DV-L Wed, 16 May 2001 Volume 1 : Number 857
In this issue:
Panasonic plug-in tweaks
getting rid of tape completely via 1394
Dancer in the Dark
Re: Dancer in the Dark
RE: Dancer in the Dark
RE: Masi, Vidiot, and Dave Haynie
Re: Cameras - GL1?
distributing digital movies
Re: omni & uni directional mics ??
Re: distributing digital movies
Re: Dancer in the Dark
Re: Best Tripod for JVC GY-D500?
Re: Dancer in the Dark
REPOST: Streaming video
Selling DVC PRO
Re: Dancer in the Dark
DCR-VX2000
Re: location wireless and shotgun mics...
RE: Dancer in the Dark
Re: REPOST: Streaming video
RE: Cameras - GL1?
Unscribe
Re: OT: distributing digital movies
RE: Selling DVC PRO
RE: Cameras - GL1?
Re: Dancer in the Dark
Re: Selling DVC PRO
RE: getting rid of tape completely via 1394
Re: REPOST: Streaming video
Re: getting rid of tape completely via 1394
Re: Selling DVC PRO
Re: Dancer in the Dark
RE: Dancer in the Dark
RE: Dancer in the Dark
Re: Selling DVC PRO
location wireless and shotgun mics
Sony PD 150 question
Re: Sony PD 150 question
Omni / Uni
JVC S3600U problem
Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
RE: Selling DVCPRO
Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
a device to "throw" sound?
Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
Re: Sony PD 150 question
Re: DCR-VX2000
Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
Re: When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
RE: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
Re: When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
No image in FCP capture window
RE: Dancer in the Dark
Re: a device to "throw" sound?
RE: getting rid of tape completely via 1394
DVCAM, DVCPRO & PROFESSONAL DV
RE: DVCAM, DVCPRO & PROFESSONAL DV
Re: Dancer in the Dark - digital camera
Re: a device to "throw" sound?
RE: a device to "throw" sound?
Re: No image in FCP capture window
Not quite a RAID but still a Promise
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:54:46 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Panasonic plug-in tweaks
Message-ID:
I use a Panasonic plug-in to convert my DV material to MPEG-1, and it gives
me good results. I would like to experiment, however, and try to create a
"best possible quality" MPEG-1 file. What settings should I tweak?
My attempts have mostly been limited to boosting the bitrate (from VCD
standard 1000 bps to up to 4000 bps) and increasing the screen size (from
320x240 to 640x480). Both produce better-than-average stuff, but also
create non-standard VCD files that are ridiculously large. This is not a
problem, since I play them on PCs only and most VCD machines can't play CDRs
anyway.
Is this the best quality that I can produce with the Panasonic settings?
Should I give up on MPEG 1 and start moving into the MPEG-2 realm?
One reason why I stick with MPEG-1 is that anyone with Windows Media Player
can play it - not the case with MPEG-2.
Hope for some ideas.
regards
Randy Quimpo
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 01:17:29 -0700
From: "Felix Gallo"
To:
Subject: getting rid of tape completely via 1394
Message-ID: <001201c0dd17$7c3e2e10$19992b04@cats>
Thanks to everyone who responded in the affirmative
to my question of whether 1394 is 'live' during the shoot
on most (or all) DV cameras.
That answer is really the (excellent) final piece in an
interesting puzzle, the rest of which I've already solved.
The puzzle: is a completely digital tapeless shoot possible
in 2001?
Imagine a small box screwed, a la the Beachtek, into the
tripod mount under the camera. A strain-relieved (and
securely attached. What a terrible wiring spec that is)
1394 cable runs from the camera to the box. The box
contains a hard drive, 1394-ATA interface, and just
enough operating system to write the DV data to
the drive. On the front of the box is a set of VCR
controls (duplicating the tape controls). An extra
camera battery supplies power, since I can't imagine
the camera is capable of providing 1394 bus power.
To the camera, the little box is a computer.
Instead of using the tape VCR controls to record to the
tape, you use the HD VCR controls to record to the
HD.
Right now, these boxes in prototype would have to
be slung on a belt, but it wouldn't take much spice
and surfcam to make it just a little bit thicker than a
hard drive. Total cost shipped _today_ would be
_less than two grand_. And if you did it right, the
little box's 1394 cable would also be hot-pluggable
right into the editing bay...80 gigabytes, 6+ hours,
no tape changes, no batch capture step.
It's a wonderful world.
Pretty soon, the manufacturers will be building this
stuff right into the camera, but for those of us with
'legacy equipment', it's nice to see we've got an
upgrade path.
Felix
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:19:37 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID:
I saw a music video showing Bjork singing and dancing on a train. Is this a
clip from the movie "Dancing in the dark"? If it is, the cinematography is
excellent. I am wondering if these particular shots were taken with a PD100?
regards
Randy Quimpo
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:45:59 +0200
From: "Ton Guiking"
To:
Subject: Re: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID: <001101c0dd2c$d86e9840$18a36dc2@default>
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Randy Quimpo
Aan: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Datum: dinsdag 15 mei 2001 12:27
Onderwerp: Dancer in the Dark
>
>I saw a music video showing Bjork singing and dancing on a train. Is this a
>clip from the movie "Dancing in the dark"?
In "Dancing in the dark" she is singing and dancing on a train.....
>If it is, the cinematography is
>excellent. I am wondering if these particular shots were taken with a
PD100?
The singing and dancing shots in these film are taken with 100 camera's from
the make Sony PD100....
So good chances the answer on both questions is: YES.
FWIW,
Ton
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:02:11 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID:
Yes, she was singing and dancing on a train. It was letterboxed, and the
shots were excellent. On my TV, the image quality looked nice and film-like,
which tells me what kind of images a TRV900 is potentially capable of!
Does anyone know how they did the 16:9 on this? Did they shoot it in 4:3 and
crop it in post? And does anyone know how they processed the video into
film?
regards
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: Ton Guiking [mailto:guiking@xs4all.nl]
The singing and dancing shots in these film are taken with 100 camera's from
the make Sony PD100....
So good chances the answer on both questions is: YES.
FWIW,
Ton
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:06:42 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Masi, Vidiot, and Dave Haynie
Message-ID:
Hi John
Just don't let the technical discussions hold you back. You don't need to
know how firewire works to do good stuff. Its very easy to go with proven
equipment and forget about the technical issues - I myself didn't know
anything two years ago and went ahead and got a Canopus RexM1 - I wasn't
disappointed in the least. Today, there ARE proven solutions and lots of
integrators who can save you the pain of figuring it all out, so you can
concentrate on your real job - making the videos.
Good luck
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: john e. bogus [mailto:mallness@surfbest.net]
As I am also a newcomer to this list, I am very interested in hearing more
of the technical pitfalls before I spend kilobucks putting together a
computer system for my particular a/v application....
Thanks for the posting,
john e. bogus
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:54:22 -0400
From: Don Palomaki
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: Cameras - GL1?
Message-ID: <3B0118EE.306393BE@sysplan.com>
> I don't dare ask anyone to list the 3 chip cameras in order of
> performance.
A good point. All of the 3-CCD camcorders can do good work. They are all
at the quality point where operator/editor skill in shot composition,
lighting, and editing are far more significant factors in the quality of
the end result than the camcorder. Also, each camcorder has its strong
points and weaknesses, not the least of which is price. The makers tend
to play leap-frog with capabilities and features too. Newer models
usually have more and perhaps better features. If we learn the camcorder
we have, we can operate it within its best performance envelop.
> ... bad factory audio mic ...
IMHO this may be an overstatement. At its price point it is a decent
built-in camcorder mic. Better than found on virtually all other
consumer camcorders. But like all built-in mics, there is a lot of room
for improvement if you are after the best possible sound. In loud
locations be sure to use the MIC ATT setting, which also gives best
signal to noise if your audio source has high enough output. As with
all camcorders, best results are obtained with external mics that are
matched to the shooting situation.
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:06:09 +0200
From: "Info"
To:
Subject: distributing digital movies
Message-ID: <00e201c0dd37$72af3a40$2cea36c6@csargeant>
hi
wondered if any of the list members can advise on how to go about
distributing low-budget digital movies. the idea is to be able to profitably
produce and distribute low-budget digital videos - but the problem seems to
be mainly in the distribution side once the videos have been completed. the
available options seem to be :
1) video tape via video stores - is it easy to break into this channel? is
it profitable? what are the prices? how do we market it? do we market or the
video store or both?
2) dvd's via video stores - same questions as apply to vide tape - also as a
"new" medium, is there a demand for it?
3) web streaming - is this profitable now? or should one wait for
technological advancements to increase the bandwidth?
4) online store - having ones' own store as opposed to using established
stores like amazon - what are the costs/profits when using a store like
amazon?
5) which genre is more profitable? feature, documentary, educational?
does anyone have experience with this?
really would appreciate some advise.
thanks
clive
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:14:01 -0700
From: "masi"
To:
Subject: Re: omni & uni directional mics ??
Message-ID: <000201c0dda3$3b2d34c0$3c254fca@a6r2y3>
----- Original Message -----
From: "bullardc" does the 1/8 inch mini plug have one black band (mono) or two (stereo)
Farout!!! I wish all DV problems were this easy to sort out. Thanks a lot
for responding. Turns out I have a mono (one black band).
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:24:31 -0400
From: beachtv
To:
Subject: Re: distributing digital movies
Message-ID:
> 2) dvd's via video stores - same questions as apply to vide tape - also as a
Just ran across this link that may be of help regarding independent DVDs:
http://www.indiedvd.com/
Good luck!
Aaron
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:26:37 -0400
From: "Chris Yewell"
To:
Subject: Re: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID: <001801c0dd42$acfe4960$cb22453f@buckeyeweb.com>
Randy Quimpo asked:
> Does anyone know how they did the 16:9 on this? Did they shoot it in 4:3
and
> crop it in post? And does anyone know how they processed the video into
> film?
The DVD includes the documentary "100 Cameras: Capturing Lars Von Trier's
Vision", in which they show special lenses that were manufactured for an
anamorphic 16:9 process. I guess they then expanded the image when
transferred to film.
Chris Yewell
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: john markert
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Best Tripod for JVC GY-D500?
Message-ID: <20010515135946.71564.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com>
I'm using a Bogen (Manfrotto) 501 head with the 3040
stix from my old Bogen 3140 (3063 + 3040). It's
adequate but not lightweight. I'd go for the new 503
head with a return spring and 3040 stix for under
$500. if you want to save money.
--- Bill wrote:
> I got a Gitzo 1338 package, which has a head rated
> for
> 22 pounds and the carbon fiber legs. It was about
> $1550 from B&H. I got it for use with a DSR250, but
> because it's so light weight, I often find myself
> using it on location with a DSR500, which is
> considerably heavier than the 250. It works fine,
> nice
> smooth movement. It comes with a padded bag and
> quick
> release plate.
>
>
> --- jmortensen wrote:
> > Hey everyone... Putting together a camera package
> > based on the JVC
> > GY-D500... Wondering what everyone is using for a
> > tripod system. Can't
> > afford a Sachtler. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advanced!
> >
> > -john
> >
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:45:06 +0200
From: "Ton Guiking"
To:
Subject: Re: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID: <004c01c0dd47$e31b2f40$18a36dc2@default>
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Randy Quimpo
Aan: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Datum: dinsdag 15 mei 2001 13:04
Onderwerp: RE: Dancer in the Dark
>
>Yes, she was singing and dancing on a train. It was letterboxed, and the
>shots were excellent. On my TV, the image quality looked nice and
film-like,
>which tells me what kind of images a TRV900 is potentially capable of!
That's why I've got this cam :-) (or to be more precise, the TRV890 - only
in PAL - which lacks the DV in - what I don't need with a DHR1000 on my
desk - and which made it cheaper. But nobody wanted this cam due to this
restriction, so it was dumped. In the end you could buy it new at $ 1360
excl. VAT. I bought mine even for $1190).
>Does anyone know how they did the 16:9 on this? Did they shoot it in 4:3
and
>crop it in post? And does anyone know how they processed the video into
>film?
AFAIR Lars von Trier had special anamorphic lenses made for the PD100. So
where are those 100 lenses, I asked myself when I read it...
I know there's a lot written on this film and the techniques, some people
even referred to specific sites on this list, but I don;t remember who or
what.
Ton
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:32:54 -0400
From: Neal Jacob
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: REPOST: Streaming video
Message-ID: <200105151432.KAA03385@www20.ureach.com>
Hello, I originally posted the below message on Saturday, but
didn't hear back from anyone :( I am very new at DV and would
appreciate the assistance.
Thank you :-)
-Neal
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---- Neal Jacob neal_jacob@ureach.com wrote ----
>
> Ok, now for the continuing saga of "Neal the
> Newbie" I decided to go ahead and get Studio DV
> from Pinnacle Systems. It is on order, and
> hopefully it will be here soon so I can start
> playing with it and leave you all alone! :-)
>
> How do I set up a file to stream on a web page? I
> know you have to setup a text file with the URL
> to the actual video file, but what is the file
> extension for Real Media and for Windows Media?
>
> Also I heard that there are "switches" you can
> put in the file to get the media player and real
> media player to do a few tricks when playing the
> file, such as displaying the title, author,
> copyright date, etc....
>
> TIA,
> Neal
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:00:15 -0700
From: Michelle Svetlitski
To:
Subject: Selling DVC PRO
Message-ID:
Does anyone know of any good sites to sell used video equipment. We've just
about decided to dump our Media 100 XR and go with a new Final Cut Pro 2
system. So, we're going to be selling our Panasonic DVC PRO decks and our
Media 100 XR 7.0i, but we have no idea where to sell these things.
Any info. is greatly appreciated!
--
Michelle Dunn
Trivue Entertainment
http://www.trivue.org
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:56:05 -0700
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID: <3B016DB5.452FF703@golden.net>
We saw the making of dancer in the dark documentary at Toronto HotDocs
international documentary film festival just a week ago. The Sony PD100
is the *100 cameras*, all fitted with true anamorphic lens adapters for
widescreen..
cheers..andrew
PS..image projected digitally in the theatre was amazing..
Ton Guiking wrote:
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Randy Quimpo
> Aan: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Datum: dinsdag 15 mei 2001 12:27
> Onderwerp: Dancer in the Dark
>
> >
> >I saw a music video showing Bjork singing and dancing on a train. Is this a
> >clip from the movie "Dancing in the dark"?
>
> In "Dancing in the dark" she is singing and dancing on a train.....
>
> >If it is, the cinematography is
> >excellent. I am wondering if these particular shots were taken with a
> PD100?
>
> The singing and dancing shots in these film are taken with 100 camera's from
> the make Sony PD100....
> So good chances the answer on both questions is: YES.
>
> FWIW,
> Ton
> >
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:59:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Charos
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: DCR-VX2000
Message-ID: <20010515145955.6286.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com>
List,
Do any of you experts here in DV land know if the
DCR-VX2000 has composite in, converted to firewire
out? I have searched the www and not found a
definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
- Bill Carpenter
Athena Productions
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:04:03 -0700
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: location wireless and shotgun mics...
Message-ID: <3B016F93.2F1CCB86@golden.net>
thanks to Karl and everyone else who replied..we are shooting docs and
corporate, indoors and outdoors..and will probably get a sennheiser.
cheers..andrew
Karl Lohninger wrote:
>
> This is all pretty subjective. You'll have to define more what kind of
> 'video' you're trying to create" documentaries, dramas, interviews, etc.
> Are you shooting (mostly) interiors or exteriors, etc.
>
> Just a few hints: used Sennheiser 415, 416 series mics are widely available
> and there is a good reason why they're endorsed frequently. The AT short
> shotgun (4073 I think) has a pleasant sound but misses out on higher
> frequencies - which might also be a good thing, again depending on what
> you're trying to do. On another note, it always pays to spend more on tried
> and trued condensers not only because they sound better but also because
> they're holding their value pretty nicely.
>
> For interiors and mostly close-ups, there is no reason to use a 'shotgun' at
> all. Cardiods (super/hyper) deliver a much more natural sound, they just
> don't have the 'reach' of shotguns. There is a number of modular condenser
> systems on the market, be it AKG, Neumann, Schoeps etc. AT cardiod
> condensers are also quite affordable.
>
> Regarding wireless systems: A bee's nest. Sound quality is one thing
> (defined by the audio circuitry and the more or less brutal compression used
> + plus the actual lavalier mic) and 'reach', how far away you can walk with
> them, is another. Diversity or non diversity has nothing to do with sound
> quality - it even can in some cases deliver worse sound (switching artifacts
> !). Again the question is what are you using it for? For Interviews or
> close-by action etc. diversity isn't needed. You better invest in a simpler
> system and buy a better lavalier mic! You might even get away with a
> hardwired lavalier - that'd be cheaper and sound-wise definitely better.
> Sennheiser is at the moment pretty price aggressive with their 100 system
> that includes a nice mic, the mke-2.....about $ 350.00.
>
> Then there's the 'how to get it onto tape' question: there is usually a
> mixer between the mic(s) (condensers usually need 48 V phantom power and
> older Sennheisers are often 12 V T-powered) and the audio input of the
> camera and there should be xlr (balanced) inputs on the camera...
>
> But again: what are your plans?
>
> Rg, Karl
>
> P.s. Shotguns used exterior almost always need some kind of 'blimp'.....
>
> On 05/14/01 1:15 PM, "andrew kohl" wrote:
> > .....yet we are searching for better sound yet with another wireless
> > and a short shotgun..
> > anyone have good results with Azden? Audio technica?
> >
> > is the sennheiser MK300 sufficient for video as short shotgun?
> > who is using what and are you happy with your results?
> >
> > thanks again..andrew
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:05:09 +0100
From: Mark Grant
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID: <0182399E7179D211824400A0C9EA408A029C00A6@exchuk02.3dlabs.com>
> From: andrew kohl [mailto:kohl@golden.net]
> We saw the making of dancer in the dark documentary at Toronto HotDocs
> international documentary film festival just a week ago. The
> Sony PD100
> is the *100 cameras*, all fitted with true anamorphic lens
> adapters for
> widescreen..
The PD100 is Sony's "pro" version of the TRV900. They might have used a
hundred of them (after all, 100 PD100s with anamorphic lenses would only
cost about $300,000 to buy outright, and they had to spend all those
millions of dollars on something), but it's a camera name, not a reference
to using 100 cameras.
> PS..image projected digitally in the theatre was amazing..
Sure looked bad on VHS.
Apologies if this is a subject which has been discussed to death here
before, but what is the general opinion of this movie? I have a friend who
raves about it, but after watching fifteen minutes of the VHS I really
didn't think much of it: it had its moments, particularly the multi-camera
dance sequence, but I would imagine the success it achieved was because of
the story and *despite* the shooting and editing style. Should I get hold of
the DVD sometime and watch the whole movie?
Mark
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:23:54 -0400
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: REPOST: Streaming video
Message-ID: <014a01c0dd53$c323c7e0$6401a8c0@design1>
One of the most common reasons for no reply is that there are few people
trying to do what you're doing with the selected hardware and software.
Staying with the mainstream gets many more answers. As a pioneer you get to
blaze a path or be shot by the Indians depending on how your day goes. What
you do and how you go about is dependent on the software that is included or
that you buy in addition to the DV200. I'm not familiar with what you're
going to have. With Premiere 6 there are tools built-in to help you get to
your choice of several streaming formats. This is not going to be a simple
cookbook process but one where there are a number of techniques to learn and
choices to make. When you get your hardware start reading the books, work
the tutorials, and finally try creating your own projects. Start with some
really short stuff so you don't spend hours compressing something that has a
fatal flaw. You might also check with the Pinnacle forums and see if someone
there is more knowledgeable about your hardware and included software. One
of the reasons I recommended the PYRO Platinum was that it had the software
included that you needed to get started.
Good Luck,
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Jacob"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: REPOST: Streaming video
>
> Hello, I originally posted the below message on Saturday, but
> didn't hear back from anyone :( I am very new at DV and would
> appreciate the assistance.
>
> Thank you :-)
> -Neal
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________
> Get your own "800" number
> Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more
> http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag
>
>
> ---- Neal Jacob neal_jacob@ureach.com wrote ----
>
> >
> > Ok, now for the continuing saga of "Neal the
> > Newbie" I decided to go ahead and get Studio DV
> > from Pinnacle Systems. It is on order, and
> > hopefully it will be here soon so I can start
> > playing with it and leave you all alone! :-)
> >
> > How do I set up a file to stream on a web page? I
> > know you have to setup a text file with the URL
> > to the actual video file, but what is the file
> > extension for Real Media and for Windows Media?
> >
> > Also I heard that there are "switches" you can
> > put in the file to get the media player and real
> > media player to do a few tricks when playing the
> > file, such as displaying the title, author,
> > copyright date, etc....
> >
> > TIA,
> > Neal
> >
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:35:24 -0400
From: "Robert Gundersen"
To:
Subject: RE: Cameras - GL1?
Message-ID: <002101c0dd54$a891e960$0164a8c0@bgunder.nauticom.net>
Dan, et.al. -
I'm getting into this a bit late, but perhaps I can add a smigen of
interest.
I have only had my GL1 for a very short time and so far have shot very
little footage with it. But, I've tried to do some (semi)controlled tests to
compare to my XL1 with the thought that I may sell the XL1. (I just don't
have enough in the way of "real" projects to justify keeping the XL1 if I am
happy with the GL1's video/audio.)
The first reaction I had looking at the two was YUCK!! The GL1 looked
horrible next to the XL1. I called Canon and after a very short discussion,
they concluded that I had a defective unit. I sent it in (to NJ) and in a
week it was back with the "camera key assembly2" replaced (whatever that
is!).
Now the image, while still noticeably different, is acceptable. The ultimate
decision is still to be made, but if I had to make it now, I'd keep only the
GL1.
Likes -
Size: a nice compromise between weight, bulk and convenience
Contols: intelligent layout, easy to find and use
WD58 Wide Angle Lens: with this on, the zoom range is just about perfection
for the type of shooting I do; the odds are I will seldom if ever take it
off. (and to my eyes there is no discernable loss of resolution viewed on a
studio monitor.)
Image Preferences: being able to set the edge sharpness enhancement and hue
settings
Image: very sharp (but see Dislikes). on one comparison test I shot, the
GL1 obviously had better (higher) resolution than the XL1. (a fine net. the
mesh was sharp and defined with the GL1, a blur with the XL1 - and yes, I
ran thru the focus manually to be sure it was correct)
Focus manual control: unlike the XL1, the manual focus ring seems much less
effected by the speed of turning it. I've been able to do some very nice
rack focus shots with only a few practice runs. have found this impossible
with the XL1.
Dislikes -
Audio: lack of level meters and manual control; one of the great features
of the XL1
Image: too "edgy" for my taste. I've set the sharpness to -1 and it looks
better than the default (acceptably so), but still too much. lower settings
give the image an out-of-focus look. there also is a bit more noise than I'd
like (being spoiled by the XL1), but that is the trade-off with the 1/4"
chips I'm guessing. it's not really noticable except at the +12db setting.
Settings Memory: after shut-down, the camera goes back to a +12db video
gain setting on its own. a real pain. other settings such as white balance
seem to be retained.
Hope you find this of interest.
_____
Bob Gundersen
Viewfinder Ventures Videography
(412) 422-2861
(707) 982-0888 fax
bgunder@stargatechoice.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: danclark [mailto:danclark@seanet.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 9:42 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: RE: Cameras - GL1?
>
>
> Regarding the Canon GL-1. I've been looking around for a reasonably
> priced video camera with the following features: 3-CCD, optical
> stabilizer, high quality, relatively easy to use and good manual
> control.
>
> Saturday, I had a chance to play with a Canon GL-1. I don't know how
> well it works in the field, but it felt great in my hands!
>
> I believe that they can be purchased on-line for about $1750.
>
> Does anyone own one?
> Likes?
> Dislikes?
> Major issues with this camera?
> Better cameras at roughly the same price? Why?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan.
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:34:18 -0700
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: OT: distributing digital movies
Message-ID: <3B0176AA.B224FFE8@golden.net>
Shop for a distributor..shop wisely..they are not all the same..
our info came in that once you decide to post a digital movie on the
net, it is unlikely anyone would want to *buy* and therfore is
considered relatively unsaleble...the incentive there is if you want to
broadcast it down the road..no one will buy something that's been seen
or available for free...(except for a trailer, which is a great way to
tease potential buyers)
there is a mountain of info on the web and we are weeding our way
through it as well..unfortunately, there isnt much of a shortcut to the
learning curve..
we did however learn, that by attending a film festival, with filmmaker
discussions and producer seminars, film showings, and myriads of
meetings, micor meetings and one-on-one rendevouz meetings with
broadcasters, commissioning editors and buyers, you can fastly increase
your knowledge of how the biz works...if you go through the right
channels..and there is way more info than I could briefly touch on
here..all over the web..
it requires a hands-on learning process about first/second/third window
broadcast licenses, who pays what kind of fees, who shows what kind of
programming, financing, co-productions,funding, and all sorts of basics
which we are just in the process of breaking into..
one thought..broadcasters rarely give more than a glance to one shot
deals..one hit wonders..they like to do business with
producer/filmmakers who have several projects in development..which
requires the major task of getting budgeting and proposal writing down,
because often projects get the green light long before a camera has been
turned on..they also like to see several professionals working together
in collaborations, in other words, resumes that speak *experience* in
the industry..
revenues from one license often are not enough to cover the cost of one
doc or show/feature...funding must come from several sources, and it
appears that one broadcaster's interest in your idea may well spark more
interest and funding from various sources...but it's up to you to chase
them down and *pitch* them your idea...and many are oepen to talking
with you about your project and giving you the straight feedback on
viability...and whether they are interested..
we got interest from a CNN comissioning editor on our doc, and from a
canadian broadcaster who is very interested..but all this may take
several months to implement..
another thought...they all say*watch our programming* and see if your
project fits our mandate...
we saw one movie called *Dark Days* about a guy who moved into the
tunnels of new york to live with homeless people for 2 years...he had no
filmaking experience, and involved the subjects as crew....it received a
standing ovation and the film took 5 years to complete..but becasue of
selling his rights , the profits now go to the distributor...and
he's(the filmaker) broke again...and not into making another film..so
its a crazy biz but can be very rewarding once you get past the
paperwork, which is our biggest hurdle...
as to which is more profitable...thats relative...since I have heard of
documentaries involving many partners budgeted at more than seven
figures, and I have heard of features shot for less than 20-30
grand...so..its all relative...it depends on howe you go about
conceiving the financial side of your project(s), as a business..
cheers..andrew
Info wrote:
>
> hi
>
> wondered if any of the list members can advise on how to go about
> distributing low-budget digital movies. the idea is to be able to profitably
> produce and distribute low-budget digital videos - but the problem seems to
> be mainly in the distribution side once the videos have been completed. the
> available options seem to be :
>
> 1) video tape via video stores - is it easy to break into this channel? is
> it profitable? what are the prices? how do we market it? do we market or the
> video store or both?
>
> 2) dvd's via video stores - same questions as apply to vide tape - also as a
> "new" medium, is there a demand for it?
>
> 3) web streaming - is this profitable now? or should one wait for
> technological advancements to increase the bandwidth?
>
> 4) online store - having ones' own store as opposed to using established
> stores like amazon - what are the costs/profits when using a store like
> amazon?
>
> 5) which genre is more profitable? feature, documentary, educational?
>
> does anyone have experience with this?
>
> really would appreciate some advise.
>
> thanks
>
> clive
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:40:34 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Selling DVC PRO
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A4AE7980@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
While I can understand the selling of the Media 100, why sell the DVCPRO?
The AJ-D230H and the 250 are fully compatible with the FCP 2.0 DVCPRO
offers you a very robust archive and a bullet proof tape.
Just curious,
Jan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michelle Svetlitski [mailto:michelle@trivue.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:00 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Selling DVC PRO
>
>
> Does anyone know of any good sites to sell used video
> equipment. We've just
> about decided to dump our Media 100 XR and go with a new
> Final Cut Pro 2
> system. So, we're going to be selling our Panasonic DVC PRO
> decks and our
> Media 100 XR 7.0i, but we have no idea where to sell these things.
>
> Any info. is greatly appreciated!
>
>
> --
> Michelle Dunn
> Trivue Entertainment
> http://www.trivue.org
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:47:04 -0700
From: "danclark"
To:
Subject: RE: Cameras - GL1?
Message-ID: <000201c0dd56$49eae270$0a10fed8@dan>
Bob,
It's never too late to get wisdom from someone who's "been there".
Thanks much for the post.
Regards,
Dan.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Gundersen [mailto:bgunder@stargatechoice.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:35 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Cameras - GL1?
Dan, et.al. -
I'm getting into this a bit late, but perhaps I can add a smigen of
interest.
I have only had my GL1 for a very short time and so far have shot very
little footage with it. But, I've tried to do some (semi)controlled
tests to compare to my XL1 with the thought that I may sell the XL1. (I
just don't have enough in the way of "real" projects to justify keeping
the XL1 if I am happy with the GL1's video/audio.)
The first reaction I had looking at the two was YUCK!! The GL1 looked
horrible next to the XL1. I called Canon and after a very short
discussion, they concluded that I had a defective unit. I sent it in (to
NJ) and in a week it was back with the "camera key assembly2" replaced
(whatever that is!).
Now the image, while still noticeably different, is acceptable. The
ultimate decision is still to be made, but if I had to make it now, I'd
keep only the GL1.
Likes -
Size: a nice compromise between weight, bulk and convenience
Contols: intelligent layout, easy to find and use
WD58 Wide Angle Lens: with this on, the zoom range is just about
perfection for the type of shooting I do; the odds are I will seldom if
ever take it off. (and to my eyes there is no discernable loss of
resolution viewed on a studio monitor.)
Image Preferences: being able to set the edge sharpness
enhancement and hue settings
Image: very sharp (but see Dislikes). on one comparison test I
shot, the GL1 obviously had better (higher) resolution than the XL1. (a
fine net. the mesh was sharp and defined with the GL1, a blur with the
XL1 - and yes, I ran thru the focus manually to be sure it was correct)
Focus manual control: unlike the XL1, the manual focus ring
seems much less effected by the speed of turning it. I've been able to
do some very nice rack focus shots with only a few practice runs. have
found this impossible with the XL1.
Dislikes -
Audio: lack of level meters and manual control; one of the great
features of the XL1
Image: too "edgy" for my taste. I've set the sharpness to -1 and
it looks better than the default (acceptably so), but still too much.
lower settings give the image an out-of-focus look. there also is a bit
more noise than I'd like (being spoiled by the XL1), but that is the
trade-off with the 1/4" chips I'm guessing. it's not really noticable
except at the +12db setting.
Settings Memory: after shut-down, the camera goes back to a
+12db video gain setting on its own. a real pain. other settings such as
white balance seem to be retained.
Hope you find this of interest.
_____
Bob Gundersen
Viewfinder Ventures Videography
(412) 422-2861
(707) 982-0888 fax
bgunder@stargatechoice.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: danclark [mailto:danclark@seanet.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 9:42 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: RE: Cameras - GL1?
>
>
> Regarding the Canon GL-1. I've been looking around for a reasonably
> priced video camera with the following features: 3-CCD, optical
> stabilizer, high quality, relatively easy to use and good manual
> control.
>
> Saturday, I had a chance to play with a Canon GL-1. I don't know how
> well it works in the field, but it felt great in my hands!
>
> I believe that they can be purchased on-line for about $1750.
>
> Does anyone own one?
> Likes?
> Dislikes?
> Major issues with this camera?
> Better cameras at roughly the same price? Why?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan.
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:50:22 -0700
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID: <3B017A6E.F813E85F@golden.net>
I havent seen dancer in the dark....after seeing the *100 Eyes* doc I am
not sure whether its important to me or not..the director stated that
using 100 cameras was considered an experiment which they felt was
successful..
andrew
Mark Grant wrote:
>
> > From: andrew kohl [mailto:kohl@golden.net]
> > We saw the making of dancer in the dark documentary at Toronto HotDocs
> > international documentary film festival just a week ago. The
> > Sony PD100
> > is the *100 cameras*, all fitted with true anamorphic lens
> > adapters for
> > widescreen..
>
> The PD100 is Sony's "pro" version of the TRV900. They might have used a
> hundred of them (after all, 100 PD100s with anamorphic lenses would only
> cost about $300,000 to buy outright, and they had to spend all those
> millions of dollars on something), but it's a camera name, not a reference
> to using 100 cameras.
>
> > PS..image projected digitally in the theatre was amazing..
>
> Sure looked bad on VHS.
>
> Apologies if this is a subject which has been discussed to death here
> before, but what is the general opinion of this movie? I have a friend who
> raves about it, but after watching fifteen minutes of the VHS I really
> didn't think much of it: it had its moments, particularly the multi-camera
> dance sequence, but I would imagine the success it achieved was because of
> the story and *despite* the shooting and editing style. Should I get hold of
> the DVD sometime and watch the whole movie?
>
> Mark
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:06:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Selling DVC PRO
Message-ID: <20010515160607.15900.qmail@web4005.mail.yahoo.com>
Just out of curiosity, what format are you switching
to when you dump the DVCPRO?
--- Michelle Svetlitski wrote:
> Does anyone know of any good sites to sell used
> video equipment. We've just
> about decided to dump our Media 100 XR and go with a
> new Final Cut Pro 2
> system. So, we're going to be selling our Panasonic
> DVC PRO decks and our
> Media 100 XR 7.0i, but we have no idea where to sell
> these things.
>
> Any info. is greatly appreciated!
>
>
> --
> Michelle Dunn
> Trivue Entertainment
> http://www.trivue.org
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:10:17 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: getting rid of tape completely via 1394
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A4AE7982@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
Felix,
We had a mock up of this configuration with the HDD attached to the back end
of the AG-DVC200 at NAB2001. It locked into place utilizing the Anton Bauer
adapter and the battery hung off the back of it as I recall. The HDD could
then be taken an cradled in a external HDD holder that could be wired into a
NLE via 1394. Or there was another mockup that was a laptop editing
solution. Like a Computer, but it had the look and feel of an editing
solution.
So yes it is in the product plan, maybe by next NAB.
FWIW,
Jan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felix Gallo [mailto:fsg@cumulonimbus.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:17 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: getting rid of tape completely via 1394
>
>
> Thanks to everyone who responded in the affirmative
> to my question of whether 1394 is 'live' during the shoot
> on most (or all) DV cameras.
>
> That answer is really the (excellent) final piece in an
> interesting puzzle, the rest of which I've already solved.
> The puzzle: is a completely digital tapeless shoot possible
> in 2001?
>
> Imagine a small box screwed, a la the Beachtek, into the
> tripod mount under the camera. A strain-relieved (and
> securely attached. What a terrible wiring spec that is)
> 1394 cable runs from the camera to the box. The box
> contains a hard drive, 1394-ATA interface, and just
> enough operating system to write the DV data to
> the drive. On the front of the box is a set of VCR
> controls (duplicating the tape controls). An extra
> camera battery supplies power, since I can't imagine
> the camera is capable of providing 1394 bus power.
>
> To the camera, the little box is a computer.
>
> Instead of using the tape VCR controls to record to the
> tape, you use the HD VCR controls to record to the
> HD.
>
> Right now, these boxes in prototype would have to
> be slung on a belt, but it wouldn't take much spice
> and surfcam to make it just a little bit thicker than a
> hard drive. Total cost shipped _today_ would be
> _less than two grand_. And if you did it right, the
> little box's 1394 cable would also be hot-pluggable
> right into the editing bay...80 gigabytes, 6+ hours,
> no tape changes, no batch capture step.
>
> It's a wonderful world.
>
> Pretty soon, the manufacturers will be building this
> stuff right into the camera, but for those of us with
> 'legacy equipment', it's nice to see we've got an
> upgrade path.
>
>>
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:16:17 -0400
From: Neal Jacob
To: "Walt"
Subject: Re: REPOST: Streaming video
Message-ID: <200105151616.MAA12676@www22.ureach.com>
Thank you Walt :-)
I ended up getting the Pinnacle Studio DV because I got it
online for less than the $99 they sell it in stores. Also,
Ulead's Video Studio 5.0 was on sale for $39.99 and Ulead will
give you a rebate of $20 if you own a competitors product, so I
really paid $19.99 for a $99 piece of software. So, I got two
video editing packages and a firewire card for less than
$100. :-)
I'll play around with it once I get everything going (firewire
card should be here FedEx tomorrow) and let you take a peak at
my first attempt. :-)
-Neal
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---- On Tue, 15 May 2001, Walt (wwimberly@cfl.rr.com) wrote:
> One of the most common reasons for no reply is that there are
few people
> trying to do what you're doing with the selected hardware and
software.
> Staying with the mainstream gets many more answers. As a
pioneer you get
> to
> blaze a path or be shot by the Indians depending on how your
day goes.
> What
> you do and how you go about is dependent on the software that
is
> included or
> that you buy in addition to the DV200. I'm not familiar with
what you're
> going to have. With Premiere 6 there are tools built-in to
help you get
> to
> your choice of several streaming formats. This is not going
to be a
> simple
> cookbook process but one where there are a number of
techniques to learn
> and
> choices to make. When you get your hardware start reading the
books,
> work
> the tutorials, and finally try creating your own projects.
Start with
> some
> really short stuff so you don't spend hours compressing
something that
> has a
> fatal flaw. You might also check with the Pinnacle forums and
see if
> someone
> there is more knowledgeable about your hardware and included
software.
> One
> of the reasons I recommended the PYRO Platinum was that it
had the
> software
> included that you needed to get started.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Walt
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:35:09 -0700
From: Ross Jones
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: getting rid of tape completely via 1394
Message-ID:
>That answer is really the (excellent) final piece in an
>interesting puzzle, the rest of which I've already solved.
>The puzzle: is a completely digital tapeless shoot possible
>in 2001?
To take it one step further:
QuickTime is frame rate agnostic so telecine operations could go
directly to a hard drive at 24 fps and bypass all the 3:2 pull
up/down & 29.97 issues (you lucky PAL people). FireWire still has a
few markets to impress/crack.
Does the recording on the drive get an EOF marker only when the
recording stops? How do we make sure the data gets written to disk
right before the camera crashes? Flight recorder specs?
Mini DV tape is still the cheapest 13 gigs of storage on the market.
Ross "how about recording financial data on DV tapes...;)..." Jones
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:55:59 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Selling DVC PRO
Message-ID:
on 5/15/01 8:06 PM, Bill at billgone@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, what format are you switching
> to when you dump the DVCPRO?
>
>
> --- Michelle Svetlitski wrote:
>> Does anyone know of any good sites to sell used
>> video equipment. We've just
>> about decided to dump our Media 100 XR and go with a
>> new Final Cut Pro 2
>> system. So, we're going to be selling our Panasonic
>> DVC PRO decks and our
>> Media 100 XR 7.0i, but we have no idea where to sell
>> these things.
>>
>> Any info. is greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michelle Dunn
>> Trivue Entertainment
>> http://www.trivue.org
>>
>>
>
>
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Hello: I have sold things of quality through the Magazine TV technology and
have purchased excellent mic's from them. Also in their publication are
adds for purchasing and buying used equipment. Here is their Fax #
703-820-3310`Phone # 703-998-7600 or online: wwww.tvtechnology.com. Hope
this helps. Tughollow
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:46:38 -0700
From: Karl Lohninger
To:
Subject: Re: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID:
I very much enjoyed watching 'Dancer in the Dark'. It's a very well made
feature and Bjork's acting is very good and very touching. The ending of the
film is quite sad but then I found it refreshing to not see another fake
happy end, de rigeur in Hollywood lately.
The infamous 100 cameras in my opinion have been just a publicity stunt from
the beginning. The film would more or less be the same without them. They
were apparently used only in the dance scenes but I was reading recently
that all close-ups were made with a DC30 with a DVCam back.
Picture quality overall was pretty impressive taking into account that it's
source is DV25 (the camera used is more or less is equivalent to a Sony DSR
500). The image was according to interviews I've read heavily de-saturated
to give it a 'fifties' (?) look and of course putting it onto 35mm film gave
it a real film-look.
Overall - very much recommended.
Rg, Karl
On 05/15/01 11:50 AM, "andrew kohl" wrote:
> I havent seen dancer in the dark....after seeing the *100 Eyes* doc I am
> not sure whether its important to me or not..the director stated that
> using 100 cameras was considered an experiment which they felt was
> successful..
>
> andrew
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:48:35 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID: <000601c0dd67$4457d230$4423a8c0@dell420>
>Does anyone know how they did the 16:9 on this? Did they shoot it in 4:3
and
>crop it in post? And does anyone know how they processed the video into
>film?
They made special anamorphic lenses for both the PD100 and higher end Sony
used for the non-musical info. There was a lot of post processing, but not
sure of the software used.
Rent the DVD for an extended look.
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"It can only be attributable to human error"
-HAL
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:53:03 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID: <000901c0dd67$e40e3440$4423a8c0@dell420>
I thought it is worthwhile film to see on DVD - probably mandatory if you
are DV filmmaker. The musical segments don't quite work completely for me
(von Triers says as much) but the commentary is quite illuminating as to the
tensions and issues they all faced, including tension between Bjork and
Lars. But even if you do not enjoy all of it, still recommended viewing
IMO, even just for pure technical reasons.
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"It can only be attributable to human error"
-HAL
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:48:44 +0200
From: "Fredrik Brofalk"
To:
Subject: Re: Selling DVC PRO
Message-ID: <007d01c0dd68$01afa740$d2a6143e@a010185156>
Hi Jan!
I doesn=1B$B!-=1B(Bt either understand the selling. But can you recomend =
a DVCPRO deck that works with all DV-formats and can transfer trough =
firewire both DV.DVCAM and DVCPRO to a editing system, probleby =
DV-Storm?
regards
Fredrik B
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: Selling DVC PRO
> While I can understand the selling of the Media 100, why sell the =
DVCPRO?
> The AJ-D230H and the 250 are fully compatible with the FCP 2.0 DVCPRO
> offers you a very robust archive and a bullet proof tape. =20
>=20
> Just curious,
>=20
> Jan
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michelle Svetlitski [mailto:michelle@trivue.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:00 AM
> > To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> > Subject: Selling DVC PRO
> >=20
> >=20
> > Does anyone know of any good sites to sell used video=20
> > equipment. We've just
> > about decided to dump our Media 100 XR and go with a new=20
> > Final Cut Pro 2
> > system. So, we're going to be selling our Panasonic DVC PRO=20
> > decks and our
> > Media 100 XR 7.0i, but we have no idea where to sell these things.
> >=20
> > Any info. is greatly appreciated!
> >=20
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Michelle Dunn
> > Trivue Entertainment
> > http://www.trivue.org
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
> > This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such=20
> > as http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,=20
> > http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of=20
> > its members.
> >=20
> > To contribute money: http://www.computervicestore.com/dvl.html
> > All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe:=20
> > http://www.DVCentral.org/thelist.html
> > DV-L archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DV-List/messages
> >=20
> -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
> This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as =
http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com, =
http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members.
>=20
> To contribute money: http://www.computervicestore.com/dvl.html
> All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: =
http://www.DVCentral.org/thelist.html
> DV-L archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DV-List/messages
>=20
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:06:11 -0500
From: tim.haupt@philips.com
To:
Cc:
Subject: location wireless and shotgun mics
Message-ID: <0056910012041229000002L192*@MHS>
>we are searching for better sound yet with another wireless
>and a short shotgun..
>anyone have good results with Azden? Audio technica?
>
>is the sennheiser MK300 sufficient for video as short shotgun?
>who is using what and are you happy with your results?
>
>thanks again..andrew
- - - - - - -=20
I've had outstanding results with the Sennheiser K6/ME66 combo. This i=
s a really nice set-up, super sensitive and quiet, and very professiona=
l looking to boot.
Also there are times when a short shotgun is not the best mic, so with =
the optional ME62 capsule this becomes an omni-directional, or with ME6=
4 capsule a cardiod.
This past weekend it was rather thrilling to see the theatrical screeni=
ng of a film I worked on two years ago - a low budget work of love whic=
h has turned out beautifully. And the audio was great, done with the a=
bove mic. So the K6/ME62/64/66 is up to=20
that kind of task; more versatile, wider application, better resale val=
ue.
I just took delivery of a Samson UM-32 diversity lavalier system - shou=
ld have it evaluated in the next couple of days, will report back to th=
e list.
Regards,
Tim Haupt
tim.haupt@philips.com=
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:10:26 -0700
From: Laurie Schmidt
To:
Subject: Sony PD 150 question
Message-ID:
I recently worked on a shoot where the DP used a PD-150. The DP told me
that what was being fed to the monitor was not what was going down on tape.
Is there a way around this so that I can monitor what is actually going down
to tape? The reason I ask is that when I went to digitize the field tape I
found much of it un-useable because AUTO-IRIS (or AUTO something!)apparently
was on and the light would change dramatically (based on character movement)
during scenes. Of course I didn't catch it on the monitor because it was
displaying something other than what was going down on tape....what it was
actually monitoring is another question.!
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:32:59 -0400
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: Sony PD 150 question
Message-ID: <01bb01c0dd6d$7e0e1600$6401a8c0@design1>
I've never heard of such a thing. What kind of monitor were you using? If it
was the built in LCD you have to be careful because it's characteristics are
much different than a standard CRT based monitor. With LCD monitors I see a
significant difference in brightness and contrast representations so I don't
trust them for qualitative evaluation just for composition. Of course I tend
to use manual iris control and the zebra for almost everything. If the
monitor was connected to the composite or s-video output there may an issue
with overscan but that should be all.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Schmidt"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: Sony PD 150 question
> I recently worked on a shoot where the DP used a PD-150. The DP told me
> that what was being fed to the monitor was not what was going down on
tape.
> Is there a way around this so that I can monitor what is actually going
down
> to tape? The reason I ask is that when I went to digitize the field tape
I
> found much of it un-useable because AUTO-IRIS (or AUTO
something!)apparently
> was on and the light would change dramatically (based on character
movement)
> during scenes. Of course I didn't catch it on the monitor because it was
> displaying something other than what was going down on tape....what it
was
> actually monitoring is another question.!
>
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:41:13 -0500
From: tim.haupt@philips.com
To:
Cc:
Subject: Omni / Uni
Message-ID: <0056910012042732000002L122*@MHS>
From: "masi"
To:
Subject: omni & uni directional mics ??
Message-ID: <004e01c0dd4d$50514ea0$a8254fca@a6r2y3>
Hi, Can someone please tell me what these terms mean when it comes to
microphones? Omni-directional and uni-directional.
I have a cheap (Sima) wired omni directional lav but can only get mono =
as
opposed to stereo out of it. I can't seem to figure out if it's just a
limitation of my lav or something to do with the camera (Canon ZR10).
Nothing on the literature or website for the mike explains whether it i=
s
stereo or not.
------------------------------
Your wired lav is only mono - there are no stereo lavilier mics. Notic=
e the plug - there is are only two contacts on it. A stereo mic would =
need three contacts, the third forming a ring between the "tip" and the=
"sleve". Stereo mics start at about=20
$30, typically use an internal battery, and if your camcorder is compat=
ible, plug right in. As you might expect, not all microphones are crea=
ted equal, so the price of better ones (quieter, more directional) runs=
up to $300 to well over $1000.
Omni means "all", as in God is omni present (everywhere). An omnitdire=
ctional microphone then picks up sound relatively equally from all dire=
ctions (although in reality the high frequency response is reduced some=
as you approach the rear). A=20
Uni-directional microphone favors front pick-up, but still has some pic=
k-up to the sides and less to the rear, so it is somewhat directional. =
For camcorders with a single microphone, these are generally engineere=
d to be uni-directional. Most camcorders=20
now have stereo microhones, but most are not particularly great - an ex=
ternal microphone is nearly always an improvement.=20
Tim Haupt
tim.haupt@philips.com=
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:51:40 -0700
From: kabbage
To:
Subject: JVC S3600U problem
Message-ID:
Anyone have trouble with their JVC S3600U VCR? Mine is refusing to play
tapes and powering down after I insert a tape. Any help???
kabbage
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:22:20 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
Message-ID: <52579F80B8C@vilas.uwex.edu>
Can I ask a probably quite naive question...
if Office 2000 or 98 or 97 (which I what I'm running) works for you,
why upgrade at all? What features can MS possibly pack into a
word processor to make it worth the trouble to migrate users to an
upgrade anyway?
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:27:23 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Selling DVCPRO
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A4AE7988@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
Fredrik,
For the DV Storm, it will be best to wait for the AJ-D455, it will do
conversions to a DV codec, since the DVStorm is based on strictly a DV
codec, no DVCPRO. The 455 will send it into the Storm as DV and then receive
it back as DV and make the conversion to DVCPRO in real time for the master
record. The 455 is due in July/August.
If you choose FCP, DV500 from Pinnacle, Canopus DVCPRO Raptor or Matrox
RT2000, or the Fast Purple, you could use the AJ-D230 or 250. Major
difference between these is the 250 will take a record in command whereas
the 230 is a manual push the record button.
Hope this helps,
Jan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fredrik Brofalk [mailto:fredrik.brofalk@home.se]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:49 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: Selling DVC PRO
>
>
> Hi Jan!
> I doesn´t either understand the selling. But can you recomend
> a DVCPRO deck that works with all DV-formats and can transfer
> trough firewire both DV.DVCAM and DVCPRO to a editing system,
> probleby DV-Storm?
>
> regards
> Fredrik B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Crittenden, Jan"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:40 PM
> Subject: RE: Selling DVC PRO
>
>
> > While I can understand the selling of the Media 100, why
> sell the DVCPRO?
> > The AJ-D230H and the 250 are fully compatible with the FCP
> 2.0 DVCPRO
> > offers you a very robust archive and a bullet proof tape.
> >
> > Just curious,
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michelle Svetlitski [mailto:michelle@trivue.org]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:00 AM
> > > To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> > > Subject: Selling DVC PRO
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of any good sites to sell used video
> > > equipment. We've just
> > > about decided to dump our Media 100 XR and go with a new
> > > Final Cut Pro 2
> > > system. So, we're going to be selling our Panasonic DVC PRO
> > > decks and our
> > > Media 100 XR 7.0i, but we have no idea where to sell these things.
> > >
> > > Any info. is greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michelle Dunn
> > > Trivue Entertainment
> > > http://www.trivue.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
> > > This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such
> > > as http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
> > > http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of
> > > its members.
> > >
> > > To contribute money: http://www.computervicestore.com/dvl.html
> > > All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe:
> > > http://www.DVCentral.org/thelist.html
> > > DV-L archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DV-List/messages
> > >
> > -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
> > This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors
> such as http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members.
>
> To contribute money: http://www.computervicestore.com/dvl.html
> All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe:
http://www.DVCentral.org/thelist.html
> DV-L archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DV-List/messages
>
-- (cut off when replying)-----------------
This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as
http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members.
To contribute money: http://www.computervicestore.com/dvl.html
All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe:
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DV-L archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DV-List/messages
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:47:23 -0400
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
Message-ID: <01f101c0dd78$505a8ee0$6401a8c0@design1>
The problem is when you can no longer get the version that's most popular in
your workgroup and someone's new computer comes with the newer version. Now
there's a built-in incompatibility between workers and since everyone has to
be at the same level and you can't get the older version everyone has to
upgrade. If it weren't for sharing files within a group it wouldn't be an
issue.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
> Can I ask a probably quite naive question...
>
> if Office 2000 or 98 or 97 (which I what I'm running) works for you,
> why upgrade at all? What features can MS possibly pack into a
> word processor to make it worth the trouble to migrate users to an
> upgrade anyway?
>
>
> Bruce A. Johnson
> Senior Videographer/Editor
> Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
>
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:04:45 +0000
From: Fogar
To:
Subject: When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010515200359.00aec748@popmail.libero.it>
Hello,
I'd like to know if proximately will ship a new small camera
like Sony TRV900 with a little bit better image qulity.
I take an interest about some small cameras.
Thanks.
bye Fogar
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:27:37 -0500
From: Thomas Giebink
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: a device to "throw" sound?
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010515152249.00d795c0@127.0.0.1>
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I'm looking for a device to 'throw sound' to a specific location.. this is
not the same as locating the sound relatively as happens in a stereo or
quad sound mix. Instead, the sound is ONLY heard at one specific physical
location. I know its been done.. is done... I've read articles on it. ...
but I've lost track of where. Its done by channeling the sound from two
positions and creating a "bright node". It can be done with light too...
lasers...
Has anyone seen anything on this or know anything about it?.. where to
start looking?
I know this is totally off topic but I thought someone here might have run
into this info
all best
tom
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I'm looking for a device to 'throw sound' to a specific location.. this is not the same as locating the sound relatively as happens in a stereo or quad sound mix. Instead, the sound is ONLY heard at one specific physical location. I know its been done.. is done... I've read articles on it. ... but I've lost track of where. Its done by channeling the sound from two positions and creating a "bright node". It can be done with light too... lasers...
Has anyone seen anything on this or know anything about it?.. where to start looking?
I know this is totally off topic but I thought someone here might have run into this info
all best
tom
--=====================_228354407==_.ALT--
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:25:30 -0700
From: kabbage
To:
Subject: Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
Message-ID:
Ahhh, what a beautiful scam mr. gates has going... like a dope dealer whose
customers never die.
> From: "Walt"
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:47:23 -0400
> To:
> Subject: Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
>
> The problem is when you can no longer get the version that's most popular in
> your workgroup and someone's new computer comes with the newer version. Now
> there's a built-in incompatibility between workers and since everyone has to
> be at the same level and you can't get the older version everyone has to
> upgrade. If it weren't for sharing files within a group it wouldn't be an
> issue.
>
> Walt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
>
>
>> Can I ask a probably quite naive question...
>>
>> if Office 2000 or 98 or 97 (which I what I'm running) works for you,
>> why upgrade at all? What features can MS possibly pack into a
>> word processor to make it worth the trouble to migrate users to an
>> upgrade anyway?
>>
>>
>> Bruce A. Johnson
>> Senior Videographer/Editor
>> Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
>>
>
>
> -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
> This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as
> http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
> http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members.
>
> To contribute money: http://www.computervicestore.com/dvl.html
> All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe:
> http://www.DVCentral.org/thelist.html
> DV-L archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DV-List/messages
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:22:25 -0500
From: Chris Novy
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sony PD 150 question
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010515161926.00a7fd60@www.whoitv.com>
At 11:10 AM 5/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I recently worked on a shoot where the DP used a PD-150. The DP told me
>that what was being fed to the monitor was not what was going down on tape.
Untrue. What you see *is* what you get. If the auto iris or auto shutter
are on you will see the effects on the monitor -you've just got to pay
attention.
..Chris..
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:17:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom T. Pauncz"
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: Re: DCR-VX2000
On Tue, 15 May 2001 07:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Charos wrote:
=>Do any of you experts here in DV land know if the
=>DCR-VX2000 has composite in, converted to firewire
=>out?
Bill,
A direct quote from my VX2K user guide p86:
"You can convert the analog input signal to the digital signal and output it from the DV In/OUT jack on this camcorder. You can
capture images and sound from an analog video unit connecting to a PC which has the i.Link (DV) jack to your camcorder"
The accompanying picture show input from a VCR and output through the FireWire to a PC for capture.
I think the short answer is YES.
Kind regards,
Tom Pauncz
__________________________________________________________________
>> voice: (416) 967-1030 fax: (416) 929-3805
>> e-mail: pauncz@attglobal.net
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:36:12 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: Re: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
Message-ID: <200105151636.AA99615008@mail.xiveren.com>
For great advice on all things Office related included extensive Office XP reports, go to:
http://www.woodyswatch.com/
--
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"It can only be attributable to human error"
-HAL
--
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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:22:59 +0200
From: "Ton Guiking"
To:
Subject: Re: When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
Message-ID: <017a01c0dd96$392f2dc0$18a36dc2@default>
I don't think they (Sony, that is)will bring out a new TRV900 soon. They
brought the VX2000 and PD150 as a successor of the VX1000 and also PD100. My
guess is that they will bring out some time a PC130 or so, a PC110 with 3
chips. MAYBE they will upgrade a TRV20 with 3 chips, that would more or less
make a successor of the TRV900.
Pana brought a new cam, the MX300 (PAL name, don't know NTSC). And a
successor for the Canon GL1 will not be here before a year and a half or so,
I think.
All guesses, though....
FWIW
Ton
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Fogar
Aan: dv-l@dvcentral.org
Datum: dinsdag 15 mei 2001 22:11
Onderwerp: When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
>Hello,
>I'd like to know if proximately will ship a new small camera
>like Sony TRV900 with a little bit better image qulity.
>I take an interest about some small cameras.
>Thanks.
>
> bye Fogar
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:24:26 -0500
From: Rik Albury
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: OT:Upgrade to Office XP?
Message-ID: <068C168376FFD411A6E100805F19999233FE53@misnts1.dalsemi.com>
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Bruce:
My company has and maintains hundreds (maybe even in the low
thousands) of PCs. For our own purposes, we have no reason
whatsoever to upgrade the Office software when a new release
comes out. It only becomes necessary when we want to exchange
documents with the outside world. Which, of course, is
immediately, every time a new rev comes out. We in IT try to
hold off, but our customers (the employees in other departments)
scream bloody murder, and we end up rolling out the upgrade.
If you were Bill Gates, wouldn't that sound like a good idea to
you?
-Rik.
-----Original Message-----
...
Can I ask a probably quite naive question...
What features can MS possibly pack into a
word processor to make it worth the trouble to migrate users to an
upgrade anyway?
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Bruce:
My company has and maintains hundreds (maybe even in the low
thousands) of PCs. For our own purposes, we have no reason
whatsoever to upgrade the Office software when a new release
comes out. It only becomes necessary when we want to exchange
documents with the outside world. Which, of course, is
immediately, every time a new rev comes out. We in IT try to
hold off, but our customers (the employees in other departments)
scream bloody murder, and we end up rolling out the upgrade.
If you were Bill Gates, wouldn't that sound like a good idea to
you?
-Rik.
-----Original Message-----
...
Can I ask a probably quite naive question...
What features can MS possibly pack into a
word processor to make it worth the trouble to migrate users to an
upgrade anyway?
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:34:45 -0400
From: "Ron Brown"
To:
Subject: Re: When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
Message-ID: <00bc01c0dd97$9f9d4be0$3a18a6d1@dsl.net>
How about an XL-2... and what will the new goodies be? Oh, you've already
discussed...?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ton Guiking"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
> I don't think they (Sony, that is)will bring out a new TRV900 soon. They
> brought the VX2000 and PD150 as a successor of the VX1000 and also PD100.
My
> guess is that they will bring out some time a PC130 or so, a PC110 with 3
> chips. MAYBE they will upgrade a TRV20 with 3 chips, that would more or
less
> make a successor of the TRV900.
> Pana brought a new cam, the MX300 (PAL name, don't know NTSC). And a
> successor for the Canon GL1 will not be here before a year and a half or
so,
> I think.
> All guesses, though....
> FWIW
> Ton
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Fogar
> Aan: dv-l@dvcentral.org
> Datum: dinsdag 15 mei 2001 22:11
> Onderwerp: When will ship a new Sony TRV900 camera?
>
>
> >Hello,
> >I'd like to know if proximately will ship a new small camera
> >like Sony TRV900 with a little bit better image qulity.
> >I take an interest about some small cameras.
> >Thanks.
> >
> > bye Fogar
>
>
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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 00:13:30 -0000
From: "michael pappas"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: No image in FCP capture window
Message-ID:
I have No image in capture window, I can control the VX2000, but I have
color bars in capture window with the phrase ( Preview Disabled ) over the
color bars. Did I set a setting some where and did not know it? Help!
PowerBook g3/400 pismo
FCP 1.2.5
VX2000
Michael Pappas
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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:48:32 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Dancer in the Dark
Message-ID:
Yes, I do recall that its been discussed to death. But I never actually got
to see for myself what the buzz was all about untill I saw it just recently
(and not even the entire movie, mind you). Is it actually a good film? Beats
me - all I'm concerned about is how good the shooter was with a PD100, and
how the transfer to film looked. I think for many of us DVers, "Dancing in
the Dark" is more like an affirmation of the posibilities of shooting in DV.
It kinda tells us aspiring filmakers that we can do it too someday, and
that's the good news with this film.
regards
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Grant [mailto:Mark.Grant@3dlabs.com]
Apologies if this is a subject which has been discussed to death here
before, but what is the general opinion of this movie? I have a friend who
raves about it, but after watching fifteen minutes of the VHS I really
didn't think much of it: it had its moments, particularly the multi-camera
dance sequence, but I would imagine the success it achieved was because of
the story and *despite* the shooting and editing style. Should I get hold of
the DVD sometime and watch the whole movie?
Mark
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:58:21 -0400
From: "Joel Nisson"
To:
Subject: Re: a device to "throw" sound?
Message-ID: <028701c0dda3$4e091640$06c3fea9@Dell>
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There is an article in today's (May 15) New York Times about an =
incredible new device that can focus sound on a single listener.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Thomas Giebink=20
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:27 PM
Subject: a device to "throw" sound?
I'm looking for a device to 'throw sound' to a specific location.. =
this is not the same as locating the sound relatively as happens in a =
stereo or quad sound mix. Instead, the sound is ONLY heard at one =
specific physical location. I know its been done.. is done... I've read =
articles on it. ... but I've lost track of where. Its done by =
channeling the sound from two positions and creating a "bright node". =
It can be done with light too... lasers...
Has anyone seen anything on this or know anything about it?.. where to =
start looking?
I know this is totally off topic but I thought someone here might have =
run into this info
all best
tom=20
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To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 = 4:27 PM
Subject: a device to "throw" = sound?
I'm looking for a device to 'throw = sound' to a=20 specific location.. this is not the same as locating the sound = relatively as=20 happens in a stereo or quad sound mix. Instead, the sound is = ONLY heard=20 at one specific physical location. I know its been done.. is = done...=20 I've read articles on it. ... but I've lost track of = where. Its=20 done by channeling the sound from two positions and creating a "bright = node". It can be done with light too... lasers...
Has = anyone seen=20 anything on this or know anything about it?.. where to start = looking?
I=20 know this is totally off topic but I thought someone here might have = run into=20 this info
all best
tom
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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:02:18 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: getting rid of tape completely via 1394
Message-ID:
Wasn't this the approach of the old Avid Camcutter camera? It was (I think)
essentially an Ikegami with a removable hard drive cartridge. Is this
camera/concept still around? I recall that the issue of "tape is still
cheaper" was the same argument used against it at the time.
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Jones [mailto:RJones@fullerton.edu]
Mini DV tape is still the cheapest 13 gigs of storage on the market.
Ross "how about recording financial data on DV tapes...;)..." Jones
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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:08:26 -0000
From: "Eduardo Betanzos"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: DVCAM, DVCPRO & PROFESSONAL DV
Message-ID:
What are the primary differences between these codecs?
Betanzos
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:15:07 -0700
From: "Lone Orchard Productions"
To:
Subject: RE: DVCAM, DVCPRO & PROFESSONAL DV
Message-ID:
What are the primary differences between these codecs?
Betanzos
See http://www.adamwilt.com/DV.html.
There are answers to many questions there.
Hope this helps,
Derek
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:54:17 EDT
From: Triglyph@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Dancer in the Dark - digital camera
Message-ID: <9c.e6e2427.283345d9@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/16/01 12:50:13 AM, Randy_Quimpo@ist-global.com writes:
<< Beats me - all I'm concerned about is how good the shooter was with a
PD100, and
how the transfer to film looked. >>
The film itself was shot with a Sony DC-30 with a DVCam back. Only the
multicamera dance sequences were shot with the PD100. While the DV format is
the same, the camera itself is around $20,000. The DV back is only $6000,
which is a pretty good price.
I'd be curious if anyone knows what lens they used on the Sony, as video
lenses can vary widely in quality.
b.
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:04:28 -0500
From: Thomas Giebink
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: a device to "throw" sound?
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thank you so much! ... that's exactly what I've been looking for
all best
tom
At 07:58 PM 5/15/01, you wrote:
>There is an article in today's (May 15) New York Times about an incredible
>new device that can focus sound on a single listener.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Thomas Giebink
>To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:27 PM
>Subject: a device to "throw" sound?
>
>I'm looking for a device to 'throw sound' to a specific location.. this is
>not the same as locating the sound relatively as happens in a stereo or
>quad sound mix. Instead, the sound is ONLY heard at one specific physical
>location. I know its been done.. is done... I've read articles on it. ...
>but I've lost track of where. Its done by channeling the sound from two
>positions and creating a "bright node". It can be done with light too...
>lasers...
>
>Has anyone seen anything on this or know anything about it?.. where to
>start looking?
>
>I know this is totally off topic but I thought someone here might have run
>into this info
>
>all best
>tom
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thank you so much! ... that's exactly what I've been looking for
all best
tom
At 07:58 PM 5/15/01, you wrote:
There is an article in today's (May 15) New York Times about an incredible new device that can focus sound on a single listener.
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Giebink
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:27 PM
Subject: a device to "throw" sound?
I'm looking for a device to 'throw sound' to a specific location.. this is not the same as locating the sound relatively as happens in a stereo or quad sound mix. Instead, the sound is ONLY heard at one specific physical location. I know its been done.. is done... I've read articles on it. ... but I've lost track of where. Its done by channeling the sound from two positions and creating a "bright node". It can be done with light too... lasers...
Has anyone seen anything on this or know anything about it?.. where to start looking?
I know this is totally off topic but I thought someone here might have run into this info
all best
tom
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:41:21 -0700
From: "Fred Greissing"
To:
Subject: RE: a device to "throw" sound?
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Hi Tom
Device to "throw sound"??? Did you get a job with the KGB, FBI or MI5
How are you doing? Good to see you at NAB I wish I had been able to do more
than
one day at NAB.
Best
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Giebink [mailto:giebink@nonothing.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:28 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: a device to "throw" sound?
I'm looking for a device to 'throw sound' to a specific location.. this is
not the same as locating the sound relatively as happens in a stereo or quad
sound mix. Instead, the sound is ONLY heard at one specific physical
location. I know its been done.. is done... I've read articles on it. ...
but I've lost track of where. Its done by channeling the sound from two
positions and creating a "bright node". It can be done with light too...
lasers...
Has anyone seen anything on this or know anything about it?.. where to
start looking?
I know this is totally off topic but I thought someone here might have run
into this info
all best
tom
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Device=20 to "throw sound"??? Did you get a job with the KGB, FBI or=20 MI5
How=20 are you doing? Good to see you at NAB I wish I had been able to do more=20 than
one=20 day at NAB.
Best
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Giebink=20 [mailto:giebink@nonothing.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 = 1:28=20 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: a device to = "throw"=20 sound?
I'm looking for a device to = 'throw=20 sound' to a specific location.. this is not the same as locating the = sound=20 relatively as happens in a stereo or quad sound mix. Instead, = the sound=20 is ONLY heard at one specific physical location. I know its been = done..=20 is done... I've read articles on it. ... but I've lost track of=20 where. Its done by channeling the sound from two positions = and=20 creating a "bright node". It can be done with light too...=20 lasers...
Has anyone seen anything on this or know anything = about it?..=20 where to start looking?
I know this is totally off topic but I = thought=20 someone here might have run into this info
all = best
tom=20
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:26:55 -0600
From: Francois Camoin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: No image in FCP capture window
Message-ID: <3B01F380.F15D473E@qwest.net>
Michael:
Best guess is you have caps lock key turned on.
Francois Camoin
michael pappas wrote:
>
> I have No image in capture window, I can control the VX2000, but I have
> color bars in capture window with the phrase ( Preview Disabled ) over the
> color bars. Did I set a setting some where and did not know it? Help!
>
> PowerBook g3/400 pismo
> FCP 1.2.5
> VX2000
>
> Michael Pappas
> _________________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:09:13 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Not quite a RAID but still a Promise
Message-ID:
I am aware now that for DV editing purposes, there is no advantage in using
a RAID (if drive throughput is the main objective). Is there any advantage,
however, if I connect four drives into a Promise controller, but configure
each as a separate drive? My objective is to save on CPU utilization by
letting the Promise Fastrack card control the drives. Is this a useless idea
or does it hold Promise? Is saving on CPU utilization really a big deal?
regards
Randy Quimpo
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