C168376FFD411A6E100805F19999233FC79@misnts1.dalsemi.com>
Walt said, in part:
>Any comments on the UM1 or UM32 or other wireless suggestions?
>Any suggestions on a Lav mic?
I have 2 UM1s and I've been very pleased with them. If I needed
more, I would go with the UM32 without hesitation. It was not
available when I made my purchase. I have a lav and a handheld,
and the lav seems to deliver a little bit higher level output
than the handheld. I got the low-end mike elements in both.
Good range, good battery life, good sound. Never have drop-outs.
Has XLR balanced (good) and mini phone jack unbalanced (less
good, but I never use it). Got 'em from B&H. Good price.
-Rik.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:14:22 -0800
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV CODEC Artifacts?
Message-ID:
At 7:22 am -0700 13/2/01, Richard H. Heeren wrote:
>I notice that every once in a while, when I am using still text graphics
>in a video project, that there will appear some little "flashing"
>squares around an area at text edges containing fine detail. Am I
>seeing some artifacting of the DV CODEC in use (Canopus DVRaptor
>software DV CODEC)? The size of these little flashing squares looks
>like it may be about the size of the 8 X 8 pixel (???) squares used by
>the compression algorithm. Can anybody shed any light into this
>situation or has anybody else seen these? Thanks!
They are called 'mosquitos' - read about them , and which codecs
avoid them, at http://www.adamwilt.com.
Blurring (or anti-alaising) your text can help a great deal.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:31:31 -0600
From: Audrey Scouller
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Help for beginners
Message-ID: <3A8AC0F3.9381CA56@austin.rr.com>
We have a Compaq Presario (windows 98) system and cable modem, that came
pre-installed with a Firewire: Adaptec AHA-8940, File: WN1394.VXD and
compaq's own software DvDeck. When opened, DvDeck would freeze our
system. We uninstalled DvDeck (someone else's advice). Compaq tell us we
need to do a full restore, to retrieve DvDeck, but we are reluctant to
do this, seeing it didn't work originally. Other software came
pre-installed but none of them seem to recognize the connection, either.
We have tried to install VideoWave 4(30day trial) but the install aborts
with a message "your system has not been modified", and we don't know
what they are talking about. We also tried Ulead's VideoStudio5 but it
freezes our system and when rebooted we loose Netscape(files are erased)
so we have to re-download. IntroDV installed fine but couldn't capture,
although we suspect it doesn't like Win 98. What a mess!
Does anyone know of a copy of DvDeck that we could download or know of
some other software that would be compatable with our system. Or, do you
think there is a problem with our drivers etc? Any ideas?
We are complete beginners that have just bought a Cannon ZR 10 for
family use so we wish an inexpensive solution at this stage.
Thanks in advance
Audrey
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:31:20 GMT
From: "Ben Edwards (Lists)"
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Hastle with DV Master/Speedrazer
Message-ID: <3a8acef8.6100.0@gifford.co.uk>
I have a DV Master/Speedrazer 3.51 PC which I have just built. All is OK until
I plug in the breakout box and then speedrazer won't start. Any idea. If this
is the wrong list for this type of question I appolagise (could someone point
me in the wright direction).
Regards,
Ben
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:39:21 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: SAT or Digital Cable
Message-ID: <068C168376FFD411A6E100805F19999233FC7A@misnts1.dalsemi.com>
Robert Broussard said, in part:
Care to list some of the pros and cons of BUD? Do you recommend it to new
satellite users...??? Do tell!!!
With a BUD and a 4DTV IRD (Integrated Receiver-Descrambler), you can get
everything there is. All C-Band, all Ku-Band, all analog, all digital,
including everything available on the small dish. (I'm talking program
choices, not the actual sub-transponders, which have proprietary encoding
for EchoStar and DirectTV.)
One programming subscription covers analog and digital. (There are a few
digital feeds that you must select and pay for separately, but if you
subscribe, for example, to HBO, you get all the analog feeds - 8, I think
- plus all the digital feeds that the small-dish users would get and
probably more - lots of 'em, don't know how many - at no extra charge.)
The down side of BUD is significant. To begin with, it's a Big Ugly Dish.
It's much more expensive than the small dish, although equivalent
programming choices are the same or less, and you get more programming.
It's harder to install and align. I guess that's about it. If you can
tolerate the overhead, you get a lot more payload with a BUD.
If you care more about what you get, get the BUD. If you care more about
what you have to give for it, get the pizza pan.
-Rik.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:43:44 -0800
From: Ross Jones
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: MiniDisc Recorder
Message-ID:
>We're in the market for a low-cost MiniDisc recorder for battery-powered
>wild sound and supplemental dialog. Any good experiences, recommendations,
>prices, alternatives?
There is a good article at:
http://www.dv.com/magazine/2000/1200/rose1200.html
Get out your #3 iron and start soldering.
Ross
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:41:56 -0800
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Arabic captioning
Message-ID:
At 9:36 am +0000 14/2/01, Richard Measures wrote:
>Here's a question for all you internationalists out there ....
>
>We are coming towards the end on an educational project shot in in Jordan,
>for use by schools in Jordan (an Arabic speaking country).
>Editing is almost complete, but we need to add a few Arabic captions. The
>translation of these is being done from the English by the British Council,
>the challenge is how we get them onto the screen back here in the UK.
>
>It can't be as simple as installing an Arabic font on the PC can it? What
>about the different (right to left) reading direction? At the end of the
>day, I need to lay up these captions in Photoshop for use in Premiere - so
>how is it done?
Can't speak for PCs but for Macs what you do is install the Arabic
language kit (whish is included on the Mac OS 9 CD), and applications
that use the OS text routines gain full Arabic support, including
both the right-to left layout (mixed if you switch from roman to
Arabic in a document) and the intelligent joining of different
characters that is necessary for Arabic to look correct. You gain an
extra 'flags' menu on the right of the menubar that lets you switch
between script systems within a document.
There is also support for many other script systems available.
Of course, you will still need an Arabic speaker to type them in and
check them for you...
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:54:30 -0800
From: "Robert MacCaul"
To:
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID:
I'm glad you were able to sort out your system. Yes it's true that you need
to install Premiere 6.0 into a separate directory.
>I still wish Adobe had an email support line though.. I
dread to think how anyone with neglible computer experience would have
sorted out this one -- even though the cause was simple.>
My job is to monitor the forums and lists and report my findings back to
Adobe. I can provide some limited technical support, but I agree that we
need to address this issue. I will make them aware of this need.
Thanks,
Robert MacCaul
rmaccaul@adobe.com
Web Community Specialist, Dynamic Media
Adobe Systems Incorporated
www.adobe.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Vizion Communication [mailto:vizion@ixpres.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:21 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
OK I nhave got to the bottom of this one.
I found out that on upgrading P6 was overlaying key P5.1 files on my system.
P6 was not installing itself into a seperate direcftory from P5.1.
Once I realised what was happening the cure was simple (once I had also
sorted out the registry!!)
All works fine -- I still wish Adobe had an email support line though.. I
dread to think how anyone with neglible computer experience would have
sorted out this one -- even though the cause was simple. It seems as though
the Installation and deinstall scripts are a bit lightweight --
DE
----- Original Message -----
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:56 AM
Subject: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
> I am currently travelling around Europe doing my stuff and have a serious
> problem with P6 which I cant seem to sort out. Adobe have not yet learnt
> that people, in this day and age, do need an email service for Tech
support.
>
> I mean when you try and phone tech support and the only way they can offer
> to support you is by phonng back and you are on location and travelling
> through a number different European countries -- what other method ofr
> reliable contact is there but Email?? Do they not realise that holding on
> for Tech support is not a financially viable option when you are paying
> international call charges.. and what is the point of calling another call
> centre when they do not speak English!!!
>
> Here is the story - I got back to Ca in late January from Europe with my
> 500MHZ laptop - ready to upgrade from P5.1c and open that parcel from
Adobe
> with the long awaited P6!!
>
> But before a tear the wrappers off I think a bit (glad I did -- it can be
a
> rare occurence!!)
>
> I could do with an extra drive and my system needs upgrading from Win 98
to
> Win 2K. So I order another 25G drive which does not arrive until I have to
> fly off again for another European based project.
>
> Last week I get some free time and start the process. I upgrade the
existing
> drive to Win 2k and P5.1c still works perfectly on the upgraded O/S. That
is
> a good start. However I decided to play safe and not upgrade to P6
straight
> away. I partition the new drive to give me 3 small primary partitions - a
> small one for Win 98, a partition for FreeBSD Unix and one for Linux plus
a
> large extended partion within which there are three logical partitions.
The
> first, 1.6G for the Win 2K O/S formatted NTFS, the second 6G for
programmes
> formatted Fat 32 and the last for Data formated NTFS. I install Win 2k and
> that works fine. Then I install my Adobe applications. Acrobate,
Photoshop,
> Indesign, After Effects production bundle, Premiere 5.1c. All seem to be
> working fine. Then I install the upgrade to P6 and disaster strikes.
>
> First neither P6 nor P5.1c will load -- the initial load screen appears
> along with all the credits and then nothing!! Now the problems start - I
try
> to Uninstall P5 (wondering whether some sort of clash is occuring and the
> Uninstall bogs out entirley saying it cannot find the Premiere.exe file. I
> do the same with with P6 and the problem gets worse.
>
> So I try and uninstall AE production bundle and that will not uninstall
> either.
>
> To cut a long story short I eventually get rid of both P6 and P5.1 but
am,
> at this point, uncertain whether I have got rid of all the files.
>
> I reinstall 5.1 and it works. I upgrade again and neither works. Neither
> does the Uninstall uninstall properly.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? By the way I do have MS
> Visual Studio 6 installed and the Win 2K resource kit.
>
> I mean I still have 5.1(c) and all the other Adobe Applications working on
> my original drive -- so I guess it is not a hardware problem. I guess it
> could well be some kind of driver problem. It looks as though the
Uninstall
> scripts get ****** up by the upgrade process. It would be useful if I
could
> find out if I could get back to a bare system. I suppose I could reinstall
> Win 2k and start all over again. However that means a whole day of
messing
> about and I do not want to start without some advice.
>
> By the way will the upgrade install without pre-installing P5? I have not
> tried that route?
>
> DE
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:57:38 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214125547.043ad160@popserver.panix.com>
Guess is was cold at the beach and there was little of the action Robert
promised ...
The really horrific aspect is that the guy can't program. CNN Quote: "It's
horrifying," says Hypponen. "Someone who doesn't know how to programme can
produce a virus that infects hundreds of thousands of computers."
BS
At 08:22 AM 2/14/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Man arrested from The Netherlands in conjunction with the Anna Kournikova
>virus.
>
>see the article on cnn.com:
>http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/02/14/kournikova.virus/index.html
>
>also see his letter of admission at:
>http://members.tripodnet.nl/on_the_fly/index.html
>
>Kris Norman
>www.soniqstudioz.com
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:01:24 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Hastle with DV Master/Speedrazer
Message-ID: <068C168376FFD411A6E100805F19999233FC7C@misnts1.dalsemi.com>
Ben said, in part:
>... speedrazer won't start.
I don't suppose it could be something as simple as the way you're
spelling it, could it?
-Rik.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:09:34 -0800
From: "John Holmgren"
To:
Subject: Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
Message-ID: <000901c096b1$4a3d8f20$0c07aace@jh570>
Yes, this is the danger of the inadequate security of Microsofts VB
scripting
and ActiveX. I have had NO virus problems since disabling scripting
and ActiveX a year ago - and I don't miss them, either! They do nothing for
me.
My advice remains: disable Scripting and ActiveX in your network options.
JH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bertel Schmitt"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
> Guess is was cold at the beach and there was little of the action Robert
> promised ...
> The really horrific aspect is that the guy can't program. CNN Quote: "It's
> horrifying," says Hypponen. "Someone who doesn't know how to programme can
> produce a virus that infects hundreds of thousands of computers."
>
> BS
>
>
>
>
>
> At 08:22 AM 2/14/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >Man arrested from The Netherlands in conjunction with the Anna Kournikova
> >virus.
> >
> >see the article on cnn.com:
> >http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/02/14/kournikova.virus/index.html
> >
> >also see his letter of admission at:
> >http://members.tripodnet.nl/on_the_fly/index.html
> >
> >Kris Norman
> >www.soniqstudioz.com
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:16:38 -0500
From: "David Mowbray"
To: "Ben Edwards (Lists)" , DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Hastle with DV Master/Speedrazer
Message-ID: <3A8A8536.13818.10344D5B@localhost>
Ben wrote:
> I have a DV Master/Speedrazer 3.51 PC which I have just built. All is
> OK until I plug in the breakout box and then speedrazer won't start.
> Any idea. If this is the wrong list for this type of question I
> appolagise (could someone point me in the wright direction).
There is a DVMaster/SR discussion group at
http://www.ulti-media.com/messages.asp?adminrecno=2
Andy Stevens, the person who runs the list (which is part of a web
site devoted to DVMaster Pro) is quite knowledgeable.
Cheers
David Mowbray
=======================
Baobab Productions Inc.
http://www.baobab.net
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:27:05 -0800
From: Ross Jones
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: The Return of the Tyco Cam
Message-ID:
In case you were wondering what the next fad look will be:
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2001/02/13/0213ptech.html
"The camera comes bundled with easy-to-use video editing software
that lets kids lay out their movies using storyboards and also lets
them add funny special effects, like goofy cartoon-like eyes, that
can be pasted directly into the video. They can also insert text for
titles and for rolling credits at the end."
We'll have to send someone inside Intel to see if it will finally put
betacam gear to rest. ;)
Ross "doesn't laugh at the little cameras anymore" Jones
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:30:53 -0400
From: "Hamel, Stephane (WHSCC)"
To: "DV-L (E-mail)"
Subject: looking for "Basic Lighting for DV" video by John Jackman
Message-ID:
Can anyone point me in the right direction to get this video in Canada?
I believe John is on this list.
Regards
Stephan
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:14:42 -0500
From: "ifmp1"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Cleaner & QT
Message-ID: <20010214184742.FPOK7738.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@[12.78.200.46]>
RE:
----------
>From: Jon Burkhart
>To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
>Subject: Re: Cleaner & QT
>Date: Wed, Feb 14, 2001, 1:16 AM
>It was a 2 minute, 23 second video with lots of camera movement and action.
>It was not professionally shot and was all we had to work with. I don't
>have any compression tools for REAL
>video but chose Quicktime with a Sorenson compressor that came with After
>Effects. This is a file the viewer will download and it is a hefty 4 megs.
> The producer seem pleased with the
>results.
>
>My concern is how many people are going to take the time to download a 4
>meg file and how many are going to have Quicktime players to see it.
>Also, should I consider getting the software
>to do the compression for the Real player? Was I nuts to even try it
>without Media Cleaner Pro?
>
>Would greatly welcome comments about what you would have done if it were
>your assignment.
------------
Was the target connection 56k? Cable/DSL? Asking cable users to download
a 4mb file is one thing, but for 56k users, its another thing entirely.
If this was your first time doing anything like this, you very well may
have gotten "better" looking results with Real Producer. I believe there
is still a free version of this, at least there used to be.
However, if you really get into this stuff, I think you might find that
you could achieve results with QuickTime that would look better than
what you just did, at much smaller file size & data rate, and quite
likely better looking than what you will get with Real.
As for tools, its possible for someone who really knows what they are
doing to do better work with the most basic tools than a novice will do
with the best of everything. You can't achieve the "best" QuickTime
compression with just QT Player and Sorenson Basic, but you CAN achieve
something prefectly respectable if you experiment.
As for user base, I have lots of experience developing QT, Real, and WMP
stuff for high-end corporate clients (most often worked into larger
multimedia applications), but I can perhaps best give an example with
respect to our own site, www.ifmp.net. This is, although I don't believe
we hit anyone over the head with it, a very Mac-centric site. Its built
on Macs, hosted on Macs, but the majority of our user base comes in on
Windows 98 (distantly followed by Mac, which is followed closely by NT
and to a minority degree, Windows 2000). I can clearly tell from our
logs when a user hits the site and doesn't have one or all of the 3
plugins (Shockwave 8 (including Flash 5), and QuickTime) required to
view anything on our site past the intro page. Of these plugins, less
people have actually had Shockwave (of any version) than QuickTime. I
think I've only counted maybe 5 or so users who didn't have QuickTime
installed when they hit the site, out of around 700-1000+ unique
visitors per day (we don't advertise or sell anything on this particular
site, we just play around with XML, trigonometry, nudity, and
profanity), and most of these came in during the same week early last
year just after I appeared in a national magazine article on internet
movie sites (which brought in something like 30,000 additional users).
At that time however, QuickTime 4 had only been public for a few months.
That's people "off the street" too, who probably came to the site with
some interest in DV or knowledge of web video. That's an important
distinction. In corporate environments - especially where systems are
set up by a central administrator, you'll find entire companies devoid
of media plugins except the default Windows stuff, with the possible
exception of Information Services, who usually have QuickTime to some
degree along with their graphics applications, and probably Flash and
Shockwave as well in the web department.
Steve Bennett
www.ifmp.net
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:24:40 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214141621.02108ca0@mail.dvcentral.org>
At 09:54 AM 2/14/01 -0800, Robert wrote:
>My job is to monitor the forums and lists and report my findings back to
>Adobe. I can provide some limited technical support, but I agree that we
>need to address this issue. I will make them aware of this need.
Addressing this issue will assure you of lifetime employment at ADBE. I
have just received an email msg from ADBE, with the subject: "Adobe
Premiere 6.0 software is now shipping," despite having ordered and received
their upgrade months ago.
For your own sanity, I do not recommend touching the slippery subject of
European ADBE tech support.
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:32:09 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Tech support, required reading
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214143051.02b93c90@popserver.panix.com>
Are you one of the the 10 most dangerous species of help desk callers?
Read : http://www.techrepublic.com/article.jhtml?id=r00320010208dra02.htm
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:53:26 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID:
Now wouldn't it be something if ADBE and other companies would actually
use emails for something of real value to their customers--like
automatically notifying their customers of product issues as they became
known, and more importantly, of work around solutions as they were
found. I am not saying that their user forums, FAQ sections on web
sites, etc., etc., are not totally useless, but they would save their
customers huge amounts of time by automatically providing us with this
information regularly, that we could then file with our limited
documentation. I would also think that they would save huge amounts of
time for their tech support people solving the same problems over and
over again for customers. Oh, well, one can dream, huh? I appreciate
those companies like ViXen (our own Keith Johnson) and Baobab (our own
David Mowbray) that use email in this way.
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bertel Schmitt [mailto:bschmitt@dvcentral.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:25 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
At 09:54 AM 2/14/01 -0800, Robert wrote:
>My job is to monitor the forums and lists and report my findings back
to
>Adobe. I can provide some limited technical support, but I agree that
we
>need to address this issue. I will make them aware of this need.
Addressing this issue will assure you of lifetime employment at ADBE. I
have just received an email msg from ADBE, with the subject: "Adobe
Premiere 6.0 software is now shipping," despite having ordered and
received
their upgrade months ago.
For your own sanity, I do not recommend touching the slippery subject of
European ADBE tech support.
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:24:28 EST
From: Triglyph@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Cleaner & QT Related question: export from Premiere
Message-ID:
> My concern is how many people are going to take the
> time to download a 4 meg file and how many are going
> to have Quicktime players to see it. Also, should
> I consider getting the software
> to do the compression for the Real player? Was I
> nuts to even try it without Media Cleaner Pro?
I have a similar situation. I'm exporting short clips from Premiere 6.0 to
use on a CD and on a website. I've tried several combinations of Quicktime
and the results have been AWFUL, even when I select the highest level option.
Premiere does come with Cleaner EZ. I've pretty much blown my software
budget for the year already so I'm hoping to do this without upgrading to
Cleaner 5, if possible.
Would I do better with Quicktime Pro? Does it have anything I don't already
get from Premiere?
In any case, I must be doing something wrong. I didn't expect the first
tests to be perfect, but these are really bad. The main problem is the
fields don't seem in sync: they look like a frame exported to Photoshop before
you do "de-interlace." Any suggestions for what I might be doing wrong?
They look great in Premiere or when I export to DV and then to VHS.
I'm just looking to do 15 to 20 second clips at high quality. Not too
concerned about speed of download. The idea is to build a website that can
live not only on the internet, but also on a CD that I send out. I'm working
on a Mac, but people I send it to will have both Mac and Windows machines.
thanks,
blain
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:31:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SYNC IS SUNK !
Message-ID: <200102142031.OAA16255@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>Hey, can anyone figure this out ? I have a sequence I created in FCP,
>printed it out to a DV master on my DSR-20 deack. Everything's fine. But when
>I make a dub of the master from the DSR-20 deack to VHS machine, the
>resulting VHS copy is out of sync!
>thanks, Bill
What is a deack?
What do you mean by out-of-sync?
I have two DSR-20 decks and run firewire through them to VHS and/or play
tapes in either deck to the S-VHS deck that I make tapes on, all without
a hitch.
MB
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Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have
programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like
Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99]
Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN)
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:25:49 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214150952.035f8a10@popserver.panix.com>
At 12:53 PM 2/14/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Now wouldn't it be something if ADBE and other companies would actually
>use emails for something of real value to their customers--like
>automatically notifying their customers of product issues as they became
>known, and more importantly, of work around solutions as they were
>found.
It definitely would. Some (general) things to consider:
1.) Many register their product only after they had their first problem,and
only if tech support refuses to give support unless registered.
2.) Email needs to be "opt-in," because there will be more people shouting
"spam" than "thank you"
3.) I can imagine the endless discussions between Marketing and Tech Support.
Tech Support: "Users want e-mail notification of problems."
Marketing: "Cool idea. But won't we be waking sleeping dogs?"
Tech Support: "Uh-uh."
Marketing: "Won't we communicate the fact that our product is - perish
the thought - buggy?"
Tech Support: "Uh-uh."
Marketing: "But enough of that negative thinking. Let's go ahead and
test it. Would be great if it results in TS savings. We could need the
money in our marketing budget."
Tech Support: "Uh-uh. Come to think of it, sending out e-mails will
probably increase call volume, because people are now aware of the problem
and want more help."
Marketing: "Good thinking. Let's move on to the next item on the
agenda. We received quotes on the mouse-pads ...."
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:41:03 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <200102142041.OAA16544@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>I found out that on upgrading P6 was overlaying key P5.1 files on my system.
>P6 was not installing itself into a seperate direcftory from P5.1.
Whenever I install Adobe software, I ALWAYS put a new version in a new
path. In my case, it is c:\Adobe\Photoshop5.5, c:\Adobe\Photoshop6.0, etc.
That way the previous version is still there for use. I never put programs
like these into c:\ProgramFiles.
If you take the default path for the install, you WILL f**k up any previous
version. Thanks Adobe.
And you are right, Adobe tech support sucks. Access is too damn restrictive.
MB
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Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have
programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like
Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99]
Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN)
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:46:49 -0500
From: TV Middletown
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Tech support, required reading
Message-ID: <3A8AEEB8.6BAD5428@infinet.com>
Now - if someone will come up with a list of the 10 most dangerous species behind the help desk?
Saying this after spending the morning running round Robin Hood's barn trying to straighten out some PC problems at our studio............
Thanks for the laugh!
Barb LaPierre
TV Middletown / Channel 17
Middletown OH
Bertel Schmitt wrote:
> Are you one of the the 10 most dangerous species of help desk callers?
>
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:41:32 +0100
From: "Ton Guiking"
To:
Subject: Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
Message-ID: <017401c096c7$656bdd40$81a26dc2@default>
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: John Holmgren
>I have had NO virus problems since disabling scripting
>and ActiveX a year ago - and I don't miss them, either! They do nothing for
>me.
>
>My advice remains: disable Scripting and ActiveX in your network options.
>
I use Internet Explorer /Outlook Express. Can'f find these options, where do
I have to look?
Regards,
Ton Guiking
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:48:38 -0800
From: "Robert MacCaul"
To:
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID:
Actually we do have a Technical Announcement email list that is an option
for users. Currently it lists new technical guides that post on Adobe.com,
but I'm working on providing even more information about workarounds,
current issues that we are aware of, and other announcements.
To opt-in on this list visit: http://www.adobe.com/support/emaillist.html
Hope this helps.
rmaccaul@adobe.com
Web Community Specialist, Dynamic Media
Adobe Systems Incorporated
www.adobe.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bertel Schmitt [mailto:bschmitt@dvcentral.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:26 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
At 12:53 PM 2/14/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Now wouldn't it be something if ADBE and other companies would actually
>use emails for something of real value to their customers--like
>automatically notifying their customers of product issues as they became
>known, and more importantly, of work around solutions as they were
>found.
It definitely would. Some (general) things to consider:
1.) Many register their product only after they had their first problem,and
only if tech support refuses to give support unless registered.
2.) Email needs to be "opt-in," because there will be more people shouting
"spam" than "thank you"
3.) I can imagine the endless discussions between Marketing and Tech
Support.
Tech Support: "Users want e-mail notification of problems."
Marketing: "Cool idea. But won't we be waking sleeping dogs?"
Tech Support: "Uh-uh."
Marketing: "Won't we communicate the fact that our product is - perish
the thought - buggy?"
Tech Support: "Uh-uh."
Marketing: "But enough of that negative thinking. Let's go ahead and
test it. Would be great if it results in TS savings. We could need the
money in our marketing budget."
Tech Support: "Uh-uh. Come to think of it, sending out e-mails will
probably increase call volume, because people are now aware of the problem
and want more help."
Marketing: "Good thinking. Let's move on to the next item on the
agenda. We received quotes on the mouse-pads ...."
BS
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:23:44 -0800
From: Evan Robinson
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: SAT or Digital Cable
Message-ID:
At 11:28 AM -0800 on 2/13/01, Tyler A. Hawes wrote:
>I have a DISH subscription with the Model 6000 receiver. It cost me less
>than $300 after rebate to get this setup, which includes a standard DISH 500
>satellite dish, plus their HDTV dish, and the Model 6000 will receive HDTV
>signals from the DISH network for your HDTV-ready set. Right now HBO and
>ShowTime are offered in HDTV, plus there's an HDTV demo channel and an HDTV
>pay-per-view channel. They are gradually adding more channels.
>
>Also, for an additional $100 you can get the terrestrial receiver option
>card for the Model 6000 receiver, which will allow your DISH receiver to
>also receive/decode over-the-air HDTV from your local stations for your set.
>Basically, you then have both satellite and airwaves HDTV reception, perfect
>for anyone with an HDTV-ready set. Checkout DishUSA.com for purchase, or a
>local electronics store. You can probably get a deal on installation if you
>shop around.
Do be aware that severe weather (we had a pretty good cold front
through last weekend, including sleet and hail) can degrade or
destroy your reception if you have a digital dish. During the peak
of the storm (20 minutes or so) we had poor to terrible image quality.
evan
One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly
making exciting discoveries.
-- A.A. Milne
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:09:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SAT or Digital Cable
Message-ID: <200102142109.PAA17290@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>on 2/13/01 3:01 PM, Vidiot at brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com wrote:
>
>> Me, I am a BUD owner and proud of it. I get stuff that the pizzapan
>> thingies can never provide their viewer.
>>
>Care to list some of the pros and cons of BUD? Do you recommend it to new
>satellite users...??? Do tell!!!
1) All of the cable-channel type programming that is placed on the
PizzaPan dishes is obtained from the C-Band feeds. In many cases
the feeds are analog, i.e., no overly compressed MPEG-2. Otherwise
the feeds come from the C-Band DigicypherII feeds (otherwise known
as 4DTV), which are overly compressed MPEG-2. I personally do not have
a 4DTV unit, as the stuff that I need from HBO, Showtime, etc, are
all analog.
2) The biggest thing with C-Band, and even Ku-Band, are the free feeds.
You get to see network programming BEFORE it is seen on any U.S. network.
For example, Saturday morning one can see: Roswell, Futurama and The
Simpsons. Sunday morning one can see: Ally McBeal, Boston Public,
Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Malcolm in the Middle, X-Files and The Practice.
All of these shows are commercial free, no f***king network logos, and
they have the correct closing credits/music.
There are tons of syndicated shows that you get to see. They have
commercials, because they are meant for the U.S. market.
For a list of what is available, take a look at:
http://www.vidiot.com/Wildfeed.html
3) There are sports backhauls of college games (I'm not a sports watcher).
Monday Night Football is normally never scrambled, so you can see the
complete game, without commercials. Sometimes the mics are left open
and you can hear all kinds of stuff.
4) There are raw news feeds. Many of the SNG feeds are now via MPEG,
so an add-on box is needed to get those.
You will need a dish that is 9' or larger. I have a 10' and a 12', which
you can see a photo of in the above link.
The problems with big dishes are that new housing developments ban them.
They used to ban all dishes of any size, and outside antennas. But, the
law has made null-and-void those sections for any dish smaller that 3' and
outside antennas. So, those deed restrictions still apply to BUDs. I am
in an old section of town, before C-Band was even around. So, I don't
have that problem and got rea lucky with my southern view. Remmber,
the dish has to move.
C-Band IS the best for sky watchers. If you just want cable-from-the-sky,
then those pizza-pan dishes will work best for you.
MB
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Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99]
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------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:09:19 -0800
From: Jim Feeley
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: looking for "Basic Lighting for DV" video by John Jackman
Message-ID:
>Can anyone point me in the right direction to get this video in Canada?
>I believe John is on this list.
>
>Regards
>
>Stephan
There's a link to secure ordering for US and Canada here:
http://www.dv.com/store/lighting.html
Jim
-----------------------------------------
Jim Feeley 415-947-6256 phone
Senior Editor 415-947-6030 fax
Digital Video http://www.dv.com
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:11:04 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214160723.02b0f210@mail.dvcentral.org>
At 12:48 PM 2/14/01 -0800, Robert wrote:
>Actually we do have a Technical Announcement email list that is an option
>for users. Currently it lists new technical guides that post on Adobe.com,
>but I'm working on providing even more information about workarounds,
>current issues that we are aware of, and other announcements.
>To opt-in on this list visit: http://www.adobe.com/support/emaillist.html
Well, there you go, MB. Robert is reading your mind. And as a special
service, courtesy of DV-L, I have subscribed brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com to
Adobe's Prem & AE emails.
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:51:24 -0800
From: "John Holmgren"
To:
Subject: Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
Message-ID: <001301c096d0$4768fa40$8506aace@jh570>
They don't make it easy.
Starting from Outlook Express:
Tools...options...connection...change...security...custom level
Starting from IE:
Tools...internet options...security...custom level
Thence, disable everything ActiveX and scripting.
Usually, you don't have to worry about Java, but Javascript can present
problems, especially stealth connections to spy sites.
You probably won't miss anything. The only thing I've missed is the
Acrobat plugin, in which case I get a blank screen. So, I just use
the right button to save the PDF file and view it directly from Acrobat.
JH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ton Guiking"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Virus Alert - Creator Arrested
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: John Holmgren
> >I have had NO virus problems since disabling scripting
> >and ActiveX a year ago - and I don't miss them, either! They do nothing
for
> >me.
> >
> >My advice remains: disable Scripting and ActiveX in your network options.
> >
>
> I use Internet Explorer /Outlook Express. Can'f find these options, where
do
> I have to look?
> Regards,
> Ton Guiking
>
>
> ---(cut off when replying)-------------------
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:07:56 -0600
From: Bill Finch
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: How to obtain colors as seen in Gladiator/Ford Commercials
Message-ID: <3A8B01BB.544CCD5A@ix.netcom.com>
Color correction in film prep is all done in post. It's a very expensive
but magical process using optical, chemical and digital means. It is a
highly paid specialty.
If you want to see uncorrected film color rent a DVD of most recent
films. Most of them have a gag reel, or deleted scenes that are always
shown without color timing (as we ancients call the art). The difference
between raw footage and corrected color is amazing.
Bill
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:07:21 -0800
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <005e01c096d2$822cb340$3946989e@VIZION2000>
Thanks ---
It seems the drive to not provide email support is fear -- the fear that
support will get overloaded by too many emails..
Maybe emails support will provide an incentive to lessen the need for tech
support.. maybe they had too many emails in the past because P5.1. was
tooooooo flaky!!!
Certainly I am impressed by P6.00 -- and that from by a very cynical old
hand ---
It is v. different from 5.1 -- I have tested out all the old bugs and guess
what -- they are no longer there -- cool stuff
DE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert MacCaul"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
> I'm glad you were able to sort out your system. Yes it's true that you
need
> to install Premiere 6.0 into a separate directory.
>
> >I still wish Adobe had an email support line though.. I
> dread to think how anyone with neglible computer experience would have
> sorted out this one -- even though the cause was simple.>
> My job is to monitor the forums and lists and report my findings back to
> Adobe. I can provide some limited technical support, but I agree that we
> need to address this issue. I will make them aware of this need.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert MacCaul
>
> rmaccaul@adobe.com
> Web Community Specialist, Dynamic Media
> Adobe Systems Incorporated
> www.adobe.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vizion Communication [mailto:vizion@ixpres.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:21 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
>
>
> OK I nhave got to the bottom of this one.
>
> I found out that on upgrading P6 was overlaying key P5.1 files on my
system.
> P6 was not installing itself into a seperate direcftory from P5.1.
>
> Once I realised what was happening the cure was simple (once I had also
> sorted out the registry!!)
>
> All works fine -- I still wish Adobe had an email support line though.. I
> dread to think how anyone with neglible computer experience would have
> sorted out this one -- even though the cause was simple. It seems as
though
> the Installation and deinstall scripts are a bit lightweight --
>
> DE
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: " Vizion Communication"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:56 AM
> Subject: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
>
>
> > I am currently travelling around Europe doing my stuff and have a
serious
> > problem with P6 which I cant seem to sort out. Adobe have not yet learnt
> > that people, in this day and age, do need an email service for Tech
> support.
> >
> > I mean when you try and phone tech support and the only way they can
offer
> > to support you is by phonng back and you are on location and travelling
> > through a number different European countries -- what other method ofr
> > reliable contact is there but Email?? Do they not realise that holding
on
> > for Tech support is not a financially viable option when you are paying
> > international call charges.. and what is the point of calling another
call
> > centre when they do not speak English!!!
> >
> > Here is the story - I got back to Ca in late January from Europe with my
> > 500MHZ laptop - ready to upgrade from P5.1c and open that parcel from
> Adobe
> > with the long awaited P6!!
> >
> > But before a tear the wrappers off I think a bit (glad I did -- it can
be
> a
> > rare occurence!!)
> >
> > I could do with an extra drive and my system needs upgrading from Win 98
> to
> > Win 2K. So I order another 25G drive which does not arrive until I have
to
> > fly off again for another European based project.
> >
> > Last week I get some free time and start the process. I upgrade the
> existing
> > drive to Win 2k and P5.1c still works perfectly on the upgraded O/S.
That
> is
> > a good start. However I decided to play safe and not upgrade to P6
> straight
> > away. I partition the new drive to give me 3 small primary partitions -
a
> > small one for Win 98, a partition for FreeBSD Unix and one for Linux
plus
> a
> > large extended partion within which there are three logical partitions.
> The
> > first, 1.6G for the Win 2K O/S formatted NTFS, the second 6G for
> programmes
> > formatted Fat 32 and the last for Data formated NTFS. I install Win 2k
and
> > that works fine. Then I install my Adobe applications. Acrobate,
> Photoshop,
> > Indesign, After Effects production bundle, Premiere 5.1c. All seem to be
> > working fine. Then I install the upgrade to P6 and disaster strikes.
> >
> > First neither P6 nor P5.1c will load -- the initial load screen appears
> > along with all the credits and then nothing!! Now the problems start - I
> try
> > to Uninstall P5 (wondering whether some sort of clash is occuring and
the
> > Uninstall bogs out entirley saying it cannot find the Premiere.exe file.
I
> > do the same with with P6 and the problem gets worse.
> >
> > So I try and uninstall AE production bundle and that will not uninstall
> > either.
> >
> > To cut a long story short I eventually get rid of both P6 and P5.1 but
> am,
> > at this point, uncertain whether I have got rid of all the files.
> >
> > I reinstall 5.1 and it works. I upgrade again and neither works. Neither
> > does the Uninstall uninstall properly.
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? By the way I do have
MS
> > Visual Studio 6 installed and the Win 2K resource kit.
> >
> > I mean I still have 5.1(c) and all the other Adobe Applications working
on
> > my original drive -- so I guess it is not a hardware problem. I guess it
> > could well be some kind of driver problem. It looks as though the
> Uninstall
> > scripts get ****** up by the upgrade process. It would be useful if I
> could
> > find out if I could get back to a bare system. I suppose I could
reinstall
> > Win 2k and start all over again. However that means a whole day of
> messing
> > about and I do not want to start without some advice.
> >
> > By the way will the upgrade install without pre-installing P5? I have
not
> > tried that route?
> >
> > DE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---(cut off when replying)-------------------
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:10:03 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Subject: Tech and customer support (was: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!)
Message-ID:
Thanks, Robert! In my opinion, this IS a step in the right direction and
I have taken advantage of it for some time. But it would be still nicer
to be able to "opt-in" to automatically receive all of these without
having to request each one individually. Finally, I wholeheartedly
support the idea of tech support via email.
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert MacCaul [mailto:rmaccaul@Adobe.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:49 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Actually we do have a Technical Announcement email list that is an
option
for users. Currently it lists new technical guides that post on
Adobe.com,
but I'm working on providing even more information about workarounds,
current issues that we are aware of, and other announcements.
To opt-in on this list visit:
http://www.adobe.com/support/emaillist.html
Hope this helps.
rmaccaul@adobe.com
Web Community Specialist, Dynamic Media
Adobe Systems Incorporated
www.adobe.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:29:20 -0500
From: "David Israel"
To:
Subject: Antec's TVator
Message-ID:
Hi--
I've lately become aware of an inexpensive scan converter,
the "TVator EXEC" from Antec, vide:
http://www.antec-inc.com/product/tv_pc_converter/tvexe.html
At only $89, I'm tempted to give it a try. It boasts zoom & pan
features and "sharpness control" features. My plan would be
to use it for certain experimental recording-what's-on-the-screen
projects (for that cinema verite guy-at-the-keyboard sort of thing).
I know scan converters can range in price up to several hundred
bucks at least. The spec sheet says (among else), "Supports
Composite/S-video/Scart RGB video output". I think S-video would
be fine for my purposes.
Any particular caveats about this newish gizmo?
w/ thanks,
David
(Washington, DC)
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:36:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SAT or Digital Cable
Message-ID: <200102142236.QAA18335@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>Do be aware that severe weather (we had a pretty good cold front
>through last weekend, including sleet and hail) can degrade or
>destroy your reception if you have a digital dish. During the peak
>of the storm (20 minutes or so) we had poor to terrible image quality.
> evan
Technical correction....
Being digital has nothing to do with poor reception during storms.
The problem has to do with the fact that they are using Ku band
frequencies. Those wavelengths are about the size of water molecules.
The water molecules absorb the microwave energy, leaving nothing to
hit the dish. If there is a snowstorm, or rainstorm, in my area,
I'll lose analog Ku band reception. But, because there isn't much I watch
on Ku band, it doesn't bother me.
C-Band, on the other hand, uses a larger wavelength. So it takes a
really, really, heavy downpoor before I start to lose C-Band reception.
So, if you have a 4DTV IRD, you'll still have digital reception with it
during lousy storms.
MB
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:39:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <200102142239.QAA18397@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>At 12:48 PM 2/14/01 -0800, Robert wrote:
>>Actually we do have a Technical Announcement email list that is an option
>>for users. Currently it lists new technical guides that post on Adobe.com,
>>but I'm working on providing even more information about workarounds,
>>current issues that we are aware of, and other announcements.
>>To opt-in on this list visit: http://www.adobe.com/support/emaillist.html
>
>Well, there you go, MB. Robert is reading your mind. And as a special
>service, courtesy of DV-L, I have subscribed brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com to
>Adobe's Prem & AE emails.
Sounds like a security hole if BS can get me on the mail lists. BTW, I
don't have AE. But I do have Prem, AI and PS.
MB
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:45:05 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214174034.027e5230@mail.dvcentral.org>
At 04:39 PM 2/14/01 -0600, MB wrote:
>Sounds like a security hole if BS can get me on the mail lists. BTW, I
>don't have AE. But I do have Prem, AI and PS.
Ah, the sweet smell of conspiracy!
But don't despair: Any dork (such as moi) can get you on their lists. But
you have to confirm. When doing so, I suggest making the necessary
adjustments yourself.
BS
PS: No AE? What's this world coming to ....
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:54:28 -0400
From: Curran Jensen
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SYNC IS SUNK !
Message-ID: <3A8B0CA4.8F63A428@stfx.ca>
>>What is a deack?
c'mon thats pretty petty...
Curran
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:00:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <200102142300.RAA18648@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>At 04:39 PM 2/14/01 -0600, MB wrote:
>>Sounds like a security hole if BS can get me on the mail lists. BTW, I
>>don't have AE. But I do have Prem, AI and PS.
>
>Ah, the sweet smell of conspiracy!
>
>But don't despair: Any dork (such as moi) can get you on their lists. But
>you have to confirm. When doing so, I suggest making the necessary
>adjustments yourself.
I kinda figured that, but there wasn't any confirmation e-mail sitting in
my mailbox... still isn't.
>PS: No AE? What's this world coming to ....
I've not had a need for it.
MB
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Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99]
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------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:04:18 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SYNC IS SUNK !
Message-ID: <200102142304.RAA18725@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>>>What is a deack?
>
>c'mon thats pretty petty...
>
>Curran
But it was done twice, so I know it wasn't a slip of the finger. :-)
At least I'm trying to help the guy, as soon as we get more information
about the problem. The DSR-20s are great decks. While they do have
sync-sep problems while locking onto any field to build a frame, I've
not had any kind of audio/video sync problems, if that is the problem
the poster is talking about.
I'm awaiting more info about the problem.
MB
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Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN)
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:12:18 -0800 (PST)
From: "Joel W. Smit"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: OT: Pentium 233mmx didn't work out
Message-ID: <20010214231218.6967.qmail@web5303.mail.yahoo.com>
For the curious and the helpful-- I had to remove the
233mmx cpu from my system. I dug up a reference book
and it pointed out the mmx chips run a dual voltage
2.8/3.3v.
Windows media player caused stack dumps with this
chip, funny voltages I guess, and well it just won't
work out. Dont try this at home.
Anybody wanna trade a Pentium Classic 200MHz for a
still good Pentium 233 MMX? : ^(
Joel Dubya
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:55:11 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: OT: Pentium 233mmx didn't work out
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214185042.009dd010@mail.dvcentral.org>
At 03:12 PM 2/14/01 -0800, Joel wrote:
>For the curious and the helpful-- I had to remove the
>233mmx cpu from my system. I dug up a reference book
>and it pointed out the mmx chips run a dual voltage
>2.8/3.3v.
Could you please retire this system? Or send it to Boston, home of the
world famous computer museum ....
BS
PS: If you want to know why the semiconductor industry is going through a
slump, look at people like Joel W. ... isn't there an annual quota on CPU
purchases?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:25:21 -0000
From: "helge fan"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: please help!!
Message-ID:
After reading the list silently for a while and learned a lot a stumbled
into a problem that someone hopefully can help me with.
I got my first editing job. I got a scene shot on dv that need editing.
The editing is not a problem.
I'm using premiere. Used it a lot on my own projects.
Problem!
eqipment:
working pc with firewire
Sony DSR 20P - borrowed -
The DV tape I received is supposed to contain an interview with the sound in
12b stereo used with microphone. And then they just the internal mic for
backup at the same time. Is that possible? They used a XL1.
They would like to use the sound from the external mic. How do I seperate
this? I'm not that familiar with dv vcr but there is two outputs on the back
. channel 1/3 and 2/4. Which one should I use?
How do I make sure the internal sound doesn't get captured?
Question 2.
The would like the output to be with seperate sound .. the effects and music
should be on 1 and the voice on 1 so they can make a dub for foreign sales.
Who do I output that in premiere?? is it possible?
I really need an answer on this questions and I'm grateful for any help I
can get from the list.
please answer on the list or privately
best
Anders
Sweden
This is probably very easy for someone but since this is my first paid job I
don't wanna look stupid and ask the customer :-)
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:56:21 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: please help!!
Message-ID: <200102150056.SAA20546@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>
>After reading the list silently for a while and learned a lot a stumbled
>into a problem that someone hopefully can help me with.
>
>I got my first editing job. I got a scene shot on dv that need editing.
>The editing is not a problem.
>I'm using premiere. Used it a lot on my own projects.
>
>Problem!
>
>eqipment:
>working pc with firewire
>Sony DSR 20P - borrowed -
>
>The DV tape I received is supposed to contain an interview with the sound in
>12b stereo used with microphone. And then they just the internal mic for
>backup at the same time. Is that possible? They used a XL1.
With 12 bit audio, there are four available audio channels, so yes, it is
possible.
>They would like to use the sound from the external mic. How do I seperate
>this? I'm not that familiar with dv vcr but there is two outputs on the back
>. channel 1/3 and 2/4. Which one should I use?
>How do I make sure the internal sound doesn't get captured?
Herein lies the problem. Forget the audio jacks on the deck, since they are
not used during firewire transfer.
Firewire transfer to the computer will ONLY contain two audio channels.
I believe they will be from channels 1 and 2. If they recorded the external
mics on channels 1 and 2, you'll be fine. If the internals are on 1 and 2,
you are screwed.
>Question 2.
>The would like the output to be with seperate sound .. the effects and music
>should be on 1 and the voice on 1 so they can make a dub for foreign sales.
>Who do I output that in premiere?? is it possible?
Um, you can't have M&E on channel 1 and Dialog on channel 1 as well.
Normally, it is full audio on 1 and 2, i.e., M&E & Dialog, with M&E on 3 and 4.
Unfortunately, Premiere does not support 4 channel audio. That is a real
bad drawback. You can only use channels 1 and 2.
If you do this as a mono production, you can put Dialog/M&E in 1 and mono
M&E in 2.
You can mix many channels of audio in Premiere, but they can only be set
to work with channels 1 and 2 in the final output.
>I really need an answer on this questions and I'm grateful for any help I
>can get from the list.
>
>best
>Anders
>Sweden
As mentione, someone can varify which of the four audio channels are
transferred to the computer over firewire.
MB
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:57:20 -0800
From: Michael Bender
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Color Timing
Message-ID: <3A8B2970.745E5300@eng.sun.com>
Bill Finch wrote:
> If you want to see uncorrected film color rent a DVD of most recent
> films. Most of them have a gag reel, or deleted scenes that are always
> shown without color timing (as we ancients call the art). The difference
> between raw footage and corrected color is amazing.
What is the origin of the term "color timing"?
mike
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:04:43 -0800
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: please help!!
Message-ID:
At 6:56 pm -0600 14/2/01, Vidiot wrote:
>
>As mentione, someone can varify which of the four audio channels are
>transferred to the computer over firewire.
On the Mac , you get to choose which.
I expect there is a pref on Windows too.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:25:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: please help!!
Message-ID: <200102150125.TAA20758@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>At 6:56 pm -0600 14/2/01, Vidiot wrote:
>>
>>As mentione, someone can varify which of the four audio channels are
>>transferred to the computer over firewire.
>
>On the Mac , you get to choose which.
>I expect there is a pref on Windows too.
Not with Premiere 5.1c, since I doesn't do firewire natively. I have the
Digital Origin MotoDV drivers and plugin and you don't get a choice.
Even then, Premiere doesn't support 4-ch audio, so he can't put out
separate stereo M&E on 3/4 and Dialog/stereo M&E on 1/2.
He'd have to cut two tapes if he wanted to keep stereo.
MB
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:54:54 -0600
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: please help!!
Message-ID: <068C168376FFD411A6E100805F19999233FC80@misnts1.dalsemi.com>
Anders said, in part:
>They used a XL1. They would like to use the sound from the
>external mic. How do I seperate this?
Can you borrow or rent an XL1? With it, you can get out any
channels you want.
-Rik.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 04:38:04 -0500
From: Bob Andersen
To: "DV-L@DVCentral.org"
Subject: compare PC110 vs. PC100
Message-ID: <3A8A51FB.A62F3953@mindspring.com>
Are there any sites that compare these two sony cameras? Can anyone
list the differences?
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:27:47 -0700
From: bron barry
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: new member question
Message-ID: <20010215.192747.-222459.1.bronbarry@juno.com>
hi
i'm using a siig 1394 3 port on my new computer with adobe premiere
5.0 and i can't get the firewire to act as a capture device.
i tried changing all the settings but nothing.... am i supposed to have
a special plug in ? or driver ??
thanks for any help
bron
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:33:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: new member question
Message-ID: <200102150233.UAA21250@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>
>hi
>i'm using a siig 1394 3 port on my new computer with adobe premiere
>5.0 and i can't get the firewire to act as a capture device.
>
>i tried changing all the settings but nothing.... am i supposed to have
>a special plug in ? or driver ??
Correct. Premiere 5.1c (you did upgrade didn't you) does not do native
DV capture. You need third party tools/drivers/plugins.
If you upgrade to Premiere 6.0, it will do capture.
MB
>thanks for any help
>bron
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:42:56 -0700
From: bron barry
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: new member question
Message-ID: <20010215.194256.-222459.4.bronbarry@juno.com>
thanks for the help.
any idea where i could get a plug in or driver maybe the siig.com
website? my internet is down at the moment........ figures.
bron
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:33:46 -0600 (CST) Vidiot
writes:
> >
> >hi
> >i'm using a siig 1394 3 port on my new computer with adobe
> premiere
> >5.0 and i can't get the firewire to act as a capture device.
> >
> >i tried changing all the settings but nothing.... am i supposed to
> have
> >a special plug in ? or driver ??
>
> Correct. Premiere 5.1c (you did upgrade didn't you) does not do
> native
> DV capture. You need third party tools/drivers/plugins.
>
> If you upgrade to Premiere 6.0, it will do capture.
>
> MB
>
>
>
> >thanks for any help
> >bron
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:32:02 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: new member question
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214213122.03948210@mail.dvcentral.org>
At 07:27 PM 2/15/01 -0700, Bron wrote:
>i tried changing all the settings but nothing.... am i supposed to have
>a special plug in ? or driver ??
Upgrade to Prem 6. And you'll be in DV heaven.
BS
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:49:02 -0700
From: bron barry
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: new member question
Message-ID: <20010215.194902.-222459.6.bronbarry@juno.com>
hahahah,
will i be able to send video thru the firewire as well ???
because right now i have a project in the computer and i have no way of
getting it out.
oops
bron
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:32:02 -0500 Bertel Schmitt
writes:
> At 07:27 PM 2/15/01 -0700, Bron wrote:
> >i tried changing all the settings but nothing.... am i supposed to
> have
> >a special plug in ? or driver ??
>
>
> Upgrade to Prem 6. And you'll be in DV heaven.
>
> BS
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:56:49 -0600
From: "jason clark"
To:
Subject: Steadicam Vs. Glidecam
Message-ID: <000701c096fa$f21c3860$cd060cd1@Jason1>
Hi, I'm using a Sony PD-150 and i'm seriously thinking about investing in
some kind of stabilization device. I was wondering which is the better rig
for the buck: DV steadicam or the Glidecam equivalent? Thanks.
Jason Clark
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:57:04 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: new member question
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010214215127.03d1c5d0@mail.dvcentral.org>
At 07:49 PM 2/15/01 -0700, Bron wrote:
>hahahah,
>will i be able to send video thru the firewire as well ???
>because right now i have a project in the computer and i have no way of
>getting it out.
Yes. Unless you have an European camcorder. I recommend getting some
education on 1394 equipment. The humor factor will go down, but results
will increase.
BS
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:19:04 -0800
From: "Vince Dunham"
To:
Subject: Re: Color Timing
Message-ID: <005901c096fe$0f3eb000$8c14a8c0@terran.com>
>>What is the origin of the term "color timing"?
>>asks Michael Bender E-Mail:
Michael.Bender@eng.sun.com
I couldnt find one in my docs.
I know ILM provides the service. ( Amongst all the other big Post-Prod
boys)
I think a recent Post mag got into this as well.
Try researching at:
http://postmagazine.com/
They have a pretty good search facility.
Vince,
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:27:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Charos
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Apple's superdrive
Message-ID: <20010215032721.38060.qmail@web9614.mail.yahoo.com>
Will this list be the same for the Compaq system? Will
it be the same for the OEM/consumer version?
Thanks for the post. Interesting, seems like a pretty
good list for me. The units are really cheap now, so I
suspect people will be buying the compatible versions,
if the content is good enough.
Another porno flood on the market? Oy!
If you just master on this, then take it to a
duplicator they duplicate it (ok, not directly, but
through a HD buffer), what difference does it make for
the project intended to small-large duplication?
I think that is pretty cool of Apple to print this
list. Thanks, Apple.
- Bill Carpenter
Athena Productions
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:31:38 -0800
From: Charles F. McConathy
To:
Subject: Re: Steadicam Vs. Glidecam
Message-ID: <1010214193145.c0c156.3f774447.ASIP6.3.1.946884@mail.promax.com>
jason clark Wrote
>Hi, I'm using a Sony PD-150 and i'm seriously thinking about investing in
>some kind of stabilization device. I was wondering which is the better rig
>for the buck: DV steadicam or the Glidecam equivalent? Thanks.
>
>
>Jason Clark
>
How about a SteadyTracker from ProMax. See our web page for information
and a movie on how to use them. They work and easy to use and cost
effective.
Charles F. McConathy, President
ProMax Systems, Inc. - 16 Technology Drive #106 - Irvine, CA 92618
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:19:52 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Adobe P6 -Weird flaky stuff - No starts & crashing .- Help!
Message-ID: <3A8B58E8.FBC35F35@maui.net>
Robert MacCaul wrote:
> Actually we do have a Technical Announcement email list that is an option
> for users. Currently it lists new technical guides that post on Adobe.com,
> but I'm working on providing even more information about workarounds,
> current issues that we are aware of, and other announcements.
> To opt-in on this list visit: http://www.adobe.com/support/emaillist.html
>
Robert, I'm interested in subscribing to the above emaillist but when I go to the page I can read the form to fill out OK but all the text explaining about the list above and below the form
I see only as question marks. I use Netscape Browser 4.61.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:16:23 -0500
From: Gary Bettan
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Canpous DV STrom Upgrade Rebates
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010214231456.00cb6c10@pop3.cris.com>
Here it is folks, effective February 15th:
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:30:17 -0500
From: Gary Bettan
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RT2000 MegaPack 3 coming soon!!
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010214232924.00cb7100@pop3.cris.com>
Matrox is very excited to let you know that a new version of the
MEGA Pack software, which brings Windows 2000 support to the RT2000,
will be made available as a Preview Release (Open Beta) to all registered
RT2000 users on our website this coming Monday, February 19th.
In the meantime, here are a few details about some of the new features
that MEGA Pack 3.0 will bring to the RT2000.
Windows 2000 Support
-----------------------
MEGA Pack 3.0 supports Windows 2000, which allows you to take advantage of
dual-processing power, critical in those times in which you want to use
software-based effects within Adobe Premiere. Windows 2000 features
superior network management -- ideal in environments for when you need to
share and distribute video files to many systems, such as the
classroom setting. The Windows 2000 NTFS file structure brings you
better file management, unlimited file sizes, and full video file
compatibility with Matrox DigiSuite LX and DigiSuite DTV.
More realtime Flex3D effects
-----------------------
* You now have the ability to use over 60 of Adobe Premiere's native
transition effects in real time. This means that the effects that you
were accustomed to rendering for many years, can now be played back
in real time! You don't need to learn how to use new effects -- just
drag-and-drop as usual. With the addition of this feature, Matrox
RT2000 becomes the first non-linear editing system to support such
an extensive set of Adobe Premiere's features in real time.
* Realtime 3D tiles are now available as filters, giving you even
more creative flexibility with this unique class of effects.
* Realtime keyframeable cropping can now be applied to all Matrox video
effects in real time. For example, you can apply a distortion effect
to only a small area of the screen, and dynamically position this
blurred area to hide someone's face.
* Realtime keyframeable colorization lets you to adjust the brightness,
contrast, and the red, green, blue, and alpha components, or
create the negative image of a clip in real time. Create special
effects like sepia toning, purple haze, or simulate life on the
planet Mars.
Widescreen 16:9 Editing
-----------------------
Widescreen video can be captured, edited, and output in 16:9 format.
If you want to display widescreen 16:9 footage on a standard 4:3
screen, you can use a keyframeable 2D DVE to position your footage
so that the area of interest is in the center of the screen, as is
done with Pan & Scan.
Matrox MediaTools
-----------------
Matrox MediaTools is a robust, fully-featured DV capture application
that allows you to perform automatic, unattended DV tape scanning
and batch capture. Because Matrox MediaTools is fully automated,
you can save hours and hours of tedious logging and capturing time
that you can instead dedicate to editing. With MediaTools you can:
* Automatically scan the entire DV tape and create a batch capture
list of scenes.
* Automatically scan and capture clips to disk from a DV tape.
* Recapture clips from a batch capture list at a later time, delete
clips on disk, or manually adjust the In and Out points of each item
prior to capturing.
* Export the entire contents of the batch capture list directly into
an Adobe Premiere project.
* Grab single-frame TGA images and AVI clips, to create photo montage
sequences. With single-frame AVI clips, you can apply realtime
effects to your stills without requiring file conversions, and
without the need to render.
* Use VTR functions to quickly and easily view clips stored on your
hard disk, or to control your video camera.
Enhanced Adobe Premiere 6.0 Support
--------------------------
Major new productivity features you'll enjoy with Adobe Premiere
6.0 on Matrox RT2000 include:
* A professional, multichannel audio mixer and VU meters that
can be used to control audio levels as your watch your
synchronized video.
* The ability to drag-and-drop all video effects directly onto
clips and edit them with a single click. This brings quick and
convenient control over all aspect of your video effects,
including all Matrox realtime plug-ins.
* Enhanced web output support so you can produce streamable
versions of your finished projects more quickly, directly from
the Adobe Premiere Timeline.
Other Product Enhancements
---------------------------
A new memory architecture has been implemented that will allow
users with systems limited to 64 MB of AGP aperture to benefit
from ALL of the RT2000 features, including exporting to MPEG2-IBP.
With Matrox RT2000 MEGA Pack 3.0, your editing experience is
even more pleasurable with rock-solid and dependable software
that is compatible with a greater number of DV and analog devices.
Our biggest concern when we created this 3.0 software update was to
bring the RT2000 to a level of stability and functionality that has no
equivalent in this price range on the market and we believe that this has
been achieved with MEGA Pack 3.0. We are now very anxious to let you
try this Preview Release and give you the opportunity to help us iron out
the few remaining issues before the final 3.0 release.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:12:34 -0500
From: "Dany Coryet"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Cleaner & QT Related question: export from Premiere
Message-ID:
DON't even use cleaner.....DO DO THE FOLLOWING
Render your movie using the PREMIERE 6
EXPORT TIMELINE OPTION
Export a Quicktime Movie
Use a 10 frame per second setting (or 12 if the MAC has it)
if the 15fps I suggested last time you posted doesn't work.
Make sure to flatten the movie and only use cinepak as the export codec
this way windows and mac users can both see the clip without new software
MAKE SURE THE AUDIO is 44KHZ and with every 1/2 second of render..
to make the clip easier to play use 22KHZ but stick to 16bit audio for
better quality!
THEN ;
USE the slider to say HIGH QUALITY 100%---keep this full quality-but
but if the clips still play difficultly
---LIMIT THE DATA RATE of the clip..
Experimentation will show you whether the figure for you is 700KBS per sec
or only 400KB per fram..
Please let us know about your results..
The only other thing I can suggest is trying MPEG-1 output from Terran EZ
pro Cleaner (part of Prem 6--select SAVE for WEB).
Those users with Macs older than Quick TIME 4...will not be able to play
MPEG, however...so this is probably no good for you!
> > My concern is how many people are going to take the
> > time to download a 4 meg file and how many are going
> > to have Quicktime players to see it. Also, should
> > I consider getting the software
> > to do the compression for the Real player? Was I
> > nuts to even try it without Media Cleaner Pro?
>
>I have a similar situation. I'm exporting short clips from Premiere 6.0 to
>use on a CD and on a website. I've tried several combinations of Quicktime
>and the results have been AWFUL, even when I select the highest level
>option.
> Premiere does come with Cleaner EZ. I've pretty much blown my software
>budget for the year already so I'm hoping to do this without upgrading to
>Cleaner 5, if possible.
>
>Would I do better with Quicktime Pro? Does it have anything I don't already
>get from Premiere?
>
>In any case, I must be doing something wrong. I didn't expect the first
>tests to be perfect, but these are really bad. The main problem is the
>fields don't seem in sync: they look like a frame exported to Photoshop
>before
> you do "de-interlace." Any suggestions for what I might be doing wrong?
>They look great in Premiere or when I export to DV and then to VHS.
>
>I'm just looking to do 15 to 20 second clips at high quality. Not too
>concerned about speed of download. The idea is to build a website that can
>live not only on the internet, but also on a CD that I send out. I'm
>working
>on a Mac, but people I send it to will have both Mac and Windows machines.
>
>thanks,
>
>blain
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:15:25 -0800
From: Eric Bin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Cleaner & QT Related question: export from Premiere
Message-ID: <3A8B73FD.982DC037@telus.net>
Triglyph@aol.com wrote:
> > to have Quicktime players to see it. Also, should
> > I consider getting the software
> > to do the compression for the Real player? Was I
> > nuts to even try it without Media Cleaner Pro?
>
> I have a similar situation. I'm exporting short clips from Premiere 6.0 to
> use on a CD and on a website. I've tried several combinations of Quicktime
> and the results have been AWFUL, even when I select the highest level option.
> Premiere does come with Cleaner EZ. I've pretty much blown my software
> budget for the year already so I'm hoping to do this without upgrading to
> Cleaner 5, if possible.
> Would I do better with Quicktime Pro? Does it have anything I don't already
> get from Premiere?
QT Pro doesn't offer anything over what Premiere does (at least in this
respect).
> In any case, I must be doing something wrong. I didn't expect the first
> tests to be perfect, but these are really bad. The main problem is the
> fields don't seem in sync: they look like a frame exported to Photoshop before
> you do "de-interlace." Any suggestions for what I might be doing wrong?
> They look great in Premiere or when I export to DV and then to VHS.
Haven't used CleanerEZ so I can't speak to what controls it offers but I
highly recommend Media Cleaner or Cleaner and the Sorenson Pro video
codec and the QDesign Music Pro codec as well. It's not cheap but if
you want the best quality stuff this is what you need.
Sorenson is definitely a tougher codec to compress with than Real or
WiMP but with a some effort you can be turning out great looking work -
witness the Monsters Inc. trailer done by Apple's Doug Werner, you can
see all the little hairs!!
A few simple tips I can offer without seeing your videos:
1. Turn down the fps to 15 or even 10fps.
2. Assuming medium movement video the minimum data rate for a 320x240 is
around 200kbps, 240x180 breaks up around half that.
3. Double-sizing is king - if you have Sorenson Pro and Cleaner4/5 then
double size right off the bat, most users will not notice.
4. Apply a .3-.5 blur to your material.
5. Turn your levels down as well as your contrast. Mushy grey video
compresses real nice (think romantic comedies about elephants).
6. If you don't have Sorenson Pro have keyframes every 5 seconds or so.
hope that helps,
P.S. For an example of acceptable low bandwidth streaming QT plug the
following URL into QT: rtsp://qt1.bopjet.net/bopjet/geek56k.mov
It's a 56k stream compressed with Sorenson Pro and QDesign Basic done on
the first try.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:27:44 -0500
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: Big RT2000 News
Message-ID: <000201c09718$68723ba0$4423a8c0@dell420me>
Windows 2000 support including 2GB+ file sizes, Real-Time Color Correction,
New Batch Capture, Full Premiere 6.0 support with Real-Time support for 60
Filters, and much more coming in Public Beta 2/19.
If it's stable and not too quirky, looks like what I've been waiting for.
Complete news at:
http://forum.matrox.com/rt2000/Forum12/HTML/000041.html
stephen
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:40:14 -0800
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: OT: Pentium 233mmx didn't work out
Message-ID: <003101c0971a$271f9920$0400a8c0@charterpipeline.com>
admitting you hae a 233 mmx cpu is like having and aol e-mail address.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bertel Schmitt
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Pentium 233mmx didn't work out
> At 03:12 PM 2/14/01 -0800, Joel wrote:
> >For the curious and the helpful-- I had to remove the
> >233mmx cpu from my system. I dug up a reference book
> >and it pointed out the mmx chips run a dual voltage
> >2.8/3.3v.
>
>
> Could you please retire this system? Or send it to Boston, home of the
> world famous computer museum ....
>
> BS
>
> PS: If you want to know why the semiconductor industry is going through a
> slump, look at people like Joel W. ... isn't there an annual quota on CPU
> purchases?
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:47:21 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: please help!!
Message-ID: <3A8B7B79.DF30C63E@maui.net>
Vidiot wrote:
> Firewire transfer to the computer will ONLY contain two audio channels.
> I believe they will be from channels 1 and 2. If they recorded the external
> mics on channels 1 and 2, you'll be fine. If the internals are on 1 and 2,
> you are screwed.
>
Over firewire Canopus cards and software (Raptor, Rex, and DVStorm) have the capability to capture channels 1 and 2 with the picture track and at the same time capture channels 3 and 4 as a
separate WAV file.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:59:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: please help!!
Message-ID: <200102150659.AAA23245@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>Vidiot wrote:
>
>> Firewire transfer to the computer will ONLY contain two audio channels.
>> I believe they will be from channels 1 and 2. If they recorded the external
>> mics on channels 1 and 2, you'll be fine. If the internals are on 1 and 2,
>> you are screwed.
>>
>
>Over firewire Canopus cards and software (Raptor, Rex, and DVStorm) have the capability to capture channels 1 and 2 with the picture track and at the same time capture channels 3 and 4 as a
>separate WAV file.
As I mentioned, with Premiere and Digitial Origin MotoDV drivers, it will only
do channels 1 and 2.
Looks like the poster will have to spend some money.
BTW, it seems he needs to do four channels out as well.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:25:38 +0100
From: "LRTV"
To:
Subject: SV: Steadicam Vs. Glidecam
Message-ID:
Hi Jason,
PD150 is a bit heavy to do "steady-shots" handheld.
Especially when using wideadaptor/wirelessaudio/
mattebox and so on.
Don't count on doing to long scenes, your arm will
get REALLY tired after just a couple of minutes,
even 50 seconds will feel "not that good" (depending
on the size of your biceps muscle). The sad part for
handheld is that the heavier the rig gets, the better
result in stabilisation (easier to handle as far as
smooth pictures, your bicep muscle may dissagree).
If you want real steady shots go for Glidecam V-8
or any other vest/stringarm system, much better.
Cheers,
Robert Lindqvist
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 03:44:03 -0500
From: Keith
To:
Subject: Re: How to obtain colors as seen in Gladiator/Ford Commercials
Message-ID:
On 2/14/01 5:07 PM, Bill Finch got kicked off a skyscraper and screamed:
> The difference between raw footage and corrected color is amazing.
Um... hate to sound completely clueless here, but what is color correction
and why is it needed? I do understand that sometimes a digital file may not
be what you need (for whatever reasons) and that therefore you need to
adjust the hue, saturation etc. But this doesn't sound like what you guys
have been talking about.
Keith
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