DV-L Wed, 8 Aug 2001 Volume 1 : Number 941
In this issue:
Re: DV-L V1 #940
Calculating Drop Frame values
Calculating bit budgets in DVDit! 2.3 PE
Re: Calculating bit budgets in DVDit! 2.3 PE
Re: Calculating bit budgets in DVDit! 2.3 PE
Final Cut Pro 2..any feedback
Re: Mack Camera Extended Warranty
Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Re: DV into USB port?
Re: PINNACLE PRO ONE
Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
Re: DV-L V1 #940
Re: PINNACLE PRO ONE
Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Re: Calculating bit budgets in DVDit! 2.3 PE
Re: Canopus SloMo
Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Re: Projection TVs v. plasma, was The Idiots a ways back
Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Re: Canopus SloMo
Re: Projection TVs v. plasma, was The Idiots a ways back
Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
MyDVD not playing files
Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
RE: MyDVD not playing files
Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Sound Forge Batch Converter - It rocks!
I want to capture video using JLIP Conector in my JVC digital camcorder
Re: DV over Fast/Gig Ethernet on Mac?
Shotgun mics
Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Re: I want to capture video using JLIP Conector in my JVC digital camcorder
Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Re: I want to capture video using JLIP Conector in my JVC digital camcorder
Re: FCP - Speeding up footage
Re: Is there a way to check sound overload in Premiere/EditDV?
Re: Final Cut Pro 2..any feedback
Re: Hi8 -> DV
Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Re: DV over tcp/ip
Digital Beta Decks
Bargain PC vendor
Re: Digital Beta Decks
Re: Digital Beta Decks
Re: Digital Beta Decks
FCP - creating a clock
Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
abcdv.com news: Canopus DVRaptor-RT reviewed
Re:Audio Sync in P6
Re:Audio Sync in P6
RE: Digital Beta Decks
Sony VX-700
RE: Sony VX-700
RE: Sony VX-700
CANOPUS USER SURVEY
Re: Sony VX-700
Re: Sony VX-700
Re: Sony VX-700
Problems with a Panasonic PV-DV100 and Sony VAIO Digital Studio
Re: DV over tcp/ip
Suggestions For Learning Dreamweaver?
RE: Problems with a Panasonic PV-DV100 and Sony VAIO Digital Stud
io
Re: Sony VX-700
Re: Sony VX-700
OT: PVR sysdrive pooched..
OT: RE: Near Canada
Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
Re: CANOPUS USER SURVEY
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:45:52 -0700
From: Bill Davis
To:
Subject: Re: DV-L V1 #940
Message-ID:
> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 17:04:13 -0500
> From: "Stephen I. Sklar"
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Shotgun mics
> Message-ID: <3B6F145D.46EE263B@bellatlantic.net>
> Can anyone offer advice on what shotgun mics work best in an indoor
>interview > setting? I'll be shooting w/ an XL-1. I'm looking at the
>Sennheiser ME 66, ME > 62 and the Audio Technica AT 835
> or AT 815. Thanks much for any feedback.
> Steve Sklar
Dear Steve,
If I'm misunderstanding your situation here and there are good reasons for
using a shotgun on your interview - ignore this. If not, here's my 2
cents...
You've been given some excellent microphone options here. But please don't
forget that success is typically a bit about the mic and a LOT about the
technique with which you use it!
No matter how precise or accurate the microphone - what it will be picking
up is the sound of the speaker AND the characteristics of the ENVIRONMENT
that surrounds that person.
That's why it's usually impossible to give a simple answer to the "which
mic is best" question. If the room is harsh with lots of stone and glass,
and sounds hollow, a mic technique that minimizes the room and accentuates
the subjects voice might be important. A medium-sensitive lav might get you
better results in this situation than the best Schoeps on the planet.
OTOH, if the room is smaller, carpeted, draped, and full of cushy soft
furniture - such that the environment is relatively dead-sounding - a
shotgun or tight-pattern, sensitive cardiod with low self-noise at a bit of
a distance might sound wonderful.
The main advantage of a shotgun/boom rig over a lav is typically that you
get a more "realistic" sound since the boom picks up natural room sound
along with the subject. You single out voices without removing them from
the background ambience - and the results are very natural - perfect for
movies where you expect the people to be "in" the environmental sounds of
the space where they're acting.
For an "interview", however, it typically makes more sense to use a lav
since the camera and the viewers attention should be focused on the
subject, NOT the room and the usual placement of a lav close to the
speakers mouth emphasizes the words and de-emphasizes the room. (That darn
inescapable "rule of thirds" physics thing again!")
Hope this helps.
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Date: 07 Aug 2001 10:35:17 +0100
From: Bevis R W King
To: DV-l@dvcentral.org
Subject: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <997176917.4972.180.camel@terreis.ee.surrey.ac.uk>
Can some one give me the formula for calculating where Drop Frame
timecode will drop frames?
The application is that I need to feed a codec the length of a
programme in frames, and I know the value in hh:mm:ss:ff but that
doesn't quite work. (The length involved is typically approx
45 minutes aka 80,000 frames.)
This is NTSC of course, in PAL I wouldn't have this problem! :-)
Thanks!
Regards, Bevis.
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Date: 07 Aug 2001 10:46:24 +0100
From: Bevis R W King
To: DV-l@dvcentral.org
Subject: Calculating bit budgets in DVDit! 2.3 PE
Message-ID: <997177584.4018.181.camel@terreis.ee.surrey.ac.uk>
Does anyone have any experience on what the exact overhead is on the
most basic of menus in the likes of DVDit! I'm currently trying to
fit two 45 minute programmes onto a 4.7GB DVD-R (General) disc. My
first attempt at coding to MPEG-2 in VBR mode with an average bitrate
of 7.5Mb/sec produced a 2.4GB file. My second attempt using an
average of 6.5Mb/sec produced a 2.1GB file.
I'm wondering whether a third attempt at an average of 7.0Mb/sec is
worth a try with it's expected 2.25GB filesize. The audio has been
coded with AC3 and is coming out at 110MB per programme. Do I stand
a chance of getting 2 x 2.25GB (4.5) plus .22GB of audio onto a 4.7GB
disc?
Regards, Bevis.
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 00:09:11 -1000
From: Doc Del
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating bit budgets in DVDit! 2.3 PE
Message-ID: <3B6FBE47.5E2D0DAD@maui.net>
Bevis R W King wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience on what the exact overhead is on the
> most basic of menus in the likes of DVDit! I'm currently trying to
> fit two 45 minute programmes onto a 4.7GB DVD-R (General) disc. My
> first attempt at coding to MPEG-2 in VBR mode with an average bitrate
> of 7.5Mb/sec produced a 2.4GB file. My second attempt using an
> average of 6.5Mb/sec produced a 2.1GB file.
>
> I'm wondering whether a third attempt at an average of 7.0Mb/sec is
> worth a try with it's expected 2.25GB filesize. The audio has been
> coded with AC3 and is coming out at 110MB per programme. Do I stand
> a chance of getting 2 x 2.25GB (4.5) plus .22GB of audio onto a 4.7GB
> disc?
>
> Regards, Bevis.
No. You have to keep in mind that the maximum one can burn on a DVD-r disk is just a tad more than 4.3gigs. Try it at 6 to 6.5 with a small bit of video on a RW disk and see if the
quality is acceptable and the file size shrinks enough to meet the 4.3gig limit. I usually need to do this all the time as I am on a PC and don't have the equivelent of DVD Studio Pro
package(Mac) with their neat sliding scale and such in its Apple MPEG-2 exporter.
Brian Dellaport
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 00:16:01 -1000
From: Doc Del
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating bit budgets in DVDit! 2.3 PE
Message-ID: <3B6FBFE1.96460E5@maui.net>
My apologies! I guess I read too fast(late at night here) and missed that you have already tried encoding at 6.5Mb/sec. I think that is the best you will get with the end result being
just under 4.3gigs. Unless some else comes up with another solution that is....
Brian Dellaport
Bevis R W King wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience on what the exact overhead is on the
> most basic of menus in the likes of DVDit! I'm currently trying to
> fit two 45 minute programmes onto a 4.7GB DVD-R (General) disc. My
> first attempt at coding to MPEG-2 in VBR mode with an average bitrate
> of 7.5Mb/sec produced a 2.4GB file. My second attempt using an
> average of 6.5Mb/sec produced a 2.1GB file.
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:59:16 +0100
From: Peter Melly
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: Final Cut Pro 2..any feedback
Message-ID: <356AB6B3BF91D1119AF10000F8C2660F03959EC0@nibhxu01.be.bbc.co.uk>
Hi all
I would appreciate any feedback from users who are using Final Cut Pro 2,
all comments welcome good or bad.
I have upgraded two machines but I'm having a few problems running the
software.
Many Thanks
> Peter Melly
> Broadcast Engineer, [Engineering]
> BBC Northern Ireland
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 05:22:30 -0600
From: "Nancy L. Spoolman"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Mack Camera Extended Warranty
Message-ID:
>It seems it has come time for me to send my PD-150 into Mack Camera for it's
>annual check-up in order to keep the extended warranty up. Yes, I spent the
>money for the extended warranty.
>
>Does anyone have any experience with Mack ? My camera seems to be working
>pretty well and I'm sure I haven't put 100 hours on it yet.
I sent mine in to Mack Camera for the first time two months ago. It
was returned 3 weeks later. Had some problems with the front threads
where my collapsible rubber hood goes on the UV filter, and the
manual focus hanging, but I think it's my UV filter so bought another
to test. I think their turn around is acceptable.
--
Nanc
"Sorrow looks back. Worry looks around. Faith looks UP!"
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 07:40:54 -0400
From: beachtv
To:
Subject: Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
Message-ID:
> for no apparent reason will turn white after render.
I had a similar problem - I was editing programs in FCP, then exporting to
MPEG2 (from within FCP). I got a white flash at the end of each clip. The
workaround that I discovered - export the FCP movie as a quicktime file via
reference from FCP (uncheck "make move self contained"); then open the FCP
reference movie in QT Player and export to MPEG from there. Don't know why,
but no more white flashes.
I also found adding a 1 second of black "pad' to the beginning & end of the
program helped make for smoother playback (when authored to DVD).
Good luck!
Aaron
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:38:42 -0400
From: "Marco Henry"
To:
Subject: Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Message-ID: <000c01c11f3d$e4379ac0$1c250942@musemachine>
>We get almost exclusively widescreen TVs here. Many companies have
>actually dropped 4x3 altogether from their ranges. Decent large
>screen sets are still really hard to come by here and cost a lot more
>than their US counterparts. I recently bought a Toshiba 46" 16:9 RPTV
>with component in (the only type on the market here with that feature)
>and it set me back around US$3,500. I'm sure you could get a similar
>set in the US for half that figure. :-(
>
>Regards, Bevis.
Oddly, though, it's far cheaper in the UK to buy a large (32"+) widescreen
direct view TV than it is here in the US. I moved to New York about 18
months ago and was looking for a 34-36" 16:9 CRT TV like my old roomie in
London bought just before I left (a JVC). He bought his for GBP 900 (USD
1300). Here in the US, there are only a couple of TVs like it on sale, and
they are around the USD 3000 mark.
Here in the US they seem much more gung-ho for projection TVs, which I don't
like due to the restricted viewing angles. The UK 16:9 TVs are all capable
of handling NTSC too... kind of a strange example of where the US consumer
market is behind the UK one.
Re: DVD players - yes, most of the UK DVD players can be hacked to play NTSC
(either through 'secret' keystrokes on the remote or through chip upgrades.)
I used to buy all my DVDs from the US. Getting US equipment to accept PAL is
a far trickier proposition, as I have discovered to my chagrin.
Marco
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 02:59:14 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV into USB port?
Message-ID: <3B6FE621.8F5A1F0B@maui.net>
Al Warren wrote:
> Sorry guys - I was getting psyched that I actually had
> some help of offer for a change...
>
> --- Dick Lague wrote:
> > and I was getting excited that I could use USB to
> > download DV!!!!
> >
Al, don't worry. With your good attitude of wanting to help, I'll always be ready to read what you have to say. We're ALL here to learn.
The only USB device I have is a scanner which works pretty well, but no where near the speed of firewire.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:17:57 -0400
From: "Gary Bettan, The Electronic Mailbox"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: PINNACLE PRO ONE
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010807091240.03d13320@pop3.concentric.net>
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At 09:55 PM 8/6/01 -0700, you wrote:
>HAS anyone got any information on this new DV product?
>
>It is on the Pinnacle site and the Video Guys site, but I have not heard
>any insight from others.
We were given a 'closed door' look at Pro-ONE. So did several other key
dealers and integrators (Ken & Alexi got an even more in depth demo) .
There are some really amazing, breakthrough features in this product. It is
a quantum leap from current real-time cards.
Yes I agree, if it had real-time DV out it would be even better. But if it
did I wouldn't be able to sell any other products ;-)
According to Pinnacle, we are supposed to get our eval boards this week.
Pro-one is scheduled to ship end of August (we'll see). We are now taking
pre-orders.
Gary
>
>Dick
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At 09:55 PM 8/6/01 -0700, you wrote:
HAS anyone got any information on this new DV product?
It is on the Pinnacle site and the Video Guys site, but I have not heard any insight from others.
We were given a 'closed door' look at Pro-ONE. So did several other key dealers and integrators (Ken & Alexi got an even more in depth demo) . There are some really amazing, breakthrough features in this product. It is a quantum leap from current real-time cards.
Yes I agree, if it had real-time DV out it would be even better. But if it did I wouldn't be able to sell any other products ;-)
According to Pinnacle, we are supposed to get our eval boards this week. Pro-one is scheduled to ship end of August (we'll see). We are now taking pre-orders.
Gary
Dick
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:23:09 -0400
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010807092039.032d8e98@mail.verizon.net>
http://www.runway.com/timecode.html
No frames are actually dropped - only the frame count. Dunno exactly what
you're doing ('feed a codec'?), but there should be an easier way. Any
modern NLE will allow you to simply drop a clip on a timeline and trim it
visually any way you want.
At 05:35 AM 8/7/2001, you wrote:
>Can some one give me the formula for calculating where Drop Frame
>timecode will drop frames?
>
>The application is that I need to feed a codec the length of a
>programme in frames, and I know the value in hh:mm:ss:ff but that
>doesn't quite work. (The length involved is typically approx
>45 minutes aka 80,000 frames.)
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:34:01 -0400
From: Kevin O'Hanlon
To:
Subject: Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
Message-ID:
Hi Aaron,
Thanks for getting back to me. My problem is a little different from the
scenario you describe. The MPEGs I'm working with go white in FCP. Parts
or sometimes the whole clip just go white, sometimes even after rendering.
I'm just plodding through it to see if I can piece it together enough so I
can get a reference out of it and into Media Cleaner Pro.
Many thanks and warm regards,
K.
----------------
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Videographer/Director
119 East 60th Street
New York, New York 10022
212.319.6135
917.626-6356
Fax: 419.828.5735
> From: beachtv
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 07:40:54 -0400
> To:
> Subject: Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
>
>> for no apparent reason will turn white after render.
>
> I had a similar problem - I was editing programs in FCP, then exporting to
> MPEG2 (from within FCP). I got a white flash at the end of each clip. The
> workaround that I discovered - export the FCP movie as a quicktime file via
> reference from FCP (uncheck "make move self contained"); then open the FCP
> reference movie in QT Player and export to MPEG from there. Don't know why,
> but no more white flashes.
>
> I also found adding a 1 second of black "pad' to the beginning & end of the
> program helped make for smoother playback (when authored to DVD).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Aaron
>
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:28:06 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Message-ID: <3B6FECE6.CA655721@sympatico.ca>
Marco Henry wrote:
>
> >We get almost exclusively widescreen TVs here. Many companies have
> >actually dropped 4x3 altogether from their ranges. Decent large
> >screen sets are still really hard to come by here and cost a lot more
> >than their US counterparts. I recently bought a Toshiba 46" 16:9 RPTV
> >with component in (the only type on the market here with that feature)
> >and it set me back around US$3,500. I'm sure you could get a similar
> >set in the US for half that figure. :-(
> >
> >Regards, Bevis.
>
> Oddly, though, it's far cheaper in the UK to buy a large (32"+) widescreen
> direct view TV than it is here in the US. I moved to New York about 18
> months ago and was looking for a 34-36" 16:9 CRT TV like my old roomie in
> London bought just before I left (a JVC). He bought his for GBP 900 (USD
> 1300). Here in the US, there are only a couple of TVs like it on sale, and
> they are around the USD 3000 mark.
The reason for the price differential is that the widescreen sets sold
here are HiDef (usually 1080i) and also include line-doublers for
standard NTSC. Given their multi-scan capability, I consider it
unfortunate that they don't also display PAL, though I discovered
yesterday when I connected my PAL DVD player to my Sony XBR400 using
component inputs that the color signal was being accepted (which really
surprised me), though the vertical hold was impossible and I couldn't
find any adjustments in the service menu (as I'd been told) to enable
proper display.
> Here in the US they seem much more gung-ho for projection TVs, which I don't
> like due to the restricted viewing angles.
Me too. I'd take one as a gift, but would never consider paying actual
money for one of those things!
> The UK 16:9 TVs are all capable
> of handling NTSC too... kind of a strange example of where the US consumer
> market is behind the UK one.
It's because there is no perceived need for PAL capability over here.
But there is a lot of stuff released on PAL VHS and DVD that likely
won't find its way here for a long time, if ever, and many people have
friends and families in Europe who would like to send home videos;
conversions are always an option, but the cheaper ones look pretty
tacky.
> Re: DVD players - yes, most of the UK DVD players can be hacked to play NTSC
> (either through 'secret' keystrokes on the remote or through chip upgrades.)
> I used to buy all my DVDs from the US. Getting US equipment to accept PAL is
> a far trickier proposition, as I have discovered to my chagrin.
Most of the multi-standard 'hacked' DVD players sold here are Asian or
Euro models; since these normally output PAL and NTSC, they only need to
be hacked to get rid of the region code restrictions.
Charles
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:47:00 -0400
From: beachtv
To:
Subject: Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
Message-ID:
> The MPEGs I'm working with go white in FCP
So you're working with the MPEGs in FCP? Never tried that - I'll have to
give it a whirl. Probably still has something to do with Apple's MPEG
codec... I'd try posting your question to the 2-pop FCP and/or DVD board -
www.2-pop.com (if you haven't already).
Good luck!
Aaron
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 04:04:05 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV-L V1 #940
Message-ID: <3B6FF554.4AF809EC@maui.net>
Bill Davis wrote:
> If the room is harsh with lots of stone and glass,
> and sounds hollow, a mic technique that minimizes the room and accentuates
> the subjects voice might be important. A medium-sensitive lav might get you
> better results in this situation than the best Schoeps on the planet.
>
> OTOH, if the room is smaller, carpeted, draped, and full of cushy soft
> furniture - such that the environment is relatively dead-sounding - a
> shotgun or tight-pattern, sensitive cardiod with low self-noise at a bit of
> a distance might sound wonderful.
>
Excellent advice Bill. I would prefer to have a lav on a person if at all possible for just the reasons you describe. Too often we get caught up in the technical specifications of mikes
and forget about the acoustics of the rooms in which we are recording. By the way, I've been doing this stuff for a little over 50 years.
My advice to Steve and his XL1? Get a couple of fairly good wireless UHF lavs with diversity receivers in the $600 to $700 price range like Audio Technica U100 series, Azden 400 UDR (which
I use) or maybe the Samson VM-1.
If you're really on a tight budget, the VHF mikes (like the Nady 151 VR or 351 VR series) will work but have less range and are far more susceptible to interference from other radio
signals. Or even wired lavs if you can't afford wireless.
Steve, on your XL1 you can run in the 12 bit mode and use the on camera mike into Stereo1 (channels 1 and 2). You can then feed your two lav mikes into Stereo2 (channels 3 & 4) with the
small RCA jacks on the SIDE of the handle of the camera. This way, you have the on camera mike sound which will pickup all the room presence you could want along with general room sound.
The lavs can be placed on people or taped to the mike on a speaker's stand, etc. for good sound pickup from important areas of the room. This gives you three different sound sources to
choose from or to mix together.
Of course, your editing system must be able to capture both the video and sound from both Stereo1 (channels 1 and 2) and Stereo2 (channels 3 & 4).
Again, there is certainly nothing wrong with using good shotgun mikes if you have the staff and room conditions warrant it. I've just been describing the way I choose to do it.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 06:56:16 -0700
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: PINNACLE PRO ONE
Message-ID: <000f01c11f48$ba977900$0400a8c0@speedsterii>
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Gary,
Thanks for the answer. We have a DV-500 and like it. This product =
seems to be a big advancement.
Keep us posted.
Dick
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gary Bettan, The Electronic Mailbox=20
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: PINNACLE PRO ONE
At 09:55 PM 8/6/01 -0700, you wrote:
HAS anyone got any information on this new DV product?
=20
It is on the Pinnacle site and the Video Guys site, but I have not =
heard any insight from others.
We were given a 'closed door' look at Pro-ONE. So did several other =
key dealers and integrators (Ken & Alexi got an even more in depth demo) =
. There are some really amazing, breakthrough features in this product. =
It is a quantum leap from current real-time cards.=20
Yes I agree, if it had real-time DV out it would be even better. But =
if it did I wouldn't be able to sell any other products ;-)
According to Pinnacle, we are supposed to get our eval boards this =
week. Pro-one is scheduled to ship end of August (we'll see). We are now =
taking pre-orders.=20
Gary
Dick
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Gary,
Thanks for the answer. We have a = DV-500 and=20 like it. This product seems to be a big advancement.
Keep us posted.
Dick
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At 09:55 PM 8/6/01 -0700, you wrote:
HAS anyone=20 got any information on this new DV = product?
It is on the Pinnacle site and the Video Guys = site, but I=20 have not heard any insight from others.
We = were given a=20 'closed door' look at Pro-ONE. So did several other key dealers and=20 integrators (Ken & Alexi got an even more in depth demo) . There = are some=20 really amazing, breakthrough features in this product. It is a quantum = leap=20 from current real-time cards.
Yes I agree, if it had real-time = DV out=20 it would be even better. But if it did I wouldn't be able to sell any = other=20 products ;-)
According to Pinnacle, we are supposed to get our = eval=20 boards this week. Pro-one is scheduled to ship end of August (we'll = see). We=20 are now taking pre-orders.
Gary
Dick
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:32:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <200108071432.f77EWe624311@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
Bevis posted:
>Can some one give me the formula for calculating where Drop Frame
>timecode will drop frames?
>
>The application is that I need to feed a codec the length of a
>programme in frames, and I know the value in hh:mm:ss:ff but that
>doesn't quite work. (The length involved is typically approx
>45 minutes aka 80,000 frames.)
Every minute you drop two frames, except at 0 and every 10. So, for
every 10 minutes you've dropped 18 frames.
MB
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:36:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating bit budgets in DVDit! 2.3 PE
Message-ID: <200108071436.f77Earc24357@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>My apologies! I guess I read too fast(late at night here) and missed that you have already tried encoding at 6.5Mb/sec. I think that is the best you will get with the end result being
>just under 4.3gigs. Unless some else comes up with another solution that is....
>
>Brian Dellaport
But, DVDit! will tell you if your project is too big when it try to compile
it.
MB
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:45:11 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: Canopus SloMo
Message-ID: <54C0F906036@vilas.uwex.edu>
Gregg wrote:
>The Avid Xpress DV version 2 uses a licensed Canopus codec, so
in this
case would the Canopus Slo-Mo work?<
Dunno, but there's one way to find out, and in any event, it's free.
Go for it.
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:48:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <200108071448.f77EmVM24448@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>http://www.runway.com/timecode.html
>
>No frames are actually dropped - only the frame count. Dunno exactly what
>you're doing ('feed a codec'?), but there should be an easier way. Any
>modern NLE will allow you to simply drop a clip on a timeline and trim it
>visually any way you want.
Interesting article, but the author totally failed to tell the reader
exactly what happens when the count is changed.
MB
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:50:15 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: Projection TVs v. plasma, was The Idiots a ways back
Message-ID: <54C25654DD7@vilas.uwex.edu>
There was a fascinating article on plasma displays in eMedia
magazine a few months back; it pointed out that they are just
about the most fragile things you could have in your house, and
that for their size they eat up a LOT of power and give off a
considerable amount of heat.
Still, it's tempting. I hate RPTVs too.
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:53:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Message-ID: <200108071453.f77ErSs24478@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>The reason for the price differential is that the widescreen sets sold
>here are HiDef (usually 1080i) and also include line-doublers for
>standard NTSC. Given their multi-scan capability, I consider it
>unfortunate that they don't also display PAL, though I discovered
>yesterday when I connected my PAL DVD player to my Sony XBR400 using
>component inputs that the color signal was being accepted (which really
>surprised me), though the vertical hold was impossible and I couldn't
>find any adjustments in the service menu (as I'd been told) to enable
>proper display.
Why shouldn't the component color have worked... it isn't NTSC or PAL?
>Most of the multi-standard 'hacked' DVD players sold here are Asian or
>Euro models; since these normally output PAL and NTSC, they only need to
>be hacked to get rid of the region code restrictions.
MB
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 05:08:07 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Canopus SloMo
Message-ID: <3B700457.3FD7D52A@maui.net>
"Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503" wrote:
> Gregg wrote:
>
> >The Avid Xpress DV version 2 uses a licensed Canopus codec, so
> in this
> case would the Canopus Slo-Mo work?<
>
> Dunno, but there's one way to find out, and in any event, it's free.
> Go for it.
>
Also, Bruce, Canopus has a free file converter to convert all Microsoft DV files to Canopus. He might need that. I dunno neither.
Let us know Gregg. We're waiting with bated breath!
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 05:14:46 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Projection TVs v. plasma, was The Idiots a ways back
Message-ID: <3B7005E6.2B6468D0@maui.net>
"Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503" wrote:
> There was a fascinating article on plasma displays in eMedia
> magazine a few months back; it pointed out that they are just
> about the most fragile things you could have in your house, and
> that for their size they eat up a LOT of power and give off a
> considerable amount of heat.
>
> Still, it's tempting. I hate RPTVs too.
>
Me too. I had one of those 52" jobies. Some little IC in the damn thing went out. Cost a fortune to get it hauled to the service center, they had it three months only to find out the IC
couldn't be replaced. Never again.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:25:25 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Message-ID: <3B700865.E44D67A6@sympatico.ca>
Vidiot wrote:
>
> >The reason for the price differential is that the widescreen sets sold
> >here are HiDef (usually 1080i) and also include line-doublers for
> >standard NTSC. Given their multi-scan capability, I consider it
> >unfortunate that they don't also display PAL, though I discovered
> >yesterday when I connected my PAL DVD player to my Sony XBR400 using
> >component inputs that the color signal was being accepted (which really
> >surprised me), though the vertical hold was impossible and I couldn't
> >find any adjustments in the service menu (as I'd been told) to enable
> >proper display.
>
> Why shouldn't the component color have worked... it isn't NTSC or PAL?
I was surprised as I'd heard there was a service menu mod that enabled
PAL display, but only in black and white.
It would be great if a firmware upgrade to enable PAL display were
available. I suspect it would be pretty easy and not even that
expensive, but Sony propably doesn't want to do it because of the DVD
region code business, which is directly related to Sony's interests in
movie production.
Charles
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:44:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Message-ID: <200108071544.f77Fi4n24823@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>I was surprised as I'd heard there was a service menu mod that enabled
>PAL display, but only in black and white.
Ah, I'll bet that was for the composite input.
>It would be great if a firmware upgrade to enable PAL display were
>available. I suspect it would be pretty easy and not even that
>expensive, but Sony propably doesn't want to do it because of the DVD
>region code business, which is directly related to Sony's interests in
>movie production.
The stupid thing is that the horizontal frequency isn't that far apart.
The vertical rate is the one that is different enough. Too bad that it
wouldn't lock on it and resize vertically.
MB
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:18:12 -0400
From: Yves Casavant
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: MyDVD not playing files
Message-ID: <3B7014C4.E94B04DB@sympatico.ca>
I just bought a Pionneer DVR-A03 and it comes with MyDVD. When I want to
play the demo files it says like: "the application MyDVD could not find
the appropiate decoder for""." Be sure that you got a valid decoder.
What's that mean? I run it with a Matrox DigiSuite LE. What do I need to
play the files?
Yves Casavant
yves@videokom.qc.ca
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:29:24 -0400
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010807122801.01e40108@mail.verizon.net>
I'll bite. What 'actually' happens when the count is changed? Other than
the count changing, of course?
> >http://www.runway.com/timecode.html
>Interesting article, but the author totally failed to tell the reader
>exactly what happens when the count is changed.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:42:09 -0700
From: "Mark Franklin - Media Magic"
To:
Subject: RE: MyDVD not playing files
Message-ID:
Hi Yves, I don't have an answer for you, but just wanted to say (fellow
Canadian :-)) that I also have a digisuiteLE and just bought an AO3 and a
MAX card. I haven't broken the seal on the box yet, will do so today :-)
Have you tried the Matrox Support Forum? I know this isn't a Matrox problem
but lots of people there are using this stuff.
This bulletin board is located at
http://forum.matrox.com/cgi-bin/digiforum/Ultimate.cgi
I just bought a Pionneer DVR-A03 and it comes with MyDVD. When I want to
play the demo files it says like: "the application MyDVD could not find
the appropiate decoder for""." Be sure that you got a valid decoder.
What's that mean? I run it with a Matrox DigiSuite LE. What do I need to
play the files?
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:54:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <200108071654.f77GsDN25266@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>I'll bite. What 'actually' happens when the count is changed? Other than
>the count changing, of course?
For every minute the count jumps from 29 frames to 02 frames, skipping
frames 00 and 01. No, it isn't three frames that are skipped. You are really
jumping from the instantaneous start of frame 00 to the instantaneous start of
frame 02. Except that this does not happen every 10 minutes. So, for every
10 minutes, 18 frames are removed from the count, since only 9 minutes are
actually "jumped."
Even then it is a little off. For example, if a segment is 8:59:29 DFTC,
it is really near 9:00:02. As soon as you add one frame to the end, it will
jump to 9:00:02. You normally do not have to worry about it, as there is
enough slack in "the system." If it is aired, the master control room
computers work out all the differences in the DFTC of the stuff aired anyway.
MB
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:56:40 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Message-ID: <3B701DC8.923B5B42@sympatico.ca>
Vidiot wrote:
>
> >I was surprised as I'd heard there was a service menu mod that enabled
> >PAL display, but only in black and white.
>
> Ah, I'll bet that was for the composite input.
>
> >It would be great if a firmware upgrade to enable PAL display were
> >available. I suspect it would be pretty easy and not even that
> >expensive, but Sony propably doesn't want to do it because of the DVD
> >region code business, which is directly related to Sony's interests in
> >movie production.
>
> The stupid thing is that the horizontal frequency isn't that far apart.
> The vertical rate is the one that is different enough. Too bad that it
> wouldn't lock on it and resize vertically.
I've been told the more recent chips now lock onto base frequency for
both NTSC and PAL.
A week or two ago I also fed my PAL VCR, using composite input, to my
older XBR100. The 100 locked onto the frame rate (no rolling), but
there was no color, the picture was horizontally pushed downward
chopping off the bottom of the frame and displaying the blanking
interval, and there were a lot of other artifacts which, however, I
suspect a component input (which the 100 lacks) would avoid.
I'm going to ask my calibration technician to ask some of his ISF
friends (including the top guys, Joe Kane and Joel Silver) to see if a
mod is possible. Even before DVD was introduced, when writing about
initial technical info Mr. Kane was saying that if MPEG can easily store
NTSC _or_ PAL and would be storing film-sourced material for both
formats at 24 fps (with format flags to indicate speedup to 25 fps for
PAL, or the 3:2 pulldown for NTSC), he felt hardware manufacturers
should be looking at ways to decode DVDs at 576 active lines (the 720p
HDTV format, in fact, is only 20% higher vertical resolution than PAL's
576).
Since the line doubler ("Digital Reality Creation") for the XBR400
doesn't do the 3:2 pulldown it's more likely to be PAL-friendly than the
upgraded DRC (with pulldown) in the followup XBR450 sets and the 40"
XBR700 due in a month or two -- though I suspect the XBR400's inability
to lock onto the PAL DVD player may be in part related to the additional
processing done by DRC.
Alternatively, I'd consider having the XBR100 modified for PAL or
multistandard. The tube is the same Super Trinitron also used (but
smaller) for the PVM-2950Q which is multistandard. If it's possible to
replace the 100's circuitry with that for the 2950 (or even PAL-only
chips), this would be tremendous.
We'll see......
Charles
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:17:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
Message-ID: <200108071717.f77HHFx25455@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>A week or two ago I also fed my PAL VCR, using composite input, to my
>older XBR100. The 100 locked onto the frame rate (no rolling), but
>there was no color, the picture was horizontally pushed downward
>chopping off the bottom of the frame and displaying the blanking
>interval, and there were a lot of other artifacts which, however, I
>suspect a component input (which the 100 lacks) would avoid.
Component would have only gotten you color. The vertical sizing would
still have been wrong.
>Charles
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:43:28 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: Sound Forge Batch Converter - It rocks!
Message-ID: <000c01c11f68$793179f0$4423a8c0@dell420>
I am not an employee of Sonic Foundry, but there is a gem in Sound Forge
5.0. The 5.0 batch converter is amazing, fast utility for applying file
conversion, Direct X plugins etc. to large numbers of files.
I needed to run the DeNoiser Direct X plugin with a custom preset on 447
files and was dreading the task. But I discovered that Batch Converter will
let me do this by simply selecting the files, choosing the plugin and
preset, then click convert. I can save this action as a script for later
use. I could have even changed file format, sample rate and bit depth as
well.
It is also screamingly fast. On a dual 1 Ghz Dell box (running Win2K), it
DeNoised all 447 files in 33 minutes (8.9 GB of 48K 16bit stereo files)
while I continued to work on the machine.
If you are PC based and do a lot of audio post, very recommended tool.
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to free your
heart."
-Homer Simpson
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:43:57 -0500
From: "fito_ slp"
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: I want to capture video using JLIP Conector in my JVC digital camcorder
Message-ID:
I have a JVC GR-DVF10U and the only DV-out tha it have is the JLIP
connector, so i am wondering if you can help me to capture images from my
JVC to my PC.
Thanks in advance
fito_slp
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:39:33 -0700
From: Kevin Marks
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV over Fast/Gig Ethernet on Mac?
Message-ID:
At 10:52 AM -0700 8/2/01, Adam Wilt wrote:
> > Moving DV clips over networks is feasible, but is likely going to
>> take longer than capturing them in the first place as even 100baseT
>> at max efficiency is only about 3x DV data rates.
>
>And I'm not even seeing 1x over Gigabit Ethernet on the Mac. What am I doing
>wrong?
>
>Situation: Two G4/500DPs running OS 9.1, connected back-to-back using Gigabit
>Ethernet, so there's no other traffic on the link. ASP confirms the link is up
>& running at 1 Gig, full duplex.
>
>File transfers between the machines run 2.6 to 2.8 Mbytes/sec whether I'm
>running AppleTalk or DAVE over TCP/IP. This is goofy: I should be able to see
>around 40-80 Mbytes/sec throughput if GigE were the limiting factor. Heck,
>even 100Base (Fast Ethernet) should give me 4 Mbytes/sec or better; I have a
>Canopus-using buddy who routinely captures across the network using Fast
>Ethernet, without dropped frames.
>
>Both machines have IBM deskstars and can do same-disk file copies (i.e.,
>duplicate file) at 15 Mbytes/sec (read and write combined), so the disks
>aren't the problem. Enabling/disabling the 802.3 checkbox doesn't make a
>substantial difference.
>
>Anyone have a magic bullet for me?
I'm told the AppleShare IP server is much better than Personal
Filesharing at filling the gigabit ethernet connection.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:51:16 -0500
From: "Stephen I. Sklar"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Shotgun mics
Message-ID: <3B7038A4.29494D4@bellatlantic.net>
Dear list,
Thanks to all for the great feedback. You've given me a lot of info to consider.
Steve Sklar
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:51:56 -0400
From: Joe Parker
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010807135018.01e39860@mail.verizon.net>
Right. So in other words, nothing 'happens' except the count changes.
> >I'll bite. What 'actually' happens when the count is changed? Other than
> >the count changing, of course?
>
>For every minute the count jumps from 29 frames to 02 frames, skipping
>frames 00 and 01. No, it isn't three frames that are skipped. You are really
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:56:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: I want to capture video using JLIP Conector in my JVC digital camcorder
Message-ID: <200108071756.f77Hu2q26269@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>I have a JVC GR-DVF10U and the only DV-out tha it have is the JLIP
>connector, so i am wondering if you can help me to capture images from my
>JVC to my PC.
What is a JLIP connector?
MB
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:56:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <200108071756.f77HuVa26283@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>Right. So in other words, nothing 'happens' except the count changes.
Correct.
MB
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:03:19 -0500
From: "fito_ slp"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: I want to capture video using JLIP Conector in my JVC digital camcorder
Message-ID:
It's a special protocol that comes with some JVC digital camcorders, but
most of the people don't know anything about it.
>From: Vidiot
>Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
>To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
>Subject: Re: I want to capture video using JLIP Conector in my JVC digital
>camcorder
>Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:56:02 -0500 (CDT)
>
> >I have a JVC GR-DVF10U and the only DV-out tha it have is the JLIP
> >connector, so i am wondering if you can help me to capture images from my
> >JVC to my PC.
>
>What is a JLIP connector?
>
>MB
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:18:08 -0700
From: Eric Bin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: FCP - Speeding up footage
On Friday, August 3, 2001, at 06:37 PM, Brad Carter wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> I sound like you trying to make the clip longer and but since it's already
> in the timeline with in and out points the clip is running out of room to
> be extended. Try to make sure you don't have any video clips after the
> clip your trying to scale. If you do then go to the source clip and do
> your time scale there, then 'fill to fit' the time stretched clip into the
> timeline.
Hmm...this is what I'm doing:
1. Have clip about 2 minutes long - want to take a snippet (say 20 seconds)
and make it 10 seconds long.
2. Set an in point in clip
3. Drag clip to timeline.
4. Alter duration to about 20 seconds.
5. Change speed to 200 percent.
6. Get error: "Unable to complete command. A conflict occurred during a
trim operation"
I quite often speed up footage and have never encountered this problem
before - I even have clips right now on the timeline that went through this
process without the error. Have I been doing this all wrong?
thanks,
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:16:14 -0400
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: Is there a way to check sound overload in Premiere/EditDV?
Message-ID: <011001c11f6d$4f311e80$6401a8c0@cfl.rr.com>
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Rich,
I'm sorry for the delay but I wanted to check some things out before I =
replied so I didn't give you bad data. I don't generally have to do much =
work to audio that is part of the video stream but rather I have to work =
with audio from a different source and then sync them in post. The net =
result is that I'm working with smaller files which process and copy =
faster but the technique is the same. I verified this on my DVRexRT =
system.
There is no way that I know of to normalize the whole timeline at one =
time. If you had a directx audio plugin it might work but I haven't =
tried it. You can however make whatever adjustments are necessary one =
clip at a time. I try to prepare all of the clips I'm going to use in =
advance. Color correction, heavy compositing, and major sound work such =
as compression, noise reduction, EQ, and normalization are done before =
importing to Premiere. As far as audio sweetening is concerned Sound =
Forge will open the avi files (2 gigs or less) without any problems. =
After you've finished save the files with the processed audio and open =
it in Premiere just like any other clip.
I've found that if I can break a large project up into smaller =
sub-projects Premiere works better. Each sub-project is handled as a =
separate Premiere project and the output of each one is a finished clip. =
The final project is a Premiere project made up of all of these =
sub-project clips with continuous music and or effects for the whole =
project. It would be nice if Premiere could handle unlimited numbers of =
clips plus filters, effects, etc. but it can't at least not with the =
current day computer hardware. Finding a balance and method to most =
efficiently use the tools we have is far more productive than whining =
about what doesn't work so that's the approach I use.
Good luck with your project,
Walt
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rich Rosen=20
To: dvl=20
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 10:04 PM
Subject: Is there a way to check sound overload in Premiere/EditDV?
Walt:
Can you please list step-by-step how you normalize audio over an =
entire Premiere project using Sound Forge and Premiere. I'm shooting =
documentary and levels vary widely. Thanks.=20
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Rich,
I'm sorry for the delay but I wanted to = check some=20 things out before I replied so I didn't give you bad data. I don't = generally=20 have to do much work to audio that is part of the video stream but = rather I have=20 to work with audio from a different source and then sync them in post. = The net=20 result is that I'm working with smaller files which process and copy = faster but=20 the technique is the same. I verified this on my DVRexRT = system.
There is no way that I know of to = normalize the=20 whole timeline at one time. If you had a directx audio plugin it = might work=20 but I haven't tried it. You can however make whatever adjustments = are=20 necessary one clip at a time. I try to prepare all of the clips I'm = going to use=20 in advance. Color correction, heavy compositing, and major sound work = such as=20 compression, noise reduction, EQ, and normalization are done before = importing to=20 Premiere. As far as audio sweetening is concerned Sound Forge will open = the avi=20 files (2 gigs or less) without any problems. After you've finished save = the=20 files with the processed audio and open it in Premiere just like = any other=20 clip.
I've found that if I can break a large = project up=20 into smaller sub-projects Premiere works better. Each sub-project is = handled as=20 a separate Premiere project and the output of each one is a finished = clip. The=20 final project is a Premiere project made up of all of these sub-project = clips=20 with continuous music and or effects for the whole project. It would be = nice if=20 Premiere could handle unlimited numbers of clips plus filters, effects, = etc. but=20 it can't at least not with the current day computer hardware. Finding a = balance=20 and method to most efficiently use the tools we have is far more = productive than=20 whining about what doesn't work so that's the approach I = use.
Good luck with your = project,
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rich Rosen
To: dvl
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 = 10:04=20 PM
Subject: Is there a way to = check sound=20 overload in Premiere/EditDV?
Walt:
Can you please list step-by-step how = you=20 normalize audio over an entire Premiere project using Sound = Forge=20 and Premiere. I'm shooting documentary and levels vary widely. Thanks. =
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:38:55 -0700
From: Daniel Krause
To: DV List
Subject: Re: Final Cut Pro 2..any feedback
Message-ID:
I am using FCP2 successfully, though it seems a little more demanding of
resources than its predecessor. I would go into details if I thought it
might help you, but I don't know what problems you are having.
Does the BBC post-production environment need an American? I'm willing to
relocate and I get weary of the constant good weather in Southern
California.
On 8/7/01 3:59 AM, "Peter Melly" wrote:
> I would appreciate any feedback from users who are using Final Cut Pro 2,
> all comments welcome good or bad.
>
> I have upgraded two machines but I'm having a few problems running the
> software.
>
> Many Thanks
>
>
>> Peter Melly
>> Broadcast Engineer, [Engineering]
>> BBC Northern Ireland
>>
>> * Work: 028 903 38785
>> * Mobile: 07808 586483
>> * Fax: 028 903 38980
>> * Room 501, BBC Belfast, Ormeau Avenue, Belfast, BT2 8HQ
>> * mailto:Peter.Melly@bbc.co.uk
>> * http://www.bbc.co.uk/ni
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:35:05 +0200
From: "Guenter Huber"
To: "DV L"
Subject: Re: Hi8 -> DV
Message-ID: <000801c11f72$69093b30$7b3e1e0a@GY>
>>and it's getting even weirder! I've found I can't get Hi8 audio even
through the analog cable.
Don?t remember the exact specs, but isn?t there a longitudinal audio and a
video-track integrated one (with different bit depths?) on V8/Hi8. Could
this be the crux?
Greetings
G
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:05:47 -1000
From: Jon Burkhart
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Calculating Drop Frame values
Message-ID: <3B703C0B.6FD87B3B@maui.net>
Vidiot wrote:
> >Right. So in other words, nothing 'happens' except the count changes.
>
> Correct.
>
Well, it depends on your definition of "nothing". Let me get our former president on the phone and get his definition of "nothing happened" ;^)
Sorry, I guess I just don't have enough to do today.
Aloha,
Jon Burkhart
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Douglas White
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV over tcp/ip
Message-ID: <20010807201032.89332.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Vahan,
I don't know exactly what product you're referring to.
However, my company makes a high-bandwidth video
server (called 'OVS') that streams MPEG2-encoded
content.
I'd be interested to here more about a product that
can packetize DV data and stream it over tcp/ip.
--Doug
--- Vahan Yerkanian wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I remember back at 1999 there was group showing on
> NAB and INET'99 their system
> to pump DV stream in realtime from any source over
> TCP/IP networks, and get it
> back
> on the other side. Can some one guide me in the
> correct direction to find this
> people? I really need this project for one of our
> clients to retransmit a tv
> channel
> from Europe to USA.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> --
> Vahan Yerkanian
> vp.technical@abideweb.com
> Vice President, Design & Development
> Website @ http://www.abideweb.com/
> AbideWeb Technologies, LLC Phone +3741
> 238650 | Mobile +3749 416358
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:20:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Douglas White
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Digital Beta Decks
Message-ID: <20010807202009.11792.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi,
I'm shopping for decks. I know that Sony decks are
great, but they cost 50K. I'd appreciate hearing from
anyone using a different vendor's deck. What's your
opinion of its performance? What was the pricing
ballpark for your unit when you bought it? Email
privately if you don't want to publish on the list.
Thanks.
--Doug
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:32:54 -0700
From: kabbage
To:
Subject: Bargain PC vendor
Message-ID:
I need to get a PC for testing streaming video, preferably a low end P3 or
Athlon desktop and I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions/links to
some cheap outlets. I am leery of ebay and would prefer to buy from a
somewhat reputable source. Refurbished is ok too. Help!
- kabbage
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:38:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Digital Beta Decks
Message-ID: <200108072038.f77KcbD27649@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>I'm shopping for decks. I know that Sony decks are
>great, but they cost 50K. I'd appreciate hearing from
>anyone using a different vendor's deck. What's your
>opinion of its performance? What was the pricing
>ballpark for your unit when you bought it? Email
>privately if you don't want to publish on the list.
>--Doug
You got anything against going DVCAM?
MB
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 16:44:19 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Digital Beta Decks
Message-ID: <3B705323.EE80DE09@sympatico.ca>
Douglas White wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm shopping for decks. I know that Sony decks are
> great, but they cost 50K. I'd appreciate hearing from
> anyone using a different vendor's deck. What's your
> opinion of its performance? What was the pricing
> ballpark for your unit when you bought it? Email
> privately if you don't want to publish on the list.
A lot of people consider that JVC's D9 format (earlier known as
Digital-S [IIRC, because it uses VHS-size cassettes]), which has 4:2:2
sampling but is a lot less expensive that DigiBeta, is the ideal
higher-end/lower-budget format.
Assuming you want to stick with 4:2:2, I expect Jan will update you on
DVCPro50 gear.
Charles
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:01:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Douglas White
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Digital Beta Decks
Message-ID: <20010807210127.84681.qmail@web14310.mail.yahoo.com>
We're licensing some stuff that's being delivered on
digibeta. It will be encoded (MPEG2) and integrated
into a high-bandwidth video server environment. I need
digibeta decks for the encoding process. I may end up
renting, but I need to know my purchase options so
that I can deal with the bean-counters.
--Doug
--- Vidiot wrote:
> >I'm shopping for decks. I know that Sony decks are
> >great, but they cost 50K. I'd appreciate hearing
> from
> >anyone using a different vendor's deck. What's your
> >opinion of its performance? What was the pricing
> >ballpark for your unit when you bought it? Email
> >privately if you don't want to publish on the list.
> >--Doug
>
> You got anything against going DVCAM?
>
> MB
> --
> e-mail: vidiot@vidiot.com
> Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys?
> Lisa: They must have
> programmed it to eliminate the competition.
> Bart: You mean like
> Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons -
> 12/18/99]
> Visit - URL: http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to
> Star Trek and UPN)
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:09:52 -0700
From: Eric Bin
To: dv-l@dvcentral.org
Subject: FCP - creating a clock
Hi,
The video I'm doing features two sides - one in real time, the other
accelerated. I need to add a clock of some sort to this to show elapsed
time. Is this possible with FCP2? If yes how does one do it?
thanks,
Eric
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:38:41 -0700
From: Eric Bin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: R1 DVD compatibility (was RE: The Idiots)
On Monday, August 6, 2001, at 05:41 AM, Mark Grant wrote:
> Anyway, to get back on topic: can R1 DVD players play back PAL DVDs on an
> NTSC TV? I've been thinking about producing DVDs of my movies at some point
> in the future, but assumed that to be globally watchable they'd have to be
> R0 NTSC; life will be much simpler if everyone can play R0 PAL.
First of all, thanks to those who sent links to me re: The Idiots. It's
much appreciated.
As for the question above...in some cases yes, some cases no. I have two
DVD players, a Pioneer 343 and an Apex 600a. The latter likes to be free
everything meaning no region code, no macrovision and no need to worry
about NTSC/PAL. The Pioneer can be hacked to play NTSC or PAL but I'm not
sure if it outputs NTSC if you're viewing PAL.
I've also got a DVD drive for a PC as well which won't cause any problems.
cheers,
Eric.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:00:09 +0200
From: "Jan De Wever"
To: "DV-list"
Subject: abcdv.com news: Canopus DVRaptor-RT reviewed
Message-ID:
Hi all,
abcdv.com is proud to announce it's first review. In the past, our reviews
were all carried out by users who described their own systems and tools. We
won't stop that, but we will carry out our own reviews too. For that
purpose, we purchased our very own PC, which will be used for all testing.
The first review we did in it was the Canopus DVRaptor-RT. Canopus' low cost
($599, including a full copy of Premiere 6) real time editing solution
proved to be a solid performer. Please read our full review, including
render times and other useful info at www.abcdv.com
--
Jan De Wever - Leuven, Belgium
Anyvision Media Services
webmaster www.abcdv.com
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 18:21:31 EDT
From: ROOBABY2@aol.com
To:
Subject: Re:Audio Sync in P6
Message-ID:
Hello All -
Im running Premiere 6 on a G4 Tibook and having strage audio problems: loss of sync when attempting to capture and general degradation of sound quality from the original tape. My original footage was shot at 48khz so I know that is not the problem. I have successfully captured into FCP but can't get the P6 to capture clean audio.
Any ideas?
Eve
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 18:21:34 EDT
From: ROOBABY2@aol.com
To:
Subject: Re:Audio Sync in P6
Message-ID:
Hello All -
Im running Premiere 6 on a G4 Tibook and having strage audio problems: loss of sync when attempting to capture and general degradation of sound quality from the original tape. My original footage was shot at 48khz so I know that is not the problem. I have successfully captured into FCP but can't get the P6 to capture clean audio.
Any ideas?
Eve
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:02:09 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Digital Beta Decks
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A4AE7C22@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
Hello Doug,
There are no other manufacturer's that make DigiBeta Equipment thus if that
is the format then that is your price. If however you have an interest in
going with another format, then you could look at DVCPRO50. We have a
machine that may be ideal for the application that you depict for around
$13,000. Depends on whether the MPEG2 encoder is looking for an SDI input
or if it wants an SDTI. The latter machine that will deliver the SDTI will
cost you more money, around $27,000. Obviously this is still considerably
less than the DigiBeta.
If you are interested in looking at more info, the machines are the AJ-D95
with SDI card option and the AJ-D950 with the SDTI Option. You can take a
look at these on our website www.panasonic.com/broadcast
Best regards,
Jan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas White [mailto:dvdoug@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 1:20 PM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Digital Beta Decks
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm shopping for decks. I know that Sony decks are
> great, but they cost 50K. I'd appreciate hearing from
> anyone using a different vendor's deck. What's your
> opinion of its performance? What was the pricing
> ballpark for your unit when you bought it? Email
> privately if you don't want to publish on the list.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Doug
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:12:34 -0700
From: Michael Bender
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Sony VX-700
Message-ID: <3B7083F2.DD32263E@sun.com>
What do folks here think of a Sony VX-700? A friend of mine wants
to get rid of his and I am looking for a backup DV camera, and I
know the VX-1000 is a nice camera, but I don't know much about the
VX-700.
mike
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:20:31 -0700
From: Tony Tafarella
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Sony VX-700
Message-ID: <428BBD9CF6FBD41181AF00A0CC5B006D30C6D2@cc-exchange.canopuscorp.com>
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Mike,
Got a question non related to your topic. I was wondering how the heck I
post to DV-L??? I cant seem to figure it out?!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bender [mailto:Michael.Bender@sun.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Sony VX-700
What do folks here think of a Sony VX-700? A friend of mine wants
to get rid of his and I am looking for a backup DV camera, and I
know the VX-1000 is a nice camera, but I don't know much about the
VX-700.
mike
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Mike,
Got a question non related to your topic. I was = wondering how the heck I post to DV-L??? I cant seem to figure it = out?!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bender [mailto:Michael.Bender@sun.com= ]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Sony VX-700
What do folks here think of a Sony VX-700? A friend = of mine wants
to get rid of his and I am looking for a backup DV = camera, and I
know the VX-1000 is a nice camera, but I don't know = much about the
VX-700.
mike
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:20:50 -0700
From: Tony Tafarella
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Sony VX-700
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bender [mailto:Michael.Bender@sun.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Sony VX-700
What do folks here think of a Sony VX-700? A friend of mine wants
to get rid of his and I am looking for a backup DV camera, and I
know the VX-1000 is a nice camera, but I don't know much about the
VX-700.
mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bender [mailto:Michael.Bender@sun.com= ]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Sony VX-700
What do folks here think of a Sony VX-700? A friend = of mine wants
to get rid of his and I am looking for a backup DV = camera, and I
know the VX-1000 is a nice camera, but I don't know = much about the
VX-700.
mike
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:26:37 -0700
From: Michael Bender
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sony VX-700
Message-ID: <3B70873D.9369AD2F@sun.com>
Hi Tony,
> Got a question non related to your topic. I was wondering how the
> heck I post to DV-L??? I cant seem to figure it out?!!
I think you just figured it out!
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 20:25:20 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sony VX-700
Message-ID: <3B7086F0.F5D59A38@sympatico.ca>
Michael Bender wrote:
>
> What do folks here think of a Sony VX-700? A friend of mine wants
> to get rid of his and I am looking for a backup DV camera, and I
> know the VX-1000 is a nice camera, but I don't know much about the
> VX-700.
I haven't used it, but I'm aware that the VX-700 was a DV match to
Sony's earlier TR700 Hi8 unit, which was their top-of-the-line one-chip
consumer video camera during the early/mid 90s.
It's probably as good as you'll find for a 1/3-inch single chip DV
camera. It has the same manual overrides as the VX1000. Compared with
other more recent lower-cost DV units, the VX-700's one limitation
(which also applies to the VX1000) was its not-very-long 10X zoom. If
you do a lot of telephoto shooting, you might therefore find the 700
frustrating. IINM it has (like the VX-1000) a 20X digital zoom which,
on the 1000, is not bad for about a third of the way in; however, with
the limitations of a single-chip camera, I'd expect the digital zoom
would enable less flexibility for the 700.
Reviews (not surprisingly) said it wasn't as sharp or as clean as the
VX1000, but still a fine unit.
If you can get one at a low price, I doubt you'd regret it -- especially
as a backup unit.
Charles
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 20:43:03 -0400
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sony VX-700
Message-ID: <3B708B17.30AA5979@golden.net>
from my understanding, the vx700 was almost exactly a vx1000, only a
single chipper instead of 3 chips...
but I could have missed something..
as a backup, if the price is right..try to find out how much it has been
used, since it's probably about 5 yrs old..
andrew
Michael Bender wrote:
>
> What do folks here think of a Sony VX-700? A friend of mine wants
> to get rid of his and I am looking for a backup DV camera, and I
> know the VX-1000 is a nice camera, but I don't know much about the
> VX-700.
>
> mike
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 18:06:38 -0700
From: "Ron Melton"
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Problems with a Panasonic PV-DV100 and Sony VAIO Digital Studio
Message-ID:
I recently purchased a Panasonic PV-DV100 cam corder. When I hook it to the firewire port on my Vaio (PCV-RX260DS) the computer recognizes that I have hooked up a new device, but can't find an appropriate driver for it. I have manually selected the Panasonic DV camcorder driver (from the imaging device choices) and also the generic dv camcorder driver. In either case I get an error message something like "that this driver is not for the device and may not work."
I have confirmed that the firewire link to the camera is working by hooking up to a Mac at work. So, I am pretty sure I am just missing the crucial driver!
At this point phone calls and e-mail to Panasonic have not produced a solution.
My O/S is Windows ME.
Help please!
Ron Melton
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:07:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Smith
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV over tcp/ip
Message-ID: <6625682.997232841311.JavaMail.imail@spike.excite.com>
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT), DV-L@dvcentral.org wrote:>
> > I remember back at 1999 there was group showing on
> > NAB and INET'99 their system
> > to pump DV stream in realtime from any source over
> > TCP/IP networks, and get it
> > back
> > on the other side. Can some one guide me in the
> > correct direction to find this
> > people? I really need this project for one of our
> > clients to retransmit a tv
> > channel
> > from Europe to USA.
> >
There are several companies(cisco-IPTV, V-Brick Systems, etc.) that make a
hardware product that realtime encode mpeg1,mpeg2,mpeg4 and others from any
video source. You can only achieve full resolution and full frame rates
over a lan and a wan with some additional equipment. No way can you achieve
the bandwidth you need to get from Europe to USA in realtime.
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 22:02:06 -0400
From: Kevin O'Hanlon
To: DV-L
Subject: Suggestions For Learning Dreamweaver?
Message-ID:
Hi list,
Can anyone point me towards a site where I can research how to upload video
to the web in general and using Dreamweaver specifically. What I'm doing
should be pretty straightforward. I'm just embedding an HTML tag produced
by Media Cleaner Pro into a webpage, but for the life of me I can't get it
to play.
Many thanks and warm regards,
K.
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:01:34 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Problems with a Panasonic PV-DV100 and Sony VAIO Digital Stud
io
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Ron,
You don't say what Editing Software you are using on the Vaio. If it is
Premier 6.0, you need to ditch the Texas Instruments drivers and load the
Windows drivers, at least that is what we had to do in our lab. The problem
is not the Panasonic camera but rather the software, which is probably why
you have not heard from Panasonic, they don't have the driver, and I can
assure you that they have no experience with a Sony Computer. ;-) It is the
software configuration that needs the work. My bet would be a phone call to
the manufacturer of the Edit software would net you more answers or perhaps
this illustrious list may have some additional suggestions for the Software
configuration.
Best regards,
Jan
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From: Ron Melton [mailto:rbmelton@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:07 PM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Problems with a Panasonic PV-DV100 and Sony VAIO Digital Studio
I recently purchased a Panasonic PV-DV100 cam corder. When I hook it to the
firewire port on my Vaio (PCV-RX260DS) the computer recognizes that I have
hooked up a new device, but can't find an appropriate driver for it. I have
manually selected the Panasonic DV camcorder driver (from the imaging device
choices) and also the generic dv camcorder driver. In either case I get an
error message something like "that this driver is not for the device and may
not work."
I have confirmed that the firewire link to the camera is working by hooking
up to a Mac at work. So, I am pretty sure I am just missing the crucial
driver!
At this point phone calls and e-mail to Panasonic have not produced a
solution.
My O/S is Windows ME.
Help please!
Ron Melton
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Ron,
You don't say what Editing Software you are using on the Vaio. If it is Premier 6.0, you need to ditch the Texas Instruments drivers and load the Windows drivers, at least that is what we had to do in our lab. The problem is not the Panasonic camera but rather the software, which is probably why you have not heard from Panasonic, they don't have the driver, and I can assure you that they have no experience with a Sony Computer. ;-) It is the software configuration that needs the work. My bet would be a phone call to the manufacturer of the Edit software would net you more answers or perhaps this illustrious list may have some additional suggestions for the Software configuration.
Best regards,
Jan
Original Message-----
From: Ron Melton [mailto:rbmelton@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:07 PM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Problems with a Panasonic PV-DV100 and Sony VAIO Digital Studio
I recently purchased a Panasonic PV-DV100 cam corder. When I hook it to the firewire port on my Vaio (PCV-RX260DS) the computer recognizes that I have hooked up a new device, but can't find an appropriate driver for it. I have manually selected the Panasonic DV camcorder driver (from the imaging device choices) and also the generic dv camcorder driver. In either case I get an error message something like "that this driver is not for the device and may not work."
I have confirmed that the firewire link to the camera is working by hooking up to a Mac at work. So, I am pretty sure I am just missing the crucial driver!
At this point phone calls and e-mail to Panasonic have not produced a solution.
My O/S is Windows ME.
Help please!
Ron Melton
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:26:18 EDT
From: ADReiff@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sony VX-700
Message-ID: <118.2c7ee61.28a1fd4a@aol.com>
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:31:35 EDT
From: ADReiff@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Sony VX-700
Message-ID:
The vx700 is the single ccd version. Many good things have been said about it
but the 1000 made it overpriced at the time.
At it's age (date of manufacture is on the undrside of the cam), check the
condition, but with the price on the newer cams, it's hard to see an
advantage in going with a used machine unless it's a bargain.
adr
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 23:23:56 -0400
From: andrew kohl
To: "DV-L@dvcentral.org"
Subject: OT: PVR sysdrive pooched..
Message-ID: <3B70B0CC.8EF2452B@golden.net>
Hi all..
Our 2 gig sysdrive finally gave up the ghost..
we want to use one of our other 4 gig seagate drives and put WIN2000 pro
on it..
first question: is win2000pro stable with PVR now?
second Q: does anyone run the ONStage (appliedmagic) audio card with
win2000 pro?..does it work well on standard NT4 drivers?( as I
understand..theya r eno longer writing drivers but its a kileler sound
card that cost us a bundle..would like to continue using it..)
thanks all..
andrew
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:17:50 -0700
From: Adam Wilt
To: DV-L
Subject: OT: RE: Near Canada
Message-ID: <3B70BD6E.D206ED77@flash.net>
> >It's PAL, but their version scans from right to left and bottom to top!
> >Perry:}
>
> Now come on Perry, bottom to top indeed ! That's Chinese mate . . . .
> in Australia it hops around all over the place.
This is, I assume, an example of Skippy-frame recording?
Sorry,
Adam Wilt
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Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:53:49 -0700
From: Adam Wilt
To: DV-L
Subject: Re: MPEGs going white in FCP render
Message-ID: <3B70C5DD.385D3296@flash.net>
> Come stai tutto,
Va bene oggi. Et lui?
> The long [MPEG] clips import fine as video and audio and sound segments
> into FCP but for no apparent reason will turn white after render.
Typically I see this when the appropriate codec cannot be found (i.e., trying
to play DVCPRO50, uncompressed, or HDCAM QuickTime files on a machine without
the codecs installed).
QuickTime 5 (at least) does not supply an encoder for either MPEG-1 or MPEG-2,
although it can decode them. It seems you have the "dec" in codec, but not the
"co" ("COmpressor/DECompressor").
You probably need to obtain a 3rd party compressor for MPEG, or get DVD Studio
Pro, which (according to the FCP manual) supplies its own.
Cheers,
Adam Wilt
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Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 01:00:55 -0400
From: Hal Brown
To:
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