DV-L Mon, 11 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 883
In this issue:
Re: New Canopus Card- DV Raptor RT!!!
Subject: Re: Mini DV Video Tape
Re: New Canopus Card- DV Raptor RT!!!
Premiere 6 and DVCam?
Re: Pioneer dvd-rw in a firewire enclosure?
Re: Avid DV
Re: DV Deck or cheap camera for editing?
pioneer DVR-A03 (any shop in singapore-malaysia)
PD150 Mattebox
Re: PD150 Mattebox
SDi Link
RE: Avid DV (now certification rant)
RE: New Canopus Card- DV Raptor RT!!!
Re: SDi Link
Dual Athlon Mobos
Re: workdrives
ECC Registered or waste of money?
Re: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Re: workdrives
Premiere losing frames in capture
Re: SDi Link
Re: PD150 Mattebox
Re: PD150 Mattebox
Re: Sparking Eyes ?
RE: Field Render Order
Re: Field Render Order
Re: PD150 Mattebox
Re: Premiere losing frames in capture
Re: Premiere 6 and DVCam?
Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Re: Field Render Order
Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Re: DV Deck or cheap camera for editing?
Re: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Re: breaking the rules #3 [very OT]
Re: DV Sound Recordist Needed--Gloucester MA
Re: DV Deck or cheap camera for editing?
XL2 Rumors?
Re: XL2 Rumors?
Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Re: PD150 Mattebox
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:17:19 +1000
From: "Denni Schutt"
To:
Subject: Re: New Canopus Card- DV Raptor RT!!!
Message-ID: <003601c0f17d$631e25a0$0300a8c0@nsw.bigpond.net.au>
Aussie Pesos not US$s!!!!!!
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:47:47 -0700
From: "Joseph Karr O'Connor"
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Subject: Re: Mini DV Video Tape
Message-ID: <3B233433.94D88E59@earthlink.net>
And at the end of the month, when short of the rent money, consider
doing what Scotty of Scottsound in Hollywood taught me to do. Put your
outbound bank checks on the bulk degausser and nuke 'em. The magnetic
ink is no longer magnetic. They get spit out of the system at both their
bank and your bank. May buy you an extra day or three:-)
Adam Wilt wrote:
>> Is it still advisable to not mix mini video tape between Brand
>> names?... Is it still good practice to stay with only one Brand to
>> eliminate the head clog problem?
>See: http://www.adamwilt.com/Tidbits.html#DVgunking
>> And, lastly, can I degauss these mini DV tapes and reuse (record) on them > again?.
>Yes, even without degaussing. I've gone 300 record/rewind/recue/play passes on
>a DV tape before seeing an increase in dropout.
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:56:09 -0400
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: New Canopus Card- DV Raptor RT!!!
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010610044832.01e153e0@mail.speakeasy.org>
>Aussie Pesos not US$s!!!!!!
Even in Australian dollars the DV500 is nowhere near $1281 USD. And the
RT2000 has been discontinued.
Maybe they pay a bit more down under, but the current DV500 pricing is
around $700 USD and the RT2500 $900 USD - do they really pay $500 USD extra
on a $700 USD card?
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:26:35 +0100
From: "Les Howarth"
To: "DV -L Organization"
Subject: Premiere 6 and DVCam?
Message-ID: <002901c0f18f$8f1c7c80$9865fea9@mediastation1>
Question for Premiere6 experts (PC)
- does Premiere6 support DVCam output, can't find any switches for
Consumer vs Pro Audio locking anywhere. Is this down to setting in
the codec ? since Prem6 does realtime audio mixing dowm firewire I
though this would be Premiere's responsibility.
We are likely to be switching to DVCam this summer, and would like
to hear if anyone is using Prem6 in this context.
Les Howarth
Real-Time Images
http://www.rtpix.co.uk
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:25:50 -0400
From: Gary Bettan
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Pioneer dvd-rw in a firewire enclosure?
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010610072518.00cd0730@pop3.cris.com>
At 03:53 PM 6/8/01 -0700, you wrote:
>I wonder if this would work? It would be neat for the laptop editing folks.
It will. Lacie, ADS and others are offering them (Not shipping yet).
Gary
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:30:21 -0400
From: Gary Bettan
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Avid DV
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010610072816.00ce3f00@pop3.cris.com>
At 02:29 PM 6/9/01 +0000, you wrote:
>I have some questions and I hope anyone answer it for me
>
>1) Is Avid Xpress DV 2 with Pyro 1394 DV work with the miniDV JVC recorder
>(BR-DV600E)?
yes
>2) Can I edit in 16:9 mode with Avid Xpress DV 2?
yes
>3) Can I transfer 16:9 picture from Avid Xpress DV 2 to VHS tape to view
>it in normal mode? Or it will be stretched?
Not sure.
We are having great success with Xpress DV. It really is extremely powerful
and productive. We put it on an off the shelf Dell Precision workstation
and it runs great.
Gary
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:33:39 -0400
From: Gary Bettan
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Deck or cheap camera for editing?
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010610073140.00d1bed0@pop3.cris.com>
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At 05:29 PM 6/9/01 -0400, you wrote:
>I need a DV deck to capture footage, write out tapes and to have a hard codec
>while editing so I can watch my work on a composite monitor.
check out the JVC HRDVS-2. It is a combination DV and SVHS deck. We use
one in our trainign room and it works with our Pinnacle, Matrox, Canopus &
ADS DV cards.
The dubs from DV to VHS or S-VHS are gorgeous.
http://www.videoguys.com/jvc.htm
Gary
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At 05:29 PM 6/9/01 -0400, you wrote:
I need a DV deck to capture footage, write out tapes and to have a hard codec
while editing so I can watch my work on a composite monitor.
check out the JVC HRDVS-2. It is a combination DV and SVHS deck. We use one in our trainign room and it works with our Pinnacle, Matrox, Canopus & ADS DV cards.
The dubs from DV to VHS or S-VHS are gorgeous.
http://www.videoguys.com/jvc.htm
Gary
The Electronic Mailbox 800 323-2325
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assurance program and FREE Tech Support (516) 759-1615
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:17:30 +0530
From: ic
To:
Subject: pioneer DVR-A03 (any shop in singapore-malaysia)
Message-ID:
is there any good shop/good deal for buying pioneer's latest DVD WRITER
"DVR-A03"
thanks for reference
IC
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:59:12 -0400
From: beachtv
To:
Subject: PD150 Mattebox
Message-ID:
Can anyone recommend a mattebox for the Sony PD150?
Thanks!
Aaron
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:14:10 -0700
From: Carroll Lam
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: PD150 Mattebox
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010610071338.00be49b0@139.121.3.10>
At 09:59 AM 6/10/01 -0400 all or part of what beachtv wrote included:
>Can anyone recommend a mattebox for the Sony PD150?
Try www.cavision.com, Aaron.
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Regards,
Carroll Lam
CLamCam Video
Casablanca Dealer in Tucson, AZ
(520) 405-6645
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:17:00 -0000
From: "babu jibson"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: SDi Link
Message-ID:
Hi all
Can anyone suggest me which is best Dv converter. How is SDi Link?Is anyone tried?
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:22:51 -0600
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Subject: RE: Avid DV (now certification rant)
Message-ID:
> If you want to go there, then go to Promax
> who has actually put a system together that has been Avid certified.
I wouldn't be so quick to push the "certified" angle.
Manufacturers have an agenda, as do resellers. And they are not always
looking to the immediate best interests of the end-user. In a time of
hammered stock prices, companies are under more pressure than ever to sell
product.
Case in point. We were recently asked to submit an RT2500 system to Matrox
in order to be listed on a special certified "turnkey" system page. We
declined as we didn't want to rush the buildout. We have a decent memory
about how the RT2000 got rolled out last year.
Since that time, we have shown Matrox that several motherboards listed as
certified have some issues with one of them being unusable. We have also
identified a certified soundcard as not working.
Ideally, certification should work as a validation phase. The manufacturer
providing guidance and even software to enhance a resellers configuration.
Unfortunately, it is often more of a marketing directive to identify
resellers who are willing to advertise and push products.
Now, I'm certain Charles is working hard to get Windows experience and do a
great job there. He has always done a great job in the mac community. We
simply feel that manufacturer certification often isn't worth the weight
that folks put in it.
Of course, at DVLine we never get so deep in bed with our manufacturers that
we are obligated to tow the line. I will certainly hear from Matrox next
week about this post and frankly that is fine. We are in business to serve
customers, not manufacturers. We do it the old fashioned way; we test a
bunch of components and then bring workstations out that work. Usually, we
will then post some tech articles on why we go a certain direction.
We are working with Avid at present and time will tell how they feel about
the certification process and whether it means much. One thing is for sure,
I won't have any problem biting the hand that feeds me if it is simply
marketing.
Thanks,
Ken Bell
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:24:15 -0600
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Subject: RE: New Canopus Card- DV Raptor RT!!!
Message-ID:
Its for real. It will be interesting to see how well it does in the states.
We have been told that this product will start out only available direct
from Canopus, not from dealers. I'm certain this is a fluid situation, so
time will tell.
Thanks,
Ken Bell
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Parker [mailto:jp1@speakeasy.org]
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:43 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: New Canopus Card- DV Raptor RT!!!
>
>
> Don't bother. Late April Fool's joke.
>
> Or the prices of RT2000's have gone up a LOT since I looked last.
>
>
> At 10:54 PM 6/9/2001, you wrote:
>
> >http://www.newmagic.com.au/product-dvraptor-rt.htm
> >
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:25:55 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SDi Link
Message-ID: <3B238373.FAE4A261@sympatico.ca>
babu jibson wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Can anyone suggest me which is best Dv converter.
What exactly do you mean by "Dv converter"?
> How is SDi Link? Is anyone tried?
SDI can carry any format for digital video. If you are considering a
non-linear edit system, the main advantage of SDI is, if you ever
upgrade from DV or DVCAM to a higher sampling rate or higher resolution
format (eg, DigiBeta), you can still use your SDI NLE setup.
At this time, firewire is the prevailing standard for DV/DVCAM; however,
it won't work for other formats (though this might change eventually).
Charles
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:30:38 -0600
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Subject: Dual Athlon Mobos
Message-ID:
For those that are interested, but didn't see the press releases from AMD
last week.
Here are a couple of announced products that will support the dual AMD
configuration. We are working to get some advance motherboards to begin
testing with our systems.
Asus A7M266-D
MSI K7D MasterLR
Abit WA-2A
Tyan Thunder K7 and soon to come Tiger K7
The Tiger K7 should be cool as it doesn't have all the extraneous stuff like
onboard SCSI and dual LAN connectors.
Thanks,
Ken Bell
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:02:08 +0530
From: "Vivian Pimenta"
To:
Subject: Re: workdrives
Message-ID: <001101c0f1c3$5988d3f0$51ed5ecb@JIHREH>
Marc,
The SeaGate Barracuda 7200 RPM IDE drive is good enough for DV
work.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert C. Fisher"
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: workdrives
>
>
> Marc Couroux wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > To continue on the workdrive train of recent postings. I have a G4 533
> > dual and am looking to supplement it with some more workspace. Storage
> > is taken care of with an external FireWire 75GB.
> >
> > I've heard various things about IDE vs. SCSI : the main thing is that
> > IDEs are comparatively cheap, but no faster than 7200 rpm, and according
> > to the folks at macgurus.com (a very helpful site indeed), less reliable
> > than LVD Ultra-3 SCSI arrays. Their fastest drives are SEagate 15000rpm
> > Ultra-3 18GB, but they're a bundle of cash...and I'm assuming that one
> > will need at least 18 X 2 to do an hour of video work. Plus, for optimal
> > performance you need an ATTO card, which is 600$ USD. It starts to add
> > up.
> >
> > Is LVD ultra-3 overkill? In any case, I assume 36GBs is not nearly
> > enough for a one-hour finished project : as I will be working on various
> > non-consecutive segments, I will really need the whole project to be
> > present on the workdrive at all times.
> >
> > ANd if IDE is the way to go, what drives are the most reliable : IBM,
> > Maxtor, SEagate?
> >
> > Comments appreciated!
> >
> > MArc
>
> Oh and BTW I have had the best luck with the IBM drives, the Maxtors I
> have had just weren't as fast or as reliable as the IBM dirves.
>
> Cheers
> Bob Fisher
> FishPond Digital
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:20:10
From: "John Hartney"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID:
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joel W. Smit"
To: DV-LIST
Subject: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID: <20010608044120.308.qmail@web5304.mail.yahoo.com>
OK all you PC guri, this ain't a question about my
classic Pentium...
My Pentium III Intergragh ZX1 (Tyan Tiger 100 Mobo)
with the DTV card needs a memory upgrade, oh the
choices! I am going to pull the 2) 128's and pop in
4) 256 PC133 ECC chips.
The most pressing decision is whether or not I *need*
or *should* use ECC registered modules. They cost
around 30-40% more than just ECC modules and if they
are not critical for video work, I'll skip 'em.
Otherwise I will defer to the experience and expert
opinions of the Wintel Masters.
Also is a Tyan Approved mem vender a "must" or can
someone OK one of the more accessible brands like
Crucial etc.
******
Sorry if this has already been answered, I'm on the digest and haven't
checked in for a while, but if you're using the tyan 1832 tiger 100, the ecc
ram is worthless in terms of performance... for that matter, the bus is
100mhz so the pc133 won't perform at it's rated speed, either.
The board will work with 133 running at 100mhz, though. I have crucial in
one of my tyans and seimens in the other, they are both good manufacturers.
one of the best deals currently going with ram is at egghead.com 256meg
kingston value line for $59 per stick, buy three, get one free...
http://www.egghead.com/category/inv/00036741/03382346.htm
That means you can get a gig of ram for only $189 and kingston ram is
industry standard grade cas3 with, but runs fine and stable at cas2
overclocked. Should be fine for your tiger 100 1832 board.
Best,
John Hartney
Fox Valley DV
847.608.1357
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:30:32 -0700
From: "Clesson Duke"
To:
Subject: Re: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID: <005801c0f1ca$abbd1f80$4601a8c0@dev01>
Read the Tyan manual or check their website for memory compatibility.
Many motherboards can have ECC memory installed... but don't use it..
As a general rule, Registered or ECC memory might take a fraction longer to
get the data out... that might be crucial in video work, which relies on
straight-through data chains. ECC and Registered memory is used in database
applications to ensure data integrity. In video it manifests itself as a
blip/streak on the screen or a pop in audio.
Faster processors need faster memory. More intensive applications (like
video) need faster memory. Generally, the limiting factor is not the
memory, but the bus speed and/or the processor speed. That is: 133FSB is
faster than 100FSB, etc.
-
Clesson Duke
San Diego, CA USA
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:18:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Kyle Y. Root"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Message-ID:
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Brad Flickinger wrote:
> My name is Brad Flickinger, I use my iMac DV and Canon ZR-10 to record the
> video biographies of people.
>
> I charge $899 for each 2-hour interview that I edit with iMovie.
>
We offer something similar for weddings. We interview the couple and their
parents. We then gather specific photos and home video related to
pre-decided interview topics and combine it all together into a 30 minute
'life sotry' production which is shown at the rehearsal dinner and
reception. Going rate is $2000.00 USD. (approx production time is 6 weeks)
Kyle
www.lookmomvideos.com
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:22:39 -0700
From: rob@gregorybrowne.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: workdrives
Message-ID: <3B234A6F.27890.4D89DEE@localhost>
On 10 Jun 2001, at 14:02, Vivian Pimenta wrote:
> Marc,
> The SeaGate Barracuda 7200 RPM IDE drive is good enough
> for DV
> work.
Sure is. But on my PIII I use a 5400 RPM IDE Maxtor drive and
have absolutely no problems at all. No dropped frames, ever. So
while it's nice to have an expensive drive, it's not absolutely
necessary.
rgb
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:37:21 -0700
From: "Chris Tissot"
To:
Subject: Premiere losing frames in capture
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:54:51 -0500
From: shane@soldesignfx.com (Shane Walker)
To:
Subject: Re: SDi Link
Message-ID:
If you're referring to an SDI-to-DV converter, we've had pretty good luck
with the Miranda DV-Bridge. It allows input and output for $2K USD (we use
it to capture Quicktimes from Digibeta as well as reslate master and
submaster reels), and if you treat the 'finicky' Firewire port with respect
(i.e. Shut down apps going "out" before launcing ones pulling "in" through
the converter) it operates well.
As to a product called "SDI Link", I'm not familiar with it.
Hope this helps,
Shane Walker
shane@soldesignfx.com
> babu jibson wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Can anyone suggest me which is best Dv converter.
>
> What exactly do you mean by "Dv converter"?
>
>> How is SDi Link? Is anyone tried?
>
> SDI can carry any format for digital video. If you are considering a
> non-linear edit system, the main advantage of SDI is, if you ever
> upgrade from DV or DVCAM to a higher sampling rate or higher resolution
> format (eg, DigiBeta), you can still use your SDI NLE setup.
>
> At this time, firewire is the prevailing standard for DV/DVCAM; however,
> it won't work for other formats (though this might change eventually).
>
>
>
>
>
> Charles
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:09:08 -0700
From: Mark Wade
To:
Subject: Re: PD150 Mattebox
Message-ID:
We use a Chrosziel Sunshade 3x3 (model S1001). Works well.
All the best, Mark.
> From: beachtv
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:59:12 -0400
> To:
> Subject: PD150 Mattebox
>
> Can anyone recommend a mattebox for the Sony PD150?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Aaron
>
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:45:04 -0500
From: Danny Grizzle
To:
Subject: Re: PD150 Mattebox
Message-ID:
on 6/10/01 1:09 PM, Mark Wade at digidog@frazmtn.com wrote:
> We use a Chrosziel Sunshade 3x3 (model S1001). Works well.
I own a Chrosziel for my DSR500 - I think it cost more than my PD150.
Come to think of it, my collection of 4x4 filters probably cost more than
the PD150. I'm about ready to cry 'uncle'. I'd like access to my 4x4 filters
on the PD150, but I'm not going to pay $1000 to do it. I even dug my old
Hoyarex square filter holder out of my old Super 8 film package on the
chance that it would work (it wouldn't).
(Hoyarex was Hoya's long-ago answer to Cokin's large P size square filters.
The filter holder is quite nice, and mounts just fine to the PD150, but it
won't take 4x4 filters.)
I've got some odd-sized 4x5 gradient filters. Chrosziel wants $230 for a
filter frame just to hold them in the matte box!
I'm just about aggravated enough with overpriced matte boxes to draw up some
plans and go into the business myself. One thing I'd like to see is a
mounting point for Lowel's flex arm and small tota flags, which would serve
great as a french flag on the camera.
Danny Grizzle
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:56:39 -0500
From: Eric Donaldson
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sparking Eyes ?
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010610145028.00a6c080@mail.megacyberworld.com>
Eric from Oz,
This might not be exactly what you are looking for, but I ran into a
program called AlamDV recently that lets you add muzzle flashes, etc to a
video scene. Basically you are rotoscoping (editing each frame one at a
time) but the software automates the process so you can do it a lot faster
than if you were trying to do it manually in Photoshop.
http://www.alamdv.com/
One of the settings within AlamDV was for a Ghostbusters particle stream
and part of that effect was what they called the Ghostbusters tip. That
small glint might work for the attackers' eyes in your fight scene.
How long is the scene?
- Eric Donaldson
At 07:22 PM 6/4/01, you wrote:
>I want to add a continuing red glow (or perhaps a bright gleam) to the
>eyes of an attacker in a fight scene.
>(The project, originally DV, is currently on the timeline in Premier).
>
>How can I do this please?
>
>eric from Oz
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:03:44 -0700
From: Adam Wilt
To: DV-L
Subject: RE: Field Render Order
Message-ID: <3B23D2A0.D168167F@flash.net>
> how do you "bump" DV up or down one scan line or "offset" one scan
> line?
Put the clip into the comp and move it up or down one pixel.
Cheers,
AJW
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:10:42 -0700
From: Adam Wilt
To: DV-L
Subject: Re: Field Render Order
Message-ID: <3B23D442.78495984@flash.net>
> In Final Cut Pro you can change the field dominance on
> a clip itself without affecting the timeline settings. Would this also
> have the same effect as shifting the clip up or down a scan line?
I just tried this (admittedly a fake situation as I only have DV clips to work
with), and it didn't seem to make a difference.
Offsetting the clip by one line causes FCP to interpolate the data to avoid
reversed-field interlace tearing; the vertical resolution suffered. Nothing I
did with field dominance affected this.
The same test in After Effects caused interpolation with the same field
dominance, no interpolation but reversed fields (really jagged motion!) with
the field dominance flipped.
I may well have missed a setting somewhere in FCP, or this could be one of
those cases where FCP is protecting me from myself, and to really get down 'n'
dirty requires moving to After Effects.
A more experienced compositor should chime in at this point and let us know
what the real answer is!
In any case I can't answer your question definitively as my FCP tests were
inconclusive.
> Whenever I need to capture something from our DV cams instead of
> Beta I dig the DV from the SVideo into the Media 100... never
> seen a problem with digitizing the DV footage via analog ie, footage
> shot with lower field first, digitized with upper field first.
That's because you're *not* capturing *DV* per se: you're performing a capture
of an analog baseband signal to media100's MJPEG codec. That codec uses
upper-field first dominance.
Remember, it doesn't matter what the image was shot on or how it's stored on
tape. What matters is how the image is brought into your system, and what
capture card / codec was used to store the clip on disk.
Cheers,
Adam Wilt
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:16:29 -0400
From: "Bob S."
To:
Subject: Re: PD150 Mattebox
Message-ID:
Tiffen used to sell a 4X4 series #9 thread on the mount end, you just adapt
upwards to hold two filters. Don't know if they still sell it. Just a cheap
aluminum holder I bought through B&H Photo, though they had to special order
it. Good idea to then put a series #9 rubber lens shade on but make sure it
stays out of your widest frame. Don't even remember model number, price
around $100.00 if I recall. Call Tiffen and even if it is not in the catalog
tell them they used to do limited runs of it and see if you can get one.
Good luck,
Bob S.
===================================================
on 6/10/01 2:45 PM, Danny Grizzle at danny@mogulhost.com wrote:
> on 6/10/01 1:09 PM, Mark Wade at digidog@frazmtn.com wrote:
>
>> We use a Chrosziel Sunshade 3x3 (model S1001). Works well.
>
> I own a Chrosziel for my DSR500 - I think it cost more than my PD150.
>
> Come to think of it, my collection of 4x4 filters probably cost more than
> the PD150. I'm about ready to cry 'uncle'. I'd like access to my 4x4 filters
> on the PD150, but I'm not going to pay $1000 to do it. I even dug my old
> Hoyarex square filter holder out of my old Super 8 film package on the
> chance that it would work (it wouldn't).
>
> (Hoyarex was Hoya's long-ago answer to Cokin's large P size square filters.
> The filter holder is quite nice, and mounts just fine to the PD150, but it
> won't take 4x4 filters.)
>
> I've got some odd-sized 4x5 gradient filters. Chrosziel wants $230 for a
> filter frame just to hold them in the matte box!
>
> I'm just about aggravated enough with overpriced matte boxes to draw up some
> plans and go into the business myself. One thing I'd like to see is a
> mounting point for Lowel's flex arm and small tota flags, which would serve
> great as a french flag on the camera.
>
> Danny Grizzle
>
>
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:10:27 -0700
From: rob@gregorybrowne.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere losing frames in capture
Message-ID: <3B237FD3.2123.5A93463@localhost>
On 10 Jun 2001, at 11:37, Chris Tissot wrote:
> I have been using Premiere 6 and everytime i capture i seem to lose
> frames in the capture. I thought at first it was my computer but
> when i started to capture clips on another computer that had 6 i was
> losing frames on that. Is there something i can do or a patch i can
> get.
Run a diagnostic on your computer to see if the hard drive is up to
speed.
rgb
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:20:42 -0700
From: "Mike Jennings"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere 6 and DVCam?
Message-ID:
>Question for Premiere6 experts (PC)
>
>- does Premiere6 support DVCam output, can't find any switches for
>Consumer vs Pro Audio locking anywhere. Is this down to setting in
>the codec ? since Prem6 does realtime audio mixing dowm firewire I
>though this would be Premiere's responsibility.
Premiere outputs all audio in locked format. 44.1kHz audio is
downsampled to 32kHz automatically.
--Mike Jennings
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:30:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Al Warren
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Message-ID: <20010610233008.60005.qmail@web11704.mail.yahoo.com>
Your report isn't free - it is over 49 dollars. Isn't
there some law against false advertising?
--- Brad Flickinger wrote:
> My name is Brad Flickinger, I use my iMac DV and
> Canon ZR-10 to record the
> video biographies of people.
>
> I charge $899 for each 2-hour interview that I edit
> with iMovie.
>
> I never thought a retired newspaper man could make
> it in the video business,
> but it has been better than I ever imagined.
>
> I have prepared a report on how I do it if anyone is
> interested.
>
> go to http://www.myvideostory.com and click on the
> Free Report link
>
> Thanks for your time
> --
>
>
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:01:27 -0600
From: Brad Carter
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Field Render Order
Message-ID: <20010611000039.JEDK1193.femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com@localhost>
Hey Adam, you nail it. This is why I have been so concerned about the
field dominance. Whenever I have to make a comp in AE and I forget to
set the field dominance I would get the jagged motion if the scene was
not a static shot. I'm glad someone else could recreate this situation.
This is where I am still lost. If we output DV (lower field first) to
tape then play it on out TV (which from I understand form the engineers
at my station) displays upper field first, why don't se see the same
jagged motion like we see in AE if we forget to set the field
dominance? In my mind this how I see it. The DV output from my camera
sends the lower field first, the TV displays it as the upper field.
Next my camera sends the upper field to the TV which would be the lower
field (scan line). Isn't this reversing the order and if it does why
don't we see the same jagged effect?
I agree, if anyone can help with this one and explain it in more
detail. I'll dig out some of my books at work tomorrow and see if I can
find the answer. Unfortunately non of the engineers at my work know
much about the digital end, were still stuck in the analog Beta
stage. :(
Thanks again guys,
Brad
On Sunday, June 10, 2001, at 02:10 PM, Adam Wilt wrote:
> The same test in After Effects caused interpolation with the same field
> dominance, no interpolation but reversed fields (really jagged motion!)
> with
> the field dominance flipped.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:35:47 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Message-ID:
on 6/10/01 9:18 PM, Kyle Y. Root at rootk@email.uah.edu wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Brad Flickinger wrote:
>
>> My name is Brad Flickinger, I use my iMac DV and Canon ZR-10 to record the
>> video biographies of people.
>>
>> I charge $899 for each 2-hour interview that I edit with iMovie.
>>
>
> We offer something similar for weddings. We interview the couple and their
> parents. We then gather specific photos and home video related to
> pre-decided interview topics and combine it all together into a 30 minute
> 'life sotry' production which is shown at the rehearsal dinner and
> reception. Going rate is $2000.00 USD. (approx production time is 6 weeks)
>
> Kyle
> www.lookmomvideos.com
>
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Hello: This is a place to answer question and to assist individual whom
have difficulties along with other professional or beginning individuals.
This is generally not a place to sell at least this is my opinion. Your
prices are high for what you use and although your product may be excellent
it does not have the quality of most of the people who use this service.
Just my opinion. Tughollow
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:44:28 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Deck or cheap camera for editing?
Message-ID:
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on 6/10/01 1:29 AM, MojoSPFX@aol.com at MojoSPFX@aol.com wrote:
I need a DV deck to capture footage, write out tapes and to have a hard
codec
while editing so I can watch my work on a composite monitor.
The cheapest decks I have found are still around $1200. However, I had a
thought - why not buy a cheap DV camera (for around $500) and simply use it
as a deck? From what I've read, the main reason not to use a camera as a
deck is to avoid wear & tear on your camera, but if I'm not using it as a
camera...
Are there any downsides to this?
I'm using Edit DV 2.0 if that makes a difference.
Regards,
Mojo (Los Angeles)
Hij: I purchased a DV camera for that purpose at Beach Camera with the
insurance and dilivery cost or 500 USA dollars. Check them out on the
internet. I also believe they are a little less expensive now. Tughollow
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on 6/10/01 1:29 AM, MojoSPFX@aol.com at MojoSPFX@aol.com wrote:
I need a DV deck to capture footage,= write out tapes and to have a hard codec
while editing so I can watch my work on a composite monitor.
The cheapest decks I have found are still around $1200. However, I ha= d a
thought - why not buy a cheap DV camera (for around $500) and simply use it=
as a deck? From what I've read, the main reason not to use a camera a= s a
deck is to avoid wear & tear on your camera, but if I'm not using it as= a
camera...
Are there any downsides to this?
I'm using Edit DV 2.0 if that makes a difference.
Regards,
Mojo (Los Angeles)
Hij: I purchased a DV camera for that purpose at Beach Camera with th= e insurance and dilivery cost or 500 USA dollars. Check them out on th= e internet. I also believe they are a little less expensive now. = ;Tughollow
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:40:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joel W. Smit"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: ECC Registered or waste of money?
Message-ID: <20010611004025.17141.qmail@web5301.mail.yahoo.com>
John,
Well, do I feel stupid. You point out very well this
board does not support ECC memory! ECC is supported
in the L2 cache. I had gone all over the net and
creation and even read (some) of my board manual and
still missed this fact. Reading at 2pm rather than
2am makes a big difference!! I thought this board
supported ECC -- well @#%*. Now that I take at face
value what the manual states it sounds like only 256MB
REGISTERED modules are supported whereas the smaller
capacities can be UNregistered. AARG!
Oh well, the lessons that stick the best are those
associated with public humiliation.
Thanks to everyone who responded and a big THANKS to
John Hartney for motivating me to check the manual
AGAIN -- it even approves Crucial and Kingston where
the Tyan site made no mention of them.
Maybe I should go back to woodworking...
Joel Dubya
--- John Hartney wrote:
> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Joel W. Smit"
> To: DV-LIST
> Subject: SDRAM upgrade: ECC Registered or waste of
> money?
> Message-ID:
> <20010608044120.308.qmail@web5304.mail.yahoo.com>
> >
> ******
> Sorry if this has already been answered, I'm on the
> digest and haven't
> checked in for a while, but if you're using the tyan
> 1832 tiger 100, the ecc
> ram is worthless in terms of performance... for that
> matter, the bus is
> 100mhz so the pc133 won't perform at it's rated
> speed, either.
> ---SNIP----
> That means you can get a gig of ram for only $189
> and kingston ram is
> industry standard grade cas3 with, but runs fine and
> stable at cas2
> overclocked. Should be fine for your tiger 100 1832
> board.
>
> Best,
>
> John Hartney
> Fox Valley DV
> 847.608.1357
>
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:06:31 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: breaking the rules #3 [very OT]
Message-ID:
on 6/5/01 8:26 PM, Kevin Marks at kmarks@apple.com wrote:
> At 3:33 pm -0700 4/6/01, wes chow wrote:
>>> so). This technique is called 'whole language' or 'real books' or
>>> earlier 'look and say'.
>>
>> ah, that's what I thought you were talking about. I don't really
>> remember enough about this theory to argue with you, but I can give a
>> "real world" example...
>
> I said 40% of children fail to learn to read with this method - 60%
> therefore succeed, so anecdotal evidence from a smart individual like
> yourself is not helpful. This is a big part of the problem, as most
> people who make educational decisions are in the group who would
> learn to read anyway, however they are taught.
>
>
>> In middle school (this was about 10 years ago), I was put through three
>> years of this writing curriculum where we didn't learn any rules about
>> English grammar. Instead, we wrote a great deal of fiction and did
>> these exercises where we pinpointed grammatical errors in paragraph
>> snippets (called Gotcha's if I remember correctly).
>
> That is good - finding and correcting errors is a great way to learn.
> Sadly the "don't crush their spirit" dogma that set us off on this
> means that students have no way of knowing when or why they made a
> mistake, and so can't correct it, and end up repeating it.
>
>> I didn't learn
>> what an adjective was until highschool, but, for the most part, my
>> written English was pretty good (as well as for most of my classmates).
>
> Grammar is learned from the environment as part of learning speech -
> it is orthography that has to be taught - how to map sounds to
> written symbols (both letters and punctuation).
>
>> And to bring this post slightly closer to topic...
>>
>> I don't believe that I'm more talented or a quicker learner than the
>> average Joe, but a practical set of film knowledge typically fits in a
>> single book (correct me if I'm wrong), which I think is completely
>> reasonable for somebody to learn by trial and error.
>>
>
> It's possible to do so, but why force yourself to when you can learn
> it by reading? Writing is about communicating ideas; film is about
> communicating emotions. In this case the best way to learn is to read
> that single book (recommendations anyone?) and then try out the
> techniques described on your NLE to get a good feel for them.
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Hello: I am beginning working a film that is being worked out with Dene
Elders. The film comes from a book that was published and I have the total
rights to the book. All the money from the film will go to the Elders.
Would like to contact you directly To find out what where you are and what
you do since their are different parts to the Dene reservation. Tughollow
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:09:02 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Sound Recordist Needed--Gloucester MA
Message-ID:
on 6/5/01 8:02 PM, Mark Wade at digidog@frazmtn.com wrote:
> Hi all. I have a dilemma looping a couple lines from an actor. I'm in LA
> and he's in Gloucester MA doing a play. Any one out there who might be able
> to do it for me? It's for a low budget DV feature; we wouldn't be able to
> pay you a whole lot of money. Needs to be recorded on a high quality mic,
> preferably in a large room with lots of hard surfaces, on either DV or
> DVCAM.
>
> Thanks, mark.
>
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Hello: If you can not find someone from this group cotact me and I will
assist you since I have the equipment. Tughollow
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:20:14 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Deck or cheap camera for editing?
Message-ID:
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on 6/10/01 8:44 PM, david e. kahn at tughollow@bigplanet.com wrote:
on 6/10/01 1:29 AM, MojoSPFX@aol.com at MojoSPFX@aol.com wrote:
I need a DV deck to capture footage, write out tapes and to have a hard
codec
while editing so I can watch my work on a composite monitor.
The cheapest decks I have found are still around $1200. However, I had a
thought - why not buy a cheap DV camera (for around $500) and simply use it
as a deck? From what I've read, the main reason not to use a camera as a
deck is to avoid wear & tear on your camera, but if I'm not using it as a
camera...
Are there any downsides to this?
I'm using Edit DV 2.0 if that makes a difference.
Regards,
Mojo (Los Angeles)
Hij: I purchased a DV camera for that purpose at Beach Camera with the
insurance and dilivery cost or 500 USA dollars. Check them out on the
internet. I also believe they are a little less expensive now. Tughollow
Hello: I am sorry that I read your post to quickly. I would check Beach
Camera any way along with the Publication TV Technology. Between these
suggestions and other people here in this chat room I know that you will
find what you need. Tughollow
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on 6/10/01 8:44 PM, david e. kahn at tughollow@bigplanet.com wrote:
on 6/10/01 1:29 AM, MojoSPFX@aol.com at MojoSPFX@aol.com wrote:=
I need a DV deck to capture footage,= write out tapes and to have a hard codec
while editing so I can watch my work on a composite monitor.
The cheapest decks I have found are still around $1200. However, I ha= d a
thought - why not buy a cheap DV camera (for around $500) and simply use it=
as a deck? From what I've read, the main reason not to use a camera a= s a
deck is to avoid wear & tear on your camera, but if I'm not using it as= a
camera...
Are there any downsides to this?
I'm using Edit DV 2.0 if that makes a difference.
Regards,
Mojo (Los Angeles)
Hij: I purchased a DV camera for that purpose at Beach Camera with th= e insurance and dilivery cost or 500 USA dollars. Check them out on th= e internet. I also believe they are a little less expensive now. = ;Tughollow
Hello: I am sorry that I read your post to quickly. I would che= ck Beach Camera any way along with the Publication TV Technology. &nbs= p;Between these suggestions and other people here in this chat room I = know that you will find what you need. Tughollow
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:56:40 -0400
From: "Christopher Van Nest"
To: "DV-L"
Subject: XL2 Rumors?
Message-ID:
We recently purchased an XL1 (wanted frame mode) for use in an upcoming
shoot and I noticed that one of Canon's promotions ended on May31st. Any
interesting rumors to when the XL2 is coming out? We needed the XL1 now for
work and couldn't afford to wait for the unannounced, but I was just
wondering what the latest news is on the new model. In any case, I'm sure it
will be release just after my return window ends. ;-)
Thanks,
Christopher
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:02:04 -0700
From: "Mark Williams"
To:
Subject: Re: XL2 Rumors?
Message-ID: <001101c0f222$ee146de0$19b01e18@socal.rr.com>
I shoot surfing with my XL1, should I use normal mode, frame mode, or movie
mode when shooting,,,I can't seeme to figure out the difference,,,when I
shoot tests, everythng looks the same..my freeze frames come out great a
well...you can see my freeze frames at www.thecaliforniachannel.com
just a short, non tech answer is what I am looking for.
Mark W
Pacific Coast Digital
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Van Nest
To: DV-L
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 7:56 PM
Subject: XL2 Rumors?
> We recently purchased an XL1 (wanted frame mode) for use in an upcoming
> shoot and I noticed that one of Canon's promotions ended on May31st. Any
> interesting rumors to when the XL2 is coming out? We needed the XL1 now
for
> work and couldn't afford to wait for the unannounced, but I was just
> wondering what the latest news is on the new model. In any case, I'm sure
it
> will be release just after my return window ends. ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Christopher
> ____________________________
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:49:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Kyle Y. Root"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Business Idea: Video Biographies
Message-ID:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, david e. kahn wrote:
> Hello: This is a place to answer question and to assist individual whom
> have difficulties along with other professional or beginning individuals.
> This is generally not a place to sell at least this is my opinion. Your
> prices are high for what you use and although your product may be excellent
> it does not have the quality of most of the people who use this service.
Are you replying to me or Brad? Your comment about "your prices are high
for the equipment you use" makes me think you are replying to the original
post, but just for the record:
As I see it, what I posted falls within the bounds of normal list
activities. I was simply relaying the fact that we do something
similar. It's a new idea we decided to try for the wedding we did this
past Saturday. This was the first one we did and the 250 guests at the
reception were all ecstatic about it. We were pleased, and have since
added it to our new list of wedding customization options.
I do believe it is inappropriate to spam list readers with ads to come to
a site and buy something. However, I did not tell anyone to come to our
site and buy anything. Just stated what we did, how much we charged, and
how long it took. To me, that is a relevant exchange of information,
because I remember when my team and I were new to this, we really had no
solid starting point on what to charge and all the things that go into
making a wedding video.
This is a similar situation. We had never done a biography/documentary
before and when I saw Brad say he was charging $899, I wanted to jump in
with my $0.02 worth and tell about how we do something that is kind of
similar.
Kyle
www.lookmomvideos.com
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:23:49 -0700
From: Mark Wade
To:
Subject: Re: PD150 Mattebox
Message-ID:
Yeah they are absolutely outrageous $$$. I'm now looking at zeppelins and
boom mounts for a short shotgun mic and feeling just like you--I'm in the
wrong business! Maybe you could figure a way to make me a zeppelin and boom
mount while you're drawing up those matte box plans! ;-)
--mark.
> From: Danny Grizzle
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:45:04 -0500
> To:
> Subject: Re: PD150 Mattebox
>
> on 6/10/01 1:09 PM, Mark Wade at digidog@frazmtn.com wrote:
>
>> We use a Chrosziel Sunshade 3x3 (model S1001). Works well.
>
> I own a Chrosziel for my DSR500 - I think it cost more than my PD150.
>
> Come to think of it, my collection of 4x4 filters probably cost more than
> the PD150. I'm about ready to cry 'uncle'. I'd like access to my 4x4 filters
> on the PD150, but I'm not going to pay $1000 to do it. I even dug my old
> Hoyarex square filter holder out of my old Super 8 film package on the
> chance that it would work (it wouldn't).
>
> (Hoyarex was Hoya's long-ago answer to Cokin's large P size square filters.
> The filter holder is quite nice, and mounts just fine to the PD150, but it
> won't take 4x4 filters.)
>
> I've got some odd-sized 4x5 gradient filters. Chrosziel wants $230 for a
> filter frame just to hold them in the matte box!
>
> I'm just about aggravated enough with overpriced matte boxes to draw up some
> plans and go into the business myself. One thing I'd like to see is a
> mounting point for Lowel's flex arm and small tota flags, which would serve
> great as a french flag on the camera.
>
> Danny Grizzle
>
>
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