DV-L Wed, 25 Jul 2001 Volume 1 : Number 927
In this issue:
CCaption V5 pre release is available
RE: set a 1/100 Second shutter speed
"Disguising" voices
SV: "Disguising" voices
RE: DVDs made with iDVD won't play on all players
RE: set a 1/100 Second shutter speed
RE: DVDs made with iDVD won't play on all players
JVC DVL 40
Re: Adobe Premiere 6.0 puzzle
Promax RTMAX card due out soon?
Re: still image size
Pismo 500 for DV?
Re: still image size
RE: "Disguising" voices
OT..video stills to charicature animation??
RE: still image size
Re: "Disguising" voices
RE: OT..video stills to charicature animation??
dreaming of a fully video compatible world...
RE: dreaming of a fully video compatible world...
RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: Pismo 500 for DV?
RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Pismo 500 for running Director (slightly OT)
OT: Product placement in short films
RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: Pismo 500 for DV?
Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: Product placement in short films
Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: OT: Product placement in short films
Re: Pismo 500 for DV?
Attend the After Effects West Conference
Re: OT: Product placement in short films
RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: Pismo 500 for DV?
Steve - i want your 600Mhz Processor
DV as offline for HD
Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Composing for Film or Video
Re: The slowest purchase on the planet
NOTAC: General Virus Alert
Canopus Corporation's GREAT Tech Support Rocks!
Re: The slowest purchase on the planet
RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: The slowest purchase on the planet
Re: Canopus Corporation's GREAT Tech Support Rocks!
Re: AN NTSC TO PAL CONVERTER (WHERE TO PURCHASE)
Re: Standards Conversion (NTSC/PAL)
Re: Canon XL1s Test Results
Re: Standards Conversion (NTSC/PAL)
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 00:51:57 -0700
From: Jeff Schriebman
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: CCaption V5 pre release is available
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A pre release copy of CCaption V5 is available on Leapfrog
Production's ccaption web site and I am looking for feedback on any
and all of this software's feature set. I am also interested in any
problems that are encountered in its use.
Features of CCaption V5 include...
1. The ability to add closed captions to Digital Video using just a
Macintosh G3 or G4 computer. No hardware encoder is required.
2. The ability to add open captions to QuickTime movies via its text track.
3. The ability to generate a RealVideo open caption file.
4. The ability to generate open captions that can be superimposed
onto video with the use of video editing software such as Adobe
Premiere or Final Cut Pro.
5. The ability to extract closed captions from a previously captioned
video and create a text file of the captions complete with time code
reference.
6. The ability to use an Avid, Media 100, TARGA or DigiSuite based
video editing system to directly add closed captions to video
material.
7. The ability to use the data files generated by Cheetah Systems or
CPC closed captioning software as input for this functionality.
8. The ability to add Interactive TV links and Program Rating
Information to Digital Video without needing a hardware encoder.
CCaption V5 runs on Macintosh computers. If you are interested in a
version of CCaption V5 that runs on PCs send me email.
A complete download including software, User Manual and sample
caption description files can be found at http://www.ccaption.com.
Additional information about CCaption is available at ccaption.com.
Please note that CCaption V5 is beta software. The purpose of making
this software available in this manner is to get feedback on the
software before its final release. Please send any responses
regarding CCaption V5 directly to jeff@ccaption.com.
Thank you.
--
Jeff Schriebman http://www.ccaption.com 415-499-5609
Closed-Captioning and Interactive TV Link software solutions
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A pre release copy of CCaption V5 is available on Leapfrog Production's ccaption web site and I am looking for feedback on any and all of this software's feature set. I am also interested in any problems that are encountered in its use.
Features of CCaption V5 include...
1. The ability to add closed captions to Digital Video using just a Macintosh G3 or G4 computer. No hardware encoder is required.
2. The ability to add open captions to QuickTime movies via its text track.
3. The ability to generate a RealVideo open caption file.
4. The ability to generate open captions that can be superimposed onto video with the use of video editing software such as Adobe Premiere or Final Cut Pro.
5. The ability to extract closed captions from a previously captioned video and create a text file of the captions complete with time code reference.
6. The ability to use an Avid, Media 100, TARGA or DigiSuite based video editing system to directly add closed captions to video material.
7. The ability to use the data files generated by Cheetah Systems or CPC closed captioning software as input for this functionality.
8. The ability to add Interactive TV links and Program Rating Information to Digital Video without needing a hardware encoder.
CCaption V5 runs on Macintosh computers. If you are interested in a version of CCaption V5 that runs on PCs send me email.
A complete download including software, User Manual and sample caption description files can be found at http://www.ccaption.com. Additional information about CCaption is available at ccaption.com.
Please note that CCaption V5 is beta software. The purpose of making this software available in this manner is to get feedback on the software before its final release. Please send any responses regarding CCaption V5 directly to jeff@ccaption.com.
Thank you.
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Jeff Schriebman http://www.ccaption.com 415-499-5609
Closed-Captioning and Interactive TV Link software solutions
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 00:54:35 -0700
From: "Joseph Karr O'Connor"
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: RE: set a 1/100 Second shutter speed
Message-ID: <3B5D29BB.25FBEF09@blacktelephone.com>
Dear Steve,
And the information keeps flowing! This list is great. Thanks to all for
your tips and tricks of power conversion and now some very pertinent
advice about avoiding flicker with local lighting. Steve, I assume this
means all local lighting, including practicals (existing household,
store, street lighting, etc.) Should I then consider shooting everthing
at 1/100th shutter speed, including outdoor stuff for matching? Or can I
revert to 1/60th in natural lighting situation. Assuming I have the
raincoat on the camera and I don't get drowned myself:-) Nothing makes
it rain so much in Ireland as when you plan a trip there:-o
Thanks,
Joseph
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:10:21 -0400
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Subject: RE: set a 1/100 Second shutter speed
Message-ID: <000a01c1139a$5ade6460$ff646c42@nyc.rr.com>
"Look out for using your camera with our fluorescent lights though. Our
AC frequency is 50 Hz and can cause unpleasant flickering with cameras
based on 60 Hz."
LOOKING OUT WON'T HELP. You must set a 1/100 Second shutter speed. And
use it for all lighting for 100% flicker free video. But definitely with
fluorescent.
Best Regards,
Steve Mullen
Digital Video Consulting NYC
www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 03:11:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Wang
To: dv-l@dvcentral.org
Subject: "Disguising" voices
Message-ID:
Hi all --
I'm working on a project that involves some interviews with people, and
due to confidentiality reasons, it's necessary to mask their faces and
their voices (make it sound robotic, or synthesized), like they do on
news/police shows, etc.
I can handle the masking part with Premiere's built in effects easily
enough, but does anyone have some suggestions of how I might accomplish it
in audio? I have Cool Edit Pro, and have played around with bandpass
filters, etc, but I've found it either usually makes the voice illegible,
or otherwise doesn't too a good enough job of altering the "unique"
characteristics.
Does anyone have a favorite method of doing this? I know this isn't a
strictly video-related question, but well, it seems that the discussions
on this list tend to drift at times, so I figure I'd give it a shot. :)
Thanks in advance.
--
Mark Wang
mwang@cs.stanford.edu
http://www.markwang.com/
AIM: markwang99
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:54:14 +0200
From: "Jonas Hermansson"
To:
Subject: SV: "Disguising" voices
Message-ID: <000001c1141e$37326af0$6400a8c0@ws01>
Hi!
I have done this once, but in a linear editing situation. We used a box
called Harmonizer, which did the job well. The only problem being that it is
a terribly expensive one. I suppose thet there should be some plug-ins for
CoolEdit that could do the same though.
The parameters we changed was mainly the pitch level (by pitching the sound
up or down, you destroy most of the unique characteristics of the voice). By
also changing the pitch level over time (moving it up and down) makes it
even more corrupted. We also mixed in some of the original (un-pitched but
heavily EQ'd) sound (very low level) to make it sound a bit more natural.
I haven't used CooEdit - maybe the function is there as standard.
Jonas Hermansson (jonas-hermansson@telia.com)
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Fran: Mark Wang [mailto:mwang@cs.stanford.edu]
Skickat: den 24 juli 2001 10:11
Till: dv-l@dvcentral.org
Amne: "Disguising" voices
Hi all --
I'm working on a project that involves some interviews with people, and
due to confidentiality reasons, it's necessary to mask their faces and
their voices (make it sound robotic, or synthesized), like they do on
news/police shows, etc.
I can handle the masking part with Premiere's built in effects easily
enough, but does anyone have some suggestions of how I might accomplish it
in audio? I have Cool Edit Pro, and have played around with bandpass
filters, etc, but I've found it either usually makes the voice illegible,
or otherwise doesn't too a good enough job of altering the "unique"
characteristics.
Does anyone have a favorite method of doing this? I know this isn't a
strictly video-related question, but well, it seems that the discussions
on this list tend to drift at times, so I figure I'd give it a shot. :)
Thanks in advance.
--
Mark Wang
mwang@cs.stanford.edu
http://www.markwang.com/
AIM: markwang99
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:15:14 +0100
From: "Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: DVDs made with iDVD won't play on all players
Message-ID:
Viimar
The authoring burners record extra data for encryption etc. There are some
DVD players that will not play media without this data.
You have to realise there is a WAR out there concerning DVD-burners, with
various manufacturer groupings attempting to gain an edge with their systems
and Hollywood all the time fighting to retain control. Conversely there are
DVD transport manufacturers trying to keep up with the trends so their deck
will play the most media variations.
At stake is $Ms or even $Bs of future royalties! This will run and run for
several years yet.
Perry Mitchell
Video Consultant
http://www.perrybits.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Lindau, Viimar
Ok, but can anyone please explain me in little more detail, what is the
difference between DVD-R(G) and DVD-R(A)???
I've been reading this thred for quite a long time but I don't exactly
understand what is going on :) Maybe the problem is that english is not my
first language or maybe I've missed some important info in earlier messages.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:17:55 -0400
From: "David Mowbray"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: set a 1/100 Second shutter speed
Message-ID: <3B5D2123.10954.360AA90@localhost>
I've found that if you have an NTSC camera in a 50 cycle country,
the only place where 1/100 sec. makes a real difference is under
fluorescent lights. Even then it is not perfect and you will get some
flicker -- at least that has been my experience.
Incandescent lamps do fluctuate in brightness, but you would
probably not notice it. I think Bertel's advice to stay at 1/100 in all
circumstances is good because you won't be caught by surprise.
I've found, unfortunately, in shots outdoors with motion (moving
traffic for example) in front of the camera, the higher shutter speed
gives some shots an artificial look.
You takes your chances but the 10 cycle strobing under
fluorescents if you are at 1/60 by mistake is a real drag. And don't
think you will spot it in your view-finder as you shoot. It may not be
as obvious there.
Have a great trip.
Cheers
David Mowbray
Baobab Productions Inc
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.baobab.net
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:22:58 +0200
From: "Lindau, Viimar"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: DVDs made with iDVD won't play on all players
Message-ID:
Thanks Perry!
So, when I have player supporting both types of DVD discs, I should not
worry about this issue?
Anyway, seems that it would be better to wait when the WAR is over and then
check who won :)
But what about type of media? Is the only difference in extra data and
everything else is the same? I mean the disc.
I haven't tried to burn any DVD yet.... actually I never even seen one yet,
but I'm very excited about this topic and waiting when those burners arrive
to my corner of the world for reasonable price.
Right now I use EMTEC (formerly known as BASF) CD-R media, but I also
noticed in their last product catalog DVD-R media. Has anyone tried or
tested it writing own video on it??
Viimar
-----Original Message-----
From: Perry [mailto:perry.mitchell@btinternet.com]
Sent: 24. juuli 2001. a. 12:15
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: DVDs made with iDVD won't play on all players
Viimar
The authoring burners record extra data for encryption etc. There are some
DVD players that will not play media without this data.
You have to realise there is a WAR out there concerning DVD-burners, with
various manufacturer groupings attempting to gain an edge with their systems
and Hollywood all the time fighting to retain control. Conversely there are
DVD transport manufacturers trying to keep up with the trends so their deck
will play the most media variations.
At stake is $Ms or even $Bs of future royalties! This will run and run for
several years yet.
Perry Mitchell
Video Consultant
http://www.perrybits.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Lindau, Viimar
Ok, but can anyone please explain me in little more detail, what is the
difference between DVD-R(G) and DVD-R(A)???
I've been reading this thred for quite a long time but I don't exactly
understand what is going on :) Maybe the problem is that english is not my
first language or maybe I've missed some important info in earlier messages.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:56:39 +1000
From: "Wayne L Brown"
To:
Subject: JVC DVL 40
Message-ID:
I've purchased a firewire card and it came with software which initially had
problems with pixelating while playing and capturing video. The JVC help
desk in Australia gave me a fix that allows the video to display cleanly,
but when I halt the capture my work station does a memory dump and reboots.
I've tried the video studio and now video wave and the result is the same, I
can play video using the Microsoft Media player but not capture it using the
other products. Having a fire wire card is of very little help if I can't
capture the video.
Any suggestions help most appreciated.
Regards, Wayne.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:25:06 +0100
From: Roy Esmonde
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Adobe Premiere 6.0 puzzle
Message-ID: <9otqltocqhe43142odso817teedvibrpig@4ax.com>
Thanks John,
You're right. I should have mentined offline in the original post.
Thanks for your help.
Roy
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:02:10 -0400, you wrote:
>At 12:10 AM 7/23/01 -0700, you wrote:
>>That's an attractive way to go. But I'm working in offline mode on
>>this edit. Will the new movie I create with your method reference to
>>the originals when I batch recapture for the final online?
>
>No, it won't. Your only options are IMPORT PROJECT or virtual clips.
>
>You did not mention you were working in offline mode in the original post;
>tho' it's a small thing, it's good to mention any pertinent details like
>this in your query, esp since offline editing is in the minority here --
>
>John Jackman
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:33:19 -0400
From: jmerser
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Promax RTMAX card due out soon?
Message-ID:
Hey Charles,
Any idea when you'll be delivering The Promax realtime card for FPC?
Can you also tell us about it's capabilities vs. the RTMAC card?
thanks,
jmerser
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:04:36 -0600
From: James Reidenbaugh
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: still image size
Message-ID: <3B5D8E84.905C2BFC@familydocumentaries.com>
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If you are working in DV NTSC, use 720 x 480. Make sure your premiere
project settings match this.
Frank Lav wrote:
> Hello to all, I'm planning to make a slide show to incorporate into a
> Premiere project. What size should the stills be that they aren't
> deformed or blurred?Thank youfranklav@bellatlantic.net
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If you are working in DV NTSC, use 720 x 480. Make sure your premiere project settings match this.
Frank Lav wrote:
Hello to all, I'm planning to make a slide show to incorporate into a Premiere project. What size should the stills be that they aren't deformed or blurred?Thank youfranklav@bellatlantic.net
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:07:04 +0200
From: Leszek Szczech
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: Pismo 500 for DV?
Message-ID: <3B5D8F18.1D2F7C83@it.pl>
hi All,
i have a chance to buy a cheap used G3 Pismo, but my main concern is its FW
port speed. is it fast enough not to drop frames? (i'll initially use
iMovie only, later FCP). should i have any other concerns?
TIA,
leszek
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:19:15 -0400
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: still image size
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010724121321.0362a830@mail.verizon.net>
Actually, if you're working on a PC you may want to compose and process the
pictures at 640X480 (or a multiple) so that they look correct. You can then
batch resize them all to 720X480 before sending them to Premiere or just
let Premiere's 'optimize stills' take care of it for you.
The biggest introduction of blurring isn't the resizing - in fact for NTSC
you _want_ to avoid sharp edges - but it's the pictures themselves. Even a
soft focus picture that looks good to the naked eye will look WAY out of
focus when blown up and displayed on a large TV.
At 11:04 AM 7/24/2001, you wrote:
>If you are working in DV NTSC, use 720 x 480. Make sure your premiere
>project settings match this.
>
>Frank Lav wrote:
>>Hello to all, I'm planning to make a slide show to incorporate into a
>>Premiere project. What size should the stills be that they aren't
>>deformed or blurred?Thank youfranklav@bellatlantic.net
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:15:10 -0700
From: "Lone Orchard Productions"
To:
Subject: RE: "Disguising" voices
Message-ID:
Mostly, on programs I have seen it seems they just lower the pitch so that
it is intelligible and then back off a click. I have even seen it where they
will add subtitles if it is not easily understood.
Of course I have also seen shows where the "shadow" on the subject looks
pretty bright to me and if it was my neighbor, I would surely recognize
them.
Derek
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:47:45 -0400
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: OT..video stills to charicature animation??
Message-ID: <3B5DA6B1.6E67F89B@golden.net>
thanks to all who posted on the celebration question.
Have a challenge coming up...couple of short animation clips for a
corporate job...they are hot to trot for some comedy..so..we are trying
several things:
1.hiring a charicature artist to draw simple line drawings for possible
adaption to animation
2. using a combination of emboss/find edges in Phtoshop to come to a
realistic charicature of a headshot
anyone ever done this?any suggestions? what worked for you?
thanks..andrew
--
Andrew Kohl
http://www.kohlproductions.com/
Corporate Video / Documentary TV / 3D Animation / Webdesign
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:42:18 +0200
From: "Fox"
To:
Subject: RE: still image size
Message-ID:
You may see the picture flickering on TV, in that case you care try to use
Photoshop deinterlacing filter when you resize the image.
And soften a little image may not appear as blurr and can fix the flickering
as well.
Fox
http://www.labdv.com/en/index.htm
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:02:51 +0100
From: Andy Stevens
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: "Disguising" voices
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010724100127.00aea6b0@mail.ulti-media.com>
At 03:11 AM 7/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all --
>
>I'm working on a project that involves some interviews with people, and
>due to confidentiality reasons, it's necessary to mask their faces and
>their voices (make it sound robotic, or synthesized), like they do on
>news/police shows, etc.
>
>I can handle the masking part with Premiere's built in effects easily
>enough, but does anyone have some suggestions of how I might accomplish it
>in audio? I have Cool Edit Pro, and have played around with bandpass
>filters, etc, but I've found it either usually makes the voice illegible,
>or otherwise doesn't too a good enough job of altering the "unique"
>characteristics.
In Cool Edit Pro, use the time pitch change. Keep the timing the same but
just change the pitch.
Andy
>Does anyone have a favorite method of doing this? I know this isn't a
>strictly video-related question, but well, it seems that the discussions
>on this list tend to drift at times, so I figure I'd give it a shot. :)
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>--
>Mark Wang
>mwang@cs.stanford.edu
>http://www.markwang.com/
>AIM: markwang99
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:21:13 +0100
From: "Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: OT..video stills to charicature animation??
Message-ID:
See if you can find a copy of 'Morph v2.5'(it is long gone but was quite
popular). It has this real fun mode where you can morph a portrait to
emphasise all the facial elements that are different from a 'standard' face
(that you choose) so producing a caricature that can be as cruel as you care
to dial up! You can then process it (if required) to look more hand drawn.
Perry
-----Original Message-----
From: andrew kohl
Have a challenge coming up...couple of short animation clips for a
corporate job...they are hot to trot for some comedy..so..we are trying
several things:
1.hiring a charicature artist to draw simple line drawings for possible
adaption to animation
2. using a combination of emboss/find edges in Phtoshop to come to a
realistic charicature of a headshot
anyone ever done this?any suggestions? what worked for you?
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:54:55 -0500
From: "Zini, Gerald"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: dreaming of a fully video compatible world...
Message-ID:
Hi all
coming in the United States for the first time, I decided to buy
myself a digital camcorder to shoot what I probably won't see
again until a long time: Chicago, which I'll leave for France in
one week.
Unaware of the video compatibility issues between Europe and
the United States, I bought 2 months ago the NTSC version
(original version since Japan video devices complies to NTSC)
of the SONY DCR-PC110. Since I won't be able to look at the
video on my French TV (which complies with PAL and not
NTSC), I have to sell my 2 month-old SONY PC110 (NTSC).
My price is $1,500 (I bought it $1,670 and SONY sells it for
$1,850)
If interested, you can contact me at: gzini@anl.gov
Gerald.
PS: When will we stop producing interlaced displaying video
and all have progressive scan TVs???
PPS: However, happy with the quality (I am just an occasional
video shooter) I bought one week ago a PC110E, which is the
PAL version of this camcorder.
This version is not as good because SONY kept the LCD
screen from the NTSC version and which doesn't handle well
enough the 576 lines of the DV PAL signal (compared to the
480 lines of the DV NTSC) producing some visual vibrations
of the overdrawn signs like the battery, or the displayed time.
This does not affect the quality of the video itself, which is
good, but just the quality of the 'displayed reality' on the LCD
screen.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:14:17 +0200
From: "Fox"
To:
Subject: RE: dreaming of a fully video compatible world...
Message-ID:
Here in France, the TV sets are sold PAL/NTSC !!!
The tuner is PAL only but the video inputs are PAL/NTSC so we can watch Zone
1 DVD ;-)))
Have a look at Darty shop: http://www=2Edarty=2Ecom/ to see features and pri=
ces
(sur I'm talking about $1000+ TV set)=2E
And at FNAC (the other major distributor) http://www=2Efnac=2Ecom/ and its
testings book (PDF) from
http://www=2Efnac=2Enet/telecharg/pdf_20001/16_9_ete2001=2Epdf for 16/9 and
http://www=2Efnac=2Enet/telecharg/pdf_20001/4_3_ete2001=2Epdf for 4/3=2E
BTW, I don't know about the DCR-PC110 if it's a good bargain or not and how
are the dvcam price in the US vs=2E France=2E So may be a good idea to sell =
it=2E
Here's the cam docu
http://www=2Efnac=2Enet/telecharg/pdf_20001/camescopes_ete2001=2Epdf
Hope this helps,
Fox
-----Message d'origine-----
De : dv-l-request@dvcentral=2Eorg [mailto:dv-l-request@dvcentral=2Eorg]De la
part de Zini, Gerald
Envoy=E9 : mardi 24 juillet 2001 19:55
=C0 : DV-L@dvcentral=2Eorg
Objet : dreaming of a fully video compatible world=2E=2E=2E
Hi all
coming in the United States for the first time, I decided to buy
myself a digital camcorder to shoot what I probably won't see
again until a long time: Chicago, which I'll leave for France in
one week=2E
Unaware of the video compatibility issues between Europe and
the United States, I bought 2 months ago the NTSC version
(original version since Japan video devices complies to NTSC)
of the SONY DCR-PC110=2E Since I won't be able to look at the
video on my French TV (which complies with PAL and not
NTSC), I have to sell my 2 month-old SONY PC110 (NTSC)=2E
My price is $1,500 (I bought it $1,670 and SONY sells it for
$1,850)
If interested, you can contact me at: gzini@anl=2Egov
Gerald=2E
PS: When will we stop producing interlaced displaying video
and all have progressive scan TVs???
PPS: However, happy with the quality (I am just an occasional
video shooter) I bought one week ago a PC110E, which is the
PAL version of this camcorder=2E
This version is not as good because SONY kept the LCD
screen from the NTSC version and which doesn't handle well
enough the 576 lines of the DV PAL signal (compared to the
480 lines of the DV NTSC) producing some visual vibrations
of the overdrawn signs like the battery, or the displayed time=2E
This does not affect the quality of the video itself, which is
good, but just the quality of the 'displayed reality' on the LCD
screen=2E
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:32:06 -0600
From: Nathan White
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <744756312232D51190B000A0C94970A1029DD6@LYRA>
Even if your set on the Software on Permiere 6 I would stay completely away
from PC based workstations. I have had very mixed results with any
multimedia on this platform. I would highly recommend getting a G4 Mac, if
all you want to do is edit video. If you don't go with a mac you'll find
yourself becoming a PC repair technician. (Average Mac user spends 4 hours a
year troubleshooting while the average PC owner spends over 80 hours!!!! )
I personally prefer Final Cut Pro from apple for editing but 6 has some
really nice integration into their product line. There is a really good
article in Macworld comparing both software packages. Another note is Adobe
code typically runs faster and less buggy on the Mac platform. Adobe is pro
Mac!
I know you already decided on a PC based system, but I would hate to see
another poor soul taken to the dark side.
-----Original Message-----
From: mensa babe [mailto:mensababe@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:10 PM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: The slowest purchase on the planet
Hello to all, I'm embarrassed to admit that I still haven't made the
commitment to a NLE system, although I have decided to go with Premiere 6
for the software (it only took a year or two to decide) Oy vey. On the
positive side, I have presold my documentary to a broadcaster in Canada, so
it will be finished one of these days (now it has to be)
OK, so there was a system advertised at www.sigmawave.com (which is in
Canada) for a system that sounded good to me (I also have decided to stick
with the PC platform):
1400 MHz/512 MB/40GB/60 GB (4 hours) video drive/Matrox RT2500/G450 dual 32
MB/Sony 52X CD/NEC flat AS95F 19"/Win2000Pro/Inwin Midtower 300W/Asus
A7V133/Soundblaster Live/Adobe Premiere 6 ORT/DVdit LE/Inscriber
LE/DV+SVHS/MS optical mouse and keyboard
Price: $3,775 Canadian
I thought this sounded great, but my techy friend who is a professional
editor had these comments/questions:
I'm not sure, but I think the RT (real time) stuff
only applies to analog (SVHS) ins and outs and not to
DV, so it would be a needless expense for you. My
vote would be for a simpler computer... with way more
hard drive space, since you have so much footage. And
yes, you can do multiple work monitors without the
fancy matrox card. One note of caution: I seem to
remember Windows 2000 not being appropriate for
multimedia, since it can't keep sync. You may have to
install Win98 second edition... but these timing
errors may only affect the display, not your output,
since DV has the sound buried in the same signal.
Is this so? Thoughts?
as always,
Mensababe
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:46:24 -0700
From: "Mark Franklin - Media Magic"
To:
Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID:
What a lot of crap...
>Average Mac user spends 4 hours a year troubleshooting while the average PC
owner spends over 80 >>hours!!!! )
Is this your personal experience? You have both OS's and have documented
your time? Why do people assume that everything they read is true? and then
pass it on as "the truth"? This PC/Mac thing is worse then some religious
wars:-)
I personally prefer Final Cut Pro from apple for editing but 6 has some
really nice integration into their product line. There is a really good
article in Macworld comparing both software packages. Another note is Adobe
code typically runs faster and less buggy on the Mac platform. Adobe is pro
Mac!
I know you already decided on a PC based system, but I would hate to see
another poor soul taken to the dark side.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:03:18 -0700
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Pismo 500 for DV?
Message-ID:
At 5:07 PM +0200 7/24/01, Leszek Szczech wrote:
>hi All,
>
>i have a chance to buy a cheap used G3 Pismo, but my main concern is its FW
>port speed. is it fast enough not to drop frames? (i'll initially use
>iMovie only, later FCP). should i have any other concerns?
Yes, plenty fast enough. That machine was promoted as a portable
editing system when it came out.
It is extremely unlikely for the FireWire port to drop frames in any
case - most dropped frames happen later on, related to HD speed or
other OS activity disrupting it.
Do update to QT 5.0.2 if its not installed to get the faster and
higher-quality DV codec.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:29:27 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <000501c11476$f661b720$4423a8c0@dell420>
Nathan, since you're so keen on Macs, why don't you order her a G4 and send
her one? I'm sure she'll be happy with it and so will the rest of us DV-L's
bored with platform wars...
Say, while you're at it. I would a new Titanium Powerbook (fully loaded, of
course). I can send you my shipping address off-list.
;)
deputy stephen (good cop & still have my badge from Bertel - bad cop, he can
unsubscribe you)
PS. this post makes more sense if you check the archives under "deputy"...
www.xiveren.com
"But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to free your
heart."
-Homer Simpson
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:30:47 -0700
From: Louise Reichlin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Pismo 500 for running Director (slightly OT)
Message-ID:
I want to run a live multimedia performance from my Pismo 500 and
there are 3 places where when the visual image is a little more
complex, the music hiccups for a brief nanosecond. I seem to remember
someone mentioning virtual memory is not a good idea for editing on
this machine, and am wondering if tat turning it off would solve
this. Or more memory? It runs on a Pentium ok, but since i own the
mac and it is compact I would prefer to use it. Suggestions?
Louise
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:03:37 -0400
From: Jennie Horn
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: OT: Product placement in short films
Message-ID:
I'm shooting a dv film next month and there is a scene that requires
a lot of electronics, piles of them, like one each: a vcr, dvd
player, huge tv, stereo, computer, speakers, etc etc. It's a
no-budget student film.
Question: Does anyone know how common or likely it is to get
manufacturer sponsorship on such projects, even if it's just the loan
of the products? Maybe Jan knows, or one of you has tried to get
such support in the past.
If you'd like to respond off-list, I would appreciate it greatly!
Thanks,
Jennie Horn
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:02:51 -0600
From: Nathan White
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <744756312232D51190B000A0C94970A1029DD7@LYRA>
Is this your personal experience? You have both OS's and have documented
your time? Why do people assume that everything they read is true? and then
pass it on as "the truth"? This PC/Mac thing is worse then some religious
wars:-)
As a matter of fact my time is documented, if you want more details I am
more then willing to share. I pay my bills working for a company that
develops custom software solutions, my responsiblities are to maintain the
network and automate the processes for the custom production work we get in.
The only environment my company works in is Windows. I have earned my little
worthless piece of paper that gives me MCSE status but I still enjoy the
computing freedom of a mac! The simple fact is Macs work, I need not worry
about registry diving or which service pack introduces which bug. With a Mac
I simple go to work, if I do run into a problem on the Mac end it is usally
so trivial because the whole design of the GUi makes sense and is very easy
for new and upcoming operators to get their brains around. Microsoft has
designed their OS from pieces of scraps laying around. There are still Win
3.1 artifacts in the current releases of Windows, this structuring of
software leads to it's inability to stand up to rigours of daily use. The
only time a PC could be considered sound is if you configure it for one
specific task and leave it as such. However, I have yet to run into a person
that this is such the case.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:16:29 -0400
From:
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <20010724201629.KJPQ6289.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]>
Ok, my 2 cents then ill shut up. I work on both platforms here at work, A dual G4 and an Intel workstation. Just for the record Ive never had a problem with my Win2k PC machine. However, on the Mac side, Id like to know who thought up the idea of having to drag your disk's to the trash can to eject it. doesn't make much sence to me.
Tom
>
> From: Nathan White
> Date: 2001/07/24 Tue PM 02:02:51 EDT
> To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
> Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
>
>
> Is this your personal experience? You have both OS's and have documented
> your time? Why do people assume that everything they read is true? and then
> pass it on as "the truth"? This PC/Mac thing is worse then some religious
> wars:-)
>
> As a matter of fact my time is documented, if you want more details I am
> more then willing to share. I pay my bills working for a company that
> develops custom software solutions, my responsiblities are to maintain the
> network and automate the processes for the custom production work we get in.
> The only environment my company works in is Windows. I have earned my little
> worthless piece of paper that gives me MCSE status but I still enjoy the
> computing freedom of a mac! The simple fact is Macs work, I need not worry
> about registry diving or which service pack introduces which bug. With a Mac
> I simple go to work, if I do run into a problem on the Mac end it is usally
> so trivial because the whole design of the GUi makes sense and is very easy
> for new and upcoming operators to get their brains around. Microsoft has
> designed their OS from pieces of scraps laying around. There are still Win
> 3.1 artifacts in the current releases of Windows, this structuring of
> software leads to it's inability to stand up to rigours of daily use. The
> only time a PC could be considered sound is if you configure it for one
> specific task and leave it as such. However, I have yet to run into a person
> that this is such the case.
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:17:24 -0700
From: "Clesson Duke"
To:
Subject: Re: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <00ca01c1147d$a7323ec0$4601a8c0@dev01>
Spoken like a true Mac-Head ;-)
Is all this why your company... (and 90% of all corporations around the
world) standardize on Windows-based systems for their corporate
infrastructure -- and *not* on Macs? Those that don't use Sun or IBM
AS-400s.
Pullleeeezzzzzeeeee!
-
Clesson Duke
San Diego, CA USA
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:25:43 -0400
From: jmerser
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID:
>Ok, my 2 cents then ill shut up. I work on both platforms here at
>work, A dual G4 and an Intel workstation. Just for the record Ive
>never had a problem with my Win2k PC machine. However, on the Mac
>side, Id like to know who thought up the idea of having to drag your
>disk's to the trash can to eject it. doesn't make much sence to me.
>
Have you tried command Y?
jmerser
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:11:47 -0700
From: Evan Robinson
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Pismo 500 for DV?
Message-ID:
I use a 500 Mhz Pismo and have had no trouble capturing to the
internal drive. When capturing to an external La Cie drive I had to
carefully configure a location (removing all unnecessary extensions)
and make sure the network cable was removed before I could capture
without a lot of lost frames. I haven't tested since I added 512M of
RAM to see if it's less sensitive.
But it does work. Oh, and I had to replace one Firewire cable ;-)
I've captured using Premiere 6 and iMovie 2, but not FCP (yet).
Evan
At 5:07 PM +0200 on 2001.07.24, Leszek Szczech wrote about "Pismo 500 for DV?":
>hi All,
>
>i have a chance to buy a cheap used G3 Pismo, but my main concern is its FW
>port speed. is it fast enough not to drop frames? (i'll initially use
>iMovie only, later FCP). should i have any other concerns?
>
>TIA,
>
>leszek
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:39:56 -0400
From:
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <20010724203956.KUMW6289.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]>
That wasn't my point. My point is that it just seems strange that in order to get your disk and data safely out of the computer, you put in in the one place you wouldn't. The trash can.
I know that I can get my disk either way.. But someone who isn't used to a Mac may not know about command Y
>
> From: jmerser
> Date: 2001/07/24 Tue PM 04:25:43 EDT
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
>
> >Ok, my 2 cents then ill shut up. I work on both platforms here at
> >work, A dual G4 and an Intel workstation. Just for the record Ive
> >never had a problem with my Win2k PC machine. However, on the Mac
> >side, Id like to know who thought up the idea of having to drag your
> >disk's to the trash can to eject it. doesn't make much sence to me.
> >
>
> Have you tried command Y?
>
> jmerser
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:46:17 -0700
From: "Mike Falconer"
To:
Subject: Re: Product placement in short films
Message-ID: <000b01c11481$b02620b0$db12693f@c381851g>
The sponsors will concern themselves with how and where the film will be
distributed and then most importantly, how many heartbeats will view it.
Big audience...they're interested.
Small audience...much less interested (unless they specifically want
identity within the independent film maker industry.
Mike Falconer
Oregon Media Services
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennie Horn"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:03 PM
Subject: OT: Product placement in short films
> I'm shooting a dv film next month and there is a scene that requires
> a lot of electronics, piles of them, like one each: a vcr, dvd
> player, huge tv, stereo, computer, speakers, etc etc. It's a
> no-budget student film.
>
> Question: Does anyone know how common or likely it is to get
> manufacturer sponsorship on such projects, even if it's just the loan
> of the products? Maybe Jan knows, or one of you has tried to get
> such support in the past.
>
> If you'd like to respond off-list, I would appreciate it greatly!
>
> Thanks,
> Jennie Horn
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:51:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rik Ahlberg
To:
Subject: Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 spyrison@bellsouth.net wrote:
> That wasn't my point. My point is that it just seems strange that in
> order to get your disk and data safely out of the computer, you put in
> in the one place you wouldn't. The trash can.
>
> I know that I can get my disk either way.. But someone who isn't used
> to a Mac may not know about command Y
There are many much stranger things in Windows than the few peculiar
interface things in the Mac (the C drive? What human would name a drive
C?). Regardless, people use both.
I use FCP 2 on the Mac and Premiere 6 on Win2K. I prefer FCP because it's
faster, it previews my transitions, and I find it easier to do the basics
using the keyboard. I find Premiere crashes a lot (unexpectedly, it just
vanishes at least once a day). FCP also has a much better interface for
logging and capturing shots.
Anyway, both work. Since I have the luxury of choice, I use the Mac.
Let's stop the platform war and get back to DV.
-Rik
--
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to imitate empiric failure and ignore empiric success." -Jane Jacobs
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:11:06 -0500
From: Danny Grizzle
To:
Subject: Re: OT: Product placement in short films
Message-ID:
on 7/24/01 3:03 PM, Jennie Horn at jenhorn@jenhorn.com wrote:
> I'm shooting a dv film next month and there is a scene that requires
> a lot of electronics, piles of them, like one each: a vcr, dvd
> player, huge tv, stereo, computer, speakers, etc etc.
> Question: Does anyone know how common or likely it is to get
> manufacturer sponsorship on such projects, even if it's just the loan
> of the products?
> It's a no-budget student film.
If you get cooperation on something like this, it will be motivated by a
personal relationship, not a business decision.
A related example: from one perspective, both the ad in the back of your
high school yearbook and a full page spread in Time Magazine are
"advertising".
But from the perspective of an advertising professional, the high school
yearbook is a donation. Just check how many yearbook ads feature a business
owned by a student's family.
The difference is audience, and understanding your audience is a key concept
of filmmaking. Feature films can talk to manufacturers about product
placement, because a feature film has some prospect of delivering an
audience measured in millions. Marketing professionals evaluate audience in
terms of cost per thousand, typically measured in pennies. Just to give you
some parameters on this, go with a real-world number from my experience
(print, not film, however): 12 cents per thousand.
For every 1,000 viewers your film/video can deliver, think in terms of a
monetary value of 12 cents for your marketing partner. By this standard,
your film would need a targeted audience of 10,000 viewers to justify $1.20
worth of effort by a manufacturer. If your project will reach an audience of
100,000, then you might be able to justify $12.00 worth of effort.
Targeted advertising is important. Factors include the demographic spectrum:
age, income, sex, race, geography. For instance, if you ask a local mom &
pop business with one location to support something, then you must cost
justify the benefit based on numbers limited to only your audience in their
local trade area. It will not matter if 40,000,000 people in India view your
film if your sponsor is a brick-and-mortar operation in Boondock, Iowa.
Sorry to go so long, but one of my clients is a major log home company. I
got an e-mail a few minutes ago from a woman in Missouri asking if we would
be interested in building her dream house for free if in return she would be
willing to make it available as a show home...
It never hurts to ask, but understand what it is you are asking, with enough
business sense to know the difference between a donation and true product
placement. I've been on both sides of the table with these type
conversations, and I would be much more likely to help a student filmmaker
who was completely realistic and candid. The way these things are proposed
reflects on your personal credibility.
BTW - when you ask for favors like this, keep in mind the old saying, "Three
moves equals a fire." And consider that you are proposing moving expensive
property twice - once to your location, and again to return it. Theft is a
real exposure. We've all heard remarks about a "responsible" young man or
woman. In the real world, "responsible" means that you are able to either
return borrowed items in *perfect* condition, or else pay for them.
This all adds up to serious liability, even when someone wants to help you.
Danny Grizzle
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:16:47 -0500
From: Danny Grizzle
To:
Subject: Re: Pismo 500 for DV?
Message-ID:
on 7/24/01 12:11 PM, Evan Robinson at erobinson@starband.net wrote:
> I use a 500 Mhz Pismo and have had no trouble capturing to the
> internal drive. When capturing to an external La Cie drive I had to
> carefully configure a location (removing all unnecessary extensions)
> and make sure the network cable was removed before I could capture
> without a lot of lost frames. I haven't tested since I added 512M of
> RAM to see if it's less sensitive.
I've got 384 MB RAM in my 500MHz Powerbook, and I have experienced
occasional dropped frames when capturing DVCAM from a DSR-11 to an external
ProMAX/LaCie 75 GB Firewire drive. These were not frequent enough to be
insurmountable - I should experiment more with a special limited-extensions
configuration/cable combinations.
Danny Grizzle
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:21:01 -0700
From: "Robert MacCaul"
To: "DV-L"
Subject: Attend the After Effects West Conference
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to the daily workshops, there will be a jobs and networking night, a meeting
with the After Effects team and more.
Check out the following link and register today!
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:40:54 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: OT: Product placement in short films
Message-ID:
on 7/25/01 1:11 AM, Danny Grizzle at danny@mogulhost.com wrote:
> on 7/24/01 3:03 PM, Jennie Horn at jenhorn@jenhorn.com wrote:
>
>> I'm shooting a dv film next month and there is a scene that requires
>> a lot of electronics, piles of them, like one each: a vcr, dvd
>> player, huge tv, stereo, computer, speakers, etc etc.
>
>> Question: Does anyone know how common or likely it is to get
>> manufacturer sponsorship on such projects, even if it's just the loan
>> of the products?
>
>> It's a no-budget student film.
>
> If you get cooperation on something like this, it will be motivated by a
> personal relationship, not a business decision.
>
> A related example: from one perspective, both the ad in the back of your
> high school yearbook and a full page spread in Time Magazine are
> "advertising".
>
> But from the perspective of an advertising professional, the high school
> yearbook is a donation. Just check how many yearbook ads feature a business
> owned by a student's family.
>
> The difference is audience, and understanding your audience is a key concept
> of filmmaking. Feature films can talk to manufacturers about product
> placement, because a feature film has some prospect of delivering an
> audience measured in millions. Marketing professionals evaluate audience in
> terms of cost per thousand, typically measured in pennies. Just to give you
> some parameters on this, go with a real-world number from my experience
> (print, not film, however): 12 cents per thousand.
>
> For every 1,000 viewers your film/video can deliver, think in terms of a
> monetary value of 12 cents for your marketing partner. By this standard,
> your film would need a targeted audience of 10,000 viewers to justify $1.20
> worth of effort by a manufacturer. If your project will reach an audience of
> 100,000, then you might be able to justify $12.00 worth of effort.
>
> Targeted advertising is important. Factors include the demographic spectrum:
> age, income, sex, race, geography. For instance, if you ask a local mom &
> pop business with one location to support something, then you must cost
> justify the benefit based on numbers limited to only your audience in their
> local trade area. It will not matter if 40,000,000 people in India view your
> film if your sponsor is a brick-and-mortar operation in Boondock, Iowa.
>
> Sorry to go so long, but one of my clients is a major log home company. I
> got an e-mail a few minutes ago from a woman in Missouri asking if we would
> be interested in building her dream house for free if in return she would be
> willing to make it available as a show home...
>
> It never hurts to ask, but understand what it is you are asking, with enough
> business sense to know the difference between a donation and true product
> placement. I've been on both sides of the table with these type
> conversations, and I would be much more likely to help a student filmmaker
> who was completely realistic and candid. The way these things are proposed
> reflects on your personal credibility.
>
> BTW - when you ask for favors like this, keep in mind the old saying, "Three
> moves equals a fire." And consider that you are proposing moving expensive
> property twice - once to your location, and again to return it. Theft is a
> real exposure. We've all heard remarks about a "responsible" young man or
> woman. In the real world, "responsible" means that you are able to either
> return borrowed items in *perfect* condition, or else pay for them.
>
> This all adds up to serious liability, even when someone wants to help you.
>
> Danny Grizzle
>
>
>
>
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Hello: Go to you college libruary and look up the Grantmenship Center.
This will start you on the correct path. Their are many student grants
available if you have a script and if you know what your final audience
could passible be. For example you may want to go to a local TV station and
to see if their might want to air your finished project. If you get a
letter from them then what you are asking for can possible be accomplished.
Equipment is to general a question. Even a camera is two general a
question. You need to sit down and list all the equipment that you have so
the grant agency knows that you have some and you do not need all. All is
generally out of the question unless you have a track record. Also when you
do get a grant make sure that you give full credit to everyone and that
means everyone so that you do not get any negative response for your next
project. Last but no least just try and try again and again and again and
then you will win. Good luck Tughollow
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:35:25 +0100
From: Andy Stevens
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010724140354.00aabec0@mail.ulti-media.com>
At 12:32 PM 7/24/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Even if your set on the Software on Permiere 6 I would stay completely away
>from PC based workstations. I have had very mixed results with any
>multimedia on this platform. I would highly recommend getting a G4 Mac, if
>all you want to do is edit video. If you don't go with a mac you'll find
>yourself becoming a PC repair technician. (Average Mac user spends 4 hours a
>year troubleshooting while the average PC owner spends over 80 hours!!!! )
Let's see...
What could be the problem....
Improperly set up equipment and peripherals?
Software that promises everything and produces less?
Systems Interrogator with less than enough knowledge and ability?
Or could it be the end user?
Before you make blanket statements like this you should precede them with
qualifiers like, 'IMHO' or, "It has been my experience.", because what is
unique to you is not unique to the rest of the world.
There are untold thousands of PC's performing multimedia work day in and
day out without problems. There are some who have nothing but problems.
There are untold numbers of Mac's performing multimedia in the same manner
and a percentage of these are beseeched with problems.
In your honest opinion, you may belive the MAC platform to be the ultimate
answer. You may make an honest recommendation to this effect.
There are a limited few "Ultimate Answers'" in this world and even those
are being debated.
FYI, I have three PC based solutions and one 12 year old Amiga which work
flawlessly 24 x 7. I don't have a MAC, yet, but I'll bet it would do the same.
IMHO,
Andy Stevens
Ulti-Media Productions
http://www.ulti-media.com
DV Master Pro & Speed Razor Users Forum
http://www.ulti-media.com/dvmaster_pro.htm
"Ghostrider" Vulcan Nomad 1500 VROC 2651
http://www.ulti-media.com/2651.htm
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:33:21 -0700
From: Evan Robinson
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Pismo 500 for DV?
Message-ID:
At 4:16 PM -0500 on 2001.07.24, Danny Grizzle wrote about "Re: Pismo
500 for DV?":
>on 7/24/01 12:11 PM, Evan Robinson at erobinson@starband.net wrote:
>
>> I use a 500 Mhz Pismo and have had no trouble capturing to the
>> internal drive. When capturing to an external La Cie drive I had to
>> carefully configure a location (removing all unnecessary extensions)
>> and make sure the network cable was removed before I could capture
>> without a lot of lost frames. I haven't tested since I added 512M of
>> RAM to see if it's less sensitive.
>
>
>I've got 384 MB RAM in my 500MHz Powerbook, and I have experienced
>occasional dropped frames when capturing DVCAM from a DSR-11 to an external
>ProMAX/LaCie 75 GB Firewire drive. These were not frequent enough to be
>insurmountable - I should experiment more with a special limited-extensions
>configuration/cable combinations.
I should point out that Premiere 6 ALWAYS reports 2 dropped frames at
the beginning of any capture on my system. I consider this to be a
bogus report and ignore it. If there are really dropped frames
there will be more.
YMMV,
Evan
Today's Oxymoron:
Peace force
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:02:47 +0200
From: "Tal Hart \(TelNET\)"
To:
Subject: Steve - i want your 600Mhz Processor
Message-ID: <053101c11494$c1d19de0$64ba39d5@a9l0d9>
Steve,
sorry you didnt left your Email address in the post....
how much do u want for the processor,
and is it 512K ?
tal.
tal@telnet.co.il
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:24:32 -0500
From: Danny Grizzle
To: DV-L List
Subject: DV as offline for HD
Message-ID:
I'm interested in shooting HD, downsampling to DVCAM for offline in Final
Cut Pro, then conforming the HD master.
I can foresee building HD elements in Photoshop and After Effects for final
compositing in the HD online session.
Anyone have any practical experience?
Thanks,
Danny Grizzle
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:39:59 -0400
From: "L. Glenn Ferguson"
To:
Subject: Re: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <007701c11491$92e0bd20$1b01a8c0@nothinbut.net>
> I use FCP 2 on the Mac and Premiere 6 on Win2K. I prefer FCP because it's
> faster, it previews my transitions, and I find it easier to do the basics
> using the keyboard. I find Premiere crashes a lot (unexpectedly, it just
> vanishes at least once a day). FCP also has a much better interface for
> logging and capturing shots.
>
> Anyway, both work. Since I have the luxury of choice, I use the Mac.
>
> Let's stop the platform war and get back to DV.
>
> -Rik
You ad to the platform war, and then say stop it? Sounds self serving and
hypocritical to me.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Al Warren
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Composing for Film or Video
Message-ID: <20010724225202.96513.qmail@web11703.mail.yahoo.com>
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I realize this is a DV list but I thought anyone who is editing may find this of interest. Please feel free to tell me I'm at the very wrong place. I am looking to put together a bibliography of
How to Compose Scores for Film or Video.
Any favorites out there?
Thanks, A
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How to Compose Scores for Film or Video.
Any favorites out there?
Thanks, A
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:03:14 -0700
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID:
At 11:10 PM +0000 7/23/01, mensa babe wrote:
>Hello to all, I'm embarrassed to admit that I still haven't made the
>commitment to a NLE system, although I have decided to go with
>Premiere 6 for the software (it only took a year or two to decide)
>Oy vey. On the positive side, I have presold my documentary to a
>broadcaster in Canada, so it will be finished one of these days (now
>it has to be)
If you don't need it right away, delaying purchase is usually a smart
move, as computer hardware almost always gets cheaper over time. At
the moment RAM is remarkably cheap.
>OK, so there was a system advertised at www.sigmawave.com (which is
>in Canada) for a system that sounded good to me (I also have decided
>to stick with the PC platform):
>
>1400 MHz/512 MB/40GB/60 GB (4 hours) video drive/Matrox RT2500/G450
>dual 32 MB/Sony 52X CD/NEC flat AS95F 19"/Win2000Pro/Inwin Midtower
>300W/Asus A7V133/Soundblaster Live/Adobe Premiere 6 ORT/DVdit
>LE/Inscriber LE/DV+SVHS/MS optical mouse and keyboard
>
>Price: $3,775 Canadian
I would suggest you comparison shop with Mac systems too. As Apple
just updated the product line you'll find deals that are about that
price point
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:13:25 -0400
From: Bertel Schmitt
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: NOTAC: General Virus Alert
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010724200213.038ee100@mail.dvcentral.org>
Notice To All Correspondents:
There is a large and growing number of instances of W32/SirCam@MM virii
around. Currently, I receive between 3 and 5 per day. The last I received
was from, the sales dept. of a reputable company. According to McAfee,
"This is a HIGH RISK VIRUS FOR CONSUMERS. The infected email can come from
addresses that you recognize."
The subject varies.
The body goes like this (although it also varies):
"Hi! How are you?
I send you this file in order to have your advice
or: I hope you can help me with this file that I send
or: I hope you like the file that I send you
or: This is the file with the information that you ask for "
See you later. Thanks
Attached is a file with changing filename.
Recommendation:
DO NOT EXECUTE the file.
Get the latest virus signature updates, McAfee ActiveShield for instance
detects it as it comes in.
NOTICE: DV-L members who distribute virii are immediately quarantined
(read: unsubscribed) to stop the disease from spreading.
I usually don't make a lot of noise about a virus, but this appears to be a
nasty and rampant one.
DB. DV-L Center of Disease Control.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:37:10 -0600
From: "Richard H. Heeren"
To: "DV-L Organization"
Subject: Canopus Corporation's GREAT Tech Support Rocks!
Message-ID:
I just had such a pleasant experience with Canopus Corporation's tech
support that I felt compelled to share it. I had a problem with the
Canopus DV File Converter, which converts DV files back and forth
between Microsoft DV and Canopus DV file formats. I posted my problem on
the Canopus User Forum only yesterday. I received immediate attention to
my DV File Converter problem by none other than Ove Bjelke-Holtermann,
Director of Engineering, Canopus Corporation, after he read my original
post on the forum. I emailed him a sample Microsoft DV file exhibiting
the problem as he requested. It was determined that the problem had to
do with the "type" of Microsoft DV file. The program creating these
Microsoft DV files called them "Type One" and "Type Two
(VFW)(Reccommended)" files. The Canopus DV File Converter program had
problems with the "Type Two..." files. Ove emailed me a new maintenance
release or version of the DV File Converter program today and everything
works great now for BOTH Microsoft DV file versions! LET ME SAY THIS IS
WHAT I CALL REALLY GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE!!! Having the Canopus Director
of Engineering take personal attention to my problem and getting a fix
in one day was such a pleasant surprise for me, compared to what I have
gone through with other company's software bugs. WAY TO GO CANOPUS
CORPORATION and GIVE OVE A RAISE!!!
Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:55:40 -0400
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <3B5E271C.B158AF8F@golden.net>
We just bought a Canopus Storm system from them..they were very
good...We got a P111 dual 1gig processor, 1 gig of ram, 40 gig sys drive
and 2 x 60 gig a/video drives...system runs like a charm....we work it
firwired into our L1, JVC DV/svhs deck and all seems fine..tax and all
we paid $5800 and change(CANadian)..
best of luck..they are a matrox gold dealer being right in montreal..and
their prices are very good..right next door to the concordia
university..
cheers..andrew
Kevin Marks wrote:
>
> At 11:10 PM +0000 7/23/01, mensa babe wrote:
> >Hello to all, I'm embarrassed to admit that I still haven't made the
> >commitment to a NLE system, although I have decided to go with
> >Premiere 6 for the software (it only took a year or two to decide)
> >Oy vey. On the positive side, I have presold my documentary to a
> >broadcaster in Canada, so it will be finished one of these days (now
> >it has to be)
>
> If you don't need it right away, delaying purchase is usually a smart
> move, as computer hardware almost always gets cheaper over time. At
> the moment RAM is remarkably cheap.
>
> >OK, so there was a system advertised at www.sigmawave.com (which is
> >in Canada) for a system that sounded good to me (I also have decided
> >to stick with the PC platform):
> >
> >1400 MHz/512 MB/40GB/60 GB (4 hours) video drive/Matrox RT2500/G450
> >dual 32 MB/Sony 52X CD/NEC flat AS95F 19"/Win2000Pro/Inwin Midtower
> >300W/Asus A7V133/Soundblaster Live/Adobe Premiere 6 ORT/DVdit
> >LE/Inscriber LE/DV+SVHS/MS optical mouse and keyboard
> >
> >Price: $3,775 Canadian
>
> I would suggest you comparison shop with Mac systems too. As Apple
> just updated the product line you'll find deals that are about that
> price point
> -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
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--
Andrew Kohl
http://www.kohlproductions.com/
Corporate Video / Documentary TV / 3D Animation / Webdesign
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:01:01 -0700
From: "Justus J. Schlichting"
To:
Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <200107250204.WAA05543@mcfeely.concentric.net>
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:02:51 -0600, Nathan wrote:
.[snip snip various flamebait]..
>The only time a PC could be considered sound is if you configure=
it
>for one specific task and leave it as such. However, I have yet=
to
run into
>a person that this is such the case.
Well, now you have.
-- Justus J. Schlichting, justus-j@deltanet.com on 07/24/2001
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:06:30 -0500
From: "Stacy"
To:
Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID:
here's one more!
-----Original Message-----
From: Justus J. Schlichting [mailto:justus-j@deltanet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:01 PM
To: dv-l@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: The slowest purchase on the planet
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:02:51 -0600, Nathan wrote:
.[snip snip various flamebait]..
>The only time a PC could be considered sound is if you configure it
>for one specific task and leave it as such. However, I have yet to
run into
>a person that this is such the case.
Well, now you have.
-- Justus J. Schlichting, justus-j@deltanet.com on 07/24/2001
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:28:32 -0700
From: "Clesson Duke"
To:
Subject: Re: The slowest purchase on the planet
Message-ID: <024a01c114b1$7fbe4f30$4601a8c0@dev01>
I have several one-app machines... and they all make sense.
1 - Voice Mail & Telephone System (Win 3.1) (Try that on a Mac)
2 - Dedicated fax/scanner/print spooler (Win98SE)
3 - Editing machine. (Win2K) Don't want anything to mess with it while it's
rendering.
4 - Central server - it's been just a server for months (Win2K)
5 - MS SQL Server 2000 (Win2K Server) (Macs run SQL?)
6 - Internet Server (Win2K Server & IIS) (Macs run internet servers?)
7 - Accounting System (Win98SE)
These are all on a Cat5 network using a 100Mbps Switch and Router/Firewall
to the internet.
Rarely is there a crash that wasn't caused by a human :-)
I blow up my development machine frequently because of what I do to it.
-
Clesson Duke
San Diego, CA USA
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:59:04 -0500
From: Kirk Lohse
To: DV List
Subject: Re: Canopus Corporation's GREAT Tech Support Rocks!
Message-ID:
Richard,
I too have had nothing but the MOST EXCELLENT experiences in my telephone
conversations this past year with Canopus' Tech Support. I had several DV
Raptor installation/upgrade questions and they walked me through my problem=
s
with courtesy and efficiency!
It almost makes me sorry I'm converting my classroom to Macs, and won't hav=
e
anymore PCs to call Canopus about=8A
=8ANAAAAHH!
Kirk Lohse
Texarkana College
=20
On 7/24/01 8:37 PM Richard H. Heeren RHeeren@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> I just had such a pleasant experience with Canopus Corporation's tech
> support that I felt compelled to share it. I had a problem with the
> Canopus DV File Converter, which converts DV files back and forth
> between Microsoft DV and Canopus DV file formats. I posted my problem on
> the Canopus User Forum only yesterday. I received immediate attention to
> my DV File Converter problem by none other than Ove Bjelke-Holtermann,
> Director of Engineering, Canopus Corporation, after he read my original
> post on the forum. I emailed him a sample Microsoft DV file exhibiting
> the problem as he requested. It was determined that the problem had to
> do with the "type" of Microsoft DV file. The program creating these
> Microsoft DV files called them "Type One" and "Type Two
> (VFW)(Reccommended)" files. The Canopus DV File Converter program had
> problems with the "Type Two..." files. Ove emailed me a new maintenance
> release or version of the DV File Converter program today and everything
> works great now for BOTH Microsoft DV file versions! LET ME SAY THIS IS
> WHAT I CALL REALLY GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE!!! Having the Canopus Director
> of Engineering take personal attention to my problem and getting a fix
> in one day was such a pleasant surprise for me, compared to what I have
> gone through with other company's software bugs. WAY TO GO CANOPUS
> CORPORATION and GIVE OVE A RAISE!!!
>=20
> Richard H. Heeren, Consultant
> Shoestring Studios--Video on a Wing and a Prayer!
>=20
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> http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
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>=20
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:59:37 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: AN NTSC TO PAL CONVERTER (WHERE TO PURCHASE)
Message-ID:
on 7/25/01 5:55 AM, andrew kohl at kohl@golden.net wrote:
> We just bought a Canopus Storm system from them..they were very
> good...We got a P111 dual 1gig processor, 1 gig of ram, 40 gig sys drive
> and 2 x 60 gig a/video drives...system runs like a charm....we work it
> firwired into our L1, JVC DV/svhs deck and all seems fine..tax and all
> we paid $5800 and change(CANadian)..
>
> best of luck..they are a matrox gold dealer being right in montreal..and
> their prices are very good..right next door to the concordia
> university..
>
> cheers..andrew
>
> Kevin Marks wrote:
>>
>> At 11:10 PM +0000 7/23/01, mensa babe wrote:
>>> Hello to all, I'm embarrassed to admit that I still haven't made the
>>> commitment to a NLE system, although I have decided to go with
>>> Premiere 6 for the software (it only took a year or two to decide)
>>> Oy vey. On the positive side, I have presold my documentary to a
>>> broadcaster in Canada, so it will be finished one of these days (now
>>> it has to be)
>>
>> If you don't need it right away, delaying purchase is usually a smart
>> move, as computer hardware almost always gets cheaper over time. At
>> the moment RAM is remarkably cheap.
>>
>>> OK, so there was a system advertised at www.sigmawave.com (which is
>>> in Canada) for a system that sounded good to me (I also have decided
>>> to stick with the PC platform):
>>>
>>> 1400 MHz/512 MB/40GB/60 GB (4 hours) video drive/Matrox RT2500/G450
>>> dual 32 MB/Sony 52X CD/NEC flat AS95F 19"/Win2000Pro/Inwin Midtower
>>> 300W/Asus A7V133/Soundblaster Live/Adobe Premiere 6 ORT/DVdit
>>> LE/Inscriber LE/DV+SVHS/MS optical mouse and keyboard
>>>
>>> Price: $3,775 Canadian
>>
>> I would suggest you comparison shop with Mac systems too. As Apple
>> just updated the product line you'll find deals that are about that
>> price point
>> -- (cut off when replying)-----------------
>> This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as
>> http://www.promax.com, http://www.videoguys.com,
>> http://www.panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members.
>>
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>> All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe:
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Hello: I do not know if the EMERSON CONVERTER IS AVAILABLE IN CANADA. I
THOUGHT I WOULD ASK YOU SINCE YOU ARE LOCATED IN A MAJOR CITY AND YOUR
WRITING IN THIS CHAT ROOM IS EXTREMELY CLEAR. IT IS A SIMPLE UNIT THAT I
USE AND DO NOT TRY TO SELL IT YET MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE USA TRAVEL TO
OTHER COUNTRIES. THIS UNIT IS MADE FOR EMERSON IN TAIWAN YET FOR THOSE
WHO TRAVEL AS I DO IT WORKS FOR ME. I HAVE USED IT IN EUROPE AND ASIA AND I
WILL BE GOING TO AUSTRALIA TO SHOW MY VIDEO'S AT THE INVITATION OF ABROGINAL
PEOPLE IN DARWIN. I KNOW THAT EVERYONE WILL NOT HAVE A VCR AND SCREEN THAT
WILL CONVERT SO THIS IS MY USUAL BACKUP. IT IS EXTREMELY INEXPENSIVE
COMPARED TO BETTER QUALITY UNITS YET IT DOES THE JOB FROM NTSC TO PAL B,G.D.
OR I. I PURCHASED MINE AT WALMAT AND TOLD PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND THEN AFTER A
MONTH THEY WERE GONE. IT COST ME 40.00 US DOLLARS THEIR YET I KNOW IT
NORMALLY SELLS FOR DOUBLE THAT PRICE. I DO NOT KNOW THEIR LIST PRICE.
EMERSON IN THE USA IS LOCATED IN NEW JERSEY. IT SAYS ON THE BOX THAT IT
CONNECTS BETWEEN NTSC, VCR, DSS OR SATELLITE RECEIVER. THAT IS WHAT I AM
READING ON THE BOX AS I WRITE THIS. TO USE IT IN OTHER COUNTRIES BESIDE
CANADA USA AND MEXICO AND OTHER AREAS OF THE AMERICAS ON PLUG CONVERATER
NEEDS TO BE PURCHASED.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:09:13 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Standards Conversion (NTSC/PAL)
Message-ID:
on 7/24/01 12:55 AM, Douglas White at dvdoug@yahoo.com wrote:
> I need to convert some DV data from NTSC to PAL.
> Ideally, I'm looking for a facility in the San
> Francisco area that uses a Snell and Wilcox Alchemist
> (which I can't afford to buy outright).
>
> Otherwise, information on lower-end units (10K or
> less) would be appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Doug
>
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HELLO: JUST SENT A NOTE TO ANDREW ASKING HIM WHETHER THE EMERSON CONVERTER
IS LOCATED IN CANADA. IF YOU NEED HELP FINDING EMERSON CONTACT ME ON THIS
SITE AND I WILL DO WHAT I CAN. I WOULD TRY THIS OUT BEFORE YOU SPEND THE
MONEY WITH SOMEONE SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING FOR WHAT YOU SPEND.
TUGHOLLOW
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:17:33 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Canon XL1s Test Results
Message-ID:
on 7/24/01 8:26 AM, Mark Williams at mark@sunset.win.net wrote:
> when will they be ready for sale?
>
> Mark Williams
> Pacific Coast Digital
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Charles F. McConathy
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:46 AM
> Subject: Canon XL1s Test Results
>
>
>> Well...after much fiddling and testing with the new "XL1s" it looks like
>> Canon has a winner.
>>
>> Although the manual lens is something I was hoping to test there were
>> plenty of other features to keep me busy.
>>
>> Let's just go down the list.
>>
>> 1. DV control is great. It actually works. Allows a slave deck to be
>> controlled by the camera.
>>
>> 2. Personally I love the new 30db gain feature as I do reality shoots at
>> night using ambient light.
>>
>> 3. The 16:9 guide in the viewfinder is great for composing your shot in a
>> 4:3 space with the possibility of displaying on a 16:9 monitor.
>>
>> 4. Now we can all shoot the roses going into bloom by using the "Interval
>> Recording' feature.
>>
>> 5. The "ClearScan" feature was not enabled on this prototype demo unit.
>>
>> 6. New SMPTE color bars - "woopie" - Now I can use the vectorscope in FCP.
>>
>> 7. I love the "Power Save" feature as I often shoot with a switcher and
>> had to leave the tape out or the tape bay open to keep the XL1 from
>> shutting down.
>>
>> 8. The permanent window burn is nice for "Legal Videographers".
>>
>> 9. Assuming we get a good shot we can now mark it with an "Index Mark".
>>
>> 10. Variable Zebra is neat but will take some practice to get tuned into.
>>
>> 11."Picture Adjustments" combined with "User Presets" will come in handy
>> for adjusting to other camcorders such as Sony in a multi camera shoot.
>>
>> 12. Three white balance presets. What a luxury!
>>
>> 13. Audio dub is going to be useful for doing things like field voice
>> over or add on music tracks when they need to view the video
>> simultaneously.
>>
>> 14. "FOUR" XLR inputs. Now that is pure extravagance.
>>
>> 15. AV inserts...Frame accurate... We will experiment further with that
>> one.
>>
>> 16."Analog input" It's about time. What were they thinking in 1997
>> anyway?
>>
>> 17.Two hours on a stock battery versus about 45 minutes sounds
>> great...we'll see.
>>
>> 18. Easy Menu...Hey it feels like a Sony!
>>
>> 19. The picture quality of the XL1s was better than with the XL1 - a
>> subjective statement that the eye of the beholder will need to prove.
>>
>> 20. The XL1 or the XL1s does not handle high contrast lighting as well as
>> other camcorders such as the Sony DSR-PD150 or the DSR-250 for example.
>>
>> 21. The new lens seems more solid and we did not experience "jumps"
>> during zooming.
>>
>> The comments above by Larry Kausch - ProMax Instructor, Support, and Demo
>> Artist.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Charles F. McConathy, President
>> ProMax Systems, Inc. - 16 Technology Drive #106 - Irvine, CA 92618
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HELLO: ARE THE RECHARABLE BATTERIES THAT ATE USED IN THE GLI AND THE XLI
USEABLE IN THIS NEW CAMERA AND ARE THE LENSES THAT ARE ON THE XL1 USEABLE IN
THIS CAMERA. THAT WAS THE PROBLEM WITH THE L1 AND L2. THEY COULD NOT BE
USED IN THE XL1, ARE THEIR MORE USES ON THE REMOTE THAT COMES WITH THE
CAMERA AND ARE THEY EASY TO USE? TUGHOLLOW
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:01:19 +1200
From: Crazyhorse Pictures
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Standards Conversion (NTSC/PAL)
Message-ID: <3B5E6EBF3C.E4A4SOUTHCAM@smtp.world-net.co.nz>
Hi David.. actually glad to be able to help you in return!!.. Try
www.mgram.com.au They have a (japan built USA designed) "Multivideo
Converter" that we aquired off them.. it appears quite a nice digital
converter for ALL systems including VGA..
Steve
> HELLO: JUST SENT A NOTE TO ANDREW ASKING HIM WHETHER THE EMERSON CONVERTER
> IS LOCATED IN CANADA. IF YOU NEED HELP FINDING EMERSON CONTACT ME ON THIS
> SITE AND I WILL DO WHAT I CAN. I WOULD TRY THIS OUT BEFORE YOU SPEND THE
> MONEY WITH SOMEONE SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING FOR WHAT YOU SPEND.
> TUGHOLLOW
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