DV-L Tue, 20 Feb 2001 Volume 1 : Number 772
In this issue:
Re: Problem with Timex Sinclair
Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
RE: New Panasonic DVC200 pdf
RE: New Panasonic DVC200 pdf
Re: Asus A7V133 mother
Re: lightmeters
Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Re: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking?
Re: Mini DV vs DVCam tapes in Sony PD100a and GV-D900
Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Re: Mini DV vs DVCam tapes in Sony PD100a and GV-D900
Re: How to do DV-L
Re: How to do DV-L
Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Re: lightmeters
RE: Steadicam Vs. Glidecam
Re: VHS lousy quality
Re: New Panasonic DVC200 pdf
Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
Info 0.65X Wide Angle Lens.
RE: How to do DV-L
Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
RE: Asus A7V133 mother
Batch captrue timecode problem in FCP
DVRaptor and Premiere 6 - What is the consensus?
viewcd making software & tech info . REQUEST
FW: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
opinions please?
RE: opinions please?
Re: QT than 25 fr/sec..mr kevinmarks info please
Best performance out of PCI IDE card
Re: Best performance out of PCI IDE card
Re: Batch captrue timecode problem in FCP
Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
RE Lightmeters
Re: opinions please?
Re: Asus A7V133 mother
Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
RE: Asus A7V133 mother
Re: Asus A7V133 mother
Re: lightmeters(1)
Re: RE Lightmeters
how to tell a dvcam from a DVCAM
Re: Best LCD Monitors?
Re: To Digest or Not To Digest
List Streamlining
Re: VHS lousy quality
RE: Asus A7V133 mother
RE: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking?
16x9 adapter surprise
RE: lightmeters
Re: To Digest or Not To Digest
Re: opinions please?
Re: lightmeters
RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
RE: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking? (not an upgrade)
Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
RE: editing woes
Looks like Premiere 6 busts a lot of 3rd party plugins!
RE: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking? (not an upgrade)
RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Re: VHS lousy quality
Re: Asus A7V133 mother
used decks
Re: lightmeters
Re: used decks
DSR-11 vs DSR-20
Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Firewire "Diasy Chain" Capture w/new TiPB?
Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Re: Firewire "Diasy Chain" Capture w/new TiPB?
Re: Looks like Premiere 6 busts a lot of 3rd party plugins!
Re: To Digest or Not To Digest
Give me a hint..FCP A/B roll editing...
Broken tape repair
Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Re: Firewire "Diasy Chain" Capture w/new TiPB?
Re: Looks like Premiere 6 busts a lot of 3rd party plugins!
Re: DSR-11 vs DSR-20
Re: xl-1 purchase
Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
RE: Looks like Premiere 6 busts a lot of 3rd party plugins!
RE: Broken tape repair
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:11:21 -0500
From: "aew"
To:
Subject: Re: Problem with Timex Sinclair
Message-ID: <004f01c09a53$ecff6ee0$47119618@hala1.on.home.com>
I think your'e exaggerating. 8K of ram cost about $1000 then(seriously)
My TRS80 had 4K ram and a cassette interface. I was able to program the
entire Canadian Federal income tax form on it though!
I hear theres an early version of Premiere that runs on it, but I think it
keeps crashing the OS.
Also I don't think anybody at adobe was born in 1978
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Feeley
To:
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: Problem with Timex Sinclair
> I wrote about Altairs:
>
> >I used one at my first real job. But the first machine I got to
> >build was an IMSAI 8080 tricked out with a full 64K RAM. Geez, that
> >was a long time ago. High school summer hobby.
> >
> >I later used an IMSAI 8080 in my first real job
>
> Sorry about the obfuscation. We did have both an Altair and an IMSAI
> doing useful stuff. But the two IMSAIs are what I really remember
> fondly...
>
> Jim
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:26:02 -0800
From: " Vizion Communication"
To:
Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
Message-ID: <004801c09a55$fb949410$3946989e@VIZION2000>
What is your O/S /configuration?
DE
----- Original Message -----
From: "bron barry"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:12 PM
Subject: premiere 6.0 dv problems
> hey guys,
>
> so i finally broke down and bought the upgrade and i thought all my dv
> problems would be solved.... nope.
>
> as i'm exporting to tape thru the firewire it plays for about 10, great
> quality, and then boom, it flashes off--- premiere is still going but the
> image in the camcorder deck is flickering white and blue.
>
> do you think my hard drive isn't quick enough?
>
> i'm using a sony trv103 ,
>
> i have a half hour show im trying to get off my computer and i'm stuck
> here
>
> any help would be awesome!!
>
> bron
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:31:04 -0500
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: New Panasonic DVC200 pdf
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A409D744@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
Perry wrote:
> Not ONLY a Sony format Jan, I have a rather nice Ikegami
> widescreen DVCAM
> camcorder on test at the moment!!
Is that the single piece or is that the dockable? And of course I wouldn't
go through all the histrionics that you gave me I brought up the fact that
DVCPRO was manufactured by Hitachi, Philips and Ikegami, since you now seem
to realize that there is a sense of validation in having multiple
manufacturers, regardless of who makes the transports.
> Reading your specs, you HAVE to be a stickler on
> nomenclature. Calling the
> DVC200 the First 1/2" camcorder to record on large DV tape< is a bit
> cheeky!
Well actually it is not, as it is recording in DV which gives it a 4 1/2
hour record time. And so I think it stands that it is the only DV camcorder
that holds a large cassette. I mean you don't have to go to DVCAM.
>In fact, since DVCAM transports will happily use DV tape the
> statement is plainly incorrect.
But in DVCAM the record time is clearly shorter. However since you do point
out that the DVCAM will record on DV tape and the new dry lube tape will be
available, I think the added tape business will be good.
> I'm looking forward to testing the DVC200, but I gather we
> will have to wait a while for the PAL version.
I would think so. ;-)
Best regards,
Jan
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:35:07 -0500
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: New Panasonic DVC200 pdf
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A409D745@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
Christopher wanted to know about battery life:
It would really depend on which batteries you decided to use. You can
adapt the camera to use NP-1 style batters or use the Anton Bauer or IDX.
Depending on Battery used will depend on battery life. The packages do not
come with batteries, so it is wide open.
Does that help?
Jan
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:53:20 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Asus A7V133 mother
Message-ID: <200102191153.FAA14487@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>At 11:25 AM 2/12/01 -0600, you wrote:
>>Problem is most o the
>>Athalon motherboards that I have encountered don't give you the option to
>>change that setting. They also have it fixed to a value of 32.
>
>The problem is also that earlier VIA chipsets, popular on Athlon boards,
>are a bit lame. I have an Asus A7V with the VIA KT133 and it rocks. This
>board is popular with the IDE crowd, because it has 4 IDE connectors for a
>total of 8 IDE devices. Because the KT133 only supports ATA66, they put a
>Promise chip on it which does ATA100. The even newer VIA KT133A and then
>KM133 support ATA100.
So, does the A7V133 allow you to set the PCI latency?
You have no problem using it with firewire cards? The Abit KA7-100 certainly
does not work with firewire cards, and it too is an Athlon motherboard,
with similar VIA chipsets. Maybe the newer versions of the chipsets let the
firewire cards work.
I'm seriously thinking of replacing the Abit BP6, if this thing works,
since the BP6 likes to just plain freeze for no reason. I've reloaded
98 this weekend and don't even have all of the software reloaded and
already it froze on me once.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:04:25 -0500
From: steve sanacore
To:
Subject: Re: lightmeters
Message-ID:
A few purposes of a light meter on a video shoot would be to meter the
ratios, and to just keep the level of light the same throughout the project.
Film DP's like to keep the same f stop throughout a project both to maximize
sharpness and keep the same look.
Just my thoughts.
Steve Sanacore
> From: "Eric S."
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:07:36 +1000
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: RE: lightmeters
>
> How does one relate the readings from a light meter to video cameras ?
> Do you need to set a shutter speed first and then work from that ?
> There's obviously no ASA to go by.
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:42:37 -0500
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID: <00f901c09a7a$db883bc0$6401a8c0@design1>
I've had very good results with the P2B-D. On startup I had the basic system
components installed and everything came up just fine. Then I added the 75
gig IBM and it would hang on boot trying to figure out what kind of drive
was there. If I disabled the drive it would start OK. I went to the ASUS web
site and downloaded the latest bios (a beta version at that time) and the
flash utility. Put those files on a Win98 bootable floppy and restarted the
computer. I executed the flash utility, saved the old bios in a file and
loaded the new bios. The next step was to remove the floppy and reboot. It
now recognizes my 75 gig drives and I'm a happy camper. There are notes on
the recommended slot assignments for that motherboard on the Canopus web
site for the DVRexRT. With the Storm I'd just use the slot previously listed
for the DVRex M1.
The documentation for the P2B-D board is more complete than most boards I've
used in the past. There's also a CD-ROM that has some additional resources,
drivers, and applications that's included. ASUS has typically had frequent
updates to their bios files on their web site.
One last note on bios updates. Be sure to use a UPS while doing a bios
update otherwise a minimal power glitch at the wrong time could leave you
with a corrupted flash memory and no way to fix it without a prom
programmer. I've done dozens of updates without a problem but you need to be
sure you have good stable power. Reflashing the bios only takes a couple of
minutes.
The positive side of the P2B-D is that it's been around quite awhile and
it's very stable. The downside is that it's at the end of the road with it's
100 MHz FSB and slot 1 processor configuration. I'm running dual 800's and
they work great but I don't know for sure if it will take the 1 GHz
processors. Based on cost and performance I'm very happy with my RexRT. With
the addition of the MPEG module, which is in transit now, my system will be
finished for some time to come.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Quimpo"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 8:58 PM
Subject: RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
>
> Hi Walt
>
> Thanks for the Asis board suggestion. An Asus board is a good idea - very
> common in Asia, and also good quality. How is the documentation? Did you
> have to do much tweaking beyond the factory defaults to get your RexRt
> going? I am particularly scared about this bios thing.
>
> Randy Quimpo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walt [mailto:wwimberly@cfl.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:48 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
>
>
> I think you want to stay Intel PIII for sure. I'm currently using an ASUS
> P2B-D with 2 PIII-800 with my RexRT and Windows 2000. Everything is
working
> fine and I'm just using the onboard IDE 33 ports with the 75 gig IBM's. I
> did have to update the bios to be compatible with the 75 gig drives.
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:14:46 -0500
From: "Gary Bettan, The Electronic Mailbox"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking?
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010219091329.00b494f0@pop3.concentric.net>
At 10:48 AM 2/19/01 +0800, you wrote:
>Which leaves
>us Canopus users like us with Premiere (or Rex/Raptor Edit).
Actually there is a very strong and loyal and supportive group of Ulead
Media Studio Pro 6.0 Raptor users. You may wnat to check out some of there
posts on the Canopus and MUG user groups.
Gary
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:12:02 -0500
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: Mini DV vs DVCam tapes in Sony PD100a and GV-D900
Message-ID: <010b01c09a7f$10071e80$6401a8c0@design1>
Using the data published by Sony I evaluated their DV / DVCAM product lines.
Sony mini-DV Premium tape, while very good, has the highest drop-out rate.
The Excellence tape is 5 to 10 times better than Premium and DVCAM is about
the same as the Excellence tape from a performance standpoint. There is a
higher grade of DVCAM tape but the difference in specs was not significant.
If you're using the memory chip DVCAM tapes have a larger memory capacity
than their DV counterparts. The mini-DVCAM tapes come in a fancier library
case which has more room to write on but I actually prefer the smaller DV
packaging.
The bottom line is Sony DV Excellence or Sony DVCAM without the memory chip
is virtually identical except for the case. I've used both interchangeably
with no problems in both DV and DVCAM cameras. Since the Excellence tapes
are slightly less expensive and I like the cases better that's what I use
most of the time with the DVCAM as a backup if I can't get the Excellence
tapes.
I've never had any dropout problems with any Sony tape. I try not to use the
first or last minute or two of any tape and I always keep them in a dust
free environment. Zip-Lock plastic sandwich bags are great for sealing out
dust in the field. While I've not had any problems with Premium tape the
small difference in cost and the significantly better specs causes me to
choose the Excellence tape as my preferred brand.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Nisson"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:45 PM
Subject: Mini DV vs DVCam tapes in Sony PD100a and GV-D900
> I just upgraded to Sony PD100a and PD150 to replace my VX1000 camcorders.
I
> was actually a bit surprised to see that the PD100a records only in DVCam
> mode and it is recommended that DVCam tapes only be used (not mini DV). I
> find that it seems to record well using mini DV tapes however.
>
> I use Sony GV-D300 and 900 VTRs for editing. Their manuals say they take
> Mini DV tapes only. So I"m wondering what the best course of action is.
> What exactly is the difference between mini DV and DVCam tapes. Does it
> really matter which I use for shooting in my PD100a? Will the GV-D300 and
> 900 accept DVcam tapes?
>
> Any advice will be appreciated.
>
> Joel Nisson
> jdn@bird9.com
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:22:21 -0500
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID: <012b01c09a83$448f2900$6401a8c0@design1>
I'm running 2 75 gig IBM's in removable trays so I can swap projects
quickly. It really works great.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Quimpo"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 2:02 AM
Subject: RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
>
> Hi Walt,
>
> One more thing - how did you update this bios? And how many 75GB IBMs are
> you running right now?
>
> Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walt [mailto:wwimberly@cfl.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:48 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
>
>
> I think you want to stay Intel PIII for sure. The Tiger 230 looked like a
> good motherboard but I haven't used one yet. I'm currently using an ASUS
> P2B-D with 2 PIII-800 with my RexRT and Windows 2000. Everything is
working
> fine and I'm just using the onboard IDE 33 ports with the 75 gig IBM's. I
> did have to update the bios to be compatible with the 75 gig drives.
>
> Walt
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:27:23 -0500
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: Mini DV vs DVCam tapes in Sony PD100a and GV-D900
Message-ID: <012c01c09a83$44b0bac0$6401a8c0@design1>
That's not quite true.
You would well advised to not record both DV and DVCAM format on the same
tape but either format will play in any of the listed cameras or decks. The
GVD-900 records only DV and the PD-100a records only DVCAM but both will
play both formats. Of course the PD-150 will do both.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "jhogg"
> You won't be able to use the GVD 300/900 with the tapes you
> record with the PD-100a.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:02:06 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: How to do DV-L
Message-ID: <59A03C250B9@vilas.uwex.edu>
Don P wrote:
>Perhaps it implies that a significant percentage of
DV-L interaction is "on the clock". That is, folks do DV-L at
work, but not on their own time.<
Yes, I do. I (and my boss) think it's quite a worthy use of work-
time...learning, teaching and evangalization are a big part of my
current gig. I would hope everyone feels that way about their
jobs...if you aren't growing, you're shrinking. IHMO.
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:08:47 -0500
From: "Gary Bettan, The Electronic Mailbox"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: How to do DV-L
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010219100335.00c7b430@pop3.concentric.net>
At 09:02 AM 2/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Don P wrote:
>
> >Perhaps it implies that a significant percentage of
>DV-L interaction is "on the clock". That is, folks do DV-L at
>work, but not on their own time.<
check some of my posts. I think you'll see 2, 3 even 4 in the morning. It
is never too late or too early to DV-L. But then again, I was an early
documented case of internet fever & addiction.
Heck we are a worldwide list. Just because it's AM for you, doesn't mean
one of our fellow DV-L members down under hasn't just finished his supper.
On a more serious note: Our web logs show it, as do the responses we get to
emails and posts. In the USA a vast majority of web surfing is done 9-5 PM.
Even more interesting, our highest day for web traffic is Monday.
Gary
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:21:46 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID: <59A57B67082@vilas.uwex.edu>
Randy, I set up an MSI 694D mobo with the onboard Promise RAID
and audio for a Storm system, and couldn't be happier. I have two
P3 800EB chips (133Mhz FSB) and they haven't so much as
coughed. The RAID is two 60Gb IBM Deskstars...when running
StormTest I see >60Mb transfer rates. And I still have a free RAID
channel should I feel the need for more storage.
One oddity is the Storm's inability to address more than 386Mb of
RAM for buffer...but I assume that'll be fixed soon. With RAM
prices dropping thru the floor, it's soon going to be time to get a full
gig in it anyway.
I'm running Win2K, btw.
Hope this helps -
Bruce A. Johnson, CIC
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Innovations Unit
ICQ# 26415869
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:26:44 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: lightmeters
Message-ID: <59A6CDC20E7@vilas.uwex.edu>
Eric, I assume we are talking about video here, right? Most
cameras have a form of light meter built in - it's the zebra. Shows
you either 77% fleshtone (Sony, usually) or 100% video (everyone
else.) Generally, I'll set up a shot so that (all else being equal) the
zebra is just sparkling on the brightest thing in the shot.
Sometimes I'll close down a half-stop from that point...richens the
colors, IMHO.
I rarely use a light meter anymore, but back in my studio TV days
we lived with one around our necks...gotta get that flat look on the
news set, y'know.
Bruce A. Johnson, CIC
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Innovations Unit
ICQ# 26415869
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:07:47 -0500
From: jmerser@concentric.net
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Steadicam Vs. Glidecam
Message-ID:
>Does anyone know which stabilizers they use in that new XFL series on NBC?
>I thought I saw an operator on the field holding a SteadyTracker-type
>device.
>
>Thanks,
>Christopher
That looked very much like the cheapest "real"
steadicam for the XL1 sized cameras.
It was a vest and arm, so it actually
works for more than 5 minutes.
$4,500. Saw it at NAB, very nice if you
can go the price. If not, check out
http://www.marztech.com/ for a
cost effective alternative.
I've heard good things about Hollywood Lite.
~$3K.
jmerser
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:09:28 -0500
From: jmerser@concentric.net
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: VHS lousy quality
Message-ID:
>I've noticed that, when making dubs from my DV master, the VHS quality
>really takes a dive.
Yes, the video quality suffers, but are you going s-video in on those
JVCs? S video, even though recording only in VHS mode seems to produce
a much cleaner dub. If you haven't tried that, you should.
>So the question -- will video processors, such as the Elite Video BV4S
>restore the IRE black level to 7.5, or is it just advertising hype? If so,
>does it require a vectorsope to use it? Their adds make it seem like the
>_ulitimate_ answer, but then they're trying to sell them. Are there better
>options out there?
I've heard that the elite video proc amp is noisy, which
you certainly don't want. That, and it can also blow your levels
way out of legal if you don't have a scope to monitor them.
Good luck,
jmerser
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:28:03 -0000
From: "Michael Wade"
To:
Subject: Re: New Panasonic DVC200 pdf
Message-ID: <000f01c09a91$0f2e4580$f1ce193e@s3s4u5>
I came in half way through this thread so I may well have the stick by the
wrong end.
Jan said the DVC 200 'is the only DV camcorder that holds a large
cassette.'
The VX9000 holds a large (3 hour) DV cassette or a large DVCAM cassette
giving 4 1/2 hour recording. It does not hold any kind of miniDV cassettes.
I believe it is Pal only.
Cheers
Michael Wade
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:58:47 -0700
From: bron barry
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
Message-ID: <20010220.100017.-365755.0.bronbarry@juno.com>
i have window me. 80 gigs 256 ram
i don't know the configurations? how do i find that?
thanks
bron
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:26:02 -0800 " Vizion Communication"
writes:
> What is your O/S /configuration?
>
> DE
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bron barry"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:12 PM
> Subject: premiere 6.0 dv problems
>
>
> > hey guys,
> >
> > so i finally broke down and bought the upgrade and i thought all
> my dv
> > problems would be solved.... nope.
> >
> > as i'm exporting to tape thru the firewire it plays for about 10,
> great
> > quality, and then boom, it flashes off--- premiere is still going
> but the
> > image in the camcorder deck is flickering white and blue.
> >
> > do you think my hard drive isn't quick enough?
> >
> > i'm using a sony trv103 ,
> >
> > i have a half hour show im trying to get off my computer and i'm
> stuck
> > here
> >
> > any help would be awesome!!
> >
> > bron
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:01:40 +0000
From: Fogar
To:
Subject: Info 0.65X Wide Angle Lens.
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010218163503.01bf1008@popmail.libero.it>
Hi,
I'd like to buy a 0.65X Wide Angle Lens with bayonet attach
for Sony VX2000 of the Century Optics.
But I'm afraid about its focal. I make many motion shots and
perhaps it could not be the correct focal. Perhaps there are some trembling.
Is a 0.5X Wide Angle Lens better?
If you use this focal, could give me some info?
Thanks Fogar
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:35:59 -0800
From: "Lone Orchard Productions"
To:
Subject: RE: How to do DV-L
Message-ID:
Don P wrote:
>Perhaps it implies that a significant percentage of
DV-L interaction is "on the clock". That is, folks do DV-L at
work, but not on their own time.<
Bruce Wrote:
>Yes, I do. I (and my boss) think it's quite a worthy use of work-
time...learning, teaching and evangalization are a big part of my
current gig. I would hope everyone feels that way about their
jobs...if you aren't growing, you're shrinking. IHMO.
=================================
I wrote:
I am sure there are many of us who own run our own production "Companies"
and are solo endeavors and monitor the incoming mails on the DV-L while we
are editing. Some of us like weekends off now and then... :)
Derek, CIC
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:11:37 -0500
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
Message-ID: <016201c09a9f$6b246a00$6401a8c0@design1>
Configuration is the list of components being used. Processor type and
speed, memory, OS, Firewire or video card, camera or deck, etc. The more we
know about your system the more likely it is that someone can help you.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "bron barry"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
> i have window me. 80 gigs 256 ram
>
> i don't know the configurations? how do i find that?
>
> thanks
> bron
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:26:02 -0800 " Vizion Communication"
> writes:
>
> > What is your O/S /configuration?
> >
> > DE
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bron barry"
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:12 PM
> > Subject: premiere 6.0 dv problems
> >
> >
> > > hey guys,
> > >
> > > so i finally broke down and bought the upgrade and i thought all
> > my dv
> > > problems would be solved.... nope.
> > >
> > > as i'm exporting to tape thru the firewire it plays for about 10,
> > great
> > > quality, and then boom, it flashes off--- premiere is still going
> > but the
> > > image in the camcorder deck is flickering white and blue.
> > >
> > > do you think my hard drive isn't quick enough?
> > >
> > > i'm using a sony trv103 ,
> > >
> > > i have a half hour show im trying to get off my computer and i'm
> > stuck
> > > here
> > >
> > > any help would be awesome!!
> > >
> > > bron
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:28:28 -0600
From: "Scott Sanders"
To:
Subject: RE: Asus A7V133 mother
Message-ID:
This is very interesting. I have the ASUS K7V motherboard. It does work
with my DVRaptor card and is on the Canopus compatibility list as working.
The A7V I don't have but is on the Canopus list and definatly not working.
Just thought I'd mention that.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Vidiot [mailto:brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:53 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Asus A7V133 mother
>At 11:25 AM 2/12/01 -0600, you wrote:
>>Problem is most o the
>>Athalon motherboards that I have encountered don't give you the option to
>>change that setting. They also have it fixed to a value of 32.
>
>The problem is also that earlier VIA chipsets, popular on Athlon boards,
>are a bit lame. I have an Asus A7V with the VIA KT133 and it rocks. This
>board is popular with the IDE crowd, because it has 4 IDE connectors for a
>total of 8 IDE devices. Because the KT133 only supports ATA66, they put a
>Promise chip on it which does ATA100. The even newer VIA KT133A and then
>KM133 support ATA100.
So, does the A7V133 allow you to set the PCI latency?
You have no problem using it with firewire cards? The Abit KA7-100
certainly
does not work with firewire cards, and it too is an Athlon motherboard,
with similar VIA chipsets. Maybe the newer versions of the chipsets let the
firewire cards work.
I'm seriously thinking of replacing the Abit BP6, if this thing works,
since the BP6 likes to just plain freeze for no reason. I've reloaded
98 this weekend and don't even have all of the software reloaded and
already it froze on me once.
MB
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:37:30 -0500
From: "Joel Nisson"
To:
Subject: Batch captrue timecode problem in FCP
Message-ID: <01fc01c09aa3$042a4640$9cebfea9@Dell>
My FCP 1.2, beige G3 system had been working OK, but now a problem.
When I try to batch capture, I keep getting an error: "Timecode break or
end of timecode reached before requested out time plus handles if any"
I have tried several tapes. Same problem. All seem to have OK timecode
which reads out on screen - no breaks. My pre- and post-rolls are set to 3
seconds.
Any help will be apprecitaed.
Joel Nisson
jdn@bird9.com
.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:55:09 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To: "DV -L Organization"
Subject: DVRaptor and Premiere 6 - What is the consensus?
Message-ID:
What is the consensus of using the DVRaptor and Premiere 6??? Is it
viable or is it better to stick with Premiere 5.1c? Thanks!
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:35:07 +0530
From: indiancinema
To:
Subject: viewcd making software & tech info . REQUEST
Message-ID:
we have been told that viewcd footage which can played in compuetr as well
as viewcd.. has a fixed resolution ,which is supposed to be 352 x 288 or
something similar for pal video .
is there any other solution where one can achive better quality- full
screen video atleat 640 x 480 .should be playedin VIEW CD & in computer
can someone pl shed some light as well as recommend the software for doing
this
thanks a lot
IC
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:34:14 -0600
From: Perro Loco Productions
To: Tony & Trish Angelopoulos ,
Charles Sutton ,
Jacob , Pat Nagel ,
, Work
Subject: FW: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID:
Hey guys,
Check it out!
> Your film, Papa's Pizza, has officially premiered on IFILM!
>
> It can be found at:
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/skeletons/film_detail/0,1263,771767,00.html
>
> Check your film's page and your filmmaker page regularly to see the ratings,
> reviews and comments from the people who are watching your movie.
>
> When you get 1000 hits, the number of viewers will be displayed right there on
> the film's page!
>
> Congratulations, again, from the whole team at IFILM.
>
> -IFILM Programming
> http://www.ifilm.com
--
Jason Ahles
Perro Loco Productions | Einstein Design
http://www.perroloco.com | http://www.einstein-design.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:31:23 -0500
From: "Mike Woodworth"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID: <200102191946.OAA30695@blount.mail.mindspring.net>
I couldn't get it to play... something about realplayer not finding an
update to play the selected media. I'm not sure how iFilm operates but I
know they offer some films in QT, you should look into that for folks like
me on a the mac platform.
--mike
Mike Woodworth
Divergent Media Solutions, Inc.
mike@divergentmedia.com
612.327.3219
----------
>From: Perro Loco Productions
>To: Tony & Trish Angelopoulos , Charles Sutton
, Jacob , Pat Nagel
, , Work
>Subject: FW: Papa's Pizza is now live!
>Date: Mon, Feb 19, 2001, 2:34 PM
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Check it out!
>
>
>> Your film, Papa's Pizza, has officially premiered on IFILM!
>>
>> It can be found at:
> http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/skeletons/film_detail/0,1263,771767,00.html
>>
>> Check your film's page and your filmmaker page regularly to see the ratings,
>> reviews and comments from the people who are watching your movie.
>>
>> When you get 1000 hits, the number of viewers will be displayed right there
on
>> the film's page!
>>
>> Congratulations, again, from the whole team at IFILM.
>>
>> -IFILM Programming
>> http://www.ifilm.com
>
> --
>
> Jason Ahles
>
> Perro Loco Productions | Einstein Design
> http://www.perroloco.com | http://www.einstein-design.com
>
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:58:19 -0600
From: Perro Loco Productions
To:
Subject: Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID:
on 2/19/01 1:31 PM, Mike Woodworth at Lists@divergentmedia.com wrote:
> I couldn't get it to play... something about realplayer not finding an
> update to play the selected media. I'm not sure how iFilm operates but I
> know they offer some films in QT, you should look into that for folks like
> me on a the mac platform.
Well, I say screw Real.
Check out http://www.perroloco.com/clips4.html
QT clips for everyone! :-)
I made them pretty damned big, so even the "good" quality is a modest
download.
--
Jason Ahles
Perro Loco Productions | Einstein Design
http://www.perroloco.com | http://www.einstein-design.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:09:30 +0800
From: ann steuernagel
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: opinions please?
Message-ID:
I am interested in using one of the new Mac G4 (733mhz) computers and the
latest version of Premiere for non-linear editing. Is anyone working with
this type of system? Aside from additional hard drives for storage, do I
need to add anything else to a system like this to get it to capture and
output video without dropped frames?
Thank you.
Ann
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:16:43 -0600
From: "Scott Sanders"
To:
Subject: RE: opinions please?
Message-ID:
I don't know but I'd love to hear what you think of the built in DVD-R
drive! Also now that I'm getting really close to buying a Powerbook G4 does
anyone have any experience with using Lightwave 3D on a computer with an ATI
video card? Is it usable? I guess it should be because up until the radion
that's all Macs had but just curious to hear any opinions. Wondering if I
can use the G4 Powerbook as my only system for doing animation and dumping
that animation DV?
Thanks,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: ann steuernagel [mailto:steuern@fas.harvard.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 2:10 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: opinions please?
I am interested in using one of the new Mac G4 (733mhz) computers and the
latest version of Premiere for non-linear editing. Is anyone working with
this type of system? Aside from additional hard drives for storage, do I
need to add anything else to a system like this to get it to capture and
output video without dropped frames?
Thank you.
Ann
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:09:37 -0800
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: QT than 25 fr/sec..mr kevinmarks info please
Message-ID:
At 8:35 pm +0530 18/2/01, indiancinema wrote:
>on 2/17/01 1:02 AM, Kevin Marks at kmarks@apple.com wrote:
>"Video drivers installed - you may accidentally have lost video
> acceleration, which will hurt the frame rate a lot "
>--------------
>thamks mr kmarks
>would you pl enumerate this please
>how this acceleration will "go " without reason & how to restore it
It usually to do with the ATi drivers you have installed. Upgrading
to the latest OpenGL will get you current ones:
http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11545
Various apps will install different versions of these drivers, and
unravelling the right ones for a particular Mac is complicated. the
OpenGL installer does a good job of this.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:37:54 -0600
From: Matthew Groves
To: ""
Subject: Best performance out of PCI IDE card
Message-ID:
Hello All,
Simple question.
If using two drives on a PCI IDE card (I love my PROMAX), is it better to
put one on each channel, or set both up as a master/slave on one channel.
Does it make a difference? Mac platform.
Thanks,
Matthew Groves
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:44:06 -0800
From: Charles F. McConathy
To:
Subject: Re: Best performance out of PCI IDE card
Message-ID: <1010219124405.236fe6c.3f774447.ASIP6.3.1.988084@mail.promax.com>
Matthew Groves Wrote:
I would suggest you connect the first two drives as Master and Master -
one each to one of the two ports. If you connect two more then they would
be Slave and Slave. A master is slightly better than slave so why not go
with master.
>Hello All,
>
>Simple question.
>
>If using two drives on a PCI IDE card (I love my PROMAX), is it better to
>put one on each channel, or set both up as a master/slave on one channel.
>Does it make a difference? Mac platform.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Matthew Groves
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:01:42 -0500
From: John Luna
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Batch captrue timecode problem in FCP
Message-ID:
>My FCP 1.2, beige G3 system had been working OK, but now a problem.
>
>When I try to batch capture, I keep getting an error: "Timecode break or
>end of timecode reached before requested out time plus handles if any"
Joel,
What you should upgrade to 1.2.5 I don't know why this is happening
but 1.2.5 addresses many of the dropped frame problems.
Also throw out the prefs for FCP and QT and try that and see if that
will help you.
John
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:11:40 -0500
From: John Luna
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID:
>Well, I say screw Real.
>
Thank god for quicktime. I hope your script writing abilities have
improved. I have a cable connections and the movie started to play
almost as soon as I got to the sight. Great editing though.
John
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:13:35 -0800
From: David Hardy
To:
Subject: RE Lightmeters
Message-ID:
>How does one relate the readings from a light meter to video cameras ?
>Do you need to set a shutter speed first and then work from that ?
>There's obviously no ASA to go by.
Pick any ASA as a starting point. Light your set based on this. Bracket your
test shots in 1/3 stop increments for a range of 1 to 2 stops in either
direction. Check the results on a good quality monitor. You may also wish to
consult a waveform monitor once you determine the exposure that looks best
to verify that you are not using illegal levels. After determining the
effective ASA of your camera you can do all your lighting on the set based
on this effective ASA. Naturally you'll want to use an incident light meter
to light the set & not the reflected light meter built into the camera for
best results.
If you're not interested in lighting your sets, but are only interested in
getting the correct exposure, then using the built in meter would sufice. In
either case most people do some final tweeking of the lights after examining
the results on a monitor.
Dave Hardy
Vancouver B.C.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:32:03 -0800
From: Charles F. McConathy
To:
Subject: Re: opinions please?
Message-ID: <1010219133202.239a2e5.3f774447.ASIP6.3.1.990364@mail.promax.com>
ann steuernagel Wrote:
Premiere 6.0 works fine with Power Macintosh computers. The 733 is nice
but not needed for Premiere. The best thing about the 733 is the ability
to author DVD's. We have found the new 533 dual processor to be really
fast and lot less expensive than the 733. The choice depends on what you
plan to do.
We sell fully configured G4's with Premiere at very cost effective rate.
Check with one of our sales people for a quote.
>I am interested in using one of the new Mac G4 (733mhz) computers and the
>latest version of Premiere for non-linear editing. Is anyone working with
>this type of system? Aside from additional hard drives for storage, do I
>need to add anything else to a system like this to get it to capture and
>output video without dropped frames?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Ann
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:45:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Asus A7V133 mother
Message-ID: <200102192145.PAA22494@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>This is very interesting. I have the ASUS K7V motherboard. It does work
>with my DVRaptor card and is on the Canopus compatibility list as working.
>The A7V I don't have but is on the Canopus list and definatly not working.
>Just thought I'd mention that.
>Scott
Interesting indeed, since the K7V board uses the exact same VIA chipset
that my Abit KA7-100 board uses and it DOES NOT work with firewire cards.
I'm downloading the manual now, to see if the PCI latency can be set.
The Abit KA7-100 doesn't let you set it. Yep, it can be set. I do not
know if that is the reason why the board doesn't work.
From what I can see, the K7V doesn't have 4-EIDE connectors, which severly
cramps my style, as I have 7 EIDE devices in my current box.
MB
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------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:14:59 -0700
From: bron barry
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
Message-ID: <20010220.151538.-215243.1.bronbarry@juno.com>
ah,
amd athalon
2 x 40 gig hard drives
256 ram
1394 firewire
sony digital hi 8 trv 103
windows me
premiere 6.0
dv capture is choppy
dv playback is not accepted by the deck very well ( flickers out after 4
or 5 seconds.)
thanks
bron
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:11:37 -0500 "Walt" writes:
> Configuration is the list of components being used. Processor type
> and
> speed, memory, OS, Firewire or video card, camera or deck, etc. The
> more we
> know about your system the more likely it is that someone can help
> you.
>
> Walt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bron barry"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
>
>
> > i have window me. 80 gigs 256 ram
> >
> > i don't know the configurations? how do i find that?
> >
> > thanks
> > bron
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:26:02 -0800 " Vizion Communication"
> > writes:
> >
> > > What is your O/S /configuration?
> > >
> > > DE
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "bron barry"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:12 PM
> > > Subject: premiere 6.0 dv problems
> > >
> > >
> > > > hey guys,
> > > >
> > > > so i finally broke down and bought the upgrade and i thought
> all
> > > my dv
> > > > problems would be solved.... nope.
> > > >
> > > > as i'm exporting to tape thru the firewire it plays for about
> 10,
> > > great
> > > > quality, and then boom, it flashes off--- premiere is still
> going
> > > but the
> > > > image in the camcorder deck is flickering white and blue.
> > > >
> > > > do you think my hard drive isn't quick enough?
> > > >
> > > > i'm using a sony trv103 ,
> > > >
> > > > i have a half hour show im trying to get off my computer and
> i'm
> > > stuck
> > > > here
> > > >
> > > > any help would be awesome!!
> > > >
> > > > bron
>
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:54:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
Message-ID: <200102192254.QAA23504@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>amd athalon
Actually it is an Athlon.
>2 x 40 gig hard drives
>256 ram
>1394 firewire
>sony digital hi 8 trv 103
>windows me
>premiere 6.0
>
>
>dv capture is choppy
>dv playback is not accepted by the deck very well ( flickers out after 4
>or 5 seconds.)
>
>thanks
>bron
Yep, dropped interrupts. What brand motherboard is it and what model number?
My Athlon motherboard won't work with firewire cards either.
MB
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:09:52 -0600
From: "Scott Sanders"
To:
Subject: RE: Asus A7V133 mother
Message-ID:
The Default PCI Latency is set to 32 so if you haven't changed it that could
be a problem. Set it to 64 or higher. I had it working well at 128 just to
be sure.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Vidiot [mailto:brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:46 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Asus A7V133 mother
>This is very interesting. I have the ASUS K7V motherboard. It does work
>with my DVRaptor card and is on the Canopus compatibility list as working.
>The A7V I don't have but is on the Canopus list and definatly not working.
>Just thought I'd mention that.
>Scott
Interesting indeed, since the K7V board uses the exact same VIA chipset
that my Abit KA7-100 board uses and it DOES NOT work with firewire cards.
I'm downloading the manual now, to see if the PCI latency can be set.
The Abit KA7-100 doesn't let you set it. Yep, it can be set. I do not
know if that is the reason why the board doesn't work.
From what I can see, the K7V doesn't have 4-EIDE connectors, which severly
cramps my style, as I have 7 EIDE devices in my current box.
MB
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:15:40 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Asus A7V133 mother
Message-ID: <200102192315.RAA23805@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>The Default PCI Latency is set to 32 so if you haven't changed it that could
>be a problem. Set it to 64 or higher. I had it working well at 128 just to
>be sure.
>
>Scott
Are you talking about the K7V or the A7V? In either case, the Abit KA7-100
doesn't allow you to set the PCI latency, and the test program that I ran
against it said that it was set to 32.
MB
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:49:39 +1000
From: "Eric S."
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: lightmeters(1)
Message-ID:
Thankyou Bruce, Steve, Randy, others,
Yes, I was talking digital video, and worrying about lighting sets.
>Eric, I assume we are talking about video here, right?
>Film DP's like to keep the same f stop throughout a project both to maximize
>sharpness and keep the same look.
>I say that a vector scope and waveform beats the VIEWFINDER for exposure
>monitoring any day, unless you train yourself to read the zebra stripes right.
Original Q:
>How does one relate the readings from a light meter to video cameras ?
eric from oz
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:52:58 +1000
From: "Eric S."
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: RE Lightmeters
Message-ID:
Thanks Dave,
I presume I set shutter to 50th ? (PAL)
And yes, I'm interested in lighting sets.
eric
>
>
>Pick any ASA as a starting point. Light your set based on this. Bracket your
>test shots in 1/3 stop increments for a range of 1 to 2 stops in either
>direction. Check the results on a good quality monitor. You may also wish to
>consult a waveform monitor once you determine the exposure that looks best
>to verify that you are not using illegal levels. After determining the
>effective ASA of your camera you can do all your lighting on the set based
>on this effective ASA. Naturally you'll want to use an incident light meter
>to light the set & not the reflected light meter built into the camera for
>best results.
>
>If you're not interested in lighting your sets, but are only interested in
>getting the correct exposure, then using the built in meter would sufice. In
>either case most people do some final tweeking of the lights after examining
>the results on a monitor.
>
>Dave Hardy
>Vancouver B.C.
>
Original Q:
>>How does one relate the readings from a light meter to video cameras ?
>>Do you need to set a shutter speed first and then work from that ?
>>There's obviously no ASA to go by.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:42:37 -0600
From: henry czuprinski
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: how to tell a dvcam from a DVCAM
Message-ID:
At 12:44 AM -0800 2/19/01, DV-L wrote:
>
>Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:51:55 -0500
>From: "Crittenden, Jan"
>To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
>Subject: RE: New Panasonic DVC200 pdf
>Message-ID:
><8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A409D73F@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
>
>And Henry I love your enthusiasm but when you nickname it a panasonic dvcam,
>you are calling it a sony format. It is a DV camcorder, Sony makes DVCAM.
>I know its picky but if you were to ask Sony they would be sure to set you
>straight. And I too, am a bit of a stickler on nomenclature.
>
>Thanks for the heads up on the site, I didn't know that it was up yet. Good
>Job.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Jan
Quite so, careless of me.
I only look confused. Gotta get my dashes and terminology
straight. I'll go sit in the corner a while and sulk. Henry
C
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:23:00 -0600
From: Chris Hurd
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: Best LCD Monitors?
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010219140202.04773f08@dvinfo.net>
Howdy from Texas,
Mitchell Gass wrote...
>
> Although it's too small for what I need, the Delvcam 5.6"
> LCD monitor sold by Markertek supposedly has 480 lines
> of resolution but only a 320 X 240 LCD panel. Is this possible?
This is the same little 5.6" LCD monitor sold by Elite
Video and VariZoom ("Delvcam" is a name invented by
Markertek -- I used to work for VariZoom and all three
companies get this particular monitor from the same
supplier. It is made in Korea, if I remember correctly).
It has been a popular field monitor for basic camera
work and playback, but the specs are not all that great.
Still, no matter who you buy it from, it's a good deal
for the money (only a couple hundred bucks).
To answer your question, no it will not do 480 lines.
Here are the specs:
Active Matrix (*not* dual scan)
Screen area 116mm x 87mm
Viewable area 113mm x 83.5mm
Resolution 320 x 240 pixels
Dot Pitch 0.116(H) x 0.348(V)
Contrast Ratio 85:1
Luminance 270 candellas
It's inexpensive, and the quality is adequate, but it
might not be the quality you want. Panasonic makes
a great 7" LCD monitor, and you check into VariZoom's
other LCD monitors, larger than 5.6" but still not quite
the size you're looking for. Haven't had my hands on
these yet:
http://www.varizoom.com/monitors/tft68.htm
http://www.varizoom.com/monitors/tft7.htm
...the latter is a 16x9 monitor for proper
display of "widescreen" video, so seemingly
popular among our set...
Chris Hurd
San Marcos, TX
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:45:31 -0600
From: Chris Hurd
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: To Digest or Not To Digest
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010219163602.047cee60@dvinfo.net>
Howdy from Texas,
This weekend I did what I said I was going to do
and donated a little over a hundred bucks to the
DV-L fund. On top of that, I gladly donate time,
bandwidth and server space to DV-L endeavors.
I don't know if that gives me any bargaining power
at all, but can the DV-L Warden *puh-leeze* add
to the list of forbidden topics this idiotic digest-vs-
non-digest debate.
I've been on this list since 1997 and I read every
word of it every single day, first thing in the morning,
on my own time. I post when I think it's relevant and
timely. No one can accuse me of not knowing what's
going on or being a part of the discussion.
Steady-stream folks who think they're communicating
in "real time" are sadly mistaken. Real-time is a phone call.
This ain't a phone call, it's a mailing list. Some people are
out feeding cows, some people are sleeping or eating in
other time zones, some people are working and get to the
e-mail later. You cannot possibly argue that someone who
isn't on the digest is somehow more actively involved than
someone who is on the digest. We all participate. The way
the list is received shouldn't matter. As for those who are
content just to lurk, fine; this happens in both modes. Y'all
remember my good friend Michael Pappas? Michael lurks...
in the steady stream e-mail mode, not the digest.
But there seems to be an element on DV-L that thinks
they're better than the rest of us because of the way
they get the List. Recently I've read that I have no right
to complain about things because I'm on the digest. I'm
"not in the kitchen." I'm "skating by." I'm "the tail wagging
the dog." Offense not intended? Offense taken. Such aloof,
snooty attitudes come from the "mine is bigger than yours"
mentality. In other words, a platform war, plain and simple.
I can't do anything about the opinions of certain snobs, but
I think I have a right to ask that these low-brow comments
be banned from the list. They're not constructive, they do
not advance the discussion. They are a device of intimidation
used to divide members of this list. Was it not concluded
some time ago that such tactics are a Bad Thing? If so,
can we please have the Digest debate and the snide
remarks relating to it permanently expelled. It's great
to know that other concerns are being dealt with by
technology, but I don't think technology can "fix"
elitist judgements passed over some of us because
of how we choose to receive DV-L.
I'm subscribed, I'm reading, I'm contributing, I'm paying,
and then some. Does it matter *how* I'm subscribed?
Chris Hurd
San Marcos, TX
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:45:59 -0600
From: Chris Hurd
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: List Streamlining
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010219173603.0479c070@dvinfo.net>
Howdy from Texas,
For Bertel...
Please remove my link from the message footer :
Archive (daily digest) at: http://www.dvinfo.net/dv-l/digest.htm
I think it would be more appropriate to have this
link on the new DV-L site, but I can't really see
any purpose to having it in each message footer.
Use the line for someone's ad, maybe... but I'd
rather see the streamlining. Your call of course.
Thanks,
Chris Hurd
San Marcos, TX
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:05:46 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: VHS lousy quality
Message-ID: <3A91B4DA.81BDB419@maui.net>
Vic Owen wrote:
> I've noticed that, when making dubs from my DV master, the VHS quality
> really takes a dive. It is noticeably worse than when I went from Hi-8 to
> VHS, which was a surprise. Among other things, there seems to be a lot of
> noise in the dark areas. I've read posts that indicate that the problem is
> possibly the IRE black level of 0 that I'm getting from my XL-1.
I would suggest not putting a BV4S in your system. It would introduce noise which you DON'T want.
You're better off not trying to raise the setup from 0 to 7.5% black unless you have a good (preferably digital) proc amp or TBC which are rather expensive.
Use S-Video rather than composite if at all possible. The best VHS dubs I have been able to make have been with a JVC S3800 which I bought from Promax for only $229. Remarkable quality
from my DV masters. Thank you, Charles!
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:06:43 -0600
From: "Scott Sanders"
To:
Subject: RE: Asus A7V133 mother
Message-ID:
The one that I got too work was the K7V.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Vidiot [mailto:brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:16 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Asus A7V133 mother
>The Default PCI Latency is set to 32 so if you haven't changed it that
could
>be a problem. Set it to 64 or higher. I had it working well at 128 just
to
>be sure.
>
>Scott
Are you talking about the K7V or the A7V? In either case, the Abit KA7-100
doesn't allow you to set the PCI latency, and the test program that I ran
against it said that it was set to 32.
MB
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:09:15 -0800
From: "Robert MacCaul"
To:
Subject: RE: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking?
Message-ID:
We do offer competive upgrades for $349 and upgrades from Premiere $149 and
Premiere LE for $199. Look for
Thanks,
Robert
rmaccaul@adobe.com
Web Community Specialist, Dynamic Media
Adobe Systems Incorporated
www.adobe.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Greissing [mailto:singfred@cvhsa.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 8:05 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking?
Randy
I would talk to Canopus and see it they could organize and upgrade path to
Premiere 6 that would cost less than a full Premiere purchase.
In my opinion Adobe would do good business with Premiere if they offered a
side grade policy. Something like an upgrade for registered users of an
alternative NLE product like FCP, Fast, EditDV or ULead.
Cheers
Fred
www.premieretools.com
The Consolidator
A plug-in for Premiere.
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Quimpo [mailto:Randy_Quimpo@ist-global.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 6:48 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking?
Boom! Digital Origin has been snapped up by the Media 100 people, and no
longer supports Raptor (and other Canopus boards, I presume). Which leaves
us Canopus users like us with Premiere (or Rex/Raptor Edit).
I am now wishing (foolishly, maybe) for a lightweight Premiere version
WITHOUT all the functions/features, and that is NOT a feature disabled
version like Premiere LE. And this Premiere version will allow you to ADD
the features as you need them, meaning that it stays as light as you want,
or can be as heavy and as loaded as you want.
Yeah, if its Adobe and Premier, I might as well be wishing for the moon. Bye
bye, EditDV, I thought for a while that you were a major challenger to the
Premiere throne.
Randy Quimpo
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:18:26 -0600
From: henry czuprinski
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: 16x9 adapter surprise
Message-ID:
I too have been looking forward to the 16x9 future of video for us'n.
Perusing the (I forget if Century or Optex) site I noticed the caveat
that "focus will not hold when zooming out when using an anamorphic
adapter" info listed there. Horrors!!
This is not good news. Look closer before you drop $800. Just
reporting what I read.
I just checked- on the optex page. This may be common sense but
it surprised me- still a nifty idea though. Read that Dancer in The
Dark was shot with a bunch of tiny Sony DVCAM Pd100's "using
anamorphic adapters" in Amer' Cinematographer. Didn't say if it was a
made to order lens or one of these. Actually I forget if it was the
sony 1 or 3 chip minidvcam- in addition to 3 or 4 sony DVCAM's (the
$30 grand ones).
Henry Czuprinski
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:12:28 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: lightmeters
Message-ID:
Hi Steve and Bruce
Yup - keeping the light level for that nice broadcast "flat look"- so that's
why I've seen people walking around the set with their lightmeters and
looking for the places where the meter's needle wiggles. I figure people
lighting basketball courts use it for this purpose, too (can't imagine how
to maintain an even lighting on an area that size).
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: steve sanacore [mailto:steves@flinet.com]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:04 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: lightmeters
A few purposes of a light meter on a video shoot would be to meter the
ratios, and to just keep the level of light the same throughout the project.
Film DP's like to keep the same f stop throughout a project both to maximize
sharpness and keep the same look.
Just my thoughts.
Steve Sanacore
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:22:47 -0500
From: jmerser@concentric.net
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: To Digest or Not To Digest
Message-ID:
>Howdy from Texas,
>
>This weekend I did what I said I was going to do
>and donated a little over a hundred bucks to the
>DV-L fund. On top of that, I gladly donate time,
>bandwidth and server space to DV-L endeavors.
Thanks Chris. I appreciate your generosity.
>I don't think technology can "fix"
>elitist judgements passed over some of us because
>of how we choose to receive DV-L.
>
That is my stance. Technology cannot fix
people's attitudes or _make_ them polite
and considerate of other people's concerns.
Dat is VAT DEESE JACKBOOTS AND PADDLE ARE VOR!
>I'm subscribed, I'm reading, I'm contributing, I'm paying,
>and then some. Does it matter *how* I'm subscribed?
>
>Chris Hurd
>San Marcos, TX
Bro, don't even waste your breath. 2999 members
are with you. The other(s?) has/have some deep seated
personal problem that will not allow them to admit
a mistake or accept that _any_ action they take is mistaken.
They'd rather argue their side of the issue to the point were you get
fed up and give in. It is unfortunate that they are also
the type who will never get counseling. Most need some.
j "okay, yeah, I guess that plum is orange" merser
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:22:58 -0800
From: "Robert C. Fisher"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: opinions please?
Message-ID: <3A91B8E2.3A90C857@pacbell.net>
ann steuernagel wrote:
> I am interested in using one of the new Mac G4 (733mhz) computers and the
> latest version of Premiere for non-linear editing. Is anyone working with
> this type of system? Aside from additional hard drives for storage, do I
> need to add anything else to a system like this to get it to capture and
> output video without dropped frames?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ann
I also have this computer on order the only thing I am adding is storage. Most of my gear is on my present FCP setup. The best NLE software in my opion is Final Cut Pro but I have heard
some decent things about Premier 6. FCP has worked for me almost trouble free for about 2 years. I am chainging my firewire cases over to Granite Digital cases since the one I bought about
3 weeks ago has worked great! The drivers are more stable and the hardware is better. The storage thing depends on how much space you need, the firewire cases I have used have been good
and not droped any frames. I also have a TurboMax card driving 2 drives internaly and it has been great no problems at all and fast. The thing about this G4 is they are not delivering yet
so I don't know of anyone who has one to know of any problems but I can't wait for mine to arrive. My G3/400 is a little long in the tooth.
Cheers
Bob Fisher
FishPond Digital
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:44:07 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: lightmeters
Message-ID: <3A91BDD7.4E7A62E5@maui.net>
Yes Eric, you do need a light meter to light a set properly. When you're setting lights for key, fill, backlight, you need to keep the correct ratios and that's best done with a meter. I
admit I seldom use a meter any more, but if I were DP for a shoot (video or film) I sure as hell would have a meter to get consistent lighting for the look the director wants.
To establish the ASA of a particular camera (if you don't happen to have an 18% gray card) I would go into the manual exposure mode and shoot a well lit area with my camera and set the iris
by whatever means you have. Look at the signal on a wave form monitor to make sure it is the correct exposure. Let's say the camera was shooting at 1/60th of a second and the exposure was
f8. Point your light meter at the same area and adjust the ASA until you see the proper exposure is 1/60 at f8. Then you'll know what the "ASA" of that particular camera is.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
"Eric S." wrote:
> How does one relate the readings from a light meter to video cameras ?
> Do you need to set a shutter speed first and then work from that ?
> There's obviously no ASA to go by.
>
> I've heard them called the "money-maker" on set, so that's one good reason to go for one.
> Another reason is that you _really_ look like you know what you're doing when you wave one of them around (impress the customers and crew ).
> A third reason might be to get better balanced exposures ?
>
> -Or:
> -unnecessary ; just use the viewfinder !?
>
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:53:56 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID:
Hi Bruce
Who makes this MSI 694D mobo? Also, is the 133Mhz FSB vs 100 Mhz really a
significant issue? The way I see it (to my ignorant brain), both of these
will work but the boards with 133 Mhz FSBs are newer and will support the
faster processors.
regards
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503 [mailto:johnsonb@wpt.org]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:22 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Randy, I set up an MSI 694D mobo with the onboard Promise RAID
and audio for a Storm system, and couldn't be happier. Hope this helps -
Bruce A. Johnson, CIC
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Innovations Unit
ICQ# 26415869
--
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:03:52 -0500
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010219195949.01b05810@mail.speakeasy.org>
>Who makes this MSI 694D mobo? Also, is the 133Mhz FSB vs 100 Mhz really a
Um. MSI? Or is that a trick question? http://www.msicomputer.com/
I just had to jump in here to point out the bleeding edge of dual proc
mobos today - if you can't wait for dual Thunderbirds - is the Abit VP6.
http://www.abit.com.tw/english/product/motherboards/vp6.htm . Very highly
spoken of - just type 'vp6 reviews' into your browser for a sampling. Seen
some success with it on the DVStorm forum, though I haven't tried it yet
myself.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:03:08 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking? (not an upgrade)
Message-ID:
Hi fellows
Thanks for all the suggestions, but I was really wishing for a better
software design, not an upgrade. My point was that Premiere, for all its
advantages, feels like a bloated pig due to all the plug-ins, etc.
Rex/RaptorEdit, which I use, on the other hand, is nice and light but
doesn't have all the goodies that Premiere has. So I was wishing for a
software with a plug-in architecture that allows you to install only the
features you need, allowing you to go bare-bones or fully loaded depending
on how you set it up.
If it was up to me, I would develop a DOS style screen using only keyboard
shortcuts for editing, but that's just me.
I was also lamenting the demise of EditDV for Raptor, since I thought that
it was a lighter, but also feature packed contender to Premiere.
Thanks again.
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert MacCaul [mailto:rmaccaul@Adobe.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:09 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking?
We do offer competive upgrades for $349 and upgrades from Premiere $149 and
Premiere LE for $199. Look for
Thanks,
Robert
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:10:08 -0800
From: h2ofun@h2ofun.net (Dave Campbell)
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID: <3A91C3EF.BC6E41F@h2ofun.net>
I have been happy getting my VP6 going. Waiting for storm. Lots of great people for
help both in abit newsgroup and storm forum. Makes all the difference in the world.
dave
Joe Parker wrote:
> >Who makes this MSI 694D mobo? Also, is the 133Mhz FSB vs 100 Mhz really a
>
> Um. MSI? Or is that a trick question? http://www.msicomputer.com/
>
> I just had to jump in here to point out the bleeding edge of dual proc
> mobos today - if you can't wait for dual Thunderbirds - is the Abit VP6.
> http://www.abit.com.tw/english/product/motherboards/vp6.htm . Very highly
> spoken of - just type 'vp6 reviews' into your browser for a sampling. Seen
> some success with it on the DVStorm forum, though I haven't tried it yet
> myself.
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:20:01 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID: <3A91C641.B1B565C@maui.net>
Nice job Jason. Would you be so kind as to give us the particulars of your QT compression? I'm trying to learn more about the subject.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
Perro Loco Productions wrote:
> Well, I say screw Real.
>
> Check out http://www.perroloco.com/clips4.html
>
> QT clips for everyone! :-)
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:37:49 -0800
From: Evan Robinson
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: editing woes
Message-ID:
What I've done is build a PERL filter to re-process the data captured
by Cat-DV and maintain a complete duration sum for each tape. Then I
have the "time from start of tape" for each segment, even though the
T/C is broken.
You may have to speak to your local computer geek to get something
similar done to match your system.
Evan
At 12:07 AM -0700 on 2/17/01, you wrote:
>What I have done when I had a tape with "broken" timecode is to label
>the first part of the tape as say, Tape001A, and then log that section's
>footage with its timecode. After the first break in the timecode where
>it starts back over at zero, I label that part as say, Tape001B, and
>then log that section's footage with its timecode. If there is another
>break in the timecode on that tape, it becomes Tape001C, and so on. So,
>you just pretend that you have more than one tape (one for each
>continuous timecode section) on each real physical tape. And you just
>create a separate batch list and/or log for each "pretend" tape.
>Likewise, you can make a VHS timecode dub for each section as if they
>were a new tape. When you go to batch capture, you just position the
>tape inside the section you are batch capturing. In short, you just
>treat each physical tape as multiple psuedo tapes. Hope this helps.
>
>Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
>Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mensa babe [mailto:mensababe@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 4:22 AM
>To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
>Subject: editing woes
>
>.....Remember, I was the one who used my GL1 to film 50 hours of doc
>footage...only to discover that I had ruined the continuous DV timecode
>because I kept on rewinding and shooting as I went along...
>
>.....If anyone understands this dilemma and has suggestions, I would be
>very
>grateful. Please send a CC: of your reply to me directly, since I only
>get
>the digest in two days, and I'm meeting with my editor tomorrow at noon.
>
>A huge THANK YOU!!!
>
>Diana.
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revolutionary act.
-- George Orwell
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:35:55 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To: "DV -L Organization"
Subject: Looks like Premiere 6 busts a lot of 3rd party plugins!
Message-ID:
Well, it looks like Premiere 6 upgrade busts a lot of 3rd party plugins
that worked in 4.21 and 5.1c. Some more "progress" when upgrading
Adobe's software, I guess. :-(
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:32:12 -0800
From: "Mike Jennings"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: premiere 6.0 wishlist, or wishful thinking? (not an upgrade)
Message-ID:
>Thanks for all the suggestions, but I was really wishing for a better
>software design, not an upgrade. My point was that Premiere, for all its
>advantages, feels like a bloated pig due to all the plug-ins, etc.
Filter Plug-ins are, I believe, removable; I know they were in 5.1.
A former video editing instructor on our team used to strip out all
of the plug-ins except Cross Dissolve and one or two other special
ones so that she didn't have to look at disastrous videos from her
students.
I really don't think that "lots of features" always has to equal
"slow". I've used a lot of fast, stripped down apps (EditDV, for
example), and now I've worked on your "bloated pig."
In my experience, the only thing that unavoidably slows us down is
reliance on open standards (QuickTime, DirectShow, and others) and
the hardware abstraction layers that give us compatibility with so
many hardware platforms. Everything else is just a design
improvement. (Well, that or backward compatibility, that's another
one.)
Premiere 5.1 was a sluggish program to use. We went to a lot of
effort to make P6 more responsive. If you find anything that makes
Premiere any less than a racehorse, we'd like to hear about it for
further improvements in future versions.
While it's typical of large software manufacturers to make each
successive version of their software slower, with the justification
that "CPUs get faster," I think it's important to point out that this
is not always true (5.1 vs. 6), and I think it will remain a priority
of this development team to continue in this direction.
That doesn't just mean "snappy response" -- anything that keeps you
from editing at top speed is a candidate for improvement in a future
release. Windows that appear at awkward times, basic functions that
require too many steps, whatever.
(We know: Everyone has some commonly-used keyboard shortcut that
"shouldn't require a modifier key" -- just be aware that most
people's pet shortcuts are different. User-mapping of keyboard
shortcuts is the only way to universally improve the keyboard
shortcuts.)
--Mike Jennings
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:38:51 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID:
No Trick, Joe. Some of us dynosaurs long for the days of the Apple II.
Thanks for the info also, but I found the website before I saw your post. My
issue with the motherboard isn't the hottest/fastest monster on the block -
its the one I can configure myself without too steep a learning curve (or
without taking so much time everyone will start wondering why I didn't plunk
down the bucks for a turnkey system). As my original post went, "best" for
me isn't the fastest - its the fastest and easiest to configure.
regards
Randy Quimpo
>Who makes this MSI 694D mobo? Also, is the 133Mhz FSB vs 100 Mhz really a
Um. MSI? Or is that a trick question? http://www.msicomputer.com/
I just had to jump in here to point out the bleeding edge of dual proc
mobos today - if you can't wait for dual Thunderbirds - is the Abit VP6.
http://www.abit.com.tw/english/product/motherboards/vp6.htm . Very highly
spoken of - just type 'vp6 reviews' into your browser for a sampling. Seen
some success with it on the DVStorm forum, though I haven't tried it yet
myself.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:00:04 -0700
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Subject: RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID:
Randy,
We have switched to the MSI694D and are pretty happy with it. If you get a
VIA board, make sure you get the 425 4in1 driverset. A lot of folks are
having problems with 428, so I would recommend 425. We use the board with
the built in Promise RAID and it works well for DV.
Internally, we have an Iwill DVD266 VIA board that uses DDR RAM. Its pretty
sweet and should make a nice interim solution until the P4s are dual capable
and have DDR support.
The main reason we moved to one of the newer 133 boards is that it is
getting harder to find the Slot 1 CPUs. The speed difference is noticeable,
but not huge.
Thanks,
Ken Bell
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Quimpo [mailto:Randy_Quimpo@ist-global.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:54 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: RE: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
>
>
>
> Hi Bruce
> Who makes this MSI 694D mobo? Also, is the 133Mhz FSB vs 100 Mhz really a
> significant issue? The way I see it (to my ignorant brain), both of these
> will work but the boards with 133 Mhz FSBs are newer and will support the
> faster processors.
>
> regards
>
> Randy Quimpo
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:21:41 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: VHS lousy quality
Message-ID: <200102200221.UAA25182@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>Vic Owen wrote:
>
>> I've noticed that, when making dubs from my DV master, the VHS quality
>> really takes a dive. It is noticeably worse than when I went from Hi-8 to
>> VHS, which was a surprise. Among other things, there seems to be a lot of
>> noise in the dark areas. I've read posts that indicate that the problem is
>> possibly the IRE black level of 0 that I'm getting from my XL-1.
>
>I would suggest not putting a BV4S in your system. It would introduce noise which you DON'T want.
>You're better off not trying to raise the setup from 0 to 7.5% black unless you have a good (preferably digital) proc amp or TBC which are rather expensive.
>
>Use S-Video rather than composite if at all possible. The best VHS dubs I have been able to make have been with a JVC S3800 which I bought from Promax for only $229. Remarkable quality
>from my DV masters. Thank you, Charles!
>Aloha,
>Jon Burkhart
I disagree. Most TVs are adjusted based upon correct NTSC video, i.e., with
7.5 IRE black. By not restoring the black level you cause the video to
be buried in the mud. At least the black levels between 7.5 IRE and about
15 IRE.
MB
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:22:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Asus A7V133 mother
Message-ID: <200102200222.UAA25195@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>The one that I got too work was the K7V.
>Scott
Rats. Not enough EIDE connectors.
MB
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:42:03 -0500
From: steve sanacore
To:
Subject: used decks
Message-ID:
Anyone have any recommendations as to where to look for used DV decks? I
would also love to get a BetaSP deck for dubs. My budget is small but am
curious as to the market value of these items.
Steve Sanacore
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:51:27 -0500
From: steve sanacore
To:
Subject: Re: lightmeters
Message-ID:
Randy;
Flat look is exactly what I don't want. I am looking for the ratio that will
look like 4 to 1 on film but required 2 to 1 on video. I always push for the
most contrast without loosing detail for my commercial shoot. For drama,
anything goes.
Moving from color negative film, to MiniDV is quite a step in lighting ratio
tolerance.
Steve Sanacore
> From: Randy Quimpo
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:12:28 +0800
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: RE: lightmeters
>
>
> Hi Steve and Bruce
>
> Yup - keeping the light level for that nice broadcast "flat look"- so that's
> why I've seen people walking around the set with their lightmeters and
> looking for the places where the meter's needle wiggles. I figure people
> lighting basketball courts use it for this purpose, too (can't imagine how
> to maintain an even lighting on an area that size).
>
> Randy Quimpo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: steve sanacore [mailto:steves@flinet.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:04 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: lightmeters
>
>
>
> A few purposes of a light meter on a video shoot would be to meter the
> ratios, and to just keep the level of light the same throughout the project.
> Film DP's like to keep the same f stop throughout a project both to maximize
> sharpness and keep the same look.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Steve Sanacore
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:57:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Charos
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: used decks
Message-ID: <20010220025720.6208.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com>
If you want to play roulette, go to www.ebay.com, type
in betacam in the search field, and good luck.
I have have had excellent results here (admittedly,
for clunky umatic decks), others have bid and won
expensive door stops.
- Bill Carpenter
Athena Productions
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:33:35 -0600
From: Bill Finch
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: DSR-11 vs DSR-20
Message-ID: <3A91E58F.FF6EEDC4@ix.netcom.com>
I've used the DSR-20 with good results and no problems ever. I need
another unit and am thinking of a DSR-11 with it's obvious advantages
and lower price. I recognize the DSR-11 has no component video out. Are
there any other disadvantages? Is it as reliable as the DSR-20?
Bill
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:02:32 -0600
From: Perro Loco Productions
To:
Subject: Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID:
on 2/19/01 7:20 PM, Jon Burkhart at burkhart@maui.net wrote:
> Nice job Jason. Would you be so kind as to give us the particulars of your QT
> compression? I'm trying to learn more about the subject.
>
> Aloha,
> Jon Burkhart
Hi Jon,
Standard Sorenson, plain and simple, with Media Cleaner 4.02. It limits
playback to QT4 and up, but the quality just blows Cinepak away.
--
Jason Ahles
Perro Loco Productions | Einstein Design
http://www.perroloco.com | http://www.einstein-design.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:03:04 -0600
From: Perro Loco Productions
To: Work
Subject: Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID:
on 2/19/01 3:11 PM, John Luna at jlcinc@home.com wrote:
>> Well, I say screw Real.
>>
> Thank god for quicktime. I hope your script writing abilities have
> improved. I have a cable connections and the movie started to play
> almost as soon as I got to the sight. Great editing though.
>
> John
Hi John,
Quicktime rules. I can't fathom why Real has such a stranglehold on media.
Ick.
Pretty bad, wasn't it! I especially enjoyed how we went from sunset to pitch
black in 2 cuts. The editing was the only thing that we did right. But,
hey, who cares. It was fun. :-)
--
Jason Ahles
Perro Loco Productions | Einstein Design
http://www.perroloco.com | http://www.einstein-design.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:37:30 -0500
From: "David Mowbray"
To: Perro Loco Productions , DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID: <3A91AE3A.23831.C6B6F99@localhost>
I agree that Real is not the best, but I don't think QuickTime really
shines either. Today the best streaming technology hands down
comes from -- don't upchuck....
Microsoft --- I mean it.
> Quicktime rules. I can't fathom why Real has such a stranglehold on
> media. Ick.
I've been experimenting with current mpeg 4 codecs and for the
same bandwidth the latest wmv format (Media Player 7) wins every
time.
If you want to compare, look at BBC World (24 hour news from the
BBC) streamed in QuickTime from the BBC World site
http://www.bbcworld.com/content/world_live/Live_feed2.asp
and compare it with the same material streamed via Microsoft
technology
(http://windowsmedia.com/preview/asx/BBCworld350k.asx).
Both of these feeds are for those with broadband connections (dsl
or cable modem). There is no comparison.
Cheers
David Mowbray
=======================
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http://www.baobab.net
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:43:42 -0500
From: "Bob S."
To: DV Central
Subject: Firewire "Diasy Chain" Capture w/new TiPB?
Message-ID:
SUBJECT: FIREWIRE-DIASY-CHAINING & VARIOUS DEVICES.
To all:
This message is written mostly as a question, and is aimed at anyone that
has first hand experience, not rumor based "I heard it should work" dialog.
I realize much of this is new technology, like the G-4 laptop, and even DV
editing using daisy-chained firewire drives and devices on various systems
is also fairly new. So I honesly don't expect much.
It has been three years since my first Mac desktop computer. I've watched
the "firewire baby" grow up since my first VX-1000 DV camcorder. The timing
seemed right not only to upgrade but to go somewhat mobile. The announcement
of the new Apple G-4 Titanium Laptop started my latest batch of research.
My plan seems simple. G-4 laptop (one port only), firewire connected to
LaCie 75 gig external firewire hard drive, firewire connected to QPS
CD/CD-RW disk burner, firewire connected to
last device, my Sony DHR-1000 DV deck (one port only). All devices except
laptop and DV deck have two firewire ports. If the QPS deck presents a
problem, I can remove it from the daisy-chain, since I can always plug it in
for use burning CD's from the laptops internal drive, therefore it does not
have to be constantly connected in the firewire chain. Obviously, the deck
and the hard drive and computer have to work in this chain to capture DV
video from the deck to the external hard drive.
Since I am still naive about firewire daisy-chaining I did some homework.
This is one of the responses I got:
"This is not so simple a configuration, remember that you are passing
through two bridges (LaCie and QPS) that may may not work or like each
other. The setup you describe is not tested and is more complicated than
most people try. I worry about the DHR-1000 and the QPS mostly. The DHR-1000
can be cranky and there is little knowlege of the QPS. Also you are
connecting block and non-block devices on the same chain. A block device is
a disk drive and non-block are the DV deck and CD/RW...so its anybody's
guess. A second port on the Powerbook would be nice since then you could
connect the QPS or the Deck and bypass a bridge. Bridges get ugly. Some are
well designed and some are not. Some simply do not have the parts to keep
the signal clean thus cause bus resets messing up frames."
When I responded to this message by suggesting using a "FireWire Hub", this
is the response I got:
"My experience with Hubs has not been that good. Remember FireWire
development at todays rate is like early SCSI in the late 80's."
Below is another opinion, when I related a few people seem to be using the
new G-4 with Final Cut Pro and some sort of "Daisy-chain" setup:
"Several have stated they have had 2 or 3 disk drives attached but I don't
remember any of them saying they add a non-block device like CD-RW in the
chain. Mixing various kinds of FireWire devices that use various brands of
bridge chips can be messy. The number, kind of cable, length of cable,
quality of FireWire cable can make a world of difference with just
cables...now add bridges and chip sets and you can have cluster fxxk."
So there you have it, enough information to make one more confused then ever
concerning putting together a new Apple G-4 laptop editing system based on
Apple's Final Cut Pro, a Sony DV deck, and a LaCie firewire hard drive.
I don't know how many out there, have first hand experience with any of
these components so I may be asking the impossible, but I have to try. I
know that there are many happy people editing now with current G-3 laptop
setups and firewire drives, but I have been warned that a new computer like
this Apple G-4 Titanium can be a whole new ballgame. I also know they just
started shipping, so I don't have any high expectations for this post.
Perhaps some can shed some light at least on how different firewire devices
have behaved in a DV based "daisy-chain" setup. Thanks to all, I'll keep you
informed as I move ahead with my research and purchases, or my own suicide,
whichever comes first!
Bob S.
FWIW: I wrote the above before getting my TiPB 400mhz laptop. So far
capturing has been "drop frame free", except for the know "bug" of the
"first clip". I have hooked up the FW daisy chain in this order: TiPB-LaCie
75gig external hard drive-QPS FW CD/CDRW Burner-Sony DHR-1000 DV deck. First
I tested without the QPS in the chain, and then with it. No problems as of
yet. I still felt compelled to post this as I'm sure there might be some
interest and feedback!
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:11 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
Message-ID: <200102200445.WAA25988@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>We have switched to the MSI694D and are pretty happy with it. If you get a
>VIA board, make sure you get the 425 4in1 driverset. A lot of folks are
>having problems with 428, so I would recommend 425. We use the board with
>the built in Promise RAID and it works well for DV.
>Ken Bell
Is it possible that the 425a VIA drivers will allow the Abit KA7-100 to
actually work with a firewire card?
I guess the only way I'll know for sure is to install the drivers and then
Install a OHCI card and see what happens.
MB
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:01:27 -0800
From: Eric Bin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Papa's Pizza is now live!
Message-ID: <3A91FA27.E03119D@telus.net>
David Mowbray wrote:
> Jason said:
> > Quicktime rules. I can't fathom why Real has such a stranglehold on
> > media. Ick.
Check out this Salon article on Real:
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/02/16/streaming/index.html
This explains why, for the most part, owns the streaming market.
> I've been experimenting with current mpeg 4 codecs and for the
> same bandwidth the latest wmv format (Media Player 7) wins every
> time.
WiMP8 (Beta) is even better from my experience. My beef with WiMP is
that it is terrible on Macs and it also is a media player ONLY - QT and
Real (to a lesser degree) offer some degree of interactivity that WiMP
isn't capable of at all.
> http://www.bbcworld.com/content/world_live/Live_feed2.asp
> and compare it with the same material streamed via Microsoft
> technology
> (http://windowsmedia.com/preview/asx/BBCworld350k.asx).
Yes, live QT streaming isn't the greatest right now but live streaming
really isn't the big part of the market. The market is in on-demand
content and On2's VP3 and Sorenson3 are both excellent and hold their
own against MPEG4.
cheers,
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:01:48 -0800
From: Nick Schlott
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Firewire "Diasy Chain" Capture w/new TiPB?
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20010219210148.010d7338@m4.sprynet.com>
Umm: wasn't 1394 supposed to be an improvement on SCSI? True 'plug & play',
etc? This sounds as bad or worse than SCSI ever was. At least we got rid of
that big Centronics connector and SCSI IDs, but the rest sounds creepily
familiar, sigh...
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>SUBJECT: FIREWIRE-DIASY-CHAINING & VARIOUS DEVICES.
"This is not so simple a configuration, remember that you are passing
through two bridges (LaCie and QPS) that may may not work or like each
other."..."My experience with Hubs has not been that good. Remember
FireWire development at todays rate is like early SCSI in the late
80's."...Mixing various kinds of FireWire devices that use various brands
of bridge chips can be messy. The number, kind of cable, length of cable,
quality of FireWire cable can make a world of difference with just
cables...now add bridges and chip sets and you can have cluster fxxk...So
far capturing has been "drop frame free", except for the know "bug" of the
"first clip". I have hooked up the FW daisy chain in this order: TiPB-LaCie
75gig external hard drive-QPS FW CD/CDRW Burner-Sony DHR-1000 DV deck.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:03:00 -0800
From: Nick Schlott
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Looks like Premiere 6 busts a lot of 3rd party plugins!
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20010219210300.010d7338@m4.sprynet.com>
Details? For example?
At 06:35 PM 2/19/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Well, it looks like Premiere 6 upgrade busts a lot of 3rd party plugins
>that worked in 4.21 and 5.1c. Some more "progress" when upgrading
>Adobe's software, I guess. :-(
>
>Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
>Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:03:06 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: To Digest or Not To Digest
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010219235218.0501d8e0@popserver.panix.com>
At 05:45 PM 2/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I don't know if that gives me any bargaining power
>at all, but can the DV-L Warden *puh-leeze* add
>to the list of forbidden topics this idiotic digest-vs-
>non-digest debate.
Your donation is greatly appreciated.
And all I can say is that we have direct delivery for people who like
direct delivery and digest delivery for people who like digest delivery.
And I don't see much sense in debating the supremacy of either. You simply
choose what you like and nobody gets hurt.
Having said that, I don't want to embargo that topic at this time. I have
embargoed far too many topics recently - at least for my taste. Closing a
topic is a matter of last resort and I only do it when I see people fleeing
the list in droves. I'd prefer that the list polices itself. And I hate to
be the heavy.
If someone thinks otherwise and wants my job, please contact me in private
mail.
BS.
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:05:14 -0500
From: Michael Harpe
To:
Subject: Give me a hint..FCP A/B roll editing...
Message-ID:
OK, I have been playing around with FCP 1.2.5 and I have got video captured
and I am able to do basic cuts and wipes, etc. I have some video that my
brother and I shot of a choir performance. I want to do what I call A/B
roll type editing of this. I mean I have a master shot on A roll and
cutaways on the B roll. I have it captured and I can even get a common
marker on the audio to sync things up pretty well. This was all shot with
Sony VX-2000 cameras.
I just can't seem to get the hang of doing the editing. I learned how to do
this kind of editing in a 1" suite with a Sony A/B roll editor (BVE-5000? It
had a QWERTY keyboard) and a Grass Valley switcher with an Ampex ADO
downstream. I understood that fine. I am having trouble getting into the NLE
mindset with this software. It's synchronizing that is giving me trouble.
All I am asking for is some pointers to get started. Reference to the
manuals would be great. I learn pretty fast once I get started. I will even
buy a training video if you all can recommend one.
Thanks in advance!
Mike Harpe
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:12:02 -0700
From: "David Larson"
To:
Subject: Broken tape repair
Message-ID:
I broke a JVC miniDV tape in my JVC SR-VS10. I am looking for the name of a
company that performs miniDV tape repair. I have found one company
(www.tapecenter.com) on the web that claims to perform DV tape repair, but
know nothing about the company. I found several companies that do only VHS
tape repair. Does anyone have any favorable experience with a DV tape repair
company?
Or has anyone tried performing their own tape repair? Any ideas would be
appreciated.
Thanks for the help in advance.
David Larson
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:04:19 -0500 (EST)
From: "Tom T. Pauncz"
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: Re: One more time: Best Mobo for storm?
While on the topic of MoBos .. anyone have any experience, good or bad, with Asus CUVX4-D, either with a single or dual
processor??
TIA ...
Kind regards,
Tom Pauncz
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>> voice: (416) 967-1030 fax: (416) 929-3805
>> e-mail: pauncz@attglobal.net
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:20:31 -1000
From: Steve Okino
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Firewire "Diasy Chain" Capture w/new TiPB?
Message-ID:
On 2/19/01, another perfect day in paradise, at 11:43 PM -0500, Bob S. wrote:
>
>Since I am still naive about firewire daisy-chaining I did some homework.
>This is one of the responses I got:
>
>"This is not so simple a configuration, remember that you are passing
>through two bridges (LaCie and QPS) that may may not work or like each
>other. The setup you describe is not tested and is more complicated than
>most people try.
Why not just get a cheap $60-$90 hub like the ones at
http://www.firewiredirect.com and plug everything into the hub?
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:20:15 -0500
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Looks like Premiere 6 busts a lot of 3rd party plugins!
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010220001302.01b35a70@mail.dvcentral.org>
At 06:35 PM 2/19/01 -0700, Richard wrote:
>Well, it looks like Premiere 6 upgrade busts a lot of 3rd party plugins
>that worked in 4.21 and 5.1c. Some more "progress" when upgrading
>Adobe's software, I guess. :-(
Plugin developers usually are "in the loop" long before a product ships and
they have ample time to update their plugin (and make some money on they
update if they are so inclined). Some are lazy. Some simply stopped existing.
A plugin rides on a product's coattails. And it has to develop with the
product.
BS
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:21:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DSR-11 vs DSR-20
Message-ID: <200102200521.XAA26226@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>I've used the DSR-20 with good results and no problems ever. I need
>another unit and am thinking of a DSR-11 with it's obvious advantages
>and lower price. I recognize the DSR-11 has no component video out. Are
>there any other disadvantages? Is it as reliable as the DSR-20?
>Bill
The DSR-20 doesn't have component video out either. A buddy has one,
but hasn't had it very long. So far he does like it.
MB
--
e-mail: vidiot@vidiot.com
Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have
programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like
Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99]
Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN)
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:01:17 -0800
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: xl-1 purchase
Message-ID: <007601c09b03$de338760$0400a8c0@charterpipeline.com>
AGREED!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: E Berlin
To:
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: xl-1 purchase
> Awwww...get a Sony PD-150...
> EBerlin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Porter, Jeff [mailto:PortJe@ncs.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:05 PM
> To: 'DV-L@DVCentral.org'
> Subject: xl-1 purchase
>
>
> Hi folks--
>
> If I remember right, it's not wise to buy the xl-1 with the stock lens
> because of the focus thing. B&H sells an XL-1 package with b+w viewfinder
> and a special 14x zoom lens (I assume "special" or better than stock
because
> the package is $5800). Is that the way go?
>
>
> many thanks,
> Jeff Porter
>
> email me separately: portje@ncs.com
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 01:13:07 -0700
From: bron barry
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: premiere 6.0 dv problems
Message-ID: <20010221.011308.-290485.0.bronbarry@juno.com>
it's a 71xe4 amd athlon agp motherboard
750 chipset
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:54:02 -0600 (CST) Vidiot
writes:
> >amd athalon
>
> Actually it is an Athlon.
>
> >2 x 40 gig hard drives
> >256 ram
> >1394 firewire
> >sony digital hi 8 trv 103
> >windows me
> >premiere 6.0
> >
> >
> >dv capture is choppy
> >dv playback is not accepted by the deck very well ( flickers out
> after 4
> >or 5 seconds.)
> >
> >thanks
> >bron
>
> Yep, dropped interrupts. What brand motherboard is it and what
> model number?
>
> My Athlon motherboard won't work with firewire cards either.
>
> MB
> --
> e-mail: vidiot@vidiot.com
> Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must
> have
> programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like
> Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99]
> Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN)
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:22:07 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Subject: RE: Looks like Premiere 6 busts a lot of 3rd party plugins!
Message-ID:
CrystalGraphics 3D Vortex Volumes 1 & 2 transitions, FinalEffects AP
filters. etc. They just crash or lock up Premiere 6.
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
-----Original Message-----
.....Details? For example?
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:22:09 -0700
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To:
Subject: RE: Broken tape repair
Message-ID:
I have repaired a DV tape once that broke at the leader at the front of
the tape. It was kind of a tricky job, but I got it done. Used audio
splicing tape that I trimmed with a tiny scissors.
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
-----Original Message-----
.....I broke a JVC miniDV tape in my JVC SR-VS10. I am looking for the
name of a
company that performs miniDV tape repair. I have found one company
(www.tapecenter.com) on the web that claims to perform DV tape repair,
but
know nothing about the company. I found several companies that do only
VHS
tape repair. Does anyone have any favorable experience with a DV tape
repair
company?
Or has anyone tried performing their own tape repair? Any ideas would be
appreciated.
Thanks for the help in advance.
David Larson
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