DV-L Wed, 1 Aug 2001 Volume 1 : Number 934
In this issue:
I see a bluish/grey outline to the left of Red/Orange opbjects
///Fast Dv Master questions
Re: DV-L V1 #933
Re: Quicktime conundrum
Re: ///Fast Dv Master questions
Sony FX190, home DV editing & and Win ME
Re: StormEdit compared to FCP (long)
Re: StormEdit compared to FCP (long)
Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
RE: URGENT: XL1 Auto Focus Problem Needs Immediate Solution
Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
Re: Quicktime - midi files to audio files (wav/aif)
RE: Sound for DV Short Film
Re: ///Fast Dv Master questions
Re: ///Fast Dv Master questions
DV PAL or DV NTSC
FW: DO PAL or DV NTSC
RE: DV PAL or DV NTSC
Re: DV PAL or DV NTSC
Re: XL1 auto focus
DV Storm capture format
Re: DV PAL or DV NTSC
Re: DV Storm capture format
Re: Sony FX190, home DV editing & and Win ME
Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
RE: Best DV Projector
RE: Best DV Projector
RE: Best DV Projector
RE: Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
RE: Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
How to mic a panel
Re: Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
RE: Sound for DV Short Film
DVD burning fees?
Re: Best DV Projector
RE: Best DV Projector
RE: Best DV Projector
Re: Best DV Projector
Re: DVD burning fees?
RE: Jumped ship?
Re: DVD burning fees?
Re: DVD burning fees?
Re: Broadcast
Re: was:Jumped ship?now: slo-mo canopus DV
Re: DV Storm capture format
Re: Clicks at the endpoint of every piece of sound!
Is there a way to check sound overload in Premiere/EditDV?
Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
question about 'DV avi' format
PAL Analog-DV converter
RE: question about 'DV avi' format
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:27:14 +0200
From: "Tal Hart \(I-Media\)"
To:
Subject: I see a bluish/grey outline to the left of Red/Orange opbjects
Message-ID: <09ae01c1199a$9e132f80$64ba39d5@a9l0d9>
in many occasions,
i can see a greyish/vluish outline (like 1-2 pixels)
to the left of red/orange objects ..
is this a calibration problem of the camera ?
a DV artifact ?
any ideas ?
can it be eliminated ?
I Use a TRV 900E
Tal.
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Date: 31 Jul 2001 07:22:26 -0000
From: "Ricardo Costa"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: ///Fast Dv Master questions
Message-ID: <20010731072226.7248.qmail@purina.chek.com>
I have a Dv Master Card in a Athlon 1.4 System with Win2k, I read a tech note from fast, witch tell me if a disable ACPI in win2k de card should be work without problems, but no! the dv manager tells me "capture codec not proprely instaled", I don't have any more ideas.... can you help me!?
tkxs
Ricardo Costa
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:54:11 -0700
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Quicktime conundrum
Message-ID:
At 2:12 PM -0700 8/30/01, Mike Falconer wrote:
>I have a 48 second long 320x240 avi file that I've turned into a
>same size Quicktime movie for streaming on my website. I've gone for
>a high quality DSL type file using Sorenson 3 and 29.97 frames per
>second etc.
>
>However the movie insists on fully downloading before it will play.
>
>I've tried a number of Quicktime Pro encoding options and can't get
>it to start on it's own and play including checking the "fast start"
>option.
>Does anyone have a thought on how I can solve this problem?
Open in QTPlayer Pro and save as self-contained to a new name. That
should make sure the movie header ends up at the front of the file, a
pre-requisite for fast-start.
For it to autoplay, you need to trigger this via the embed syntax on
your webpage:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/authoring/embed.html
Or set the autoplay flag
QT player pro 5 lets you set this:
Get Movie Properties from the Movie Menu.
choose Auto Play from the RH popup,
check the box
Save as self-contained to keep the fast-start behaviour.
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:53:29 -0400
From: "David Mowbray"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: ///Fast Dv Master questions
Message-ID: <3B6655E9.11351.2F2FAA9@localhost>
Hi Ricardo:
I don't have an answer to your problem but you realize you are
pushing the limits. Fast stopped writing drivers for DV Master long
before WIn2K. I am using mine under Win98SE and Premiere 6
and it works most of the time. I have not had the nerve to go to
Win2K with it. Good luck and I hope Andy Stevens or some other
DV Master Guru on the list will be able to help you.
> I have a Dv Master Card in a Athlon 1.4 System with Win2k, I read a
> tech note from fast, witch tell me if a disable ACPI in win2k de card
> should be work without problems, but no! the dv manager tells me
> "capture codec not proprely instaled", I don't have any more ideas....
> can you help me!?
Cheers
David Mowbray
Baobab Productions Inc
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.baobab.net
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:43:38 -0400
From: "Chris Muller"
To:
Subject: Sony FX190, home DV editing & and Win ME
Message-ID: <000301c119c6$ce5b6640$6b0aa8c0@compuhelp.compuhelp.com>
Newbie sort of question:
Just got a Sony D8 camera, would like to do some modest home video editing,
and I need a new laptop for work. So I hope to combine these needs. The Sony
FX-190 looks like a good price/performance choice. The most readily
available (and cheapest) version comes with Windows Me.
I have seen a number of comments posted about problems with WinMe and
firewire control. For example, some say the firewire device (camera) is not
being recognized--though others say it's just a matter of being sure it's
switched to VCR mode. Some say that there are problems sending edited DV
back to the camera...
Has anyone had any experience with this issue, and better yet, with the
FX-190 in particular?
Thanks for your help.
Chris Muller
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:59:55 -0500
From: Chris Hurd
To:
Subject: Re: StormEdit compared to FCP (long)
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010731083151.0276b2f8@dvinfo.net>
Howdy from Texas,
Note: This is not a "versus war;" it's simply a
*subjective comparison* of features between
Apple and Canopus software.
Please do not presume any precocious platform
posturing. I prefer to preserve the peace, and
possibly placate List police!)
Mark Williams wrote...
>
> I was just about to buy a Final Cut Pro system...
> how does the DVStorm compare in price?
Final Cut Pro is software only; about $1000.
DVStorm is software *and* hardware, about
$1600.
I recently reviewed a DVLine DVStorm system for
the current issue of RES Magazine, vol. 4 no. 4, and I
compared StormEdit to FCP. Here's a highly abridged
version of an unpublished draft of that article:
StormEdit employs a simple, intuitive interface that allows you to
work quickly and easily without insulting your intelligence. Basic
transitions such as Alpha wipes, dissolves, etc. are highly configurable
with keyframes and other options. The DVLine system I tested was easily
capable of multiple layers of titles and simultaneous video filters, mixed
with picture-in-picture and chromakey effects, all in real-time without
rendering.
Audio filters include the usual compliment of graphic and parametric EQ's
and other tools. Among the array of video filters, I found three in particular
which are quite powerful: Blend Effects, Combine Effects and "Old Movie."
Blend Effects provides an easy method to ease a filter into video over a
period of time and is keyframeable. Combine Effects lets you set up and
adjust a series of any five filters which you can save and recall for later
use.
"Old Movie" is a cheesy name for a multiple filter, which, if used properly,
can achieve a very nice film look for video (by ignoring the stereotypical
"dust and hair" and applying instead a careful mix of film grain, slight
border darkening and blended fields).
One of the most powerful video filter features in StormEdit is realtime color
correction. I was able to... instantly review the results over moving video,
not just a still image. Color is adjustable on the fly through three separate
correction menus and a built-in series of presets options. Like the other
filters, custom settings can be saved and recalled for use on additional
clips and projects. In my opinion, the real-time color correction features
(plus real-time DV output from the timeline) are the most valuable
DVStorm assets.
In sharp contrast to Final Cut Pro, StormEdit handles titles and graphic
overlays with swift ease, in real time. You can layer about ten separate
title tracks with enhancements and motion over a video clip before you
start to compromise the system and lose real-time performance...
As much as I like StormEdit, it does suffer from some serious limitations.
For one thing, it's not possible to employ sound-advance or image-advance
cuts (commonly called J-cuts or L-cuts...) without jumping through a couple
of complicated hoops. I miss Final Cut Pro's fit-to-fill editing option, its
extensive media management bin window and its ability to combine
multiple projects.
My biggest StormEdit peeve, however, is the lack of filenames on the
timeline. The picons are there along with colored blocks representing
various media types, but there's no way of knowing their filenames or
durations without right-clicking on the timeline and choosing "properties."
While Premiere 6.0 and Final Cut Pro offer filenames right on the timeline,
StormEdit keeps you guessing as to which clip is which, and this
is a distinct disadvantage in long-form editing.
Despite these drawbacks, StormEdit provides a powerful way to edit
long or short projects quickly. There's real-time 16:9 support, plus
SMPTE color bars... and a waveform monitor and vectorscope..."
Hope this helps,
Chris Hurd
San Marcos, TX
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 07:14:36 -0700
From: "Mark Williams"
To:
Subject: Re: StormEdit compared to FCP (long)
Message-ID: <000701c119cb$220cbc40$19b01e18@socal.rr.com>
Thanks for the info....now I have a better ideas of what these two systesm
can do.
mark w
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hurd
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: StormEdit compared to FCP (long)
> Howdy from Texas,
>
> Note: This is not a "versus war;" it's simply a
> *subjective comparison* of features between
> Apple and Canopus software.
>
> Please do not presume any precocious platform
> posturing. I prefer to preserve the peace, and
> possibly placate List police!)
>
> Mark Williams wrote...
> >
> > I was just about to buy a Final Cut Pro system...
> > how does the DVStorm compare in price?
>
> Final Cut Pro is software only; about $1000.
> DVStorm is software *and* hardware, about
> $1600.
>
> I recently reviewed a DVLine DVStorm system for
> the current issue of RES Magazine, vol. 4 no. 4, and I
> compared StormEdit to FCP. Here's a highly abridged
> version of an unpublished draft of that article:
>
> StormEdit employs a simple, intuitive interface that allows you to
> work quickly and easily without insulting your intelligence. Basic
> transitions such as Alpha wipes, dissolves, etc. are highly configurable
> with keyframes and other options. The DVLine system I tested was easily
> capable of multiple layers of titles and simultaneous video filters, mixed
> with picture-in-picture and chromakey effects, all in real-time without
> rendering.
>
> Audio filters include the usual compliment of graphic and parametric EQ's
> and other tools. Among the array of video filters, I found three in
particular
> which are quite powerful: Blend Effects, Combine Effects and "Old Movie."
> Blend Effects provides an easy method to ease a filter into video over a
> period of time and is keyframeable. Combine Effects lets you set up and
> adjust a series of any five filters which you can save and recall for
later
> use.
> "Old Movie" is a cheesy name for a multiple filter, which, if used
properly,
> can achieve a very nice film look for video (by ignoring the stereotypical
> "dust and hair" and applying instead a careful mix of film grain, slight
> border darkening and blended fields).
>
> One of the most powerful video filter features in StormEdit is realtime
color
> correction. I was able to... instantly review the results over moving
video,
> not just a still image. Color is adjustable on the fly through three
separate
> correction menus and a built-in series of presets options. Like the other
> filters, custom settings can be saved and recalled for use on additional
> clips and projects. In my opinion, the real-time color correction features
> (plus real-time DV output from the timeline) are the most valuable
> DVStorm assets.
>
> In sharp contrast to Final Cut Pro, StormEdit handles titles and graphic
> overlays with swift ease, in real time. You can layer about ten separate
> title tracks with enhancements and motion over a video clip before you
> start to compromise the system and lose real-time performance...
>
> As much as I like StormEdit, it does suffer from some serious limitations.
> For one thing, it's not possible to employ sound-advance or image-advance
> cuts (commonly called J-cuts or L-cuts...) without jumping through a
couple
> of complicated hoops. I miss Final Cut Pro's fit-to-fill editing option,
its
> extensive media management bin window and its ability to combine
> multiple projects.
>
> My biggest StormEdit peeve, however, is the lack of filenames on the
> timeline. The picons are there along with colored blocks representing
> various media types, but there's no way of knowing their filenames or
> durations without right-clicking on the timeline and choosing
"properties."
> While Premiere 6.0 and Final Cut Pro offer filenames right on the
timeline,
> StormEdit keeps you guessing as to which clip is which, and this
> is a distinct disadvantage in long-form editing.
>
> Despite these drawbacks, StormEdit provides a powerful way to edit
> long or short projects quickly. There's real-time 16:9 support, plus
> SMPTE color bars... and a waveform monitor and vectorscope..."
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Chris Hurd
> San Marcos, TX
>
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 07:19:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: wes chow
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
Message-ID: <20010731141926.20380.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com>
> Despite these drawbacks, StormEdit provides a powerful way to edit
> long or short projects quickly.
I'd like to add that it was never Canopus' intent to actively compete
in the FCP/Premiere market. RexEdit (on which StormEdit is based) was
originally meant to be a way of making a fast rough cut. It's quite
impressive that the software is so powerful that people actually use it
for serious editing.
Wes
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:26:55 -0400
From: "Christopher Van Nest"
To:
Subject: RE: URGENT: XL1 Auto Focus Problem Needs Immediate Solution
Message-ID:
Thanks everyone for your feedback and suggestions (and support ;-) on the
XL1 focus issue. We have the XL1 back at the NJ repair facility this week
but from your feedback it sounds like the issue is normal (!) with the XL1
in general. We'll try working more with manual focus, when possible, to work
around the focus, but we cover a lot of outdoor action shots that are
difficult to keep up with in manual mode. Interestingly, the GL1 auto focus
works flawlessly under the same conditions (we use it for b-roll)-- I
suppose the XL1s update brings the XL1 up to speed in that area.
Thanks again,
Christopher
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Burkhart [mailto:burkhart@maui.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 5:11 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Re: URGENT: XL1 Auto Focus Problem Needs Immediate Solution
>
>
> Christopher Van Nest wrote:
>
> > We recently purchased an XL1 for a national show we're
> currently producing
> > and we're regularly having MAJOR focus problems with it in auto
> focus mode.
> > Basically, it seems to momentarily lose focus at the strangest
> (and often
> > most critical) times without any known changes to the controls.
>
> Christopher, I'm sure every XL1 user on this list feels your pain
> over this subject. We've all been there more times than we care
> to count. We have all fought this battle. For me, here's
> what works best:
>
> I sometimes run in the auto focus mode but only when there is no
> chance in hell that I can keep up with the focus. Mostly I run
> in the manual focus mode, pressing the momentary focus
> switch when I want to check or adjust focus. Of course you need
> to zoom in all the way, check focus and then zoom out to frame
> your shot. Even in the manual focus mode you can just barely
> move the focus ring on the lens and it will pop out of focus. I
> try to make it a habit to NEVER touch the focus ring. When focus
> adjustment is needed, I press the momentary focus switch
> until focus is reached and then I release it, returning to manual focus.
>
> One more thing about staying in focus throughout a zoom, of
> course you must be at lease 6 or 7 feet from your subject if you
> expect the focus tracking to work correctly.
>
> With the color viewfinder that comes with the XL1, it's a bit
> difficult to see exact focus in the first place.
> You may laugh at this, but when I end up with a shot that's
> slightly out of focus, I have the luxury of being able to pop a
> Sharp filter into the clip with my Canopus DVStorm and it works
> wonders. It's saved my butt more times than I care to count.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Aloha,
> Jon Burkhart
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:47:57 -0400
From: "Gary Bettan, The Electronic Mailbox"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010731103509.03f7aae0@pop3.concentric.net>
At 07:19 AM 7/31/01 -0700, you wrote:
>RexEdit (on which StormEdit is based) was
>originally meant to be a way of making a fast rough cut.
It was also a way to insure a stable editing system. By having the customer
test and initially use his system with Rex Edit, troubleshooting was a
breeze and customer's "out of box" experience was great.
Rex originally shipped with Ulead MS Pro. I think 2.5. Then they went to
Premiere, but we all will recall how horrible Premiere 5.0 was. (5.1 was a
MAJOR bug fix and made life much better).
I feel that one of the key reasons Canopus got their reputation for rock
solid stability was there ability to utilize Rex Edit instead. For event
videography, Rex edit (and now Storm Edit) is actually an excellent NLE
app. It gives you the features you really want and need, it is quite easy
to use and most importantly, the stability is phenomenal.
Gary
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:11:55 -0400
From: "Dany Coryet"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Quicktime - midi files to audio files (wav/aif)
Message-ID:
Upgrade your Quick Time to the Pro Player edition-then you can convert to
other file formats (in the current instrumentation of your midi
'performance')29.95 on apples site
>From: Sean Adair
>Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
>To:
>Subject: Quicktime - midi files to audio files (wav/aif)
>Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:32:26 -0400
>
>I wondered if anyone could let me in on an easy way to get midi files
>(classical keyboard transcriptions) into wav or aif files for use in a
>lo/no
>budget dance therapy video for a non-profit I work with.
>
>Mac G4/400, quicktime pro, FinalCut Pro 2,
>
>I could of course play midi in quicktime out to speakers, record to tape,
>then recapture the audio from tape as a wav (yucch).
>
>... use digital performer 2.7 to drive my GR-1 guitar synth through my USB
>Tascam US-428, and somehow loop it back into the inputs and record the
>audio. (even more of a pain)
>
>Quicktime pro doesn't export the midi file as any sound file, I couldn't
>configure any of the recorders I have to receive QT's playing of the file,
>and couldn't find any shareware solutions after a decent search, including
>some dedicated Mac midi link lists.
>
>I have a bunch of music utilities like free midi, OMS, peak, soundedit 16,
>Roland VSC-88, plus. I expected this to be a snap - a pc with a duplex
>sound
>card can set the input to internal sounds - the new soundblaster live for
>the Mac would probably do it, but that wasn't in my purchase plan.
>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:08:47 +0100
From: Mark Grant
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Sound for DV Short Film
Message-ID: <0182399E7179D211824400A0C9EA408A02C9D87B@exchuk02.3dlabs.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen van Vuuren [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com]
> The steaditracker system we had is very sensitive to weight
> and balance - the cables running to the camera on fast shots
> completely threw it off and posed and safety risk to the
> camera operator, especially up and down stairs.
Simple solution to the first problem: gaffer-tape the cables to the camera
operator's shoulder so most of the weight of the cables goes there and not
onto the camera. Works for me with my Steadicam JR.
Mark
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:05:02 +0100
From: Andy Stevens
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: ///Fast Dv Master questions
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010731085629.00adada0@mail.ulti-media.com>
At 07:22 AM 7/31/01 +0000, you wrote:
>I have a Dv Master Card in a Athlon 1.4 System with Win2k, I read a tech
>note from fast, witch tell me if a disable ACPI in win2k de card should
>be work without problems, but no! the dv manager tells me "capture codec
>not proprely instaled", I don't have any more ideas.... can you help me!?
>
>tkxs
>Ricardo Costa
Ricardo,
Personally, I would not go there. Getting the DV Master card to function
under Win2K has not been accomplished with any consistent degree of success.
It will work wonderfully, producing excellent results under NT 4.0 SP6a
when combined with the 2.0 drivers and Speed Razor 2000X. I would like to
take this opportunity to extend Kudos to Jamie and the crew at In-Sync who
have included the DV Master board in their research and development long
after it was abandoned by Fast.
For more extensive support and documentation, including a searchable data
base of solutions, see the link to my DV Master support site in my signature.
Andy Stevens
Ulti-Media Productions
http://www.ulti-media.com
DV Master Pro & Speed Razor Users Forum
http://www.ulti-media.com/dvmaster_pro.htm
"Ghostrider" Vulcan Nomad 1500 VROC 2651
http://www.ulti-media.com/2651.htm
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:07:09 +0100
From: Andy Stevens
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: ///Fast Dv Master questions
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010731090558.00aca1c0@mail.ulti-media.com>
At 06:53 AM 7/31/01 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Ricardo:
I don't have an answer to your problem but you realize you are
pushing the limits. Fast stopped writing drivers for DV Master long
before WIn2K. I am using mine under Win98SE and Premiere 6
and it works most of the time. I have not had the nerve to go to
Win2K with it. Good luck and I hope Andy Stevens or some other
DV Master Guru on the list will be able to help you.
David,
Thanks for the plug ;-)
The link to my support site is:
DV Master Pro & Speed Razor Users Forum
http://www.ulti-media.com/dvmaster_pro.htm
Hope this helps
Andy
> I have a Dv Master Card in a Athlon 1.4 System with Win2k, I read a
> tech note from fast, witch tell me if a disable ACPI in win2k de card
> should be work without problems, but no! the dv manager tells me
> "capture codec not proprely instaled", I don't have any more ideas....
> can you help me!?
Cheers
David Mowbray
Baobab Productions Inc
Ottawa, Canada
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:54:53 +0600
From: "Ranga Jagoda"
To:
Subject: DV PAL or DV NTSC
Message-ID:
Hi everyone,
This may sound stupid as my instincts tell me I should not be asking this
question, anyway here is my question.
Is there a difference between PAL Firewire cards and NTSC Firewire cards if
so how do find out.
I've seen a few cards ranging from $15 upwards which are sold in the US and
I come from Sri Lanka where PAL is the standard. I use MSP 6.0 for editing
corporate presentations for CD and use a TV Tuner card for capturing small
video clips. Will I be able to use a $15 card with MSP 6.0? I also heard
that I should look for a card that has the T1 chipset if want to stay away
from compatibility issues. Advice me please.
Ranga Jagoda,
nurk@sltnet.lk
ranga@softhome.net
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:59:34 +0600
From: "Ranga Jagoda"
To:
Subject: FW: DO PAL or DV NTSC
Message-ID:
Hi everyone,
please excuse my grammar on my previous massage I wrote it in a hurry. It
was when I read it a second time that I noticed the words that I had
omitted.
Thanx,
Ranga.
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:23:48 -0600
From: Nathan White
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: DV PAL or DV NTSC
Message-ID: <744756312232D51190B000A0C94970A1029DDD@LYRA>
It is my understanding that this is not a hardware issue but rather a
software issue. The card should be able to handle either format its just a
matter of your editing software having the right codec to handle PAL.
I am currently using an XL-1 (PAL) on FCP w/ the standard US built in apple
firewire port and have experinced no troubles.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ranga Jagoda [mailto:ranga@softhome.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:55 AM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: DV PAL or DV NTSC
Hi everyone,
This may sound stupid as my instincts tell me I should not be asking this
question, anyway here is my question.
Is there a difference between PAL Firewire cards and NTSC Firewire cards if
so how do find out.
I've seen a few cards ranging from $15 upwards which are sold in the US and
I come from Sri Lanka where PAL is the standard. I use MSP 6.0 for editing
corporate presentations for CD and use a TV Tuner card for capturing small
video clips. Will I be able to use a $15 card with MSP 6.0? I also heard
that I should look for a card that has the T1 chipset if want to stay away
from compatibility issues. Advice me please.
Ranga Jagoda,
nurk@sltnet.lk
ranga@softhome.net
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:09:16 +0200
From: "Tal Hart \(I-Media\)"
To:
Subject: Re: DV PAL or DV NTSC
Message-ID: <0a3601c119f4$4ba0f980$64ba39d5@a9l0d9>
I Bought a Pinnacle DVStudio in the US , and it arrived NTSC Only...
after checking around,
i found out that the NTSC Limitation is in the software,
and is simply a distribution/territory issue...
if you use the same card with a PAL Software (I simply use it with Premier
6) it works all right....
the Software that came in the box is useless ... (I downloaded the updated
version from pinnacle europe website and it fixed it)
tal.
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:54 PM
Subject: DV PAL or DV NTSC
> Hi everyone,
> This may sound stupid as my instincts tell me I should not be asking this
> question, anyway here is my question.
> Is there a difference between PAL Firewire cards and NTSC Firewire cards
if
> so how do find out.
> I've seen a few cards ranging from $15 upwards which are sold in the US
and
> I come from Sri Lanka where PAL is the standard. I use MSP 6.0 for editing
> corporate presentations for CD and use a TV Tuner card for capturing small
> video clips. Will I be able to use a $15 card with MSP 6.0? I also heard
> that I should look for a card that has the T1 chipset if want to stay away
> from compatibility issues. Advice me please.
> Ranga Jagoda,
> nurk@sltnet.lk
> ranga@softhome.net
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:22:12 -0400
From: DPalomaki
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: XL1 auto focus
Message-ID: <3B66F754.7A1CCE62@cox.rr.com>
> Basically, it seems to momentarily lose focus at the strangest
> (and often most critical) times without any known changes to
> the controls.
The XL1 auto focus need about 50 LUX or higher for good
performance. Less light and hunting is likely. Light levels over
100K LUX are also likely to cause dificulty.
Auto focus needs contrast in the images - vertical edges work
best. If there is low contrast it can start to hunt. There may be
some color spectrum effects too but I cannot confrm that.
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:24:46 -0400
From: "Robert A.\" Dink \" Heinzman"
To:
Subject: DV Storm capture format
Message-ID: <001d01c119ee$170e2b80$c5a31f18@columbus.rr.com>
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Does the storm digitize analog video captured from its analog ports or =
leave it as analog...??
Thanks, RAH
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Does the = storm digitize=20 analog video captured from its analog ports or leave it as=20 analog...??
Thanks,=20 RAH
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:31:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV PAL or DV NTSC
Message-ID: <200107311831.f6VIVAH25162@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>Hi everyone,
>This may sound stupid as my instincts tell me I should not be asking this
>question, anyway here is my question.
>Is there a difference between PAL Firewire cards and NTSC Firewire cards if
>so how do find out.
>Ranga Jagoda,
Firewire cards know nothing about video formats. Hell, they don't even know
that it is video data that is being transferred.
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:50:43 -0400
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: DV Storm capture format
Message-ID: <003101c119fd$175ee5c0$6401a8c0@cfl.rr.com>
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All computer based systems digitize the video. Only tape leaves the =
video it in analog format with unavoidable generational losses. The =
DVStorm uses the Canopus DV Codec to compress the digital video so if =
you're using a DV or Digital 8 camcorder of deck to record your finished =
video there will be no additional loss going to or returning from =
digital tape via the Firewire port. There are some other systems which =
give you the option of editing in DV or MPEG2 format but there are no =
MPEG2 camcorders or decks that are a match for all of the DV equipment =
on the market. There are a few camcorders that are beginning to show up =
that use MPEG2 and some form of disk for recording but they are not =
nearly as common as DV and they don't transfer via the Firewire.
Walt
----- Original Message -----=20
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To: DV-L@dvcentral.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:24 PM
Subject: DV Storm capture format
Does the storm digitize analog video captured from its analog ports or =
leave it as analog...??
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All computer based systems digitize the = video. Only=20 tape leaves the video it in analog format with unavoidable generational = losses.=20 The DVStorm uses the Canopus DV Codec to compress the digital video so = if you're=20 using a DV or Digital 8 camcorder of deck to record your finished video = there=20 will be no additional loss going to or returning from digital tape via = the=20 Firewire port. There are some other systems which give you the option of = editing=20 in DV or MPEG2 format but there are no MPEG2 camcorders or decks that = are a=20 match for all of the DV equipment on the market. There are a few = camcorders that=20 are beginning to show up that use MPEG2 and some form of disk for = recording but=20 they are not nearly as common as DV and they don't transfer via the=20 Firewire.
Walt
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To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 = 2:24=20 PM
Subject: DV Storm capture = format
Does the = storm digitize=20 analog video captured from its analog ports or leave it as=20 analog...??
Thanks,=20 RAH
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:35:03 +0100
From: "BRODIE PATERSON"
To:
Subject: Re: Sony FX190, home DV editing & and Win ME
Message-ID: <000701c11a00$47efbae0$bd84fc3e@mshome.net>
No problems with an FX 103 (run out model)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Muller"
To:
Sent: 31 July 2001 14:43
Subject: Sony FX190, home DV editing & and Win ME
> Newbie sort of question:
>
> Just got a Sony D8 camera, would like to do some modest home video
editing,
> and I need a new laptop for work. So I hope to combine these needs. The
Sony
> FX-190 looks like a good price/performance choice. The most readily
> available (and cheapest) version comes with Windows Me.
>
> I have seen a number of comments posted about problems with WinMe and
> firewire control. For example, some say the firewire device (camera) is
not
> being recognized--though others say it's just a matter of being sure it's
> switched to VCR mode. Some say that there are problems sending edited DV
> back to the camera...
>
> Has anyone had any experience with this issue, and better yet, with the
> FX-190 in particular?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Chris Muller
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:02:38 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <200107311702.AA269746474@mail.xiveren.com>
We will be showing our first DV short in a smallish theater, seats 150+, about 50-100 ft from screen. We will have to provide both the projector and the screen. The material is all shot DV, we will bring our own source deck.
Suggestions on the best projector for the job? Quality is very much an issue and we're willing to fork out a few bucks rental to get the right unit.
--
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"It can only be attributable to human error"
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:41:37 +0200
From: "Tal Hart \(I-Media\)"
To:
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <0a9201c11a11$f62dd6d0$64ba39d5@a9l0d9>
All new Barco series projectors , 7000,9000,10000
You'll need some strong man to carry it :-) it weighs over 200 pounds i
think....
great quality though.
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:02 PM
Subject: Best DV Projector
> We will be showing our first DV short in a smallish theater, seats 150+,
> about 50-100 ft from screen. We will have to provide both the projector
> and the screen. The material is all shot DV, we will bring our own source
> deck.
>
> Suggestions on the best projector for the job? Quality is very much an
> issue and we're willing to fork out a few bucks rental to get the right
> unit.
>
> --
> stephen
>
> www.xiveren.com
>
> "It can only be attributable to human error"
> -HAL
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:12:25 +1000
From: "Ian Schutt"
To:
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <009e01c11a0d$e18a0360$0300a8c0@ibmxeon>
I think the Barco are are the "No-brainer" if you have the dollars..
At the recent SMPTE Trade Exhibition is Sydney their "Reel" ran for the last
day of the build and it sure turned a lot of heads.
Bright, bright, bright!
Ian Schutt
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:18:35 -0700
From: "Clesson Duke"
To:
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <017001c11a0e$be5d3b90$4600a8c0@dev01>
The magic word here is... R E N T :-)
Rent a Barco (and suitable trailer) for the day(s) you need it.
A 3-Beam projector will produce a much softer (film-look) quality than will
an LCD projector (much lighter and sharper).
In either case, make sure you have someone who REALLY knows how to work
them, because they get out of convergence/alignment very easily.
-
Clesson Duke
San Diego, CA USA
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:24:34 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <200107311824.AA716701838@mail.xiveren.com>
>Rent a Barco (and suitable trailer) for the day(s) you need it.
>
We were planning on renting. Any experience with Barco rentals in North Carolina by anyone on the list?
--
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"It can only be attributable to human error"
-HAL
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:31:25 -0700
From: "Clesson Duke"
To:
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <017c01c11a10$88efa450$4600a8c0@dev01>
I'd think any decent Audio-Visual place in Charlotte (or similar size) would
have one.
Check the phone book's yellow pages or Yahoo's Yellow Pages.
It would be helpful for fellow listers to know your city :-)
-
Clesson Duke
San Diego, CA USA
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:29:12 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A4AE7BDE@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
Stephen
To get that kind of distance, you will need a high light output projector.
There are three that will make the grade well, The Christie, the Barco and
the Panasonic PT-D9600.
All of these will need to be rented unless you have allot of spare change in
your pocket, $100,000+. You don't say where you are, so that too might help
as far as which rental facility may have what you need.
Good Luck,
Jan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen van Vuuren [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:03 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Best DV Projector
>
>
> We will be showing our first DV short in a smallish theater,
> seats 150+, about 50-100 ft from screen. We will have to
> provide both the projector and the screen. The material is
> all shot DV, we will bring our own source deck.
>
> Suggestions on the best projector for the job? Quality is
> very much an issue and we're willing to fork out a few bucks
> rental to get the right unit.
>
> --
> stephen
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:50:29 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <200107311850.AA99549460@mail.xiveren.com>
>There are three that will make the grade well, The Christie, the Barco and
>the Panasonic PT-D9600.
>
>All of these will need to be rented unless you have allot of spare change in
>your pocket, $100,000+. You don't say where you are, so that too might help
I'm not familar with the Christie. More info? What are the internal differences between the Panasonic PT-D96000 and Barco high end units?
Rental is the plan of course (we also plan to get a discount by offering the rental house sponsorship at the screening, ad on our web-site etc.). We're in Greensboro, NC.
--
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"It can only be attributable to human error"
-HAL
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:01:10 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A4AE7BDF@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
Hmmm, Greensboro, NC may be the biggest obstacle to get a projector of this
type. I would say unless you are looking to ship in from a major city you
may not be able to get a Digital Cinema Projector, which quite frankly for
the distance you describe you really need. The Christie is the most
expensive, I do believe they have a web-site. The Panasonic has thus far
won every shoot-out against the Barco. The Dynamic range and Contrast ratio
along with the lumens output is superior to the Barco, and the price is in
the same range.
Should you make a reconsideration of the throw distance the Panasonic
PT-L6600 would make a very nice image from about half that distance. Out on
our website for the projectors there is a projection calculator, button on
the left side if the screen. This little tool should help you figure out
which is going to work best vs. money vs. availability.
Good Luck!
Jan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen van Vuuren [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:50 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: RE: Best DV Projector
>
>
> >There are three that will make the grade well, The
> Christie, the Barco and
> >the Panasonic PT-D9600.
> >
> >All of these will need to be rented unless you have allot of
> spare change in
> >your pocket, $100,000+. You don't say where you are, so
> that too might help
>
> I'm not familar with the Christie. More info? What are the
> internal differences between the Panasonic PT-D96000 and
> Barco high end units?
>
> Rental is the plan of course (we also plan to get a discount
> by offering the rental house sponsorship at the screening, ad
> on our web-site etc.). We're in Greensboro, NC.
>
>
>
> --
> stephen
>
> www.xiveren.com
>
> "It can only be attributable to human error"
> -HAL
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:18:52 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <200107311918.AA1098121260@mail.xiveren.com>
>Should you make a reconsideration of the throw distance the Panasonic
>PT-L6600 would make a very nice image from about half that distance.
Good point, the theater is wider than it is deep, so we could move it closer. The calculator on the web-site does not have the PT-L6600 though.
Does you know what central NC rental houses stock this model of projector so we can take a look at one?
--
stephen
www.xiveren.com
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:21:17 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <3B673D6D.81BAEF9E@sympatico.ca>
Stephen van Vuuren wrote:
>
> We will be showing our first DV short in a smallish theater, seats 150+, about 50-100 ft from screen. We will have to provide both the > projector and the screen. The material is all shot DV, we will bring our own source deck.
>
> Suggestions on the best projector for the job? Quality is very much an issue and we're willing to fork out a few bucks rental to get the > right unit.
You've already been given excellent advice re choice of projector by
several people at the list.
I'd just like to add that choice of a really good line doubler is
*equally* important if you wish to maximize the quality of your display
(and DV/DVCAM/DVCPro at their best deserve the best).
I'd recommend anything from Faroudja, or perhaps DWIN's new Transcanner.
While many projectors have built-in doublers, they usually aren't very
good (given the cost of a projector system, manufacturers seem to assume
that most purchasers will go the whole nine yards for a top-of-the-line
doubler or scaler).
Even in a smallish theatre, artifacts from a less-than-stellar doubler
will be *very* conspicuous.
I was able some months ago to buy a second-hand DWIN LD2 (priced around
$4K [US] six years ago; I paid about $600 [US] to a seller in Vancouver
who was upgrading to the Transcanner). On my 36" Sony XBR400
(especially in the 16x9 vertical compression mode), the DWIN does a far
better job of doubling most sources than Sony's proprietary doubler
called "Digital Reality Creation".
One of my ISF technicians has the DWIN LD2 in his home-theatre setup,
matched to a NEC projector with 8" CRTs and a 12 foot (diagonal)
screen. Even fed from an entry-level Toshiba DVD player with only
S-Video rather than component or RGB feeds, the DWIN/NEC combo is
awesome.
Line doubling, however, is even more difficult from video-sourced
material than film sources (where the major challenge is correctly
reassembling the 3:2 pulldown [at least in NTSC world]), because the
temporal difference between each frame's two fields is VERY
challenging. Most authorities consider that only the Faroudja doublers
and scalers do a really convincing job of converting interlace video to
progressive scan.
Let us know what you finally use, and how you feel about the display.
Good luck.
Charles
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:07:18 -0400
From: "Neil Poese"
To:
Subject: Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
Message-ID: <014a01c11a1e$048ee820$e0fca8ce@oemcomputer>
This is all great info! I've used RaptorEdit. Can anyone compare that to
Storm and/or RexEdit?
Thanks,
Neil Poese
----- Original Message -----
From: wes chow
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
>
> > Despite these drawbacks, StormEdit provides a powerful way to edit
> > long or short projects quickly.
>
> I'd like to add that it was never Canopus' intent to actively compete
> in the FCP/Premiere market. RexEdit (on which StormEdit is based) was
> originally meant to be a way of making a fast rough cut. It's quite
> impressive that the software is so powerful that people actually use it
> for serious editing.
>
>
> Wes
>
>
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:10:29 +0100
From: "Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: Best DV Projector
Message-ID:
My, things have changed a lot over the last few years! I saw this strand and
thought I would investigate a little.
The Texas Instruments DLP chip system seems to be rolling up the whole
market, from tiny desktop units the size of a paperback right up to these
movie theatre monsters. TI themselves have set up a marketing division to
promote Digital Cinema. On their web site
(http://www.dlp.com/dlp/cinema/faq_q7.asp) they state:
>During the first half of 2000, we announced three companies with whom we
will be working to develop, manufacture and market commercial cinema
projectors based on DLP Cinema™ technology: they are BARCO, Christie Inc.
and Imax Corporation.< (Imax own a company called 'Digital Projection')
and later:
>For the foreseeable future, we expect to work with only these three
companies.<
The Panasonic projectors that Jan mentions also use a DLP engine, so I don't
know why they don't get a mention?
The old JVC-Hughes monsters have disappeared, but a new range based upon the
D-ILA engine go up to small theatre size. There is also a US company called
Colorvision with a laser based system of similar power.
I had understood from IBC a couple of years ago that Eidophor were to make a
come back but I see no sign on the Internet. For newbies they used to make
the grandfather of all large video projectors. It was based upon a
'light-valve' using a rotating drum covered in an oil film that was then
bombarded with electrons scanning the image. This distorted the oil film and
this was used to bend a light beam and via a dispersion grating modulate the
light output. The monochrome original was rather grand, but the color
version with three light valves was the size of a small garden shed and
weighed about the same as one filled with several motor mowers!
Perry Mitchell
Video Consultant
http://www.perrybits.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:32:47 +1200
From: Crazyhorse Pictures
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <3B674E2F2AD.2CC0SOUTHCAM@smtp.world-net.co.nz>
Amazing what you can find on the net!! :-)
http://audioreview.com/market/messages/48204.html
Steve
> I'd just like to add that choice of a really good line doubler is
> *equally* important if you wish to maximize the quality of your display
> (and DV/DVCAM/DVCPro at their best deserve the best).
>
> I'd recommend anything from Faroudja, or perhaps DWIN's new Transcanner.
>
> While many projectors have built-in doublers, they usually aren't very
> good (given the cost of a projector system, manufacturers seem to assume
> that most purchasers will go the whole nine yards for a top-of-the-line
> doubler or scaler).
>
> Even in a smallish theatre, artifacts from a less-than-stellar doubler
> will be *very* conspicuous.
>
> I was able some months ago to buy a second-hand DWIN LD2 (priced around
> $4K [US] six years ago; I paid about $600 [US] to a seller in Vancouver
> who was upgrading to the Transcanner). On my 36" Sony XBR400
> (especially in the 16x9 vertical compression mode), the DWIN does a far
> better job of doubling most sources than Sony's proprietary doubler
> called "Digital Reality Creation".
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:50:11 -0700
From: rich@internetproductions.com (Rich Rosen)
To:
Subject: How to mic a panel
Message-ID: <001d01c11a3d$10889bc0$12d8b918@DanaBrette>
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I am shooting with two VX-2000's. There will be a dais with five people =
and an audience Q&A.=20
Here are the issues:
1. Is there a "professional" way to mic the five people on the dais with =
LESS than five mics? If so, maybe I can buy them instead of rent.
2. What mics would be best?
3. What mixer should I use? Is there one cheap enough to, again, buy vs. =
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4. What wireless handheld will do a good job.
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1. Is there a "professional" way to mic = the five=20 people on the dais with LESS than five mics? If so, maybe I can buy them = instead=20 of rent.
2. What mics would be = best?
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:45:54 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <3B675142.642FDAA5@sympatico.ca>
Steve/Crazyhorse Pictures wrote:
>
> Amazing what you can find on the net!! :-)
> http://audioreview.com/market/messages/48204.html
OMG! This is the one I bought.
Now..., if I could find a multistandard Faroudja scaler and even 7" CRT
projector similarly priced......
Charles
> > I'd just like to add that choice of a really good line doubler is
> > *equally* important if you wish to maximize the quality of your display
> > (and DV/DVCAM/DVCPro at their best deserve the best).
> >
> > I'd recommend anything from Faroudja, or perhaps DWIN's new Transcanner.
> >
> > While many projectors have built-in doublers, they usually aren't very
> > good (given the cost of a projector system, manufacturers seem to assume
> > that most purchasers will go the whole nine yards for a top-of-the-line
> > doubler or scaler).
> >
> > Even in a smallish theatre, artifacts from a less-than-stellar doubler
> > will be *very* conspicuous.
> >
> > I was able some months ago to buy a second-hand DWIN LD2 (priced around
> > $4K [US] six years ago; I paid about $600 [US] to a seller in Vancouver
> > who was upgrading to the Transcanner). On my 36" Sony XBR400
> > (especially in the 16x9 vertical compression mode), the DWIN does a far
> > better job of doubling most sources than Sony's proprietary doubler
> > called "Digital Reality Creation".
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:04:16 +1200
From: Crazyhorse Pictures
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <3B675590C9.2CC1SOUTHCAM@smtp.world-net.co.nz>
Also shows you how out of date a lot of the NET is too!!! :-)
> Steve/Crazyhorse Pictures wrote:
> >
> > Amazing what you can find on the net!! :-)
> > http://audioreview.com/market/messages/48204.html
>
> OMG! This is the one I bought.
>
> Now..., if I could find a multistandard Faroudja scaler and even 7" CRT
> projector similarly priced......
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Charles
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:14:03 -0500
From: "Kevin Triplett"
To:
Subject: RE: Sound for DV Short Film
Message-ID:
ALL GREAT ADVICE on this thread...I'll contribute one minor counter-opinion
to Alejandro's excellent post:
>4 give your audio crew the confidence they need , so they will acctualy
cut a
>take if audio is not working( many sound recorders, mostly unexpirienced
ones are
>too afraid to stop a crucial, e.g. very expensive take, because they heard
a
>noise, a level problem etc, wich tey consider can be fixed later.).
An alternative is for the sound crew not to call for a cut but to signal the
director that they heard/hear a problem. The director may or may not call
cut since the actors may be delivering their best performance in an
otherwise difficult scene, or any number of reasons not to cut the shot. The
bottom line is, the director, or AD, should be keeping an eye on the sound
mixer for any such signals.
But giving the sound crew confidence to report problems is crucial. Don't
shoot the messenger! And trust them when they say that none of the takes are
any good, audio-wise. If you don't trust your crew, you've got the wrong
crew, or they are working for the wrong producer/director (:). Either trust
them or know enough about audio to be able to listen to the takes and know
whether or not the audio is acceptable and be prepared to suffer the
consequences.
But above all, have fun, no matter what you do! :) This life is too short.
Regards,
Kevin Triplett
Austin, TX
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:20:36 -0400
From: Yves Casavant
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: DVD burning fees?
Message-ID: <3B675963.FFD7DEBB@sympatico.ca>
How much does it cost to put a video on DVD? For 10 min, 30 min and
more? Nobody do it in my region so I'm thinking about buying a DVD
burner, but I don't know what should I charge to make a little money.
Thanks!
Yves Casavant
Videokom
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:23:53 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <3B675A29.1C050BAD@sympatico.ca>
Crazyhorse Pictures wrote:
>
> Also shows you how out of date a lot of the NET is too!!! :-)
>
> > Steve/Crazyhorse Pictures wrote:
> > >
> > > Amazing what you can find on the net!! :-)
> > > http://audioreview.com/market/messages/48204.html
> >
> > OMG! This is the one I bought.
> >
> > Now..., if I could find a multistandard Faroudja scaler and even 7" CRT
> > projector similarly priced......
> >
> >
Ironic, but for anyone considering one of the new progressive-scan
friendly TVs, if you can get a second-hand DWIN or Faroudja, you'll have
far superior 480p compared with what any of the sets' current built-in
circuitry can manage (ditto for most progressive-scan DVD players,
including some quite pricey ones). It won't look as good as on the best
projectors, because the interaction of a TV's aperture grill with the
image's scanlines creates a slightly artificial satin-like 'texture'.
But it's still an improvement on Sony's DRC which tends to look gritty
and imposes strange hair-like artifacts around titles and high-contrast
"edges".
Since there is a fair amount of discussion at this list re NTSC vs PAL,
however, I'd like to add that one of the tradeoffs with a line doubler
is that NTSC conversions from PAL originals (that may look perfect on a
standard interlace NTSC display) will, at best, look rather soft and
fuzzy, especially on a large high-resolution screen.
Since three of my industrial monitors are multistandard (including the
27" Sony PVM-2950Q) I recently bought a PAL VCR and a PAL DVD player
(the latter hasn't arrived yet), mainly because there is quite a lot of
stuff released on PAL that either won't appear in North America for a
long time, if ever. And if I ever do buy a projector, most of the
better ones are multistandard (which is one of the major reaons I'd like
one).
At Usenet, there's been a lot of discussion lately about Sony's HDCAM
modified for 24 fps. I'm beginning to think an SDT variation on this
would be an attractive interim format for videographers who have even
slight expectation of worldwide distribution for their work. In order
not to strain bandwidth, the signal could still be _stored_ as
interlace, as long as the acquisition is progressive scan. This would
require additional delay circuits for cameras and players. This is one
of the suggestions Yves Faroudja made in an interview a year or so ago,
for both the broadcast industry and for future HD storage formats.
Eventually, though, I'd hope that multistandard TVs will become
standard. Most of Sony's higher-end TVs sold in Europe display NTSC one
way or another (some directly, some as "Pseudo-PAL"), but direct-view
sets there on average aren't as large as what we're getting used to in
the US and Canada.
In Australia Sony has a 36" (4x3 AR) consumer model that displays both
PAL and NTSC, has the vertical squeeze for 16x9 sources, has
line-doubling for both PAL and NTSC, *and* a 3D comb filter for NTSC
only (mandatory IMO if you want a decent picture from either VHS or
laserdisc). The price is $7.5K (AU).
Charles
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:34:21 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <000901c11a2a$172d06e0$4423a8c0@dell420>
>Line doubling, however, is even more difficult from video-sourced
>material than film sources (where the major challenge is correctly
>reassembling the 3:2 pulldown [at least in NTSC world]), because the
>temporal difference between each frame's two fields is VERY
>challenging.
Thanks for the tip. All the DV in the short had been Deinterlaced except for
titles and credits. How will the line doubler handle this?
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to free your
heart."
-Homer Simpson
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:36:33 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <000a01c11a2a$65f750a0$4423a8c0@dell420>
>Amazing what you can find on the net!! :-)
>http://audioreview.com/market/messages/48204.html
Wish it were for rent
|:(
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to free your
heart."
-Homer Simpson
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:35:36 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Best DV Projector
Message-ID: <3B675CE8.B80F3F6@sympatico.ca>
Stephen van Vuuren wrote:
>
> >Line doubling, however, is even more difficult from video-sourced
> >material than film sources (where the major challenge is correctly
> >reassembling the 3:2 pulldown [at least in NTSC world]), because the
> >temporal difference between each frame's two fields is VERY
> >challenging.
>
> Thanks for the tip. All the DV in the short had been Deinterlaced except for
> titles and credits. How will the line doubler handle this?
If it's already been de-interlaced, then I don't think you need a
doubler.
But this is a tricky area in which nothing is stronger than the weakest
link in the chain. What player deck will you be using?
If you mean the video has already been converted to progressive scan, a
regular doubler isn't likely to add anything. You'd have to go for a
Faroudja DVP3000 (which can convert 480p to 1080i) or a Faroudja DVP5000
(which can convert 480p to 1080p). I have no idea what these might rent
for (except that it won't be cheap), but the purchase prices are well
into five figures.
Charles
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:57:17 -0400
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DVD burning fees?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010731215609.01e83538@mail.verizon.net>
We outsource our 2 hour weddings for $30. I've heard of slightly cheaper
places.
>How much does it cost to put a video on DVD? For 10 min, 30 min and
>more? Nobody do it in my region so I'm thinking about buying a DVD
>burner, but I don't know what should I charge to make a little money.
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:44:30 -0400
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Subject: RE: Jumped ship?
Message-ID: <004301c11a1a$bde8b160$ff646c42@nyc.rr.com>
> Here I thought Steve was a Matrox RT guy. Has he jumped ship?
When I found out the SP to RT2500 V3 was stiiiiillllllllll in beta I
decided it was time to reinstall the Storm and use StormEdit. I also
upgraded to 933MHz. >>>>>>>> I'M STILL TRYING TO SELL MY 600MHz SLOT 1
COPPERMINE P3! <<<<<<<<<<<
Jumped ship? Let's just say that now nearly every product is, at least
in some way, REAL-TIME -- I think reliability has become my number 1
issue.
Check the Canopus DV SLOW-MOTION program, it is fantastic.
Best Regards,
Steve Mullen
Digital Video Consulting NYC
www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:33:20 -0500
From: Elliott Mitchell
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Cc: Joe Parker
Subject: Re: DVD burning fees?
Message-ID:
At 9:57 PM -0400 7/31/01, Joe Parker wrote:
>We outsource our 2 hour weddings for $30. I've heard of slightly
>cheaper places.
Wow. I'd like to know where they get their blank media to make a
profit at those prices.
--
Elliott
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| Elliott Mitchell
| Learning Technology Center, Vanderbilt University
| Peabody Mail Stop 45 - Nashville, Tennessee 37203
| 615-343-4521 Fax: 615-343-7556
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:26:31 -0400
From: Craig Weaver
To:
Subject: Re: DVD burning fees?
Message-ID:
Not to mention the computer occupancy for encoding and burning.
Where do you get this done for 30 bucks? And exactly how independently
wealthy and/or crazy is this vendor? And you've heard of cheaper?! Sheesh
I'll stop encoding and burning my own and outsource them to your guy. I'd
actually be making money on the deal.
-- Craig Weaver
Elliott Mitchell
> At 9:57 PM -0400 7/31/01, Joe Parker wrote:
>> We outsource our 2 hour weddings for $30. I've heard of slightly
>> cheaper places.
>
> Wow. I'd like to know where they get their blank media to make a
> profit at those prices.
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:36:05 -0400
From: John Jackman
To:
Subject: Re: Broadcast
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010731232605.00b06de0@pop.compuserve.com>
At 12:20 AM 7/31/01 -0700, Jen Horn wrote:
>Sorry, I know this has been rehashed a few times but i was wondering
>if someone could point me to a good archived discussion or article
>about broadcast quality. I'm curious to understand what the general
>opinion is, as well as the "original definition."
"Broadcast Quality" is really a meaningless term today. In the days of
analog tape, it had a very clear meaning and purpose. The difference
between the pristine signal from a camera and the playback from tape was
huge, time base errors, mangling of the sync pulse, etc. 3/4" machines had
gross headswitching problems. This signal degradation came both from the
lower capability of the tape stock and from the inevitable irregularities
of the mechanical reproduction of the signal. Once you've seen the crapped
up signal on a waveform monitor, you understand the problem. One of the
things I often do in my workshops is show folks a DV signal on a scope,
then show them the same signal played back from VHS. Bleah.
"Broadcast quality" meant that the playback signal fell within rigidly
defined parameters for every aspects of the signal -- the sync pulse, color
burst, back porch, time base error, etc all had to fall within spec,
headswitching not in frame, etc. 3/4" decks could be kept in spec for
broadcast quality only with very careful tweaking and frequent maintenance.
Today, even Digital8 meets these standards, since every aspect of the
signal is generated electronically.
Other issues, such as signal legality (overexposure or illegal colors) are
still important.
John Jackman
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 00:10:04 -0400
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: was:Jumped ship?now: slo-mo canopus DV
Message-ID: <3B67811C.FCFC4991@golden.net>
Steve Mullen wrote:
Hi Steve,
Where can I find a read about this new slo-mo?
thanks..andrew
> Check the Canopus DV SLOW-MOTION program, it is fantastic.
>
> Best Regards,
> Steve Mullen
> Digital Video Consulting NYC
> www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:47:57 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV Storm capture format
Message-ID: <3B6789FD.295C56DB@maui.net>
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"Robert A.\" Dink \" Heinzman" wrote:
> Does the storm digitize analog video captured from its
> analog ports or leave it as analog...?? Thanks, RAH
Yes, analog video captured with the Storm becomes digital
video.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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"Robert A.\" Dink \" Heinzman" wrote:
Does the storm digitize analog video captured from its analog ports or leave it as analog...?? Thanks, RAH
Yes, analog video captured with the Storm becomes digital video.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:41:07 +0800
From: deusirae
To: southcam@world-net.co.nz
Cc: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: Clicks at the endpoint of every piece of sound!
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20010731222549.009f9ea0@pop.info.com.ph>
I guess I wasn't specific enough? The sine wave I mentioned was a test tone
I synthesized digitally on the computer, which means there couldn't be any
DC, or mic-related issues. What seems to be going on is a problem in the
rendering algorithms. Advice from Media100 Support to fiddle with the
soundout setting in the QT control panel (use the DirectSound output, at
the same sampling frequency and bit depth as the original audio files)
cured the clicks at the end of fadeouts, but I found a definite
demonstration of bad rendering: The WAV file rendered by EditDV was 30
samples longer than the original 1-second-long synthesized test tone! Not
much, but enough to screw up your audio loops, but good, and the
discrepancy could increase with sample length...
>This is caused by a DC component in your audio, which of course being
>DC, only makes itself known on a speaker when it starts or stops. When
>the track ends the DC suddenly stops too with a noticeable CLICK. Usually
>caused by a noisy microphone or microphone fault. It can be filtered out
>and "GOLDWAVE" does an excellent job. Funny, I've never heard of this
>problem in digital recordings however. Only in analog to digital like
>the phantom getting into dynamic mics?
>Steve
>> I'm running EditDV QT4 and WIndows 98. Rendering creates a little click
> >appears at the end of EVERY piece of sound in the timeline! This happens
> >even when I use a synthesized sine wave that loops flawlessly in
SOundforge
> >(meaning that it starts and ends on a zero crossing) and even if I put a
> >sound fade in and fadeout at the beginning and end of the piece of sound.
> >Rendering a quicktime file and then extracting the wave produces
> >incontrovertible and graphical proof: a visible spike at the end of the
> >fadeout. Is there any way to get rid of this?
> >Unbelievable!!
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:00:50 +0800
From: deusirae
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Is there a way to check sound overload in Premiere/EditDV?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20010801125008.009ec4b0@pop.info.com.ph>
I have a recurring problem where I find, that the edited sound track plays
well in EditDV/Premiere, but the dubbed-out copy on tape has distortion
where peaks in the music, voices andsound effects just happened to
coincide. Is there a program or a way to check for the presence of danger
spots BEFORE all that huggermugger?
If any programmers are listening: It would be great if the timeline would
light up where the summed waves hit dangerous levels, rather like Word
underlines/highlights bad grammar. Better if there was an audio wizard
option that you could ask to tweak dangers spots so that the mix would
never overload.
Any workarounds, workbefores?
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:57:31 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: StormEdit compared to FCP
Message-ID: <3B679A4B.BE8FFC0C@maui.net>
Neil Poese wrote:
> This is all great info! I've used RaptorEdit. Can anyone compare that to
> Storm and/or RexEdit?
>
>
Rex is very similar to RaptorEdit as is StormEdit, but StormEdit has all kinds of audio and video filters (which includes real time color correction) not on the Rex nor RaptorEdit
programs. An edit session you did inRatorEdit will probably load into StormEdit without any problem.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:08:05 +0200
From: "Aadu Adok"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: question about 'DV avi' format
Message-ID: <295199A7B119D31197F80008C7731C9D043E845B@exchange.int.hansa.ee>
hello,
two questions:
1) is it true that microsoft 'DV avi' format (saved in Premiere 6.01) holds
100% of tape data, with no quality loss?
2) what is the best way to convert 'DV avi' to mpeg2? I have tried Ligos-LSX
and avi2mpeg ver 1.59 with no success (they don't reqognize DV avi format)
thanks,
Aadu Adok,
Tallinn - Estonia
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:04:12 -0700
From: Aleksandr Milewski
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: PAL Analog-DV converter
Message-ID:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a PAL Analog to DV converter,
preferably one that is readily available in the US? It turns out that
despite a passing reference in the specs, the Formac Studio as sold
in the US isn't really PAL compatible. It does PAL, but only the
first 480 lines. ;)
So, I'm shopping for another converter. Spec sheets on these things
are thin, at best. The Sony DVMC-DA2 seems to be NTSC only. The
Dazzle Hollywood DV-Bridge does mention PAL (625/50), but I've heard
less than stellar things about it. And while I'd love to get a
DA-MAX, it's a little outside my budget right now.
Any suggestions for other brands? Has anyone used a Dazzle
successfully with PAL. Do you get real 720x576 PAL DV?
Thanks in advance,
Zandr
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Aleksandr Milewski N6MOD
n6mod@milewski.org http://www.milewski.org/
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:10:25 +0200
From: "Fox"
To:
Subject: RE: question about 'DV avi' format
Message-ID:
1/ DV avi is not lossless but the loss is very small=2E You can see some
alterations in the colors (it's due to DCT transform quantization and
rounding errors of computers)=2E The best DV codec is the Mainconcept one at
the moement=2E
2/ From Premiere, the best way is to istall AVIsynth scripting tool and
frame serve with TMPG (free) encoder=2E
You'll find readings at http://www=2Elabdv=2Ecom
We'll publish the Premiere 6 / AVIsynth frame serving article within the
newt 2 weeks I guess=2E
Fox
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Envoy=E9 : mercredi 1 ao=FBt 2001 08:08
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Objet : question about 'DV avi' format
hello,
two questions:
1) is it true that microsoft 'DV avi' format (saved in Premiere 6=2E01) hold=
s
100% of tape data, with no quality loss?
2) what is the best way to convert 'DV avi' to mpeg2? I have tried Ligos-LSX
and avi2mpeg ver 1=2E59 with no success (they don't reqognize DV avi format)
thanks,
Aadu Adok,
Tallinn - Estonia
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