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Old July 30th, 2007, 09:58 AM   #1
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Hardware advice for new computer

I'm having a new computer built soon- just have to decide what components to put in it and I would be grateful for advice. I'll be buying CS3 to edit footage from a Canon XH-A1, plus doing lots of Photoshopping on still images, plus using the machine for day to day surfing, emailing, games, etc.
Suggestions for video card, processor, motherboard, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Old July 30th, 2007, 11:52 AM   #2
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Old July 30th, 2007, 12:06 PM   #3
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I'm not going to be buying a turnkey type box- I'm having one built from scratch. Thanks for the link though, it gives me a rough idea of where to start.
At this point I'm looking at a motherboard that will accomodate a Quad Core processor but I think I'm going to put a Duo Core processor in there to save $200, with the ability to upgrade in the future. Other stuff: an EVGA 768mb video card, 4g ram and raid 5. Pricing things out anyway. Any thoughts on the Raid 5 or video card? My computer guy suggested them and I'd like to hear confirmation that it's the way to go.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 01:17 PM   #4
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I can tell you that you will want a video card that has Component outputs because you can't preview over firewire like you can with DV.

The NVidia Quadro FX-560 will do the job.

I like the way I arranged my hard drives.

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Old July 30th, 2007, 01:32 PM   #5
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Forgive my ignorance... lots to learn, RAID0 for your video (2 hd's), and a seperate drive for the scratch disc-- my question is about the scratch disc- is that not part of RAID? That confuses me.
Thanks for the tip re. the video card- hadn't looked to see if it had component out. I was under the assumption that I could use one of the two DVI outs for an external monitor- is that not correct?
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Old July 30th, 2007, 01:38 PM   #6
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Greg,

My suggestion is, no matter what you build, don't use your editing computer for email and surfing, it can mess them up really bad. Best to use another for that. You can put anti-virus and such on it, but then it tends to slow the computer down. A cheap computer will work just about as good for surfing and such because it will not be the computer that slows you down, it will be your internet connection.

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Old July 30th, 2007, 01:45 PM   #7
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Thanks Mike for the advice- I'm looking into the goods and the bads of that route right now.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 03:38 PM   #8
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OK, an explanation.

The fast drive for programs and memory swapping

The RAID0 for captured material only

The third drive for projects and the associated scratch files, previews, media cache, stc.

The previews are single streams. The captured material is often multiple streams. I avoid putting the projects and the captured material together. You want to be able to read from all drives at once when needed.

In Premiere Pro, you can set where you want the scratch disks to be. Each time you change projects you would have to change your settings. I put mine with the project. Changing projects automatically changes the scratch location to the appropriate directory. It keeps it all together and makes it easy to keep track of.

DVI to a monitor is OK. But it isn't as good as having Component out, in my opinion.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 03:50 PM   #9
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Thanks! Appreciated and understood.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 04:04 PM   #10
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I know these kinds of threads can be tedious for those of you who've been there done that... but for people building their first system hopefully this will be helpful.
Anyhow- I'm going to use this box just for editing now. Given that, it appears that the video card eVGA 8800 is overkill and added to that it doesn't have component video out. That narrows things down to these recommended cards: Nvidia Quadro 1500 ($600), Nvidia Quadro 560 ($275) or the Matrox Parhelia APVe ($320). I'm going with a Quad Core and 4g of ram, suitable power supply, SB X-FI sound card and I've got to decide on that video card. Anybody care to offer their opinion one way or another?
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Old July 30th, 2007, 06:36 PM   #11
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If you need a new monitor, you can't go wrong with the 24" Dell(two would be better). Iv'e been really impressed with it.
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Old July 31st, 2007, 02:52 PM   #12
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I can't seem to find the Nvidia Quadro 560 card that has component video out- can you point me to it?
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Old July 31st, 2007, 02:54 PM   #13
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Nevermind- found it on the PNY site:
NVIDIA Quadro® FX 560 PVE PCIE Part No. VCQFX560-PCIE-PB-V
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Old July 31st, 2007, 02:56 PM   #14
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http://www.nvidia.com/page/qfx_el.html

Look under features and benefits and you will find:

HD Component Out
Enables preview of video content in true color on a broadcast monitor or HDTV.
*Available on NVIDIA Quadro FX 560 and 540.
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Old July 31st, 2007, 05:27 PM   #15
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Thanks Steven- I've added that card to the cart, so to speak. Here's my list so far:
-Gigabyte Aurora full tower case
-Intel BOXD975XBX2KR or ASUS P5N32 motherboard. ASUS is quad core Intel isn't. Haven't made up my mind on that yet.
-Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 CPU
-4g ram
-Antec TruePower TRIO 650w power supply
-NVIDIA Quadro® FX 560 PVE PCIE video card
-Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme sound card (I don't plan on doing major sound work for a while yet).
-Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives (4)
-Liteon LH-20A1P 20X Dual Layer DVD±RW Drive
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