DV-L Sat, 9 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 881
In this issue:
RE: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
RE: time for a DV500/DSR300?
Re: Info charger battery 12 volts.
Re: Info charger battery 12 volts.
Field Render Order
Re: miniDV cassette player/recorder
Remote Operation of DV camcorders
Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
circular polarizer misinformation
Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Business Idea: Video Biographies
Re: Breaking the rules
Re: Field Render Order
Re: CD printer: thermal or inkjet?
RE: Business Idea: Video Biographies
RE: Breaking the rules
Re: Which Minidisc and AccessoriesTo Get?
Re: CD printer: thermal or inkjet?
RE: CD printer: thermal or inkjet?
Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Re: New Digital TV Channel
Re: Field Render Order
Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
RE: Remote Operation of DV camcorders
OHCI firewire
RE: time for a DV500/DSR300?
Re: OHCI firewire
RE: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Re: OHCI firewire
Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Top end Mac solution for NLE
Re: time for a DV500/DSR300?
Re: Top end Mac solution for NLE
Pioneer dvd-rw in a firewire enclosure?
monitoring sound in post
Re: Top end Mac solution for NLE
Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Re: Which Minidisc and AccessoriesTo Get?
OT: Film premiere on IFILM. com
Re: Top end Mac solution for NLE
Image degradation
Mini DV Video Tape
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:13:50 -0700
From: "Fred Greissing"
To:
Subject: RE: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID:
Definitely go for ECC RAM.
For one ECC has improved error correction.
Second ECC RAM is in general a better quality product.
I use only micron ECC RAM or better.
My Wintel box has not crashed in at least six months.
I believe that good RAM is instrumental to stability.
I would go for 512 MB of RAM for use with the DTV especially if you use
After Effects.
Fred
www.premieretools.com
PS. As you have the DTV check out my site for The Consolidator a plug-in I
have developed. My lead beta tester has a DTV and he is totally hooked on
The Consolidator. Don't worry about getting hooked, it's cheap.
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:10:38 +0200
From: "Global-DVC"
To:
Subject: RE: time for a DV500/DSR300?
Message-ID:
Randy We have a tip of the month! Save your $$$$. Just use a 58mm +3 Close
Up lens. You'll love the results. Zoom a little and your subject within
30-50cm will be nice and sharp. The background will look like your dreams!
Jan van der Meer
www.Global-DVC.Org
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:11:48 +0000
From: Fogar
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Info charger battery 12 volts.
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010608111146.04174eb0@popmail.libero.it>
I'd like to understand, please:
I have to buy an inverte 36 AH and 300 Watts?
Is it ok?
Do you know how many batteries Sony NP-F950 could I charge
by an 12 volts 55Ah battery + the inverter?
Instead if I buy a 12 volts charger, could I charge more batteries?
If I add an inverter with a car battery, does it last very less?
I'm sorry but I need precise news.
thanks Fogar
>I think it says that when you're charging 3 batteries it can
>put out 8.4 x 1.4 x 3 = about 36 AH.
>
>And the input power required ranges from 95 to 125 VA,
>depending on what it's powering or
>charging.
>
>Therefore an inverter rated at more than 125 VA -- maybe 250
>or so to be safe -- should be
>good for your job. Keep in mind that if you draw 125 VA for
>very long you will need to recharge
>the 12V car battery.
>
>I hope somebody else checks my electrical math.
>
>Don
>
> > In my Sony AC-V900 charger there is:
> >
> > AC POWER ADAPTOR INPUT
>AC100-240V 50/60Hz
> > AC IN ~100-240V 50/60Hz 70W
>41-58VA (VTR)
> > DC OUT 8.4V 1.8A(VTR)
>95-125VA (BATT)
> > 8.4V 1.4A(BATT)X3 OUTPUT
>DC8.4V 1.8 (VTR)
> >
> >
>DC8.4V 1.4A (BATT)X3
> >
> > Could you tell me if I can use an inverter with my Sony
>AC-V900 charger,
> > please?
> > I don't know electronics thigs. :)
> >
> > thanks Fogar
> >
> >
> >
> > >Look at the AC-V900 charger to see if it has a
>specification
> > >for "W" or "watts."
> > >For example, my V500 charger reads "8.5W."
> > >Then, find an inverter with several times more power
>output
> > >than the charger.
> > >Probably your charger takes only 20 or 30 W max.
> > >Most small inverters are 200 or 300 watts, so you should
> > >have enough power for charging.
> > >
> > >I don't know the European inverter market. Mine is a
>very
> > >ordinary simple inexpensive
> > >inverter made by Tripp-Lite. It cost about $40 US, as I
> > >remember. It is very small and
> > >light weight -- it weighs less than 1 kg and measures 10
>cm
> > >x 15 cm x 5 cm approximately.
> > >
> > >I am sure there is an equivalent one you can get in Italy
> > >that produces 220 volts.
> > >
> > >Most inverters produce square wave output rather than
>sine
> > >wave output but I have never
> > >had a problem with that. The Sony charger works
>perfectly.
> > >
> > >Don
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Don Mitchell,
> > > > thanks for your news.
> > > > I have got a Sony AC-V900 charger, it charges three
> > >batteries at once
> > > > by 125 and 220 volts.
> > > > Could I use an inverter with this charger? Is the
>inverter
> > >a shrewdness
> > > > allows to turn 12 volts into 220 volts?
> > > > How much big and heavy this inverter is?
> > > > I use a car battery 12 vots.
> > > > Thanks Fogar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I'd like know if I could buy a charger that can be
> > >used by
> > > > >a 12 volts battery.
> > > > > > I have to charge some Sony NP-F950 batteries and I
> > >like to
> > > > >charge two three
> > > > > > batteries
> > > > > > contemporarily.
> > > > > > Where could I buy it, please? Is there a online
>shop?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm sure there are *several* alternatives, but here
>are
> > >two
> > > > >I *know* will work because I've used them myself.
> > > > >
> > > > >1. Sony ACV-Q850D -- charges on AC and 12 VDC *but*
>only
> > > > >one at a time (about $130 US)
> > > > >2. Sony BCV-500 AC charger -- charges 2 at once -- AC
> > >only
> > > > >(about $100 US), *but* you need a small inverter to
> > >produce
> > > > >110 VAC or 220 VAC, if you want to run it off a
>battery.
> > >I
> > > > >have done this; it works just fine. I used a 300
>watt
> > > > >inverter, which provided much more power than was
>needed.
> > > > >You could also run your camcorder power cord into the
> > > > >inverter also, and charge a 3rd battery in the
>camcorder
> > > > >itself (at least with a PD150 you could..don't know
>what
> > > > >camcorder you're using). You would be wanting to use
>a
> > > > >full-size automobile or marine battery for this
>setup.
> > > > >
> > > > >The BCV-500 is not a rapid charger -- it takes a long
> > >time.
> > > > >The ACV-Q850D is faster, but of course charges only
>one
> > >at a
> > > > >time.
> > > > >
> > > > >Sony used to market a DC-only charger like the
> > >ACV-Q850D --
> > > > >you might be able to still find them around. The
>price
> > >was
> > > > >about the same.
> > > > >
> > > > >I got mine from B&H (www.bhphotovideo.com) but they
>can
> > >be
> > > > >found at many different online sites.
> > > > >
> > > > >Don Mitchell
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> > -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
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>such as http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
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> >
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>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:14:47 -0400
From: "Don Mitchell"
To:
Subject: Re: Info charger battery 12 volts.
Message-ID: <000701c0f014$9ca64b50$0164640a@zeus>
I'm sorry I can't speak Italian.
Here are some general answer to your questions.
1. All battery chargers need a power source, which can be:
a. DC (direct current) that comes from a battery
(example: 12 volt car battery)
b. AC (alternating current) that comes from the
municipal power company (example: 120 volts AC; 240 volts
AC)
2. If you have a charger that takes DC (almost always 12
volts DC) as *input*, then you can connect
it to that battery. The battery can either be standing
alone or in a car.
In any case you have to charge *that* battery (the car
battery) sometime, because it transfers its energy to the
charger and then to the camcorder batteries, and will become
exhausted.
3. If you have a charger (or any other device) that
requires AC input then you have two choices:
a. plug it into the wall socket (in your case, this is
impossible)
b. use a device called an "inverter," which takes DC
input and turns it into AC output
You originally asked about a DC charger. You said that you
already had an AC charger. I said in that case, you could
use an inverter to produce AC from a car battery, and plug
your charger into the inverter, and charge your camcorder
batteries.
The next task was to learn how much power your charger
requires. You gave the specifications from the charger, and
it looked to me as though 200 watts would be sufficient.
Even 100 watts would probably work.
If you go to a electronic supply store and ask for an
"inverter," I am sure they will know what you want. Tell
them you need about 200 watts AC output, and they will sell
you the correct inverter. Inverter manufacturers make
different sizes: for example, 100 watts, 200 watts, 300
watts, 500 watts, and so on. An inverter with a higher watt
output will be bigger, heavier, and require more *input*
power from the car battery if you use its full output.
Inverters are not 100% efficient. That is, to produce 200
watts output, the inverter will consume (draw; take) more
than 200 watts from the car battery.
Your Sony AC charger can work on either 120 VAC (volts AC)
or 240 VAC. This means that you can get a US style inverter
if that is easier for you, or you can get a European one if
that is easier. It does not matter.
However, a US style inverter will have US style sockets. If
your Sony charger has an Italian style plug, then you will
need an adaptor. I am sure it will be better for you to get
a European inverter if you can.
Finally, notice:
the term "volts" comes from Mr. Volta, an Italian (I think)
the term "ampere" comes from Mr Ampere, a Frenchman
the term "watt" comes from Mr Watt, an Englishman
There's a European Community for you.
I hope this helps.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fogar"
To:
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: Info charger battery 12 volts.
> I'd like to understand, please:
> I have to buy an inverte 36 AH and 300 Watts?
> Is it ok?
> Do you know how many batteries Sony NP-F950 could I charge
> by an 12 volts 55Ah battery + the inverter?
> Instead if I buy a 12 volts charger, could I charge more
batteries?
> If I add an inverter with a car battery, does it last very
less?
> I'm sorry but I need precise news.
>
> thanks Fogar
>
>
>
>
>
> >I think it says that when you're charging 3 batteries it
can
> >put out 8.4 x 1.4 x 3 = about 36 AH.
> >
> >And the input power required ranges from 95 to 125 VA,
> >depending on what it's powering or
> >charging.
> >
> >Therefore an inverter rated at more than 125 VA -- maybe
250
> >or so to be safe -- should be
> >good for your job. Keep in mind that if you draw 125 VA
for
> >very long you will need to recharge
> >the 12V car battery.
> >
> >I hope somebody else checks my electrical math.
> >
> >Don
> >
>
>
>
> > > In my Sony AC-V900 charger there is:
> > >
> > > AC POWER ADAPTOR INPUT
> >AC100-240V 50/60Hz
> > > AC IN ~100-240V 50/60Hz 70W
> >41-58VA (VTR)
> > > DC OUT 8.4V 1.8A(VTR)
> >95-125VA (BATT)
> > > 8.4V 1.4A(BATT)X3 OUTPUT
> >DC8.4V 1.8 (VTR)
> > >
> > >
> >DC8.4V 1.4A (BATT)X3
> > >
> > > Could you tell me if I can use an inverter with my
Sony
> >AC-V900 charger,
> > > please?
> > > I don't know electronics thigs. :)
> > >
> > > thanks Fogar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Look at the AC-V900 charger to see if it has a
> >specification
> > > >for "W" or "watts."
> > > >For example, my V500 charger reads "8.5W."
> > > >Then, find an inverter with several times more power
> >output
> > > >than the charger.
> > > >Probably your charger takes only 20 or 30 W max.
> > > >Most small inverters are 200 or 300 watts, so you
should
> > > >have enough power for charging.
> > > >
> > > >I don't know the European inverter market. Mine is a
> >very
> > > >ordinary simple inexpensive
> > > >inverter made by Tripp-Lite. It cost about $40 US,
as I
> > > >remember. It is very small and
> > > >light weight -- it weighs less than 1 kg and
measures 10
> >cm
> > > >x 15 cm x 5 cm approximately.
> > > >
> > > >I am sure there is an equivalent one you can get in
Italy
> > > >that produces 220 volts.
> > > >
> > > >Most inverters produce square wave output rather than
> >sine
> > > >wave output but I have never
> > > >had a problem with that. The Sony charger works
> >perfectly.
> > > >
> > > >Don
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Don Mitchell,
> > > > > thanks for your news.
> > > > > I have got a Sony AC-V900 charger, it charges
three
> > > >batteries at once
> > > > > by 125 and 220 volts.
> > > > > Could I use an inverter with this charger? Is the
> >inverter
> > > >a shrewdness
> > > > > allows to turn 12 volts into 220 volts?
> > > > > How much big and heavy this inverter is?
> > > > > I use a car battery 12 vots.
> > > > > Thanks Fogar
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > I'd like know if I could buy a charger that
can be
> > > >used by
> > > > > >a 12 volts battery.
> > > > > > > I have to charge some Sony NP-F950 batteries
and I
> > > >like to
> > > > > >charge two three
> > > > > > > batteries
> > > > > > > contemporarily.
> > > > > > > Where could I buy it, please? Is there a
online
> >shop?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm sure there are *several* alternatives, but
here
> >are
> > > >two
> > > > > >I *know* will work because I've used them myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >1. Sony ACV-Q850D -- charges on AC and 12 VDC
*but*
> >only
> > > > > >one at a time (about $130 US)
> > > > > >2. Sony BCV-500 AC charger -- charges 2 at
once -- AC
> > > >only
> > > > > >(about $100 US), *but* you need a small inverter
to
> > > >produce
> > > > > >110 VAC or 220 VAC, if you want to run it off a
> >battery.
> > > >I
> > > > > >have done this; it works just fine. I used a 300
> >watt
> > > > > >inverter, which provided much more power than was
> >needed.
> > > > > >You could also run your camcorder power cord into
the
> > > > > >inverter also, and charge a 3rd battery in the
> >camcorder
> > > > > >itself (at least with a PD150 you could..don't
know
> >what
> > > > > >camcorder you're using). You would be wanting to
use
> >a
> > > > > >full-size automobile or marine battery for this
> >setup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The BCV-500 is not a rapid charger -- it takes a
long
> > > >time.
> > > > > >The ACV-Q850D is faster, but of course charges
only
> >one
> > > >at a
> > > > > >time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sony used to market a DC-only charger like the
> > > >ACV-Q850D --
> > > > > >you might be able to still find them around. The
> >price
> > > >was
> > > > > >about the same.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I got mine from B&H (www.bhphotovideo.com) but
they
> >can
> > > >be
> > > > > >found at many different online sites.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Don Mitchell
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
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Benefactors
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> >http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions
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> > >
> > > To contribute money:
> >http://www.computervicestore.com/dvl.html
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> >
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> >
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>
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such as http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of
its members.
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 07:00:35 -0600
From: Brad Carter
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Field Render Order
Message-ID: <20010608125950.JHI9669.femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com@localhost>
What is the correct field render order for DV? At work I was always
taught to use the upper field first when I am importing my footage into
After Effects. Every preset I have seen in Final Cut Pro, Premiere,
etc. have the lower field set first for the field order. Is this
correct for DV and not other formats?
Doesn't NTSC display the upper field first? I'm asking this because
when I first started mixing video with After Effects some of my renders
would look like hell when I brought them back into iFinish. One of the
more experienced editors at my work figured it out right away, I was
rendering the fields out of order because I never set the 'interpret
footage' option to upper field first in After Effects.
Can you guys please help shed some light on this?
Thanks,
Brad
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:44:43 +0900
From: selander@tkf.att.ne.jp (Tim Selander)
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: miniDV cassette player/recorder
Message-ID: <1euphr1.2q6lew1hgl3i8M%selander@tkf.att.ne.jp>
Konbanwa!
Wow, you're practically in the neighborhood -- I live in Nerima Ku,
three stops out of Ikebukuro on the Seibu line. Have been through
Koganei many times....
We do mostly radio; our "biggest" program is aimed at housewives,
sponsored by the Yamazaki bread company and airs on Tokyo's Bunka Hoso
on Saturday mornings -- but I can't remember the time! Early, though.
It's the "biggest" just because it airs in Tokyo; the rest of our stuff
is aired on chiho/outlying areas.
We only make one TV program, which we do for a Christian church group.
They wanted a program that helps overcome some of the thinking here that
Christianity is just for foreigners. So we do a kind of documentary
style where we show the work/lives of various Japanese who are doing
interesting things; and we work in the fact that they just happen to be
Christians. (Sometimes it's an in-studio interview, or whatnot.) I work
on that program, shooting and some editing. It's been great -- I've met
a lot of interesting people and have been a lot of interesting places.
It airs on 11 stations in Japan, now. The one you should be able to get
(if you have a UHF antenna) is Terebi Saitama -- channel 38, Saturday
mornings at 8. It's called LifeLine.
We shoot on BetaSP, but have put miniDV (VX1000) footage on the air
quite a bit. Most recently, it was because we took a trip to Indonesia
to do a program on a former Japanese soldier who stayed behind in
Indonesia after the war. We couldn't get a straight answer from the
embassy about whether our gear would get taxed or not, so we decided to
play "tourist". We went in and shot two complete programs with the Sony
and two Panasonic palm-corders.
The footage was very acceptable. I'd much rather shoot with a full-sized
camera equipped with a real lens, but it is amazing what can be done
with consumer minDV gear!
Tim
> Hi Tim,
>
> Robert over here in Koganei, Tokyo. Does your production house have
> anything on-air presently. I'd love to check it out. I did an eikaiwa
> series last year with a production house in Harajuku. Can't recall the
> name of the firm. (where's that darn meishi?) For that gig, I was in front
> of the camera instead of behind it, though, and I was pleasantly surprised
> they were using miniDV (Sonys, of course.) Gave me more incentive to push
> my own projects for broadcast. Does your production house shoot in miniDV?
> I notice that many of the dramas (one's being shot right now outside the
> french restaraunt next door!) shoot in BETACAM with tons of light.
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
> ___________________________________________________
> "We must never forget that the brain is a secondary organ."
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Selander"
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: miniDV cassette player/recorder
> >
> >
> > Allison,
> >
> > I work in Japan at a little radio and TV production house. Here Sony
> > sells a really nice double deck -- DV and VHS. You can probably find
> > information on it by searching google.com. It's called the WV-DR5.
> >
> > I really like this deck because, aside from being a really well-built
> > machine, it takes full size DV cassettes as well as the mini, and it can
> > play DVCAM. (Records only DV). Makes making DV-VHS dubs real easy!
> >
> > I could buy one of these locally and air mail it you for $1350. Kind of
> > pricey, but it might be worth it?
> >
> > Let me know!
> >
> > Tim Selander
> > Tokyo, Japan
> >
> > P.S. Works great with my Mac, with Final Cut, EditDV and iMovie!
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:17:37 -0400
From: "ian.mattis"
To:
Subject: Remote Operation of DV camcorders
Message-ID: <200106081117.AA857473766@paonline.com>
I am researching a job where I need to place three cameras in a wind tunnel and operate all camera functions (pan, tilt, zoom, focus). The cameras will feed isolated decks in the control room, so while digital would be great, it is not needed. We are looking into robotic systems for pan, tilt. I am looking to keep the camera as small as possible. Is this possible with cameras like Sony's PD150? Or do I need to go to a higher level of camera like the JVC DV500 or Sony DSR300?
Thank you.
Ian Mattis
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:18:29 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Message-ID: <76179FC2F60@vilas.uwex.edu>
Wes wrote:
>'m curious about your opinion of Hitchcock's Psycho vs. Gus Van
Sant's Psycho.<
That's easy; I didn't see the new one. Sorry, got two little kids and
not much free time and besides, that's not the kind of movie I go to
see, generally.
I should be clear here: I'm no scholar of the (big-C) Cinema, in fact
I hated my film classes in college. I'm a documentary & news
shooter & editor, been doing it for 20 years now. I learned from
watching docs, "60 Minutes," Ken Burns (I know, quite down-class
for the indie doc folks), several excellent co-workers that were kind
enough to mentor me, "The War Room", and all kinds of TV when I
was a kid. I also watch what passes for docs on the public-access
channels, and have those folks got a lot to learn!
What I aggregated out of all that was this: If you want to get a
message across to viewers, YOU MUST NOT CONFUSE THEM.
People are all too easily distracted, and the minute they think
"Hey, that camera just went down a DRAIN! Coooooooool!
Wonder how they did that!" you might as well hang it up.
I'm not saying what many folks want to hear, but I truly believe the
visuals have to support the MESSAGE. So shoot me.
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:21:18 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Message-ID: <76185F259EF@vilas.uwex.edu>
Mike wrote:
>I just get so tired of seeing the crap MTV puts out
being fawned over as some kind of terrific
acheivement.<
You and me too, brother, but I'll give them this:
At least MTV's "award" shows are done in a tongue-in-cheek
manner. If they acted like it was the Oscars I'd have to puke.
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:22:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Zach Fine
To:
Subject: circular polarizer misinformation
Message-ID: <15136.60831.266971.667829@xdsl014.serv.net>
I've seen several posts that have talked of linear polarizing filters
as being just as good as or better than circular polarizers. Someone
even went so far as to say that a linear polarizing filter looked
sharper and had better color than a circular polarizing filter.
This most likely is due to the quality deficiencies of the filters in
question, as the image passed through a circular polarizer and the
image passed through a linear polarizer should look identical to the
human eye. Why? Because a circular polarizer is merely a linear
polarizer with a quarter-wave retarder on the back. The quarter-wave
retarder shouldn't affect the look of the image at all, its only
function is to remove the linear polarization of the light so that it
doesn't lead to faulty readings by some of those newfangled electronic
sensors that riddle our modern SLRs and video cameras.
-Zach Fine
czyz@serv.net
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:29:11 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Message-ID: <761A7B64CA4@vilas.uwex.edu>
Stephen couldn't resist writing:
>I am sure they people that were you age now when you were 16
said exactly the same thing about the music of your time.<
Jeez, Stephen, that...
>such a tired old cliché that I cannot believe you're even
committing it to print...<
You make it sound like I was born in the Jurassic Period. Yeah,
we had MUSIC then...it was only hitting two sticks together, but
that stuff ROCKED!
Get over it, Stephen. You should accept that what runs on MTV
(when they run music at all) is nothing more than an ad for a music
company. Any "innovation" they come across is only a desperate
plea for access to your wallet.
And BTW, I was working at a cable system the day MTV went on
the air. It was interesting then; it was really novel.
The novelty wore off decades ago.
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:27:38 -0700
From: Brad Flickinger
To:
Subject: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Message-ID:
My name is Brad Flickinger, I use my iMac DV and Canon ZR-10 to record the
video biographies of people.
I charge $899 for each 2-hour interview that I edit with iMovie.
I never thought a retired newspaper man could make it in the video business,
but it has been better than I ever imagined.
I have prepared a report on how I do it if anyone is interested.
go to http://www.myvideostory.com and click on the Free Report link
Thanks for your time
--
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:31:40 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: Breaking the rules
Message-ID: <761B2435A3B@vilas.uwex.edu>
Francois wrote:
>Gee, Bruce, I don't think they're making bad films on purpose to
get you all upset.<
Doesn't upset me; I just don't go see them.
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:13:37 -0700
From: "Robert C. Fisher"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Field Render Order
Message-ID: <3B20F9B1.98C4A993@pacbell.net>
Brad Carter wrote:
>
> What is the correct field render order for DV? At work I was always
> taught to use the upper field first when I am importing my footage into
> After Effects. Every preset I have seen in Final Cut Pro, Premiere,
> etc. have the lower field set first for the field order. Is this
> correct for DV and not other formats?
>
> Doesn't NTSC display the upper field first? I'm asking this because
> when I first started mixing video with After Effects some of my renders
> would look like hell when I brought them back into iFinish. One of the
> more experienced editors at my work figured it out right away, I was
> rendering the fields out of order because I never set the 'interpret
> footage' option to upper field first in After Effects.
>
> Can you guys please help shed some light on this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad
>
I have tried both ways and Lower Field first renders out properly, if
you render upper first then the image is jumpy and jerky. In Final Cut
Pro the standard DV settings are lower field first also. I would love to
know if DV and uncompressed video have a different field rendering order.
Cheers
Bob Fisher
FishPond Digital
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:29:04 +0100
From: Andy Stevens
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: CD printer: thermal or inkjet?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010608092809.020684d0@mail.ulti-media.com>
At 02:59 PM 6/8/01 +0800, you wrote:
>I plan to purchase CD printer to make the CDs I distribute more professional
>looking. Although I am sold on the ink-jet Primera Signature Pro (I am
>familiar with the Fargo printer of long ago - the ancestors of the Primera
>today), I am wondering if its not better to get the thermal printer models
>instead. I am worried that the prints made by the ink-jet will smear during
>use - something the ads for thermal printers keep mentioning. Does anyone
>have any experience with this stuff? Is the print-out of an ink-jet CD
>printer good enough in the rough and tumble video world?
>
>regards
Fred,
I print CD labels all day long on an HP 712 Inkjet with not problem and
excellent results.
Andy
Ulti-Media Productions
http://www.ulti-media.com
DV Master Pro & Speed Razor Users Forum
http://www.ulti-media.com/dvmaster_pro.htm
"Ghostrider" Vulcan Nomad 1500 VROC 2651
http://www.ulti-media.com/2651.htm
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:13:49 -0500
From: "Stacy"
To:
Subject: RE: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Message-ID:
I've done a little of this too. I haven't ever charged as much as Brad , but
the projects like this that I've done have been some of my favorite pieces
of work.
I add period music and photo stills to the interviews as well as interviews
with other family members. I call these "Family Stories" and plan on doing
more of them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Flickinger [mailto:news1@myvideostory.com]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:28 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Business Idea: Video Biographies
My name is Brad Flickinger, I use my iMac DV and Canon ZR-10 to record the
video biographies of people.
I charge $899 for each 2-hour interview that I edit with iMovie.
I never thought a retired newspaper man could make it in the video business,
but it has been better than I ever imagined.
I have prepared a report on how I do it if anyone is interested.
go to http://www.myvideostory.com and click on the Free Report link
Thanks for your time
--
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:27:23 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Breaking the rules
Message-ID: <001b01c0f037$e631ba20$4423a8c0@dell420>
>>Gee, Bruce, I don't think they're making bad films on purpose to
>>get you all upset.<
>Doesn't upset me; I just don't go see them.
Of course, that's how you know they are bad.
So we have Rule #1:
1) Don't go see bad movies.
;)
Rule #2 anyone?
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"It can only be attributable to human error"
-HAL
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:32:05 -0700
From: "Justus J. Schlichting"
To:
Subject: Re: Which Minidisc and AccessoriesTo Get?
Message-ID: <200106081634.MAA04383@newman.concentric.net>
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:58:14 -0700 (PDT), Joel wrote:
>Justus,
>
>Do any of the MD recorders you mentioned have a
>digital link to a PC like the Sonys USB "DPC
>Connection"?
All the MDs I mentioned have digital out (which requires a sound=
card and connector). I believe the two top Sharps (831 and MT77)=
also have an optional USB connector - but don't trust me on this.=
Try http://www.minidisc.org/ for comparison charts.
-- Justus J. Schlichting, justus-j@deltanet.com on 06/08/2001
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:47:37 -0700
From: "Clesson Duke"
To:
Subject: Re: CD printer: thermal or inkjet?
Message-ID: <00e601c0f03a$ba0038c0$4601a8c0@dev01>
Are we talking about printing on labels... or on the plastic disc itself?
-
Clesson Duke
San Diego, CA USA
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:10:36 +0800
From: Randy Quimpo
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: CD printer: thermal or inkjet?
Message-ID:
We're talking about printing on the disc itself. There are two ways to do
this - inkjet (cheaper but full color), and thermal (more durable, but only
two color). I do not know if the inkjet method is very durable - from what I
know of thermal printing, this is totally waterproof. On the other hand,
lots of people use ink jets, so the question I asked originally is whether
the printouts stand up to rigorous use, or are they only good for novelty
stuff.
We have been printing on paper for years too, using inkjets, but our clients
don't like this anymore (too cheap looking for the price we charge).
regards
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: Clesson Duke [mailto:clesson@duke.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 12:48 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: CD printer: thermal or inkjet?
Are we talking about printing on labels... or on the plastic disc itself?
-
Clesson Duke
San Diego, CA USA
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:14:05 -0700
From: "Clesson Duke"
To:
Subject: Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Message-ID: <010501c0f03e$6c3b7b50$4601a8c0@dev01>
Interesting idea...
However, your offer for a 'FREE REPORT" turns out to be a $49.95 offer for
sale :-(
The concept of "Telling Your Story" has been around for a while.
In fact, a good friend and author of mine has a book about doing just this -
but on paper.
It is available from Amazon.com books and is titled: "The Little Red Writing
Book: A Practical Guide to Writing Your Own Life Story".
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966673107/qid=992020070/sr=1-1/ref=
sc_b_1/103-4879412-5554265)
Both have interesting possibilities... and might be used together.
-
Clesson Duke
San Diego, CA USA
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 10:21:04 -0700
From: Adam Wilt
To: DV-L
Subject: Re: New Digital TV Channel
Message-ID: <3B210980.B344CD1@flash.net>
> I would like to know if anyone has done a small TV station that involves
> using digital cameras (FireWire) using the Videonics MXProDV It has 2 DV
> and 2 Analog inputs. I have 2 problems.
Probably not. Most 1394-equipped cameras lack tally facilities and studio
setups, and the MXProDV is not my first choice for a live mixer. It works, but
its "menu-driven, soft-button" interface is not as well suited for the
wham-bam-pushthebuttonNOW-ma'am world of live television as a mixer with a
more traditional button-per-function control surface.
> 1) How does the preview work for each camera? I will be using the
> DistanceDV cable.
The preview output can do (as I recall) a quad split but you'll probably want
full-res, full-screen monitoring for each individual camera and other input.
You might want to take Y/C or composite feeds from the cameras in parallel
with the 1394 feed, and use them to feed dedicated analog preview monitors.
> 2) Hoe can I get tally to the camera so that the cameraman, assistant,
> and the host in the set know which camera is "On AIR"?
As I recall there is no tally out from the MXProDV nor is there an aftermarket
kit for it (there is a tally add-on for the Panasonic WJ-MX50, which, with the
Pro-Fifty upgrade from Bob Rall, is an excellent live mixer -- but Y/C and
composite only, no 1394). But if you're on the cheap (and it sounds like you
are), it'd be a simple matter to build a 4-way pushbutton switchbox feeding a
tally signal over twisted pair (or even "silver satin" telco cable) to LEDs
tie-wrapped or gaffer taped to the cameras (assuming handycams, not higher-end
cams with tally return facilities). Don't forget to parallel the tally to your
preview monitors. You could even get fancy and use bicolored LEDs, and a
pushbutton for "ready", so the cam ops could get (say) a yellow light for
"ready" and a red light for "take". Of course it helps to have about three
hands to preset the readied cam on the mixer, press the ready tally, then take
the camera and press its take tally... ;-) You may be able to use the GPI on
the mixer for some limited integration with the tally, but there isn't (as I
recall) a remote protocol port allowing you to preselect and take using a
proper hard panel of custom design.
You'll wind up with a custom snake to each floor position: DistanceDV, Y/C
preview, tally return, and intercom.
You may want to saw off the T-handle on the MXProDV, forcing your TD to use
the autotake button. I've found the T-handle to be too "steppy" and coarse for
live work, though it's useful for previewing. Autotaken transitions are smooth
and clean and fine for on-air use.
Cheers,
Adam Wilt
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:09:44 -0400
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Field Render Order
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010608130607.038b0358@mail.speakeasy.org>
>What is the correct field render order for DV?
From all the reports I've seen it just depends on your hardware. Or at
least the setting you're supposed to use does.
Here, with OHCI PYRO, I must use 'Field Order A' with MSP6, but 'Lower
field first' with Premiere6. This certainly seems counterintuitive, as one
would suspect the A field to be the upper field, but who cares? Try both on
a short test clip.
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:02:17 +0200
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010608134352.04491210@popserver.panix.com>
At 09:41 PM 6/7/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>The most pressing decision is whether or not I *need*
>or *should* use ECC registered modules. They cost
>around 30-40% more than just ECC modules and if they
>are not critical for video work, I'll skip 'em.
>Otherwise I will defer to the experience and expert
>opinions of the Wintel Masters.
First off, ECC and registered is not one of the same.
"ECC" stands for Error Checking and Correcting (sometimes also for Error
Correcting Code or Error Correcting Circuitry ..). It involves an extra bit
on your memory (i.e. an 8 bit wide memory is 9 bits wide). With that, the
ECC memory can correct single bit errors and identify multi-bit errs.
"Registered" means that the memory is "buffered" with special circuitry.
This way the computer sees a clean sharp clock signal instead of a
weakening clock signal as it progresses along the length of the memory path.
No wonder both are more expensive.
Now for the caveat: ECC and registered memory must be supported by the
system board. Some do not work with registered and explicitly require
"unbuffered" memory. Some system boards work with nothing but registered
memory.
Memory types should not be mixed. ECC and non-ECC usually get along on the
same mobo, but most of the time, the ECC part will be ignored if non-ECC is
in the mix. Unbuffered and registered should not be mixed an most likely
will not work together.
Bottom line: Whether to use registered or not depends on your mobo. Whether
you want ECC or not depends on how dearly you love your data. If you don't
absolutely need both, it usually is a better choice to spend the extra
money on high quality memory, such as Kingston or Crucial. Bad (cheap)
memory is usually the cause of many system crashes for which the software
gets blamed.
BS
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:21:43 -0400
From: "D P"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID:
Hello All. My TD-2000 GL2A (w/Tyan Tiger 100)uses unbuffered ECC
100MhZ SDRAM. Apparently the newer generic PC100 memory cannot be
used by the older BX Chipsets, so double check the memory type before you
buy it.
DP
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:04:05 -0400
From: Dave Haynie
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID: <20010608144422.DEEE.DHAYNIE@jersey.net>
On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:02:17 +0200, Bertel Schmitt jammed all night, and by sunrise was heard saying:
> At 09:41 PM 6/7/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >The most pressing decision is whether or not I *need*
> >or *should* use ECC registered modules.
> First off, ECC and registered is not one of the same.
> "ECC" stands for Error Checking and Correcting (sometimes also for Error
> Correcting Code or Error Correcting Circuitry ..).
That's correct.
> It involves an extra bit
> on your memory (i.e. an 8 bit wide memory is 9 bits wide). With that, the
> ECC memory can correct single bit errors and identify multi-bit errs.
That's not quite correct. A single bit per byte, classically, is driven
as parity memory. A parity bit can detect a simple error: the memory
controller essentially sums the byte, and stores its odd-or-evenness in
the parity byte. On a read, if the parity byte doesn't match, the system
can be informed of the error, but it can't do too much about it.
ECC is a more advanced concept. Rather than a simple system like parity,
an ECC system takes a larger value (usually 64-bits at a time, which
just happens to match our current bus width in the typical PC) and,
using some fairly cool mathematics, generates a special code for that
value. For a 64-bit memory, the simplest form of ECC needs an additional
8-bits, which is the same extra memory as you'd need for parity.
ECC is something of a tradeoff, but not a big one. A parity system could
detect one bit error per byte in a 64-bit memory, but that's fairly
useless, since after one error, you're probably going to throw the whole
thing away, anyway. Using an ECC code, you can detect two bit errors
across the whole 64-bit memory. That's not as many errors, but the
location doesn't matter (eg, it could be two bits in the same byte). But
better still, the scheme can actually correct a single bit error,
preventing the need to signal an error.
> "Registered" means that the memory is "buffered" with special circuitry.
> This way the computer sees a clean sharp clock signal instead of a
> weakening clock signal as it progresses along the length of the memory path.
Not exactly. In a normal unbuffered DIMM module, you have an array of
memory chips connected directly to the memory bus. All modern systems
have individually buffered clocks feeding each DIMM, and of course, the
memory itself is clocked. This means, data changes on the module when
the clock changes, which makes data transfers more reliable and faster,
since they're very predictable.
However, typical CMOS memory chips aren't as fast as some other chips,
specifically buffer chips. In a registered DIMM, a set of buffer chips
sits between the data bus and the memory chips. These are not
transparent buffers (which would slow things down, due to the inevitable
delay through the part), but latched, or registered buffers -- they
store a value. Since these parts are faster than memory chips, the CPU
will only ever read or write to the registered buffer, while at the same
time, the next/previous cycle (depending on read or write) actually
takes place between the buffer and the memory chips.
The other advantage is the buffering effect. You get one load on the
memory bus, rather than potentially many. This can allow more memory
modules to be supported on the same memory bus -- one reason registered
DIMMs have been commonplace in server machines for some time.
> No wonder both are more expensive.
ECC adds one 8-bit memory chip. More expensive, yes, but at today's
prices, you're taking about 9/8th the price. Registers are fairly cheap
TTL chips, possibly less costly than adding the ECC chip. The main
imbalance in price is the disparity in volume -- anything not made in
consumer PC quantities gets expensive. Well, that, and the fact that, by
the time you've paid $50,000 for a moderate server machine, the cost of
additional memory isn't such a big deal versus the cost of downtime if
the system fails.
> Now for the caveat: ECC and registered memory must be supported by the
> system board. Some do not work with registered and explicitly require
> "unbuffered" memory. Some system boards work with nothing but registered
> memory.
Yup. Well, sorta -- if your board doesn't support ECC, you're just
hanging those chips there, wasting power and not much else. The same
module works with parity controllers, so that's also not an issue.
The registered mode, however, must be supported by the memory controller.
This is because the registers introduce a cycle's worth of delay and
require memory addresses to be pipelined.
--
Dave Haynie dhaynie@metaboxusa.com http://www.metaboxusa.com
Chief Technology Officer, Metabox Corporation
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:18:42 -0400
From: "Freed, Ken"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Remote Operation of DV camcorders
Message-ID:
We all three make pan and tilt systems with box cameras for such a purpose.
Camcorders aren't needed. The cameras are good.
KEN FREED, East Coast Region
NLE Specialist and REGIONAL SALES ENGINEER
JVC Digital Video Division
IT'S YOUR IMAGE - Trust it to D-9
our D-9 support line 24/7 is 800-233-1060
email: kfreed@jvc.com
Best way to reach me is my cell: (201)-637-7706
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ian.mattis [SMTP:ianm@paonline.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:18 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Remote Operation of DV camcorders
>
> I am researching a job where I need to place three cameras in a wind
> tunnel and operate all camera functions (pan, tilt, zoom, focus). The
> cameras will feed isolated decks in the control room, so while digital
> would be great, it is not needed. We are looking into robotic systems for
> pan, tilt. I am looking to keep the camera as small as possible. Is this
> possible with cameras like Sony's PD150? Or do I need to go to a higher
> level of camera like the JVC DV500 or Sony DSR300?
>
> Thank you.
> Ian Mattis
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:10:28 -0700
From: "George Loch"
To:
Subject: OHCI firewire
Message-ID: <00ef01c0f05f$72e762e0$10b6bad0@csolutions.net>
I am setting up my home system(Dell P3/500) to push premiere's buttons(or
have it push mine), what would you recommend for the firewire card? I will
be using Prem.6.x and the TRV-900.
Thanks
George Loch
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:33:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: john markert
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: time for a DV500/DSR300?
Message-ID: <20010608203357.21043.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com>
The 2000 is a great little low-budget camcorder, but
has its limitations as you have found out. You might
want to set your sights a bit higher and farther, like
the JVC DV 700, which I believe is 2/3" and 16x9
format, like the DSR500, but costs less.
--- Randy Quimpo wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info, Steve. But the jump is big -
> going from VX2000 to a JVC
> DV500 isn't so much (not from my budget standpoint,
> anyway)...but going to a
> DSR500 is. Are you in fact refering to a DXC325 (not
> a DXC35)? Then you're
> talking about a dockable DV deck now - and a very
> different price level,
> since I will have to beef up my tripod (no more
> cheapo manfrottos) and use
> the more expensive NP-1 batteries (or Anton Bauers),
> among other things. I
> will also be tempted to buy the "real man" lenses,
> like the excellent Canon
> wide-angle zooms - which I think is indespensable
> when going this route.
>
> Which makes this entire quest VERY frustrating -
> either live with the depth
> of field of the VX2000 (and like cameras)...or cough
> up the bucks for a much
> higher-priced alternative (DSR500 and
> siblings)...since not even the
> in-between-priced DSR300/DV500s do these type of
> shots well (as you have
> stated below).
>
> Oh well. You can't have it all, right? If I want to
> pretend that what I'm
> shooting is film, I have to at least be prepared to
> pay a fraction of the
> cost of shooting film. If I want the
> price/performance of shooting on a
> VX2000, then I guess I have to adjust my
> expectations a little (or swallow
> some of my pride).
>
> That said, the VX2000 is paying my bills very
> nicely, just like a whole
> kaboodle of other guys out here.
>
> regards
>
> Randy Quimpo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Slocomb [mailto:video@montana.com]
>
> Better to get a 2/3" chip like the DSR500, or the
> DXC35 which is
> what I have.
>
> My 1/2 chip camera the DSR300, while a nice camera,
> is that much
> harder to throw the background out of focus.
>
> Steve Slocomb
> Looking Glass Films
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:36:42 -0400
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: OHCI firewire
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010608163326.03a2cd58@mail.speakeasy.org>
>I am setting up my home system(Dell P3/500) to push premiere's buttons(or
>have it push mine), what would you recommend for the firewire card? I will
>be using Prem.6.x and the TRV-900.
Any cheap OHCI 1394 card will do fine for a starter DV system. If you want
a lot of company (i.e., user support), try an ADS Pyro. www.adstech.com
They have some nice Premiere bundles, but know that Ulead Media Studio
Express is more intuitive and a much easier program to learn.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:50:45 -0400
From: "Christopher Van Nest"
To:
Subject: RE: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID:
Good advice-- I just went through a memory fiasco with Dell that I'm just
sorting out now. Basically, I have a single 256MB module that came with my
Precision 210 Workstation and wanted to upgrade to 512MB. But the two 128MB
modules I ordered from the Dell Spare Parts website (listed for the 210)
aren't compatible since the original 256MB module is ECC/registered and the
new 128MB modules are only ECC. Dell tech support didn't realize it (even
called them before buying), I just found out when I saw the "cannot mix"
error on boot.
FWIW, I think Crucial is one of the best place to buy memory. Not only did
they seem to have memory for almost every conceivable mainstream system
(with automated selector), they also do a nice job explaining all these
terms. Plus you can't beat that interactive chat/help option. They're at
http://www.crucial.com/.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bertel Schmitt [mailto:bschmitt@panix.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:02 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
>
>
> At 09:41 PM 6/7/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >The most pressing decision is whether or not I *need*
> >or *should* use ECC registered modules. They cost
> >around 30-40% more than just ECC modules and if they
> >are not critical for video work, I'll skip 'em.
> >Otherwise I will defer to the experience and expert
> >opinions of the Wintel Masters.
>
>
> First off, ECC and registered is not one of the same.
>
> "ECC" stands for Error Checking and Correcting (sometimes also for Error
> Correcting Code or Error Correcting Circuitry ..). It involves an
> extra bit
> on your memory (i.e. an 8 bit wide memory is 9 bits wide). With that, the
> ECC memory can correct single bit errors and identify multi-bit errs.
>
> "Registered" means that the memory is "buffered" with special circuitry.
> This way the computer sees a clean sharp clock signal instead of a
> weakening clock signal as it progresses along the length of the
> memory path.
>
> No wonder both are more expensive.
>
> Now for the caveat: ECC and registered memory must be supported by the
> system board. Some do not work with registered and explicitly require
> "unbuffered" memory. Some system boards work with nothing but registered
> memory.
>
> Memory types should not be mixed. ECC and non-ECC usually get
> along on the
> same mobo, but most of the time, the ECC part will be ignored if
> non-ECC is
> in the mix. Unbuffered and registered should not be mixed an most likely
> will not work together.
>
> Bottom line: Whether to use registered or not depends on your
> mobo. Whether
> you want ECC or not depends on how dearly you love your data. If
> you don't
> absolutely need both, it usually is a better choice to spend the extra
> money on high quality memory, such as Kingston or Crucial. Bad (cheap)
> memory is usually the cause of many system crashes for which the software
> gets blamed.
>
> BS
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:50:25 -0700
From: "George Loch"
To:
Subject: Re: OHCI firewire
Message-ID: <010701c0f065$0798ee40$10b6bad0@csolutions.net>
Thanks Joe. I actually have a G4/FCP setup at work and before that I had the
Promax/Premeire bundle so, I am familiar with premiere. I just wanted
something to play with at home. I will probably get After Effects as well I
love trying new things with it.
George Loch
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Parker
To:
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: OHCI firewire
>
> >I am setting up my home system(Dell P3/500) to push premiere's buttons(or
> >have it push mine), what would you recommend for the firewire card? I
will
> >be using Prem.6.x and the TRV-900.
>
>
> Any cheap OHCI 1394 card will do fine for a starter DV system. If you want
> a lot of company (i.e., user support), try an ADS Pyro. www.adstech.com
>
> They have some nice Premiere bundles, but know that Ulead Media Studio
> Express is more intuitive and a much easier program to learn.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joel W. Smit"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID: <20010608210858.3591.qmail@web5304.mail.yahoo.com>
Hope this gets through, Yahoo is being difficilt...
Guys,
This is interesting info, but 90% I had already
researched. Here is what I know about my system and
memory:
ECC mem is really a must have for video work IMHO.
My Tyan runs at 100Mhz bus.
PC133 will slow down to 100Mhz on my board- thats
fine.
Board supports up to 1GB as 4x 256MB modules.
This board was tested with 256MB ECC Registered
SDRAMs, and ECC unregistered smaller modules with
warnings not to mix reg'ed with unreg'ed types
--implying that ECC UNregistered modules of the larger
256MB modiles were OK to use--just don't mix them.
I am just asking if 4) 256MB ECC SDRAMs will work OK
or if it is highly recommended to opt for the more
expensive ECC REGISTERED modules.
I may want to use the memory later on in a 133Mhz bus
system and don't want to risk incompatability with
some feature that is not absolutely necessary.
So, is ECC memory good enough or should I "really had
better go with the ECC REGISTERED".
Damn I am annoying.
Joel
--- Dave Haynie wrote:
>
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:02:17 +0200, Bertel Schmitt
> jammed all night, and by
> sunrise was heard saying:
>
> > At 09:41 PM 6/7/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > >The most pressing decision is whether or not I
> *need*
> > >or *should* use ECC registered modules.
>
> > First off, ECC and registered is not one of the
> same.
>
> > "ECC" stands for Error Checking and Correcting
> (sometimes also for Error
> > Correcting Code or Error Correcting Circuitry ..).
>
> That's correct.
>
> > It involves an extra bit
> > on your memory (i.e. an 8 bit wide memory is 9
> bits wide). With that, the
> > ECC memory can correct single bit errors and
> identify multi-bit errs.
>
> That's not quite correct. A single bit per byte,
> classically, is driven
> as parity memory. A parity bit can detect a simple
> error: the memory
> controller essentially sums the byte, and stores its
> odd-or-evenness in
> the parity byte. On a read, if the parity byte
> doesn't match, the system
> can be informed of the error, but it can't do too
> much about it.
>
> ECC is a more advanced concept. Rather than a simple
> system like parity,
> an ECC system takes a larger value (usually 64-bits
> at a time, which
> just happens to match our current bus width in the
> typical PC) and,
> using some fairly cool mathematics, generates a
> special code for that
> value. For a 64-bit memory, the simplest form of ECC
> needs an additional
> 8-bits, which is the same extra memory as you'd need
> for parity.
>
> ECC is something of a tradeoff, but not a big one. A
> parity system could
> detect one bit error per byte in a 64-bit memory,
> but that's fairly
> useless, since after one error, you're probably
> going to throw the whole
> thing away, anyway. Using an ECC code, you can
> detect two bit errors
> across the whole 64-bit memory. That's not as many
> errors, but the
> location doesn't matter (eg, it could be two bits in
> the same byte). But
> better still, the scheme can actually correct a
> single bit error,
> preventing the need to signal an error.
>
> > "Registered" means that the memory is "buffered"
> with special circuitry.
> > This way the computer sees a clean sharp clock
> signal instead of a
> > weakening clock signal as it progresses along the
> length of the memory path.
>
> Not exactly. In a normal unbuffered DIMM module, you
> have an array of
> memory chips connected directly to the memory bus.
> All modern systems
> have individually buffered clocks feeding each DIMM,
> and of course, the
> memory itself is clocked. This means, data changes
> on the module when
> the clock changes, which makes data transfers more
> reliable and faster,
> since they're very predictable.
>
> However, typical CMOS memory chips aren't as fast as
> some other chips,
> specifically buffer chips. In a registered DIMM, a
> set of buffer chips
> sits between the data bus and the memory chips.
> These are not
> transparent buffers (which would slow things down,
> due to the inevitable
> delay through the part), but latched, or registered
> buffers -- they
> store a value. Since these parts are faster than
> memory chips, the CPU
> will only ever read or write to the registered
> buffer, while at the same
> time, the next/previous cycle (depending on read or
> write) actually
> takes place between the buffer and the memory chips.
>
>
> The other advantage is the buffering effect. You get
> one load on the
> memory bus, rather than potentially many. This can
> allow more memory
> modules to be supported on the same memory bus --
> one reason registered
> DIMMs have been commonplace in server machines for
> some time.
>
> > No wonder both are more expensive.
>
> ECC adds one 8-bit memory chip. More expensive, yes,
> but at today's
> prices, you're taking about 9/8th the price.
> Registers are fairly cheap
> TTL chips, possibly less costly than adding the ECC
> chip. The main
> imbalance in price is the disparity in volume --
> anything not made in
> consumer PC quantities gets expensive. Well, that,
> and the fact that, by
> the time you've paid $50,000 for a moderate server
> machine, the cost of
> additional memory isn't such a big deal versus the
> cost of downtime if
> the system fails.
>
> > Now for the caveat: ECC and registered memory must
> be supported by the
> > system board. Some do not work with registered and
> explicitly require
> > "unbuffered" memory. Some system boards work with
> nothing but registered
> > memory.
>
> Yup. Well, sorta -- if your board doesn't support
> ECC, you're just
> hanging those chips there, wasting power and not
> much else. The same
> module works with parity controllers, so that's also
> not an issue.
>
> The registered mode, however, must be supported by
> the memory controller.
> This is because the registers introduce a cycle's
> worth of delay and
> require memory addresses to be pipelined.
>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:35:50 -0700
From: Guillaume Iacino
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Top end Mac solution for NLE
Message-ID:
Hi,
I am trying to figure out the best configuration for a real time NLE
station on Mac platform. I would have different type of sources
(composite, Y/C, DV, component).
So far by searching couple of sites and the DV list archives I found
that the best will be:
- G4 Dual processor (with a lot of RAM)
Capture card:
- Aurora Igniter card
PCI card:
- the Ahard : AEC-6860M from Acard
or
- the ProMax TurboMax.
Which one is better/faster?
Hard drive (RAID):
- IBM 75 GXP 7200 rpm Ultra ATA/100
0r
- Matrox 7200 rpm
First I thought that a SCSI drive will be better but I don't see a
lot of people recommended it. Why?
Any comments or advices on this configuration or other possibilities
will be welcome.
Thank you in advance.
--
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][ QuickTime Wired Media Expert
][ Experience, Learn and Understand QuickTime Interactive.
][
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:39:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: time for a DV500/DSR300?
Message-ID: <20010608213952.13550.qmail@web4005.mail.yahoo.com>
looking for.
>
> I guess this is the limit of what we can do given
> the small size of the CCDs
> of DV cameras in this class.
>
> Does this mean that our requirements are now beyond
> the capability of the
> camera? Does this mean its time for a JVC DV500 or a
> DSR300?
>
Yep. You can't violate the laws of optics. Go for a
DSR500...remember that the DSR300 has 1/2 inch chips,
while the 500 has 2/3". But, the camera is so light
sensitive that I shoot at a -3db all the time and
still sometimes use an ND under conditions that I
considered to be low light back in my Betacam days.
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:50:03 -0700
From: "George Loch"
To:
Subject: Re: Top end Mac solution for NLE
Message-ID: <015501c0f06d$5be4d9c0$10b6bad0@csolutions.net>
I have this very setup and it has worked great except that I have struggled
to get it to capture at 2:1 compression. I am still not sure if it is the
ahard or what. I would recommend it except that the igniter will not be
real-time. It is also tricky to integrate dv footage and analog footage in
FCP. Right now, if image quality is primo importante then go with this setup
else if real-time is most important, go with a promax RT-Max/DA-MAX combo.
George Loch
----- Original Message -----
From: Guillaume Iacino
To:
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:35 PM
Subject: Top end Mac solution for NLE
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to figure out the best configuration for a real time NLE
> station on Mac platform. I would have different type of sources
> (composite, Y/C, DV, component).
>
> So far by searching couple of sites and the DV list archives I found
> that the best will be:
>
>
> - G4 Dual processor (with a lot of RAM)
>
> Capture card:
> - Aurora Igniter card
>
>
> PCI card:
> - the Ahard : AEC-6860M from Acard
> or
> - the ProMax TurboMax.
> Which one is better/faster?
>
> Hard drive (RAID):
> - IBM 75 GXP 7200 rpm Ultra ATA/100
>
> 0r
> - Matrox 7200 rpm
>
> First I thought that a SCSI drive will be better but I don't see a
> lot of people recommended it. Why?
>
> Any comments or advices on this configuration or other possibilities
> will be welcome.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> --
> Guillaume Iacino
> ][ QuickTime Wired Media Expert
> ][ Experience, Learn and Understand QuickTime Interactive.
> ][
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:53:58 -0700
From: "George Loch"
To:
Subject: Pioneer dvd-rw in a firewire enclosure?
Message-ID: <015f01c0f06d$e7b871a0$10b6bad0@csolutions.net>
I wonder if this would work? It would be neat for the laptop editing folks.
George Loch
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:12:34 +0000
From: villas
To:
Subject: monitoring sound in post
Message-ID:
Hi,
for someone who likes portability, is it viable, or even suggested to use
headphones (instead of, say, nice pricey genelecs) to monitor sound with my
powerbook? Afterall, its what is suggested to monitor sound while shooting.
JohnT.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:25:56 -0700
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Top end Mac solution for NLE
Message-ID:
At 2:35 pm -0700 8/6/01, Guillaume Iacino wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am trying to figure out the best configuration for a real time NLE
>station on Mac platform. I would have different type of sources
>(composite, Y/C, DV, component).
>
>So far by searching couple of sites and the DV list archives I found
>that the best will be:
>
>
>- G4 Dual processor (with a lot of RAM)
>
>Capture card:
>- Aurora Igniter card
>
If you're really going top end, look at the Cinewave and Digital
Voodoo cards, as they do uncompressed video.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:41:27 -0400
From: Michael Harpe
To:
Subject: Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Message-ID:
on 6/8/01 12:21 PM, Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503 at johnsonb@wpt.org wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>
>> I just get so tired of seeing the crap MTV puts out
> being fawned over as some kind of terrific
> acheivement.<
>
> You and me too, brother, but I'll give them this:
>
> At least MTV's "award" shows are done in a tongue-in-cheek
> manner. If they acted like it was the Oscars I'd have to puke.
I will grant you that. At least they don't take themselves too seriously
with that show.
I know I am on about MTV a lot but for Pete's Sake, they run a show called
"Jackass" that is hosted by someone called Johnny Knoxville. Ugh!
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:45:01 -0400
From: Michael Harpe
To:
Subject: Re: "Strictly DV-L" (was breaking the rules)
Message-ID:
> And BTW, I was working at a cable system the day MTV went on
> the air. It was interesting then; it was really novel.
>
> The novelty wore off decades ago.
Well, it's not that the novelty wore off, they did away with it on purpose.
In the early days of Martha Quinn (sigh) and the others, they actually were
experimenting. Videos were new and the performers just liked being on TV.
Now with Viacom its just a giant promotion machine.
Mike
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:47:35 -0400
From: Michael Harpe
To:
Subject: Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Message-ID:
"If I told you that one, tiny ad in major newspapers could make you
THOUSANDS...."
Don Lupre (sp?) lives on.
Don's ads are least somewhat funny.
Mike
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joel W. Smit"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Which Minidisc and AccessoriesTo Get?
Message-ID: <20010609000019.16234.qmail@web5304.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Justus,
I've been to minidisc.org (forgot to mention this
extensive site in my original post) but didn't find
the definitive answer on usb for the Sharps. The
sharps do allow level adjustments while recording that
the Sony does not. Once again I have to decide
between feature trade-offs.
You've been very helpful.
Any opinion on the Sennheiser K6 modular mic system?
Or the 2 piece Azden SGM-2X shotgun cardoid /
supercardoid?
Joel
--- "Justus J. Schlichting"
wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:58:14 -0700 (PDT), Joel
> wrote:
> >Justus,
> >
> >Do any of the MD recorders you mentioned have a
> >digital link to a PC like the Sonys USB "DPC
> >Connection"?
>
> All the MDs I mentioned have digital out (which
> requires a sound
> card and connector). I believe the two top Sharps
> (831 and MT77)
> also have an optional USB connector - but don't
> trust me on this.
> Try http://www.minidisc.org/ for comparison charts.
>
>
> -- Justus J. Schlichting, justus-j@deltanet.com on
> 06/08/2001
>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:33:32 EDT
From: Postl585@aol.com
To: dv-l@dvcentral.org
Subject: OT: Film premiere on IFILM. com
Message-ID:
Hopefully, I'm not breaking any ettiquette here, but my film "Beaver in the
Box" premieres on IFILM.com today. So if you might be so inclined, please
give it a look. You could use this link
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/skeletons/film_detail/0,1263,1241442,00.html
or just go to WWW.IFILM.COM and search on "Beaver in the Box". Thanks.
--------David
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:05:08 -0700
From: Eric Bin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Cc: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: Top end Mac solution for NLE
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010607205544.00ad3d90@pop.telus.net>
At 02:35 PM 2001-06-08 -0700, Guillaume Iacino wrote:
>Hard drive (RAID):
>- IBM 75 GXP 7200 rpm Ultra ATA/100
>
>0r
>- Matrox 7200 rpm
>
>First I thought that a SCSI drive will be better but I don't see a lot of
>people recommended it. Why?
The 75GXP has been supplanted by the 60GXP which has 20GB platters instead
of 15GB platters - both are great drives although there was a large number
of 45GB 75GXP which were going bad for sometime, that problem has since
been fixed.
For uncompressed (or lightly compressed) video these drives are inadequate
of themselves - a RAID 0 would be necessary and a SCSI would probably make
sense except that they cost a boatload compared to IDE drives. Eg. A 10k
36GB IBM SCSI drive is $649CDN while a 7200rpm 40GB IBM IDE drive is only
$215CDN. 3:1 compression on a RAID 0 should work fine (others: correct me
if I'm wrong).
cheers,
Eric Bin,
ericbin@telus.net
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:56:46 +0900
From: "Robert Reilly"
To: "DV-L"
Subject: Image degradation
Message-ID: <008201c0f0a1$1c103900$9521d8cb@rreilly.gol.com>
Hello.
Due to limited disk space (65gig), I am often forced on occasion to export
partially completed segments or sequences to tape for later recapture and
continued edit work and, of course, re-export to tape. These clips and sequences
may or may not have needed rendering for dissolves/filters etc.
Aside from the obvious drawback of the possibilty of dropped frames, should I
expect some degradation of image/sound quality due to this repeated
capture/export/capture procedure? My apologies in advance if this is an obvious
question.
Thanks
Robert
PB G3 400
640 mb ram
EditDV 2.0
QT 5.0.1
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"We must never forget that the brain is a secondary organ."
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:42:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: magicmomentsvid@webtv.net (Walt S)
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Mini DV Video Tape
Message-ID: <7871-3B21B75F-1067@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
Now that I am the proud owner of a Canon GL-1, I have become 'videotape
shy' after reading the video tape comments on this list.
Is it still advisable to not mix mini video tape between Brand
names? I've used Panasonic AY-DVM60EJ1 and then had to buy 3 Sony tapes
as no Panasonic tapes were available at that time. I just purchased more
Panasonic mini DV tapes but noticed a 'W' following the AY-DVM60EJ1W.
Would any one know what the 'W' means?
Has anything been published as to what manufacturers make what
Brands or what tests have been made on the many Brands names available
as to the quality or rating of each Brand? These tests were done many
years go with the VHS tapes that even had charts, graphs and verbiage
for each Brand tested.
Is it still good practice to stay with only one Brand to eliminate
the head clog problem? And, lastly, can I degauss these mini DV tapes
and reuse (record) on them again?.
Walt S. from Ct.
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