DV-L                           Mon, 28 May 2001          Volume 1 : Number 869


In this issue:


        Re: DVCAM vs miniDV
        Sony TRV900 and VX1000 what differences of image quality? 
        Re: Training CD and CD programs 
        Re: Training CD and CD programs 
        Re: Sony TRV900 and VX1000 what differences of image quality? 
        Re: PREMIERE FLOATING OBJECT
        Re: Mics for People Around a Table?
        RE: Training CD and CD programs 
        Re: solar chargers for Canon XL1?
        RE: DVCAM vs miniDV 
        Re: travel tripod suggestions?
        FCP Effect
        Playback to DV device
        Duplicating Timecode?
        RE: FCP Effect
        Re: XL1 Owners:  Cooke Primes lens available for XL1
        re: Dsr 11 or DSR 20? - detailed comparison
        RE: Training CD and CD programs 
        virus attack
        List strangeness--Virus attack??
        RE: Using 100 zebra (v 70, 80, etc)
        Re: virus attack
        RE: Canopus MPEG card
        Re: PD-150 adjustment?
        Best Production Music?
        RE: Training CD and CD programs 
        OT: OFF: Possible virus alert: mail from John Haskins
        RE: List strangeness--Virus attack??
        .pif file virus attack
        Virus - turn off Address book now!
        Re: Canopus MPEG card
        Re: Virus - turn off Address book now!



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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 01:05:37 -0700
From: Aleksandr Milewski 
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DVCAM vs miniDV
Message-ID: 


At 9:03 PM -0400 on 5/26/01, John Jackman commanded the electrons to 
create a missive titled "Re: DVCAM vs miniDV":
|At 12:34 AM 5/25/01 -0700, Fred Greissing wrote:
|>The recording heads of a DV and mini DV are the same. The wider track is
|>only produced because of higher tape speed. Remember the recording is done
|>on a helical track, that is what is confusing people.
|
|The tape speed across the heads only affects the track angle, not 
the track width.


Hang on, don't confuse track pitch and track width. Tape speed will 
affect track pitch. Most discussions seem to play fast and loose with 
track width and track pitch, so I can't tell anything about what the 
real specs for DV/DVCAM/DVCPRO are. (Jan? Can you shed some light 
here?)


|The track width is determined by the width of the head, which is in 
fact wider - DVCAM head is 15 microns, DV is 10 microns.  If the 
DVCAM head were the same size, it would write a 10 micron track with 
a blank 5 micron guard band before the next track.


Again, track width and track pitch aren't necessarily the same, but 
it wouldn't surprise me to find out that the heads are the same 
width. Remember that the motivation behind DVCAM was to get a wider 
track pitch for linear editors. Track width doesn't necessarily help. 
This could also explain the DSR-11, which can write both formats. 
While it might have two sets of heads, I'd be very surprised.


|>The fact that a DV CAM machine can read a DV tape is proof of this, because
|>if the DV CAM head was wider it would be reading one and a half track and
|>that would result in garbled data.
|
|No, the heads are set to different azimuths.


This is a slightly confusing statement. Alternate heads on the drum 
are set to alternating azimuths. These azimuths must be the same for 
DV and DVCAM, otherwise the tapes wouldn't interchange. But alternate 
tracks get written with alternate azimuths, so you don't get any 
interference from adjacent tracks. A 15u DVCAM head would indeed read 
1/4 of each adjacent track, but since the azimuth is different, you 
don't get much signal in the head. This is one of the fundamental 
aspects of helical scan recording, it lets you dispense with 
guard-bands and trim-erase heads.


You can't tell me that cheap consumer gear has a second set of heads 
at a different azimuth to play DVCAM tapes.


|This is done even on better multi-speed VHS VCRs, where separate 
heads optimized for EP and SP are used, the player autosenses the 
proper head to read with.


I've never noticed this. What's different about the heads?


-Zandr
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Aleksandr Milewski                                              N6MOD
n6mod@milewski.org                           http://www.milewski.org/


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:21:34 +0000
From: Fogar 
To: 
Subject: Sony TRV900 and VX1000 what differences of image quality? 
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010527101532.00af3ad8@popmail.libero.it>


Hello,
I have got a Sony VX9000 and VX1000 cameras.
I'd like to replacle my Sony VX9000 with a Sony TRV900 camera.
What differences of image quality between two cameras?
They are very similar? Can I acknowledge about their differences?


           Thanks  Fogar


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 07:31:52 -0500
From: "Jesse Brede" 
To: 
Subject: Re: Training CD and CD programs 
Message-ID: <000b01c0e6a9$024aec60$70d11942@austin.rr.com>


possibly power point
i know you can use quicktime and put hyperlinks in it.
hope that helps
maybe not professional enough
----- Original Message -----
From: "GeoffJak" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:18 AM
Subject: Training CD and CD programs



> I have been asked to bid on a series of cd based training programs for a
bank. This cd based  program will include video, a little
> animation, audio and several layers of questions that take us through the
training program. At the end of each module, the
> particpant clicks for an assessment which automates a score.
>
> It would be a question and answer scenario where there might be several
potential correct answers, only one is correct and the
> others explaining to what degree they are correct/ incorrect. Then you
click/move on to the next question or hyperlink / move into
> another direction within the program.
>
> What programs are there out there to combine dv and audio with a program I
can customize for this training program...please...
>
> TIA
> Geoff
>
>
>
> -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:42:36 +0900
From: jhogg 
To: 
Subject: Re: Training CD and CD programs 
Message-ID: <200105271242.VAA19079@apm01.m2.ocv.ne.jp>


I'd have to say Director.


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:04:29 -0400
From: "Walt" 
To: 
Subject: Re: Sony TRV900 and VX1000 what differences of image quality? 
Message-ID: <007101c0e6ad$95956320$6601a8c0@design1>


I have both a VX-1000 and a TRV-900 and the picture quality on both is quite
good but the VX-1000 is slightly better. The bigger considerations for me
are the better audio and image stabilization of the VX-1000 and the smaller,
lighter, and longer battery life of the TRV-900. Both cameras have a place
but I prefer the VX-1000 most of the time. If I could only have one camera
and I was buying it today it would be the PD-150. The PD-150 has better low
light performance than either the VX-1000 or the TRV-900 plus XLR inputs and
good battery life. If size and cost weren't a major consideration it would
definitely be the PD-150.


Walt


----- Original Message -----
From: "Fogar" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: Sony TRV900 and VX1000 what differences of image quality?



> Hello,
> I have got a Sony VX9000 and VX1000 cameras.
> I'd like to replacle my Sony VX9000 with a Sony TRV900 camera.
> What differences of image quality between two cameras?
> They are very similar? Can I acknowledge about their differences?
>
>            Thanks  Fogar
>
>


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:17:18 -0400
From: "bullardc" 
To: 
Subject: Re: PREMIERE FLOATING OBJECT
Message-ID: <002301c0e6af$5ac81060$9a0f850a@hppav>


how does it work with the dv storm canopus/


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:23:05 -0400
From: Charles Molnar 
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: Mics for People Around a Table?
Message-ID: <3B10FFB9.9A827957@worldnet.att.net>


Would a Crown SASS-P suspended (out of camera field-of-view) above the
table work?  What's your intended use for the video/audio? Is a
stereo (binaural) recording OK?  If you use the Crown, the camera axis
should be on axis with the camera.


Chuck Molnar


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:27:59 -0400
From: "Christopher Van Nest" 
To: 
Subject: RE: Training CD and CD programs 
Message-ID: 


I used to develop educational multimedia titles in a former life (see
http://www.smarter-by-design.com/). We custom developed almost all of our
materials using Oracle's now defunct Oracle Media Objects (OMO) and then
later mFactory's now defunct mTropolis. I haven't done any development
lately-- too much work to do with television-- but if I had to do it again
I'd look into:


*Director or Authorware
Probably the most well known integrated solutions, although either might be
a lot to learn all at once if you're just starting out. Also likely to be
expensive.


*Tribeworks iShell
An alternative integrated solution at
http://www.tribeworks.com/member/index.asp. I downloaded the demo and it
looks like you can accomplish quite a bit without complex scripting, but
also might be a bit expensive.


*HTML & Flash
Depending upon what content you had to have local and what your network
requirements are, you could base the video files locally and build a dynamic
interface with Flash/HTML around them. This probably has the most appeal if
you're on a budget and want flexibility, although you have to know a bit
about coding (JavaScript, database, etc). In particular, Flash has a set of
"Learning Extensions" that might be appropriate for quizzing-- visit
http://www.macromedia.com/exchange/flash/ and choose "Learning Extensions"
from the "browse extensions" drop-down. Perhaps a combination of QuickTime
and Flash might be worth looking into as well.


*HTML & Microsoft
Microsoft has quite a bit of info at
http://www.microsoft.com/education/default.asp, but it requires a bit of
digging at their site for a total package. They have some server routines
that get integrated into FrontPage (if that's what you'd be using) for
quizzing and a Teacher's CD at
http://www.microsoft.com/education/product/cdoffer.asp, which are both
pretty low cost.


*Do a Google Search
If none of these seem appropriate, or you're just looking for additional
information, you'd be well served to do an Internet search on
learning/development software. For example, I came across these two which
seem to have some promise: http://www.readygo.com/,
http://www.blackboard.com/, and
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Online-Training/Delivery_
and_Management_Systems/ for the Google search.


Without knowing more about your client's needs, I'd say the Flash "Learning
Extensions" looks the most promising. But in any case, I'd generally
recommend that you find a package (even if it's HTML/database-based) that
already has quizzing and learning built in unless you have the time and
expertise to design and troubleshoot it yourself. Working out those details
often take a surprising amount of time that can really eat into your bottom
line and productivity-- been there, done that, as they say.


Good luck!


-Christopher
____________________________
Host/Producer FREESPORT-TV
http://www.freesport-tv.com/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: GeoffJak [mailto:images@indosat.net.id]
> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:19 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Training CD and CD programs
>
>
> I have been asked to bid on a series of cd based training
> programs for a bank. This cd based  program will include video, a little
> animation, audio and several layers of questions that take us
> through the training program. At the end of each module, the
> particpant clicks for an assessment which automates a score.
>
> It would be a question and answer scenario where there might be
> several potential correct answers, only one is correct and the
> others explaining to what degree they are correct/ incorrect.
> Then you click/move on to the next question or hyperlink / move into
> another direction within the program.
>
> What programs are there out there to combine dv and audio with a
> program I can customize for this training program...please...
>
> TIA
> Geoff


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:32:56 -0400
From: 
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: solar chargers for Canon XL1?
Message-ID: 


>Hi,
>
>I'm going to be shooting in the Karakoram mountains of northern Pakistan
>this summer and will not have access to electricity.  I'm trying to track
>down a solar system that I can use to charge the batteries for my XL1.  I'm
>thinking about the SunCatcher Expedition but am still not sure if it's
>fully compatible and I don't want to fry the batteries.  does anyone have
>any experience using solar power to charge the XL1?  Grateful for any
>advice and if you could, please reply to me off-list.


Why off list?!!!


I want to know this too.  ;)


jmerser


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:11:02 -0700
From: "Fred Greissing" 
To: 
Subject: RE: DVCAM vs miniDV 
Message-ID: 


Hi John


Are you saying that the TRV-900 has both 10 micro and 15 micron heads?


DVCAM recorder on a TRV-900 with it's memory page settings modified to
record DVCAM is recognized as DVCAM by another Player.


Fred


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:40:51 -0700
From: "Joseph Karr O'Connor" 
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: travel tripod suggestions?
Message-ID: <3B113C23.C274F73@earthlink.net>


Thanks to Phil Pratt for the http://www.ebags.com/ suggestion, a good
place to purchase cheap travel cases, and the referral to the Slik 8000
tripod. Some of the carbon fiber Slik 'pods are very lightweight, like
the PRO 804 CF sticks which are 1.2kg. That's without the head of
course.


Thank you jhogg for the monopod suggestion. Good tip on using a monopod
as a steady tracker replacement. I use an old beat-up still camera
tripod as a steady tracker and it has the added benefit of being able to
be set down wherever I choose to place it, as opposed to the monopod
which requires a hand to balance. The monopod is great in audiences
where you can raise the camera up over the crowd.


Tughollow weighed in with the following suggestion:
http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/Store.cfm?Search=hollywood+tripod


That link takes you to the Hollywood Fluid Tripod by Acme, a US$79.00
bargain at Markertek. I still own a Hollywood tripod I bought cheaply in
the late 70's. It's a still camera tripod and it doesn't function so
well by now, but I keep it in my car for steady tracker duty and for
emergencies and it has saved the day many times.


Here are some of the specs on the Hollywood Fluid Tripod by Acme:


Fluid heads with independent pan & tilt locks 
Large quick release plates 
Bubble levels 
Fine tolerance legs with quick release latches 
Rubber/Spiked leg ends 
Economically priced 
5 Year Warranty 
Maximum Height: 58" 
Closed Length: 23" 
Weight: 4 lbs.


Note the 4 lbs. weight. Just about the lightest I've found in several
days of searching, including premium carbon fiber sticks from the big
names. Indeed, this tripod with head is lighter than many heads alone.
Of course I don't expect it to be a premium tripod at that price, but
the weight and small size are what I want.


I'll do some more research and post what I find.


Thanks for the suggestions!


Joseph


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:51:30 -0700
From: Mark Wade 
To: DV-L 
Subject: FCP Effect
Message-ID: 


I'd like to have a portion of a scene play backwards, and speeded up.  I'm
using FCP 2.0.  Thanks for the help, mark.


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:28:18 +0100
From: paul branfield 
To: "'dv-l@dvcentral.org'" 
Subject: Playback to DV device
Message-ID: <01C0E6E3.341F3900.paulbranfield@telco4u.net>


I have been trying for the last 8 weeks to transfer to my DV device Sony 
GV-D900DE-PAL a 50 min long Project.
I am using a Pinnacle DV300 card with Premiere 5.1a.
After any length of time it skips frames, 34 mins is the longest, 3 mins 
the shortest.
All I have running before launching Premiere is systray and explorer.


I have been advised that this is not the best card around and that I should 
try the Canopus EZDV card bundled together with Premiere 6.


I downloaded from the Canopus site their EZDVtest and checked my system.
Which is
Windows 98 SE
Pentium III 500 MHz with 256 MB
DirectDraw overlay
PCI BIOS version 2.16
Chip Set Intel 82443BX
Drive C 20 GB Ultra 66 IDE Read / Write 18 MB/S
Drive D 20 GB Ultra 66 IDE Read / Write 17 MB/S
The PCI timer Latency is 32 and unchangeable on my Abit BE6 Motherboard.


The card uses IRQ 9 and this is not shared with anything else.


As this seemed to match their requirements I have bought and installed this 
card after reformatting my C drive and reloading everything from scratch.


I captured 2 video clips with no problems. But when I try to play back in 
either Premiere or EZEdit the system hangs after anything from 30secs to 6 
mins.


I now seem to be in a bigger mess than before and feel that there must be 
something fundamentally wrong with my computer.


I feel that I want to return the Canopus card which I only bought 3 days 
ago and spend the money on updating the computer.


But what should I change ???


Paul Branfield


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 01:10:12 -0700
From: Aleksandr Milewski 
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Duplicating Timecode?
Message-ID: 


I need to collaborate with someone at a different site on a project. 
While the wonders of the net make this possible, moving media over 
the net is out of the question. This leaves me needing to make a copy 
of my source tapes and preserve timecode. (or at least make two 
copies with identical timecodes)


At my disposal, I have an FCP 2.0 system on a G4, 2 GL-1's, a WV-DR7, 
and a DSR-20. My understanding is that these devices don't accept 
timecode over firewire.


Can anyone suggest how I might get two copies with matching timecode?


Thanks,
        Zandr
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Aleksandr Milewski                                              N6MOD
n6mod@milewski.org                           http://www.milewski.org/


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:52:38 +0200
From: "Drakes" 
To: 
Subject: RE: FCP Effect
Message-ID: <00c501c0e6de$333392c0$0a01a8c0@ATHLON>


This can be easily done under modify>speed.  Select the percentage of
the speed that you want, and then underneath the percentage, click
'reverse.'  Then you can sit back and wait for the render.


Hope that this helps.


Ciao,


George W. Fisher
Prague, Cz


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Wade [mailto:digidog@frazmtn.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 19:51
To: DV-L
Subject: FCP Effect


I'd like to have a portion of a scene play backwards, and speeded up.
I'm
using FCP 2.0.  Thanks for the help, mark.


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:22:20 -0700
From: Adam Wilt 
To: DV-L 
Subject: Re: XL1 Owners:  Cooke Primes lens available for XL1
Message-ID: <3B1161FC.63866E00@flash.net>


> > Good news and bad news.  ZRG, a British company that specialized in film
> > gear, and also in cool XL1 stuff is now offering an adapter to enable
> > the use of Cooke film lens on an XL1....
> > This means you can hook your XL1 to and get the the same angle
> > of view and depth of field as a 35mm camera.
> 
> Not even remotely true.
> 
> Angle of view and depth of field are properties of optical physics, not
> patent properties of brands.


Erm, I believe this adapter is a "relay lens" assembly which optically
downconverts a 35mm format aperture imaging plane to the XL1's 1/3" CCD. As a
result the angle of view and depth of field are indeed the same as would be
had with the same lenses on a 35mm motion picture camera.


The same scheme was used on Panavision's first EC cameras, the Panacam and
Panacam Gold, back in the early '80s. 35mm Panavision primes and zooms could
be fitted to the 2/3" (tube) NTSC videocamera and the rig used just like a
Panaflex: same DOF, same angles. 


When I asked Panny folks why they had not done the same with their rework of
the HDW-F900 instead of making new lenses, they said that they did not feel
they could get the same optical quality through a relay-lens assembly, and
that 1920x1080 digital imaging was sharp enough for the difference to be
visible.


With SDTV-resolution imaging however the relay-lens method is a perfectly
viable strategy.


Cheers,
Adam Wilt


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:17:08 -0400
From: Saman Faraz 
To: 
Cc: 
Subject: re: Dsr 11 or DSR 20? - detailed comparison
Message-ID: 


From: "Walt & Sue Johnston" 
> 
> The differences I see are:
> 
> DSR-20 has --- timecode panel (dsr-11 shows it on a monitor),
> NTSC only in/out, 11 lbs, audio controls, stands flat, no mini-dv
> recording, rs-232 output
> 
> DSR-11 has --- timecode on output signal (can turn on/off),
> PAL/NTSC in/out, 6 lbs,  slightly smaller, stands flat or sideways,
> dust-cover flap, mini-dv recording, looks more industrial (internally
> stronger?)
> 
> Similarities --- 120v or 12DC, play mini-dv & dv-cam, record dv-
> cam, dv in & out, s-video in & out, control S, auto repeat play
> 
> Anybody have additions or corrections?


one correction/clarification - the DSR 20 does put TC on the monitor as well
as on the panel display.  It has two sets of outputs for audio/video in the
back.  One labeled "Monitor" and one labeled "Output".  The "Output" is just
straight video.  The other one, "monitor", can put TC, date/time, and other
data (e.g. f/stop etc) on to the video signal.  The display of this extra
info is controlled by the hand held remote.


hth,
Saman


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:03:22 -0700
From: "Lone Orchard Productions" 
To: 
Subject: RE: Training CD and CD programs 
Message-ID: 


What programs are there out there to combine dv and audio with a program I
can customize for this training program...please...
==================
What I am currently testing is using HTML & QuickTime Pro, this has been
recommended by others on this list, as Director isn't cross platform unless
you develop with two computers.


So far, so good.


Derek


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:43:29 -0700
From: "Joseph Karr O'Connor" 
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: virus attack
Message-ID: <3B119F31.D9B3713D@earthlink.net>


I've logged two direct attempts to pass a virus to my computer from two
different addresses, both quoting messages I've posted to this list in
the last day and a half. Both messages were addresed directly to me and
came with attachments containing the virii. Both virus laden attachments
were .piffile format. I won't go into any more details here. Both
messages had the same curiously mis-constructed sentence after the
quote: "Look to the following attachment." If you receive any email with
attachments purporting to be mail directly addressed to you outside the
list, especially if they are .piffile format, please consider deleting
them directly. I'll log the names from here on in, but I believe they
are fake anyway. The second one was from "Dr.____" presumably to lend
some authority to the attempt.


I'm going to have to read "He, She, and It" by Marge Piercy again. I
highly recommend it:-)


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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:13:30 +0900
From: jhogg 
To: 
Subject: List strangeness--Virus attack??
Message-ID: <200105280113.KAA26923@apm01.m2.ocv.ne.jp>


I recently posted messages on three topics. For two of them I received 
direct mail from one John Haskins, who doesn't seem to post on the DV-L 
list. The subjects' of the messages were the same as mine The two 
messages were basically my messages with a message at the bottom 
indicating I should read the attachment. Both messages came with 
attachments, although they are different files. 


The attached files were:
Sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif
Pics.ZIP.scr


I deleted the attachments without reading them. Has anyone else received 
messages from John Haskins?


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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:52:25 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo 
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Using 100 zebra (v 70, 80, etc)
Message-ID: 


Good day, fellows


One thing we should NOT FORGET when discussing zebra is that although it is
a good reference point, you STILL have to learn how to judge exposure. I
find using the zebra stripes indispensable, but I have also learned to
compansate depending on the subject and lighting conditions, as well as how
your own camera responds. 


FWIW,


Randy Quimpo


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:44:12 -1100
From: "TJ Lavata'i" 
To: 
Subject: Re: virus attack
Message-ID: <001d01c0e717$b30531a0$974b4dc6@lavapro>


Yup -


I got one too....
It was very rude, even telling me I was fat.



TJ Lavata'i
Am Samoa


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Karr O'Connor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: virus attack



| I've logged two direct attempts to pass a virus to my computer from two
| different addresses, both quoting messages I've posted to this list in
| the last day and a half. Both messages were addresed directly to me and
| came with attachments containing the virii. Both virus laden attachments
| were .piffile format. I won't go into any more details here. Both
| messages had the same curiously mis-constructed sentence after the
| quote: "Look to the following attachment." If you receive any email with
| attachments purporting to be mail directly addressed to you outside the
| list, especially if they are .piffile format, please consider deleting
| them directly. I'll log the names from here on in, but I believe they
| are fake anyway. The second one was from "Dr.____" presumably to lend
| some authority to the attempt.
|
| I'm going to have to read "He, She, and It" by Marge Piercy again. I
| highly recommend it:-)
| -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
| This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as
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http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members.
|
| To contribute money: http://www.computervicestore.com/dvl.html
| All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe:
http://www.DVCentral.org/thelist.html
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|


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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:59:46 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo 
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Canopus MPEG card
Message-ID: 


Hi Walt


Are you happy with the image quality? The big question in the minds of most
everyone regarding MPEG conversion is whether the conversion method
(hardware vs software) allows you to output quality comparable to commercial
VCD products. I have heard from this list that the Panasonic encoder will
allow you to get better image quality than many hardware converters, and the
quality (IMHO) IS pretty good. If speed is not an issue, will the Canopus
output better quality? And yes, I would like to hear how you do with the
MPEG2 on CDR, and if it works for you and your clientele.


regards


Randy Quimpo



-----Original Message-----
From: Walt [mailto:wwimberly@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:11 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Canopus MPEG card



Randy,


I have the MPEG card for the DVRexRT and the big difference for me was the
speed of conversion. I haven't used it for MPEG 2 yet but with conversions
to MPEG 1 it was not real-time. It turned out being about 2x in my case but
there was a lot of rescaling going on as well as the compression. It's still
much faster than a 10x - 20x software compression. The other nice feature is
that you can export to MPEG directly from the Premiere Timeline so when your
projects complete it just becomes the final step. I hope to get a new DVD
player soon and Spruce-Up so I can try the MPEG 2 DVD program on CD-R media
process until the DVD-R fight settles down and a clear winner emerges.


Walt


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:17:50 -0400
From: John Jackman 
To: 
Subject: Re: PD-150 adjustment?
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010527221451.00a9e7e0@pop.compuserve.com>


At 12:46 AM 5/26/01 -0700, NewsmanSGW wrote:
>Is there an adjustment to the PD-150 that can be made to stop the flicker of
>computer monitors that are in the shot, usually in the bg during interviews.
>(Yeah, I know I can turn off the monitors, but just curious is I could do
>anything BUT that.)


Tips on this at:


http://www.greatdv.com/production/shootmonitors.htm


No clearscan on PD-150, but you can reset the scan rate of the monitors to 
60 hz.


John Jackman


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:48:34 EDT
From: PlainJaneE@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Best Production Music?
Message-ID: <36.168eb66c.28432492@aol.com>


I've just about finished a project and decided it needs a little music for 
background and scene transition here and there...nothing too upbeat or new 
age, no salsa or country or hip hop beat, I just want some good background to 
support the voiceover.  The theme in this news-style film is mental illness 
in deaf people, so I need serious but not too dark, either.


Who has found a suitable collection along these lines, preferably something 
that doesn't cost a fortune?  Would appreciate referral to any particular 
music offering URL or even a good source in general, as there seem to be 
thousands! 


Thanks for the help!


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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:07:43 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo 
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Training CD and CD programs 
Message-ID: 


Probably the best tool to use for this is Macromedia Authorware, but its
darned pricey. It can be programmed very quickly...it can handle audio and
video clips, plus it has functions that help make it very easy to come up
with a score. You can program it without coding (its so-called icon-based
structure), but it also allows you to make little scripts that do specific
things. 


Director (and its close sibling, Flash) allows you to do fancy animation
(which Authorware is a clunker in) but its also a clunker at keeping track
of scores and such since you have to program in this function yourself (for
that matter, you can program Director to dial a telephone but that's beyond
us video types). In conclusion: for this type of project, Authorware is the
way to go.


Randy Quimpo


-----Original Message-----
From: GeoffJak [mailto:images@indosat.net.id]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:19 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Training CD and CD programs 



I have been asked to bid on a series of cd based training programs for a
bank. 


TIA
Geoff


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:06:42 -0700
From: Adam Wilt 
To: John Haskins , DV-L 
Subject: OT: OFF: Possible virus alert: mail from John Haskins
Message-ID: <3B11DCE2.1CCFA224@flash.net>


Caution: I received an email from the Outlook Express client of John Haskins,
which quoted back to me an incomplete chunk of a posting I made to DV-L,
followed by the line "Take a look to the attachment." and with a file
"fun.pif" attached.


"fun.pif" appeared to be a Windows executable, not a PIF file at all, and I
replied to Mr. Haskins to inquire as to whether he has purposefully sent me
such a file.


I then received back my reply, quoted the same way and again terminated
halfway through, the same admonition to view an attachment, and the file
"humor.txt.pif". Danger, Will Robinson, danger...


I can't find a CERT advisory on wonky .pif files, but suspect a virus is
making the rounds. Exercise caution with any attachments (the .pif extension
may not be shown if you're using Outlook; it doesn't show up in Win95 Explorer
even with "show extensions" turned on).


No worries for hose of you on MacOS, GNU/Linux, and other unices (?).


Cheers,
Adam "just 'cause you're paranoid don't mean they ain't out to get you" Wilt


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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:10:32 -0700
From: "Cindy" 
To: 
Subject: 
Message-ID: <011701c0e734$8932d720$410efbcf@cindy>


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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:12:36 +0200
From: "Drakes" 
To: 
Subject: RE: List strangeness--Virus attack??
Message-ID: <010e01c0e73d$3117f990$0a01a8c0@ATHLON>


I received the same virus from 'John Haskins' after posting to the list.


George W. Fisher


Prague, Cz



-----Original Message-----
From: jhogg [mailto:jhogg@mac.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 03:14
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: List strangeness--Virus attack??


I recently posted messages on three topics. For two of them I received 
direct mail from one John Haskins, who doesn't seem to post on the DV-L 
list. The subjects' of the messages were the same as mine The two 
messages were basically my messages with a message at the bottom 
indicating I should read the attachment. Both messages came with 
attachments, although they are different files. 


The attached files were:
Sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif
Pics.ZIP.scr


I deleted the attachments without reading them. Has anyone else received


messages from John Haskins?


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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:55:50 -0700
From: "masi" 
To: 
Subject: .pif file virus attack
Message-ID: <004d01c0e7a8$31e09e20$892c4fca@a6r2y3>


So does anyone know how to get rid of this .pif file virus from John
Haskins? It's annoying!! ...and I wonder if it's doing anymore damage to my
system?
masi


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Karr O'Connor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: virus attack



> I've logged two direct attempts to pass a virus to my computer from two
> different addresses, both quoting messages I've posted to this list in
> the last day and a half. Both messages were addresed directly to me and
> came with attachments containing the virii. Both virus laden attachments
> were .piffile format. I won't go into any more details here. Both
> messages had the same curiously mis-constructed sentence after the
> quote: "Look to the following attachment." If you receive any email with
> attachments purporting to be mail directly addressed to you outside the
> list, especially if they are .piffile format, please consider deleting
> them directly. I'll log the names from here on in, but I believe they
> are fake anyway. The second one was from "Dr.____" presumably to lend
> some authority to the attempt.
>
> I'm going to have to read "He, She, and It" by Marge Piercy again. I
> highly recommend it:-)
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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:02:41 +0700
From: "VideoIndonesia" 
To: 
Subject: Virus - turn off Address book now!
Message-ID: <00e001c0e744$32399200$053e9bca@indosat.net.id>


The first thing to do with this and many other virus is to turn off your address book...thats how a lot of these virii spread.


Geoffrey


----- Original Message -----
From: "masi" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:55 AM
Subject: .pif file virus attack



So does anyone know how to get rid of this .pif file virus from John
Haskins? It's annoying!! ...and I wonder if it's doing anymore damage to my
system?
masi


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Karr O'Connor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: virus attack



> I've logged two direct attempts to pass a virus to my computer from two
> different addresses, both quoting messages I've posted to this list in
> the last day and a half. Both messages were addresed directly to me and
> came with attachments containing the virii. Both virus laden attachments
> were .piffile format. I won't go into any more details here. Both
> messages had the same curiously mis-constructed sentence after the
> quote: "Look to the following attachment." If you receive any email with
> attachments purporting to be mail directly addressed to you outside the
> list, especially if they are .piffile format, please consider deleting
> them directly. I'll log the names from here on in, but I believe they
> are fake anyway. The second one was from "Dr.____" presumably to lend
> some authority to the attempt.
>
> I'm going to have to read "He, She, and It" by Marge Piercy again. I
> highly recommend it:-)
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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:33:39 -0500
From: Scott Sanders 
To: 
Subject: Re: Canopus MPEG card
Message-ID: 


What about the Media100 MPEG2 encoder?  I believe it's called the MPEG
Charger.  It has 2 pass VBR.  Anyone know the quality of it's output or how
well it works with DSP?


Scott


> From: Randy Quimpo 
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:59:46 +0800
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: RE: Canopus MPEG card
> 
> 
> Hi Walt
> 
> Are you happy with the image quality? The big question in the minds of most
> everyone regarding MPEG conversion is whether the conversion method
> (hardware vs software) allows you to output quality comparable to commercial
> VCD products. I have heard from this list that the Panasonic encoder will
> allow you to get better image quality than many hardware converters, and the
> quality (IMHO) IS pretty good. If speed is not an issue, will the Canopus
> output better quality? And yes, I would like to hear how you do with the
> MPEG2 on CDR, and if it works for you and your clientele.
> 
> regards
> 
> Randy Quimpo
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walt [mailto:wwimberly@cfl.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:11 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: Canopus MPEG card
> 
> 
> Randy,
> 
> I have the MPEG card for the DVRexRT and the big difference for me was the
> speed of conversion. I haven't used it for MPEG 2 yet but with conversions
> to MPEG 1 it was not real-time. It turned out being about 2x in my case but
> there was a lot of rescaling going on as well as the compression. It's still
> much faster than a 10x - 20x software compression. The other nice feature is
> that you can export to MPEG directly from the Premiere Timeline so when your
> projects complete it just becomes the final step. I hope to get a new DVD
> player soon and Spruce-Up so I can try the MPEG 2 DVD program on CD-R media
> process until the DVD-R fight settles down and a clear winner emerges.
> 
> Walt
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Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 00:47:02 -0700
From: Aleksandr Milewski 
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Virus - turn off Address book now!
Message-ID: 


At 2:02 PM +0700 on 5/28/01, you commanded the electrons to create a 
missive titled "Virus - turn off Address book now!":
|The first thing to do with this and many other virus is to turn off 
your address book...thats how a lot of these virii spread.


Or just don't use Outlook. ;)


In any case, here's the McAfee page on this beastie:


http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99069&


Hope this helps,
        Zandr
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