DV-L Sat, 11 Aug 2001 Volume 1 : Number 944
In this issue:
bit off topic: how to create animation?
help-lighting inside car - night
RE: bit off topic: how to create animation?
RE: help-lighting inside car - night
Re: I would not recommend a Sony laptop again
Macro / Micro ?
If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Re: Canopus slomo
Re: Best sub-VX2000 camera
RE: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Re: help-lighting inside car - night
RE: DV-L V1 #943
CD Rom authoring
RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
Re: NTSC to PAL via NLE s/w tools
RE: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Re: help-lighting inside car - night
Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
Re: Canopus slomo
Re: Superdrive ?
Re: Canopus slomo
Capture DV
Re: Canopus slomo
Re: Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
Re: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
SONY & APPLE
RE: video to film transfer
Re: Superdrive ?
RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
Re: Premiere 6 and G4?
Re: Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
RE: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
RE: help-lighting inside car - night
Re: Premiere 6 and G4?
Re: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Re: I would not recommend a Sony laptop again
Re: Problem with IBM Drives?
Re: Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
Re: Hi8 -> DV a Work-Around
Re: Problem with IBM Drives?
Re: Sound in FCP
Re: Hi8 -> DV a Work-Around
Re: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Tiger K7 Listed at Ingram
Capturing desktop actions to Quicktime
Re: Capturing desktop actions to QuickTime
Re: Capturing desktop actions to Quicktime
Re: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
DVStorm/ dual Athlon performance
RE: help-lighting inside car - night
Re: PAL or NTSC for transfer to film?
Re: PAL or NTSC for transfer to film?
Re: help-lighting inside car - night
Best Pocket Firewire HD?
Re: CD Rom authoring
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:45:45 +0200
From: "Aadu Adok"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: bit off topic: how to create animation?
Message-ID: <295199A7B119D31197F80008C7731C9D043E8486@exchange.int.hansa.ee>
hi,
i would like to enrich my travel video with 'map animations' - like in the
beginning of 'Casablanca, 1942' where dashed line moves (upon map of europe)
from one city to another.
are there any programs (After Effects, etc..) that support this?
thanks,
Aadu Adok,
(372)5138443
PGP public key: http://www.algonet.se/~adok/aadu/pubkey.asc
Hansabank, Tallinn - Estonia
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:10:36 +0200
From: "Info"
To:
Subject: help-lighting inside car - night
Message-ID: <000501c1217c$56b8d6a0$38ea36c6@csargeant>
hi
we want to shoot a scene at night with a sony hi8 and/or pd150 or xl1. the
scene is of 2 people in a moving car (driver and passenger) talking to each
other. the camera should be from the perspective of the listener varied with
shots from front (through windscreen) and side (though side window).
1) how can we best light up the subject without overdoing the light. we
would like to restrict what's visible to the subject and close surroundings
i.e don't want to show what's outside the car.
2)where to position camera i.e. sit in driver seat with camera and shoot
passenger or stand outside and lean in with camera - we want it to look
natural (not too far away)
3)how do we show that the car is moving (when it's not) - or do we have ?
would the sound effects give this effect?
4) how do we make rain ? would a garden sprinkler or watering can do?
i really would appreciate any suggestions, especially from those that may
have already done this.
thanks
regards
clive
Independent Digital
Promoting digital video technology
info@idig.za.net
WWW.IDIG.ZA.NET
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:15:25 +0100
From: "Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: bit off topic: how to create animation?
Message-ID:
After Effects can do almost anything! This effect would be easy to do with
the standard AE package.
The secret is to prepare good artwork first.
Perry Mitchell
Video Consultant
http://www.perrybits.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Aadu Adok
i would like to enrich my travel video with 'map animations' - like in the
beginning of 'Casablanca, 1942' where dashed line moves (upon map of europe)
from one city to another.
are there any programs (After Effects, etc..) that support this?
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:33:51 +0100
From: "Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: help-lighting inside car - night
Message-ID:
1) This is tricky for a genuine moving car. The professionals use specialist
tiny fluorescent tube lights that can be fitted out of sight and give some
light on the faces.
2) You need a very wide angle lens if you actually shoot inside the car, and
this distorts the subject. I've got a reasonable shot by mounting a miniDV
palmcorder on the side window with a suction mount.
3) The professionals overcome the above problems by loading the whole car on
a low-loader trailer. You can then mount lights and exterior camera mount
also on the trailer. When the whole caboodle travels along the road, the
camera shot appears to be on the moving car.
4) Depend what sort of rain! Living in UK, I always used to think that
Hollywood rain storms looked like a few stage hands were throwing buckets of
water from off-shot. I went to live in Greece, and serious rain storms
REALLY look like that!
Good luck
Perry Mitchell
-----Original Message-----
we want to shoot a scene at night with a sony hi8 and/or pd150 or xl1. the
scene is of 2 people in a moving car (driver and passenger) talking to each
other. the camera should be from the perspective of the listener varied with
shots from front (through windscreen) and side (though side window).
1) how can we best light up the subject without overdoing the light. we
would like to restrict what's visible to the subject and close surroundings
i.e don't want to show what's outside the car.
2)where to position camera i.e. sit in driver seat with camera and shoot
passenger or stand outside and lean in with camera - we want it to look
natural (not too far away)
3)how do we show that the car is moving (when it's not) - or do we have ?
would the sound effects give this effect?
4) how do we make rain ? would a garden sprinkler or watering can do?
i really would appreciate any suggestions, especially from those that may
have already done this.
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:53:55 +0200
From: "Rieni, TNB"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: I would not recommend a Sony laptop again
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010810115252.06170370@mail.euronet.nl>
At 09-08-2001 10:13, Mike Falconer wrote:
>I have a 5 year old Hitachi laptop that cost me $3500 five years ago. It's
>been one of the smarter buying decisions I've made. It's survived
>international travel, serious outdoor trekking and one hilarious incident in
>which I incorrectly plugged the power supply into a wall socket in an
>Australian hospital. Nice bang, a bit of smoke and the entire wing's power
>went down. No kidding. I hid out behind the curtains while the maintenance
>guys rushed in and fiddled with the circuit breakers. I did'nt do a body
>count on the way out the door...
>
>I might add that their service and support is top notch.
>
>Mike Falconer
>Oregon Media Services Inc.
Mike you made me laugh so hard, thanks. You didn't happen to record this
scene on tape, did you? It would be the funniest movie ever.
Rieni
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:09:17 +0200
From: "Jan van der Meer"
To:
Subject: Macro / Micro ?
Message-ID:
Anybody know other lenses for best (better) results? We did some tests with
CENTURY Precision Optics Hollywood
ACHROMATIC DIOPTER STK#:OAD-5840-00 and STK#: OAD-5870-00 and the RAYNOX
Micro Explorerset CM-3500
Yosida Industry Company Tokyo Japan. This set includes 3 Micro Lenses 6X 12X
24X and universal Mounting adaptor 52-67 mm
Also fits 58mm lenses like VX2000/PD150 and Canon GL1/ XM1. Do have a look
at http://www.global-dvc.org/html/libellen3.asp and more photo's at
~/libellen2.asp
Jan van der Meer
www.Global-DVC.Org
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 05:21:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: tmb
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Message-ID: <20010810122139.6336.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com>
In response to the...
"I would not reccomend a Sony Laptop again" thread...
I also have heard bad stuff about Sony Laptops.
What about Dell Laptops?
What about Gateway?
Thanks for any comments - tmb
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 05:31:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: wes chow
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Canopus slomo
Message-ID: <20010810123112.1265.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com>
> Have you tried capturing it again as a standard Storm AVI file? I
> thought reference files were only used when creating a file from a
> timeline of clips that were already on your computer.
you can use reference files to capture something that's larger than the
max AVI size (4 gigs?).
Wes
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:53:33 +0200
From: "Tal Hart \(I-Media\)"
To:
Subject: Re: Best sub-VX2000 camera
Message-ID: <09c601c121a3$d8c85cc0$04ba39d5@a9l0d9>
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Best Mtach would be a second VX-2000 :-)
next step down would be the TRV-900 (PD100), now available at as low as $1400 at some shops...
It is quite like the VX2000 , with 3CCD's but with smaller lens, which makes the whole camera
a standard Palm sized camera, with 3.5" LCD, and it dosent have the Advance HAD improving of the VX2000.
A great camera alltogether and works great as a Deck..
tal.
----- Original Message -----
From: DV-L@dvcentral.org
To: dv-l@dvcentral.org
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:42 AM
Subject: Best sub-VX2000 camera
I need a second camera to my VX2000 both for "second unit" and as a deck.
What cheaper camera (I guess a Sony) would match best and serve as a deck
also? Thanks.
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Best Mtach would be a second VX-2000=20 :-)
next step down would be the = TRV-900=20 (PD100), now available at as low as $1400 at some shops...
It is quite like the VX2000 = , with=20 3CCD's but with smaller lens, which makes the whole camera
a standard Palm sized = camera, with 3.5"=20 LCD, and it dosent have the Advance HAD improving of the = VX2000.
A great camera alltogether = and works=20 great as a Deck..
tal.
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Subject: Best sub-VX2000 = camera
I need a second camera to my VX2000 both for "second = unit" and=20 as a deck.
What cheaper camera (I guess a Sony) would match best = and serve=20 as a deck
also? Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:15:08 -0500
From: "D"
To:
Subject: RE: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Message-ID: <000d01c1219e$7b389660$0a00a8c0@typhoon>
I'd recommend the Dell laptops (in general). I was recently responsible for
sending out numerous Latitudes and Inspirons and most of them held up really
well. There were a few exceptions where units had broken latches or broken
docking connectors but these were generally due to user abuse of the
machine.
Certain older models like the Inspiron 7000 and 7500 and the Latitude LT
either weren't very stable or reliable or (in the LT's case) were just plain
flimsy. However, those models aren't offered anymore. The LT was one of
Dell's earlier slim "VAIO wannbes". The newer slim models are quite a bit
sturdier although I still wouldn't recommend them.
In general the Latitudes seem to be more reliable -- probably because they
are designed for the corporate environment. The Latitudes don't change as
rapidly as the Inspirons do. Of course, the downside to that is that the
Latitudes don't always have the most cutting edge options available (like
the GeForce2go video card).
Dell's support is also excellent which is a big issue with laptops due to
their proprietary nature. Provided that a part is in stock and that your
service call isn't placed late in the day, you will generally see a tech
with part(s) in hand the next business day. I'd recommend checking out the
support pages on each company's web site as well.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tmb [mailto:topmailbox@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 7:22 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
>
>
> In response to the...
>
> "I would not reccomend a Sony Laptop again" thread...
>
> I also have heard bad stuff about Sony Laptops.
>
> What about Dell Laptops?
> What about Gateway?
>
> Thanks for any comments - tmb
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:18:01 -0400
From: Em
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: help-lighting inside car - night
Message-ID:
>hi
>
>we want to shoot a scene at night with a sony hi8 and/or pd150 or xl1. the
>scene is of 2 people in a moving car (driver and passenger) talking to each
>other. the camera should be from the perspective of the listener varied with
>shots from front (through windscreen) and side (though side window).
>
>1) how can we best light up the subject without overdoing the light. we
>would like to restrict what's visible to the subject and close surroundings
>i.e don't want to show what's outside the car.
The most common way is to to have the light source coming from the
Lower-Dashboard....
>2)where to position camera i.e. sit in driver seat with camera and shoot
>passenger or stand outside and lean in with camera - we want it to look
>natural (not too far away)
Well.....you have 5 choices....the most common is... mounted on the Hood
or each door Driver and Passenger.. then you have coverage from the
Back seat...which is the cheapest and or from the 2 front seat POV's
of each subject.
>3)how do we show that the car is moving (when it's not) - or do we have ?
>would the sound effects give this effect?
Well really...if you have no money...it's called Driving...otherwise you rent
an expensive Camera Car.....
>4) how do we make rain ? would a garden sprinkler or watering can do?
Hmm, your asking a lot....:) Yes a garden hose will do..except for Traveling
shot..you'll need a mighty long hose hehe! :)
There is a way called "Travelling Mattes"..but that will cost you...
If you keep stationary...you'll need
1) A person to Pan lights to emulate street light....
2). One to soak the car for "Rain"
3) A few Grips to shake the car to emulate movement
and so on........
Hope this helps Take care
Em
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:53:29 +1000
From: "Rich Terlaje"
To:
Subject: RE: DV-L V1 #943
Message-ID:
I've got a system built by DVLine that uses the IBM drives. It originally
came with (2) 60gig 75GXPs. One by one, they broke. First one broke, Ken
replaced it. Second one broke, Ken replaced it. Third one broke, (by this
time I had lost a total of 5 or 6 running projects). I took it out and shot
it.
I've got the last of the drives still running. However, it makes the noises
the other drives made while they were running down (dying). It's lasted the
longest though.
I visit www.storagereview.com from time to time. There are alot of users
who've had IBM drives on them, mostly 45gig 75GXPs. However, there are also
alot of 60 & 75gig drives that have gone dead. Based on advice from some
users, I mounted this last drive as a secondary master (not on the Promise
RAID). Some folks seem to think the RAID doesn't properly control the drive
and doesn't give it a proper spin-down time. Whatever the reason, this last
of my IBM drives has lasted the longest. Check the StorageReview forum for
more info. There are alot of tales from users, some of whom have contacted
IBM... so they're aware of these problems (just not publically).
As for DVLine, I can't really fault them for the bad experiences (and lost
revenue) caused by the drive failures. They did a great job of handling the
problem(s). Ken, mind swapping the last IBM for a Maxtor? ;-)
*sigh* 75% failure rate...
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:31:31 -0600
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Subject: RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
Message-ID:
Stephen,
Not sure I agree. We are monitoring this very closely as we have had an
abnormally high failure rate on the GXP series drives. The good news is that
IBM replaces our RMAs quickly and often with new, not refurbished drives.
Thanks,
Ken Bell
---
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:01:49 -0400
From: Kevin O'Hanlon
To: DV-L
Subject: CD Rom authoring
Message-ID:
Hi list,
Could anyone direct me to a site where I can learn more about authoring a CD
ROM. I'm looking to create a simple browser based CD to AutoPlay a quick
flash movie and then present a template to select video clips.
Many thanks and warm regards,
K.
----------------
Kevin O'Hanlon
Videographer/Director
119 East 60th Street
New York, New York 10022
212.319.6135
917.626-6356
Fax: 419.828.5735
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:02:16 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
Message-ID: <000201c121a5$109623c0$4423a8c0@dell420>
>Not sure I agree. We are monitoring this very closely as we have had an
>abnormally high failure rate on the GXP series drives. The good news is
that
>IBM replaces our RMAs quickly and often with new, not refurbished drives.
>
>We are about to begin offering the WD 100GB drive shortly as Western has
>seemed to have made a comeback. BTW, our experience with Maxtor is almost
>opposite of yours. We sold a heap of them in 99/00 and our RMA replacement
>has been very low.
I know my experience is hardly a scientific sample and your RMA numbers are
more indicative. My guess is my GXP bought back in January may not be the
newer batch that is having problems. But my point about system cooling is
still very valid as certainly by Maxtor 7200's run hotter than the GXP in a
warmer part of the case and thus seem to burn up despite only being used for
audio, AE rendering and misc. The Quantum Atlas IIk's in the same spot
(system drives) have been just fine.
PS. What do you think the street price on the Western Digital 100 will be (I
will be in the market soon to replace my Maxtor 40's)?
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to free your
heart."
-Homer Simpson
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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:02:38 +1000
From: wtv999@optushome.com.au
To: TRV900@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: NTSC to PAL via NLE s/w tools
Message-ID:
Does anyone have a magic recipe/procedure for this ?
I have some NTSC DV Footage captured and need to output to a PAL
TRV 900 - from a G4...
Seems there oughta be way a to do the job well, but entirely in the
digital domain .. but I can see where traps might exist .. Before
I spend a month researching it, has anyone any guidelines/experience
they cd offer / links/recipes I cd look at ?
Wd appreciate direct email replies, copying the list,
Thanks to all,
Wayne T
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:05:41 -0400
From: "Stephen van Vuuren"
To:
Subject: RE: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Message-ID: <000301c121a5$8af3f9d0$4423a8c0@dell420>
>What about Dell Laptops?
In my former life as an IT manager, we bought dozens of Latitudes. Failure
rate was around 1 in 15 (compared to 5 in 10 of Compaq). Laptops by
definition will have more failures then desktops (our desktop failure rate
was about 1 in 10 on Compaqs and 1 in 25 on Dells) due to both compact
design and the constant abuse. We defined failure rate as a hardware failure
in the first year of use.
stephen
www.xiveren.com
"But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to free your
heart."
-Homer Simpson
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:12:50 EDT
From: Triglyph@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: help-lighting inside car - night
Message-ID: <51.f7e874f.28a545e2@aol.com>
In a message dated 8/10/01 2:41:19 AM, perry.mitchell@btinternet.com writes:
<< 1) This is tricky for a genuine moving car. The professionals use
specialist
tiny fluorescent tube lights that can be fitted out of sight and give some
light on the faces. >>
Correct, we usually use Mini-Flo's, which are 12 volt Kino Flo high frequency
flourescent tubes. (The high frequency reduces the chance of flicker). They
come in 6" and 9" tubes and fit right behind the steering wheel or on the
visor, the glovebox, whereever you need them. As with all Kino's, they come
in tungsten or daylight balance. They are hideously expensive but wonderful.
However, we did car lighting long before Kino Flo's were invented. I
sometime use Stick-Ups, which are very small, 100 watt bulbs (12 volt in this
case) in a very simple metal reflector. As the name implies, they are
designed to "stick-up" anywhere, even with a little tape (paper tape - NOT
gaffer tape). The problem is they are a little too bright and I always have
to put several layers of diffusion or ND gel over them. Stick-up's are sold
by GAM (Great American Market) in LA (about a hundred bucks, as I recall). I
have used them in bus shots where they actually appeared in the frame - just
looked like part of the bus lighting.
CHEAPER: We also built some "diablos" which used to be a popular rig for this
sort of thing. Twelve volt bulbs which are the same size and shape as a
tubular glass car fuse (I don't remember the bulb designation, but if you're
interested, I could go out to the garage and look. Or try www.bulbman.com or
Bulbtronics in LA - don't know if they have a website). Holders are
available which these fit into - it's a flat piece of plastic with little
metal clips to hold the bulbs. You then wire it up any way you want. I
wired it as two circuits so I have some quick control of intensity - you can
also add or subtract bulbs (parallel wiring, of course). So small they can
be hidden anywhere - you make them any size you want.
This is then wired to some "zip" cord (lamp cord), which goes to two
alligator clips. The wire is hidden wherever convenient and led out to under
the hood and attached to the battery. Alternately, you can wire it to a
battery inside (any kind of 12 volt). CAUTION - use heavy gauge zip cord,
remember that at lower voltage, the amperage is higher. #12 is best, #16 if
that's all you have, never use #18, it will melt. Use some substantial
alligator clips also, I have on occasion told the best boy to use heavier
clips and when they dont, they melt and make us all look bad when there is a
delay in shooting.
You can always take any small 12 volt light (like a lowell PRO or similar,
i.e. the same kind of unit you might mount on top of the video camera for
fill) and hide it on the floor between driver and passenger (so it's not
blocked by their legs), bounced into a piece of white card. This actually
produces a very nice light quality, although it spills around the car a
little more, but not too bad - the parts of the car it "over lights" are
usually out of frame.
good luck,
Blain
ps. if you want a picture of the diablo, I can email one. It's simple, cheap
and you can make it yourself with stuff from the auto store.
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:21:04 -0400
From: "D P"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
Message-ID:
Hello All. I was wondering if there is a table or guide
out there on the web that compares different
movie size/codec/file size/quality/etc. information.
I'm trying to find out the best way to compress about an hour of 320x240
imbedded QT movies that would run off of an educational CDROM. The html and
various other documents would take up about 100-120 MB, leaving me the
remainder of the CD for the movies.
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You
Dan Porvin
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:45:34 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: Canopus slomo
Message-ID: <59413587079@vilas.uwex.edu>
>Unsupported marker is found 514e554a<
I see this occasionally too. Basically I think what SpeedController
is saying is that it doesn't want to see clips from Premiere, it wants
to see *entire captured files.*
Try this:
Find the tape with the piece you want to slo-mo. Open Premiere.
Capture the clip. Save it somewhere. Close Premiere, open
SpeedController, import the clip, let SpeedController do it's thing.
BTW, I have used it to accellerate video as well...made some great
fast-clouds-passing stuff. Took two passes at +999, but it worked.
Hope this helps -
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:45:33 -0400
From: "Dany Coryet"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Superdrive ?
Message-ID:
This will work if there is no copy guard on the DVD title.
Otherwise(and 90% of commercial titles have copyguard) -Platter;
I though you were trying to duplicate something you authored without
redoing the authoring, or without opening the authoring package!
This will work for low volume replication (many one off's done easier than
in the authoring app)
Dany
>>
>Dany,
>
>When you say "include all of the files that were on the original DVD" do
>you mean all of the source material (movies, jpegs, etc)? I'm wanting to
>know if I can just drag the DVD's icon to Toast, insert another blank DVD-R
>when prompted and let it eat.
>
>Thanks!
>Kirk
>
>on 8/9/01 10:17 AM, Dany Coryet at dcsos@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Just make sure you include all the files that were on the original DVD
> > Toast Titanium will work. (4.0 or earlier doesn't support DVD burners)
> >
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:47:37 CST
From: "Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503"
To:
Subject: Re: Canopus slomo
Message-ID: <5941BC86DCA@vilas.uwex.edu>
Joe wrote:
>Yes, Canopus Reference AVI's are different.<
DING DING DING! I believe we have a WINNAH!
Thanks to Joe for remindg all of us that keep Ref AVI turned on all
the time.
Bruce A. Johnson
Senior Videographer/Editor
Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:53:05 +0200
From: "marko"
To:
Subject: Capture DV
Message-ID: <000901c121ac$29489a40$1d6048d4@nastja>
Do anybody know some free program to download movie from DV camcorder via
FireWire (WD) in full resolution. I'm using MS Movie Maker, but it capture
only 320*160
Marko
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:14:16 -0400
From: andrew kohl
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Canopus slomo
Message-ID: <3B73FA48.46DA64E5@golden.net>
thanks evryone, I will try it and report back ..
andrew
"Bruce A. Johnson ORH 2-8503" wrote:
>
> Joe wrote:
>
> >Yes, Canopus Reference AVI's are different.<
>
> DING DING DING! I believe we have a WINNAH!
>
> Thanks to Joe for remindg all of us that keep Ref AVI turned on all
> the time.
>
> Bruce A. Johnson
> Senior Videographer/Editor
> Wisconsin Public Television Digital Production Unit
>
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------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:09:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
Message-ID: <200108101509.f7AF9xU24865@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
>I'm trying to find out the best way to compress about an hour of 320x240
>imbedded QT movies that would run off of an educational CDROM. The html and
>various other documents would take up about 100-120 MB, leaving me the
>remainder of the CD for the movies.
>Dan Porvin
If you use a 700MB CD-R, that leaves about 600MB for 60 minutes, or about
10MB a minute. At 320x240, you are going to be cutting it real cloae.
Others on the list can probably provide a web site that discusses all this,
but you might want to look into the professional version of the Sorenson
codec.
As a reference, 33 seconds of MPEG-1 (VideoCD compatible) video takes up
about 5.5MB of space.
MB
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:17:23 -0500
From: Danny Grizzle
To:
Subject: Re: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Message-ID:
on 8/10/01 9:05 AM, Stephen van Vuuren at stephen@xiveren.com wrote:
> In my former life as an IT manager, we bought dozens of Latitudes. Failure
> rate was around 1 in 15 (compared to 5 in 10 of Compaq). Laptops by
> definition will have more failures then desktops (our desktop failure rate
> was about 1 in 10 on Compaqs and 1 in 25 on Dells) due to both compact
> design and the constant abuse. We defined failure rate as a hardware failure
> in the first year of use.
This whole tread has been unnerving to me because I just bought 2 Sony VAIO
laptops for my best client. I've also purchased Dell and Micron laptops for
clients in the last couple of years.
The brutal competition of the PC world shows when it comes to portable
computers. There are lots of tradeoffs between robust construction and cost
economy.
I use PowerBooks personally. My last laptop was a PowerBook 5300, the
biggest piece of junk Apple ever shipped. My current machine is a 500MHz G3
pre-Titanium Firewire PowerBook, by far the best computer I have ever owned.
PC laptops usually support a lot of legacy ports that require big clumsy
connectors, and this introduces problems with flimsy opening covers.
Ergonomics are often non-existent. It makes me shudder when I see speaker
ports positioned under the palm rests -- wonder what those speaker grill
holes will look like in a year or two..... eeeughewwwwwwww...
Mac users get beat up for paying premium prices, but the ergonomics and
general fit and finish of PowerBooks is unequalled anywhere else. Of course,
Apple has much more freedom to unilaterally drop support for legacy ports.
The industrial design team for Dell laptops was hired away from Apple. I've
bought Micron laptops, but it was a mistake. The Dell's are much nicer.
I like the Sony VAIO laptops a lot. They're an awesome machine new out of
the box, with an outstanding software bundle. Reading this list makes me
glad I bought the extended warranty, not a bad idea for any laptop...
Danny Grizzle
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:30:46 -0400
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Subject: SONY & APPLE
Message-ID: <000e01c121b1$6cf35960$ff646c42@nyc.rr.com>
Steve,
I agree with you on the Sony Laptops. However, I would like to know
what some of the problems are with Apples Ti??
GO TO APPLE > DISCUSSIONS > POWERBOOKS > SEARCH "problems"
I have a chance to buy a G4/400 cheap -- but the person "lost" her sales
slip so AS FAR AS I CAN TELL FROM THE APPLE SITE I can not get warrantee
service. Normally I wouldn't worry, but I was worried by the number of
folks who needed repairs or complete replacements.
The new iBook seems to have fewer problems.
Anyone know if a sales receipt is really needed? Charles?
++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Touch pad is very sensitive on the Ti.
YES -- I FOUND MANY REFERENCES TO THIS PROBLEM FOR IBOOKS TOO. The iBook
at my local CompUSA has the weird problem that as you finger toward the
left edge -- the cursor "bounces" off the edge and heads back in. (But
then my Sony cursor pops up several lines.) Some claim it is user
error -- but I really tested the iBook carefully. It has a problem, but
the Ti next to it does not. I suspect these are all part variations from
poor QC. That's why so many recommended buying from a dealer who will
let you return it with no hassle.
Unfortunately, the 20GB iBook only comes from Apple!!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++
"My boss has a Sony as well and hates it - extremely unreliable machine.
He
had a big presentation with a client once and the thing wouldn't start
up."
Same thing with a brand new Sony my wife's boss bought. Also to give
presentations.
Best Regards,
Steve Mullen, Contributing Editor
Video Systems Magazine
www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:30:47 -0400
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Subject: RE: video to film transfer
Message-ID: <000f01c121b1$6db39c20$ff646c42@nyc.rr.com>
"Can anyone with experience in transferring their mini-DV native project
to
16mm film share their knowledge with me? Also, what are the
advantages/disadvantages of the Canon XL-1 versus the Sony VX-2000 and
VX-1000 when considering a video to film transfer?"
SHAMELESS PLUG: GO TO > www.mindspring.com/~dv2cinema
Best Regards,
Steve Mullen
Digital Video Consulting NYC
www.mindspring.com/~dv2cinema — a site devoted to those who are using,
or soon plan to use, DV, DVCAM, or DVCPRO to create productions to be
released on 16mm, 35mm, SD-DTV, or HD-DTV.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:25:22 -0500
From: Kirk Lohse
To: DV List
Subject: Re: Superdrive ?
Message-ID:
No-this is not a copyrighted disc--it's just a short disc I created in iDVD
and want to quickly dupe with Toast rather than going back through iDVD 10
or 12 times.
So you're saying I CAN do this?
Thanks!
on 8/10/01 9:45 AM, Dany Coryet at dcsos@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> This will work if there is no copy guard on the DVD title.
> Otherwise(and 90% of commercial titles have copyguard) -Platter;
> I though you were trying to duplicate something you authored without
> redoing the authoring, or without opening the authoring package!
> This will work for low volume replication (many one off's done easier than
> in the authoring app)
> Dany
>
>>>
>> Dany,
>>
>> When you say "include all of the files that were on the original DVD" do
>> you mean all of the source material (movies, jpegs, etc)? I'm wanting to
>> know if I can just drag the DVD's icon to Toast, insert another blank DVD-R
>> when prompted and let it eat.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Kirk
>>
>> on 8/9/01 10:17 AM, Dany Coryet at dcsos@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just make sure you include all the files that were on the original DVD
>>> Toast Titanium will work. (4.0 or earlier doesn't support DVD burners)
>>>
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:32:45 -0600
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Subject: RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
Message-ID:
> PS. What do you think the street price on the Western Digital 100
> will be (I
> will be in the market soon to replace my Maxtor 40's)?
The 80GB is selling around $260 on the pricewatch sites; figure $290 out of
the gate for the 100GB. If you are buying on the street, there is a company
called Drivedeals that is very reputable and has great prices.
To be clear, we really like the performance of the IBMs and the company does
stand behind the drives 100%. I would agree with you that keeping drives
cool will definitely extend their life.
Thanks,
Ken Bell
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen van Vuuren [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:02 AM
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
>
>
> >Not sure I agree. We are monitoring this very closely as we have had an
> >abnormally high failure rate on the GXP series drives. The good news is
> that
> >IBM replaces our RMAs quickly and often with new, not refurbished drives.
> >
> >We are about to begin offering the WD 100GB drive shortly as Western has
> >seemed to have made a comeback. BTW, our experience with Maxtor is almost
> >opposite of yours. We sold a heap of them in 99/00 and our RMA
> replacement
> >has been very low.
>
> I know my experience is hardly a scientific sample and your RMA
> numbers are
> more indicative. My guess is my GXP bought back in January may not be the
> newer batch that is having problems. But my point about system cooling is
> still very valid as certainly by Maxtor 7200's run hotter than
> the GXP in a
> warmer part of the case and thus seem to burn up despite only
> being used for
> audio, AE rendering and misc. The Quantum Atlas IIk's in the same spot
> (system drives) have been just fine.
>
> PS. What do you think the street price on the Western Digital 100
> will be (I
> will be in the market soon to replace my Maxtor 40's)?
>
> stephen
>
> www.xiveren.com
>
> "But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to
> free your
> heart."
> -Homer Simpson
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:49:47 -0600
From: James Reidenbaugh
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere 6 and G4?
Message-ID: <3B74029B.2CFEBFE6@familydocumentaries.com>
Hi Rieni,
I have the G-4 733 with P6 running. My works great, but I did buy it through Promax. They did all the setup and configuration for me.
"Rieni, TNB" wrote:
> Having all kinds of problems with our G3, I ordered a G4 733Mhz today, it
> will arrive in about a week. Is anyone using Premiere 6 on a G4, and if so,
> is it a good combination?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rieni
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:49:16 -0700
From: Eric Bin
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
On Friday, August 10, 2001, at 08:09 AM, Vidiot wrote:
>> I'm trying to find out the best way to compress about an hour of 320x240
>> imbedded QT movies that would run off of an educational CDROM. The html
>> and
>> various other documents would take up about 100-120 MB, leaving me the
>> remainder of the CD for the movies.
>> Dan Porvin
>
> If you use a 700MB CD-R, that leaves about 600MB for 60 minutes, or about
> 10MB a minute. At 320x240, you are going to be cutting it real cloae.
> Others on the list can probably provide a web site that discusses all this,
> but you might want to look into the professional version of the Sorenson
> codec.
Take a look at www.codeccentral.com - it hasn't been updated for Sorenson
3 yet but at least it'll give you some ideas.
I would recommend using QT5 with VP3 - it has reasonable decode
requirements so you don't need a computer with a lot of stonk to view it.
320x240/29.97 can be done very nicely with as little as 300kbps (depends on
content) which makes it very easy to fit on a CD. The drawback is that VP3
isn't part of QT5 by default so you need to connect to the web to download
the codec (100k or so I think). Not sure if you can include VP3 with your
QT installer, perhaps Kevin Marks can answer that.
The basic version of Sorenson 3 is quite good (as good as SV2 Pro IMHO) but
has higher decode requirements than VP3 but it is part of QT 5.0.2. It's
sharper than VP3 but tends to flatten out the blacks and whites too much.
Good results can be obtained at as low as 400kbps for that size.
You *might* be able to make PhotoJPEG fit with reasonable quality as well.
Hope that helps,
cheers.
Eric.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:44:27 -0600
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Subject: RE: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Message-ID:
Steve,
We looked real hard at building our own laptops, buying lesser brands like
ProStar and of course some of the brands like Sony. Ultimately, we ended up
choosing Dell and will be showing Avid XpressDV, Fast Studio 3D and Premiere
on an 8100 with 1.13 Tualatins at WEVA. These machines are brutes and they
weigh in that way as well. But they are also workhorses. I left a Dell on
top of my car when I was a web consultant and even after hitting the
pavement from about 5 feet, it worked flawlessly for another year and a
half.
Thanks,
Ken Bell
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:01:00 +0100
From: "Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: help-lighting inside car - night
Message-ID:
I'd add to Blain's list the 12v battery powered fluorescent tube fittings
that are sold to fit in caravans (trailers to you folks over the pond). They
are pretty cheap and automatically will be high frequency. The ones I have
use a 12 inch tube. They are pretty greeny yellow but it all adds to the
effect of being lit by the car dashboard and passing street lamps!
If you want to make up more powerful 'keylights', use the architectural 12v
lamps with built on reflector, as used by Anton Bauer in their camera
headlight. If you go to a large electrical trade shop they will have a
wonderful selection of wattage and angle of coverage (set by the reflector).
If I remember, you can get them as small as 10w but with only a few degrees
of coverage. You could mount them in a glob of play clay.
Don't forget the universal 'practical' rule. If you have any real lamps in
shot, change the bulb for a higher wattage and make use of it. If you remove
the diffuser from a car interior lamp then it may well give some useful
fill.
Perry Mitchell
-----Original Message-----
From: Triglyph@aol.com
Correct, we usually use Mini-Flo's, which are 12 volt Kino Flo high
frequency
flourescent tubes. (The high frequency reduces the chance of flicker). They
come in 6" and 9" tubes and fit right behind the steering wheel or on the
visor, the glovebox, whereever you need them. As with all Kino's, they come
in tungsten or daylight balance. They are hideously expensive but
wonderful.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:16:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: john markert
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Premiere 6 and G4?
Message-ID: <20010810161652.80222.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com>
Should be no problem for your buddies at Promax,
right, Rieni?
--- James Reidenbaugh
wrote:
> Hi Rieni,
>
> I have the G-4 733 with P6 running. My works great,
> but I did buy it through Promax. They did all the
> setup and configuration for me.
>
> "Rieni, TNB" wrote:
>
> > Having all kinds of problems with our G3, I
> ordered a G4 733Mhz today, it
> > will arrive in about a week. Is anyone using
> Premiere 6 on a G4, and if so,
> > is it a good combination?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rieni
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:19:34 -0600
From: "George Loch"
To:
Subject: Re: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Message-ID: <005501c121b8$3ea22f80$10b6bad0@halescreative.com>
Actually, you can get the nvidia graphics in the top of the line lattitude
C810
> In general the Latitudes seem to be more reliable -- probably because they
> are designed for the corporate environment. The Latitudes don't change as
> rapidly as the Inspirons do. Of course, the downside to that is that the
> Latitudes don't always have the most cutting edge options available (like
> the GeForce2go video card).
>
> Dell's support is also excellent which is a big issue with laptops due to
> their proprietary nature. Provided that a part is in stock and that your
> service call isn't placed late in the day, you will generally see a tech
> with part(s) in hand the next business day. I'd recommend checking out
the
> support pages on each company's web site as well.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:24:26 -0700
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: I would not recommend a Sony laptop again
Message-ID: <001101c121b8$ecd44d40$0400a8c0@speedsterii>
I have had excellent relibility with EVERY Toshiba I have had......and that
is about 6 laptops in 10 years.
I highly recommend them.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Mullen"
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: I would not recommend a Sony laptop again
> > Apparently, we must all buy a Sony VAIO if we want to access it.
>
> My 2 year old VAIO laptop now has a fully dead battery, a broken hinge
> on the screen, a dead shift key, a CD-ROM drawer that likes to slide
> open on its own, and the surface of the trackpad is coming off. The
> units never been out of my house. My wife's 3 year old SHARP laptop is
> in perfect running condition -- and its been two India twice. I would
> not recommend a Sony laptop to anyone -- even though they have the best
> tiny laptops.
>
> I've been looking at iBook and Ti. But buyers are having problems with
> them too -- especially the Ti.
>
> NY Times had an article on a company in Taiwan that makes most of the
> world's notebooks including Sony and the Ti from Apple. I suspect
> companies are forcing their laptop suppliers to keep lowering their
> prices. Naturally this compromises quality.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Steve Mullen
> Digital Video Consulting NYC
> www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c
>
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:34:34 -0700
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: Problem with IBM Drives?
Message-ID: <004d01c121ba$56da3820$0400a8c0@speedsterii>
we have 4 60 G IBM drives running in a couple of IDE RAIDS and are very
happy with them so far.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
> > PS. What do you think the street price on the Western Digital 100
> > will be (I
> > will be in the market soon to replace my Maxtor 40's)?
>
> The 80GB is selling around $260 on the pricewatch sites; figure $290 out
of
> the gate for the 100GB. If you are buying on the street, there is a
company
> called Drivedeals that is very reputable and has great prices.
>
> To be clear, we really like the performance of the IBMs and the company
does
> stand behind the drives 100%. I would agree with you that keeping drives
> cool will definitely extend their life.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Bell
> ---
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> http://www.dvline.com | Sales (800) 826-0556
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen van Vuuren [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:02 AM
> > To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> > Subject: RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
> >
> >
> > >Not sure I agree. We are monitoring this very closely as we have had an
> > >abnormally high failure rate on the GXP series drives. The good news is
> > that
> > >IBM replaces our RMAs quickly and often with new, not refurbished
drives.
> > >
> > >We are about to begin offering the WD 100GB drive shortly as Western
has
> > >seemed to have made a comeback. BTW, our experience with Maxtor is
almost
> > >opposite of yours. We sold a heap of them in 99/00 and our RMA
> > replacement
> > >has been very low.
> >
> > I know my experience is hardly a scientific sample and your RMA
> > numbers are
> > more indicative. My guess is my GXP bought back in January may not be
the
> > newer batch that is having problems. But my point about system cooling
is
> > still very valid as certainly by Maxtor 7200's run hotter than
> > the GXP in a
> > warmer part of the case and thus seem to burn up despite only
> > being used for
> > audio, AE rendering and misc. The Quantum Atlas IIk's in the same spot
> > (system drives) have been just fine.
> >
> > PS. What do you think the street price on the Western Digital 100
> > will be (I
> > will be in the market soon to replace my Maxtor 40's)?
> >
> > stephen
> >
> > www.xiveren.com
> >
> > "But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to
> > free your
> > heart."
> > -Homer Simpson
> >
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:44:59 -0700
From: Richard Everett Goss
To:
Subject: Re: Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
Message-ID:
Join the Cleaner list @ http://www.fido.se/Pages/maillist.html and pose the
question there..........
> From: "D P"
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:21:04 -0400
> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Subject: Quicktime Compression for CD-ROM
>
> Hello All. I was wondering if there is a table or guide
> out there on the web that compares different
> movie size/codec/file size/quality/etc. information.
>
> I'm trying to find out the best way to compress about an hour of 320x240
> imbedded QT movies that would run off of an educational CDROM. The html and
> various other documents would take up about 100-120 MB, leaving me the
> remainder of the CD for the movies.
>
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank You
> Dan Porvin
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:45:58 -0700
From: Eric Braun
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: Hi8 -> DV a Work-Around
Message-ID: <3B740FC6.B498A89@quarterbyte.com>
I do appreciate your responses... I'm almost there, I think.
I have Premiere installed on my Fujitsu portable and it works fine
there, too. But the 2 gig limit applies there also, as it's just a
generic Premiere/firewire install. It DEFINITELY has something to do
with Pinnacle's plug-ins. I have re-installed numerous times, but no
success.
I am using a 20 gig drive as the system drive for Windows NT 4.0,
Premiere and all supporting stuff. Then I have 2 40 gig drives ganged
together as a RAID 0 pair exclusively for the .avi files.
BTW, other than this problem it all works flawlessly. The IDE RAID pair
provides performance that's over 10x what's necessary for DV! I tried
this about 4 years ago when Ultra-Wide SCSI could just barely do it. I
guess I over compensated. Wow! What a difference a few years makes in hi
tech!
- Eric
Hi again ,
Sorry for the late reply but workin on a HD Feature....
Man! your having no luck with this...... it must be something
with your Pinnacle System?
We have a TRV120 and an Ibook 2001...works fine...
Question: Are you using a 2nd Video Drive?
I know that if you use only One drive, Audio may
not work properly...The only thing I can suggest is to re-install
your software.. I'm hoping tha other PC users on the list will
kick-in to give a helping hand?
Em
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:49:31 -0400
From: Kevin O'Hanlon
To:
Subject: Re: Problem with IBM Drives?
Message-ID:
I do have a 40 gig deckstarr that died a few months ago which is going back
to the shop soon.
K.
----------------
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Videographer/Director
119 East 60th Street
New York, New York 10022
212.319.6135
917.626-6356
Fax: 419.828.5735
> From: "Dick Lague"
> Reply-To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:34:34 -0700
> To:
> Subject: Re: Problem with IBM Drives?
>
> we have 4 60 G IBM drives running in a couple of IDE RAIDS and are very
> happy with them so far.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:32 AM
> Subject: RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
>
>
>>> PS. What do you think the street price on the Western Digital 100
>>> will be (I
>>> will be in the market soon to replace my Maxtor 40's)?
>>
>> The 80GB is selling around $260 on the pricewatch sites; figure $290 out
> of
>> the gate for the 100GB. If you are buying on the street, there is a
> company
>> called Drivedeals that is very reputable and has great prices.
>>
>> To be clear, we really like the performance of the IBMs and the company
> does
>> stand behind the drives 100%. I would agree with you that keeping drives
>> cool will definitely extend their life.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ken Bell
>> ---
>> DVLine - DV/MPEG2 Video Production Solutions
>> http://www.dvline.com | Sales (800) 826-0556
>> Fax (847) 556-0887 | Support (970) 622-8088
>> Microsoft Certified Professionals
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Stephen van Vuuren [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:02 AM
>>> To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
>>> Subject: RE: Problem with IBM Drives?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not sure I agree. We are monitoring this very closely as we have had an
>>>> abnormally high failure rate on the GXP series drives. The good news is
>>> that
>>>> IBM replaces our RMAs quickly and often with new, not refurbished
> drives.
>>>>
>>>> We are about to begin offering the WD 100GB drive shortly as Western
> has
>>>> seemed to have made a comeback. BTW, our experience with Maxtor is
> almost
>>>> opposite of yours. We sold a heap of them in 99/00 and our RMA
>>> replacement
>>>> has been very low.
>>>
>>> I know my experience is hardly a scientific sample and your RMA
>>> numbers are
>>> more indicative. My guess is my GXP bought back in January may not be
> the
>>> newer batch that is having problems. But my point about system cooling
> is
>>> still very valid as certainly by Maxtor 7200's run hotter than
>>> the GXP in a
>>> warmer part of the case and thus seem to burn up despite only
>>> being used for
>>> audio, AE rendering and misc. The Quantum Atlas IIk's in the same spot
>>> (system drives) have been just fine.
>>>
>>> PS. What do you think the street price on the Western Digital 100
>>> will be (I
>>> will be in the market soon to replace my Maxtor 40's)?
>>>
>>> stephen
>>>
>>> www.xiveren.com
>>>
>>> "But you know something? Sometimes you have to break the rules to
>>> free your
>>> heart."
>>> -Homer Simpson
>>>
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:53:48 -0700
From: Daniel Krause
To: DV List
Subject: Re: Sound in FCP
Message-ID:
On 1/3/04 3:06 AM, "Burrill Crohn" wrote:
> What happens when you slow or speed up a clip in FCP1.2.5, or fit to fill
> which does the same....does the audio keep its pitch or does it slow down or
> speed up accordingly.
It changes speed with picture.
-------------------------------------------------------
"Powder is major."
- Cindy Crawford, BASIC FACE
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:14:03 +0200
From: "Guenter Huber"
To: "DV L"
Subject: Re: Hi8 -> DV a Work-Around
Message-ID: <000f01c121d9$f5a055b0$7a3e1e0a@GY>
Hey Eric, as you may have read, Walt gave a detailed explanation of all the
V8/Hi8 sound variants, but I get the impression that you may have problems
with DV Type 1 and 2 files, where Type 2 is the compatibility version where
the sound is both in the DV stream and in an extra track in the same file.
(as far I understand and can describe it)
I have no experience how Premiere 6 reacts to this, but it could be one
simple format bit set wrong in the header,...
Cheers
G
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:18:21 +0200
From: "Guenter Huber"
To: "DV L"
Subject: Re: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Message-ID: <001001c121d9$f63f2dc0$7a3e1e0a@GY>
I used to buy Sony electronics without checking any tests for decades, but I
must admit with the laptops you better compare.
My first gen all in one 737 worked well and the battery was like new after
two years (3hrs).
The dsiplay hinges bent dangerously though and some little covers,.. had
come off after two years everyday use.
My current Z600 (Z505 in the US) is a VERY nice machine, Win2K extremely
stable on it, but the battery went dead after 7 months and 320 charging
cycles (6 months 300 cycles warranty limit).
The triple capacity one - up to the task, but not as sleek as the machine
itself - is a ridiculous $350 here. The mains adapter another embarrassing
$110!
With recent models Sony seems to have lost sight of appropriate pricing,
especially in the current slump. I can get equally equipped Compacs or Dells
for two thirds the price. The R-Series styling is very nice, yes, and the
latest GRs look promising, but...?
So I´ve begun eyeing a Dell Inspirion 8100 which includes a 1394 too and
Dell seems to calculate accessories in cents as opposed to Sony in rounded
100s. A mains adapter is a mere $35.27 (mind the cents - 562.whatever
Austrian Schillings) or so and a 56 Ah battery is around $120 here.
Regrads
G
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:05:19 -0600
From: "Kenneth S. Bell"
To:
Subject: Tiger K7 Listed at Ingram
Message-ID:
Greetings,
For those awaiting inexpensive motherboards to build dual Athlon video
editing workstations, the Tyan Tiger K7 has been SKUd up at Ingram Micro.
Cost is listing at around $210.00, so the webstores should have them for
under $200 when it ships in the next few weeks. Save a couple hundred on the
mobo, a couple hundred on surrounding pieces and several hundred on IDE vs
SCSI and you have a box that will be nearly a thousand bucks less than
currently available with the Thunder K7 board.
To recap, no 460watt PS necessary, registered DDRAM and support for
Palominos up to 1.2GHz. There is nothing listed as to onboard IDE RAID, but
there is supposed to be a version with it later.
I cannot speak yet about the new Pinnacle Pro-ONE due to NDA, but I do have
one set up and running. I am working with Pinnacle on being able to get some
info out to you guys on this cool new product.
Thanks,
Ken Bell
---
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http://www.dvline.com | Sales (800) 826-0556
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:56:21 -0400
From: Neil Goldberg
To:
Subject: Capturing desktop actions to Quicktime
Message-ID:
I'd be interested in finding a way to record action on my Apple Desktop to
Quicktime, ultimately for compositing with other footage in FCP and printing
to DV. For instance, I'd love to capture movement through a pulldown menu or
scrolling through a Finder list view. I know I could animate this After
Effects, but am looking for a simpler way. Any thoughts would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Best,
Neil
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:40:58 -0700
From: John Hemenway
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Capturing desktop actions to QuickTime
Message-ID:
>I'd be interested in finding a way to record action on my Apple Desktop to
>Quicktime, ultimately for compositing with other footage in FCP and printing
>to DV. For instance, I'd love to capture movement through a pulldown menu or
>scrolling through a Finder list view. I know I could animate this After
>Effects, but am looking for a simpler way. Any thoughts would be greatly
>appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
Three ways to accomplish this.
1. Video the monitor. Works best w/ flat panel displays (no flicker).
2. Use screen capture software (sorry, name escapes me at the moment).
3. Use video card w/ video out like ATI Xclaim VR 128 and tape it directly.
Option 1 requires some precise setup.
Option 2 does not have very high frame rates.
I personally use option 3.
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
John Hemenway Santa Rosa Junior College
jhemenway@santarosa.edu 707/527-4748
http://www.santarosa.edu/~jhemenw
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:05:40 -0400
From: Joe Maller
To:
Subject: Re: Capturing desktop actions to Quicktime
Message-ID:
list@neilgoldberg.com wrote:
> I'd be interested in finding a way to record action on my Apple Desktop to
> Quicktime, ultimately for compositing with other footage in FCP and printing
> to DV. For instance, I'd love to capture movement through a pulldown menu or
> scrolling through a Finder list view. I know I could animate this After
> Effects, but am looking for a simpler way. Any thoughts would be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Snapz Pro from Ambrosia is frequently used on Macs for recording the screen.
It's also incredibly useful for taking screenshots of menus and other
system-related onscreen events.
Snapz is shareware from Ambrosia:
http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/
Another method, if you have the hardware available, is to record the SVideo
output from a PowerBook.
The main thing is to limit the screen size to 640x480, otherwise it's hard
to read anything because of video's lower resolution.
Joe Maller
------------------------
http://www.joemaller.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:30:47 -0700
From: Evan Robinson
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: If not Sony -- How about Dell Laptops ???
Message-ID:
I had a horrific experience with Gateway when ordering one of the
servers. I cannot recommend them just because of their lack of
customer service sensibility.
Compaq had great response to customer service problems.
Unfortunately, I *had* several customer service problems. They took
good care of me, though, and my wife is still using the laptop I had
trouble with (and pretty happily).
My best experience for video on a laptop has been with a Powerbook
firewire (aka "Pismo"). The Mac is, frankly but IMO, not rock solid,
but it's close, and it's easy to restore when there's been a problem.
I've heard that the Ti Powerbooks have speed problems with their
firewire ports, and the iBook has only one, which is a drag if you
want to capture to an external drive occasionally (which I do). You
might be able to latch on to a now-discontinued Pismo (400 or 500 Mhz
G3) on the web or through someone you know at Apple. But you can't
have mine. ;-)
Evan
At 5:21 AM -0700 on 2001.08.10, tmb wrote about "If not Sony -- How
about Dell Laptops ???":
>In response to the...
>
>"I would not reccomend a Sony Laptop again" thread...
>
>I also have heard bad stuff about Sony Laptops.
>
>What about Dell Laptops?
>What about Gateway?
>
>Thanks for any comments - tmb
>
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:40:37 -0700
From: "Alexei Gerulaitis"
To:
Subject: DVStorm/ dual Athlon performance
Message-ID: <03d901c12206$9f8842a0$6701a8c0@dv411.com>
Here are the results of a few tests we did on our first dual Athlon MP /
Storm system. Anyone with a fairly fast Storm or Raptor RT or RexRT
Pro system, could you please post your results? Any other tests you
would like us to try? Thanks!
PowerEdit/Storm 760MP/A NLE System:
. Canopus DVStorm AP
. Tyan Thunder K7 (S2462UNG)
. Dual Athlon MP 1.2GHz CPUs
. 1GB DDR RAM PC2100 ECC
. G450 DH 32MB AGP
. 40GB System Drive 7200rpm ATA100
. 120GB Internal Video Storage (dual 60GB drives)
. http://dv411.com/pestorm760mpa.html
Test results:
Real Time Capabilities - 3 video layers / 10 graphical layers (no
rendering)
Effects rendering - 5 video PiP
860 frame render
1:01 render time
14 frames per second
Effects rendering - 3 motion blur
699 frame render
1:13 render time
9.5 frames per second
MPEG2 Output - Highest Image Quality - Timeline export (3 video layers /
10 graphic layers)
2390 frame render
3:31 render time
11.4 frames per second
Best,
Alexei, http://dv411.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 20:33:08 -0600
From: Steve Slocomb
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: help-lighting inside car - night
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010810202208.00acf3e0@mail.montana.com>
At 05:01 PM 8/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
>I'd add to Blain's list the 12v battery powered fluorescent tube fittings
>that are sold to fit in caravans (trailers to you folks over the pond). They
>are pretty cheap and automatically will be high frequency. The ones I have
I'll second that...any RV (Recreational Vehicles-we do love our toys big
over here) supply store has them. If the color is weird (which I haven't
found to be the case-just white balance to them) you can get 'minus green
gels" at a motion picture supply store. You can also sometimes find some
really tiny 12 volt flourescents at camping supply stores that run on
batteries. Also many of the "under the counter lights" for home use are
really 12 volts (just bypass the transformer--though they may be too
bright), and of course any auto store has lots of little 12 volt bulbs
which when wrapped in some diffusion work fine. There are endless solutions
to this issue...but it is handy to have some ND gels and diffusion to help
things out.
Steve Slocomb
Looking Glass Films
Hamilton, Montana, USA
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:41:30 -0400
From: John Jackman
To:
Subject: Re: PAL or NTSC for transfer to film?
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010810232925.00b091a0@pop.compuserve.com>
At 12:10 AM 8/10/01 -0700, Kipley Wentz wrote:
>My research thus far has only left me thoroughly confused with some transfer
>houses recommending that we shoot in PAL (Swiss Effects, for example), and
>others recommending that we shoot in NTSC (Duart, among others).
First, let me ask the nasty question: do you NEED to do a film print? Very
expensive, often not justified IMHO. Your decision, but make sure you've
got a well-thought out rationale, don't do it "just because."
If your answer is "yes," then pick a lab and stick with their
recommendations ABSOLUTELY. Each has a slightly different process that is
optimised in different ways.
A couple of the labs have told me that their NTSC conversion systems using
motion correction, etc have gotten so good that it is on par with PAL
origination. The one caveat is that this is only true if you use film
rules for shooting, certain motion artifacts are juddery no matter what
format you originate in if your don't shoot with good film technique for
pan rates, motivated pans, etc.
All three cameras you mentioned have done very well in this arena. The
Canon has a lot of fans who like it's "out-of-the-box" stock look, but I
think that the added controls of the Sony cams give more flexibility. The
new Canon adds some of these. The one downside to the VX1000 is poor low
light performance, but I would assume you are using proper film-style
lighting, too...right?
John Jackman
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:09:25 -0400
From: C2001
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: PAL or NTSC for transfer to film?
Message-ID: <3B74AFF5.63FA4F57@sympatico.ca>
John Jackman wrote:
>
> A couple of the labs have told me that their NTSC conversion systems using
> motion correction, etc have gotten so good that it is on par with PAL
> origination. The one caveat is that this is only true if you use film
> rules for shooting, certain motion artifacts are juddery no matter what
> format you originate in if your don't shoot with good film technique for
> pan rates, motivated pans, etc.
John,
Could you be a bit more specific in discussing film rules for shooting,
to avoid judder and other undesirable motion artifacts?
This has really grabbed my attention, because in recent months I've
acquired progressive-scan display for NTSC as well as a PAL DVD player.
(Also, I don't think it's been discussed much at this list lately.)
I notice that with _both_ PAL (even interlace, but of course displayed
at 25 fps) and line-doubled NTSC from 24fps film sources (for which we
are dealing with frame rates that obviously are substantially slower
than that for NTSC interlace video), motion at certain speeds results in
very obvious (what I'll clumsily describe as) 'chop-chop-chop' effects
when people or objects move at certain moderate-to-fast speeds, as well
as when the camera is moving at such a rate. When this happens, I
become aware that I'm watching a series of still images, though the
illusion of motion is maintained, and I can't say that this bothers me.
But I virtually never notice this on regular video-sourced NTSC.
I also noticed this (though less so) when I saw "A.I." at the theatre
last June.
At some of the usenet groups where I sub there has been a lot of
discussion lately about obtaining a 'film' look on video by shooting at
24 fps (progressive). I was surprised to learn that the sitcom,
"Titus", which I don't normally watch is taped on HiDef at 24
fps/progressive; I'd made a DV copy of the episode from last February in
which David Hyde Pierce made a (hilarious) guest appearance. The show
does seem to have the brighter overall lighting we associate with TV
programs shot on video rather than film; of course, what I saw and taped
(from digital cable) was standard NTSC downconverted (including 3:2
pulldown) from the HDTV master -- but it never occurred to me that this
was shot on video rather than film.
Charles
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:56:04 EDT
From: Triglyph@aol.com
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: help-lighting inside car - night
Message-ID: <97.19959f98.28a614e4@aol.com>
In a message dated 8/10/01 7:34:40 PM, video@montana.com writes:
<< >I'd add to Blain's list the 12v battery powered fluorescent tube fittings
>that are sold to fit in caravans (trailers to you folks over the pond). They
>are pretty cheap and automatically will be high frequency. >>
Very interesting, I'll look into these. The fact that they are high
frequency is especially useful.
There's always something new on the market. I always try to "talk shop" with
my electricians because they have often been working on some new movie or
video project with a different gaffer or DP who has some new ideas/new toys.
It's the new ideas that make this a fun job (that and a lot of other things).
This question has produced some very interesting responses. Always a
reminder that there are MANY ways to solve any lighting problem AND that a
few suggestions are always helpful. The day I ignore a helpful suggestion
from a fellow artist is the day I know I'm no longer interested enough to do
this job.
cheers,
Blain
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:38:03 -0700
From: Michael Clayton
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Best Pocket Firewire HD?
Message-ID: <3B74C4BC.D3F54DCF@earthlink.net>
Looking for a 20 Gig pocket firewire hard drive to use with a G4 Titanium for some video editing while traveling. Suggestions and experiences?
Thanks-
Mike
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:20:30 -1100
From: "TJ Lavata'i"
To:
Subject: Re: CD Rom authoring
Message-ID: <002b01c121e2$49101200$7f4b4dc6@lavapro>
Hi,
Multi-Media Builder is what I use - it's quick and easy.
www.mediachance.com
TJ Lavata'i
| Hi list,
|
| Could anyone direct me to a site where I can learn more about authoring a
CD
| ROM. I'm looking to create a simple browser based CD to AutoPlay a quick
| flash movie and then present a template to select video clips.
|
|
| Many thanks and warm regards,
|
| K.
|
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| Kevin O'Hanlon
| Videographer/Director
| 119 East 60th Street
| New York, New York 10022
|
| 212.319.6135
| 917.626-6356
| Fax: 419.828.5735
|
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