JVC Pro HD and Adobe Premiere Pro

Jerry Porter · January 9th, 2007, 12:22 PM

The trial versions won't let you record. Does quick time Pro have a live recording feature? Also how are you going to get it into the computer? The only uncompressed outputs on the 100 or 110 are the analog outs.

Joshua Clarke · January 9th, 2007, 01:01 PM

Daniel, I checked into DVRack last night. They say you cannot record with the demo version.

Jerry, this is exactly why I needed your help. I did not know the Firewire connection wasn't uncompressed. Thank you very much.

I played around with the camera and Premiere after I posted. It seems as though I was able to capture SD and HDV through firewire, but it didn't seem to be uncompressed. Also, I don't know if because the camera wasn't recording, there was a change in quality.

I think after some consideration and talking with my partner, we're going to attempt FC. A friend of our's says he's used d2d with success and no additional software or hardware on FC. But again, this would be through firewire and not component.

Sometimes I regret not fully pursuing film...

Paolo Ciccone · January 9th, 2007, 01:45 PM

Joshua.
The FW connection will give you the same result of what you record on tape. Unless you can use a card like the AJA with component input you are better off by just recording to tape and then ingest the footage traditionally.

Ken Hodson · January 9th, 2007, 07:44 PM

VLC videoLAN player has a stream capture function. Do a global search of all forums and see what you come up with. It's free.

Joshua Clarke · January 10th, 2007, 10:42 AM

Paolo, thank you. I think that's what I need to do and just hope and pray my limited abilities can carry the project.

Thank you all for your advice and help. This is a truly remarkable forum where novices like myself can get real assistance from down to earth professionals.

Alexander Kristiansen · January 17th, 2007, 06:55 AM

Which NLE supports 720/50p from JVC GY-HD201/251?

Mike Schell · January 20th, 2007, 09:47 PM

I don't think any NLE has CODEC support for the 720p50 / 60 CODEC. We offer an HDMI -> HD-SDI converter (HD-Connect MI) which works with all JVC tape formats

Antony Michael Wilson · January 21st, 2007, 07:47 AM

AFAIK, Liquid will work fine with HDV1 720p/50 and 60 even though it is not officially supported. Maybe Stephen Noe can jump in on this.

The Convergent box is fine as long as you HAVE HD SDI or HDMI ingest capability. Many HDxxx users do not.

Alexander Kristiansen · January 23rd, 2007, 02:46 AM

What about Adobe Premiere Pro with Cineform Aspect HD, does this support 50p?

Dave Carson · March 25th, 2007, 01:52 AM

Okay, So i filmed in 30fps, 720 output.
Trying to edit it in PP2.

I can control the camera from capture, but no picture and it keeps telling me the camera has shut off yet it hasn't.

The record in pp2 is ready to record, but nothing is ever recorded. I've spent almost 5 hours trying to do this.

Can anyone please give me a walk through...

Brian Orser · April 1st, 2007, 04:35 PM

Hey guys, I'm trying to capture some 480/24p footage shot on the HD110U into Premiere 1.5. I've gotten it to work, I guess. But I think my pixel aspect ratio is off, or something else, because the footage looks weird, and some of it wont play back correctly in Premiere or VLC.

How does one correctly capture 24p DV footage into Premiere Pro 1.5? What are the appropriate project/capture settings?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Eugen Oprina · April 1st, 2007, 04:59 PM

You have to install Aspect HD . This solved all my problems in premiere.
Good luck
Eugen

Brian Orser · April 1st, 2007, 05:36 PM

Thank you Eugen. However, I thought I should be able to do SD 24p without Aspect HD. Is that incorrect?

I'll be getting Aspect HD then. Thank you.

But, is it true that one can't properly capture DV 480/24p footage with Premiere Pro 1.5.1?

Brian Orser · April 1st, 2007, 10:05 PM

Update:

I realize I didn't describe the problem very well. The playback of the footage is juddering, and the aspect ratio is off. It looks squashed horizontally. I can conform it in Premiere back to 16:9, but when I try exporting it, it oges back to the weird squashed aspect.

Help?

Brian Orser · April 2nd, 2007, 11:25 PM

Sorry, but, *Bump*

No one has any ideas? Would it help if I posted footage?

January 9th, 2007, 01:01 PM	#92
Joshua Clarke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 88	Daniel, I checked into DVRack last night. They say you cannot record with the demo version. Jerry, this is exactly why I needed your help. I did not know the Firewire connection wasn't uncompressed. Thank you very much. I played around with the camera and Premiere after I posted. It seems as though I was able to capture SD and HDV through firewire, but it didn't seem to be uncompressed. Also, I don't know if because the camera wasn't recording, there was a change in quality. I think after some consideration and talking with my partner, we're going to attempt FC. A friend of our's says he's used d2d with success and no additional software or hardware on FC. But again, this would be through firewire and not component. Sometimes I regret not fully pursuing film... __________________ Section 1 Films

January 9th, 2007, 01:45 PM	#93
Paolo Ciccone Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,116	Joshua. The FW connection will give you the same result of what you record on tape. Unless you can use a card like the AJA with component input you are better off by just recording to tape and then ingest the footage traditionally. __________________ Paolo http://www.paolociccone.com Demo Reel

January 9th, 2007, 07:44 PM	#94
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	VLC videoLAN player has a stream capture function. Do a global search of all forums and see what you come up with. It's free. __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

January 10th, 2007, 10:42 AM	#95
Joshua Clarke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 88	Paolo, thank you. I think that's what I need to do and just hope and pray my limited abilities can carry the project. Thank you all for your advice and help. This is a truly remarkable forum where novices like myself can get real assistance from down to earth professionals. __________________ Section 1 Films

January 17th, 2007, 06:55 AM	#96
Alexander Kristiansen New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17	720/50p support Which NLE supports 720/50p from JVC GY-HD201/251?

January 9th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#91
Jerry Porter Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Satellite Beach, Fl Posts: 784	The trial versions won't let you record. Does quick time Pro have a live recording feature? Also how are you going to get it into the computer? The only uncompressed outputs on the 100 or 110 are the analog outs.

January 20th, 2007, 09:47 PM	#97
Mike Schell Convergent Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 869	I don't think any NLE has CODEC support for the 720p50 / 60 CODEC. We offer an HDMI -> HD-SDI converter (HD-Connect MI) which works with all JVC tape formats __________________ Mike Schell Convergent Design

January 21st, 2007, 07:47 AM	#98
Antony Michael Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 343	AFAIK, Liquid will work fine with HDV1 720p/50 and 60 even though it is not officially supported. Maybe Stephen Noe can jump in on this. The Convergent box is fine as long as you HAVE HD SDI or HDMI ingest capability. Many HDxxx users do not.

January 23rd, 2007, 02:46 AM	#99
Alexander Kristiansen New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17	What about Adobe Premiere Pro with Cineform ASpect HD? What about Adobe Premiere Pro with Cineform Aspect HD, does this support 50p?

March 25th, 2007, 01:52 AM	#100
Dave Carson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 32	premiere pro2 and hd110 Okay, So i filmed in 30fps, 720 output. Trying to edit it in PP2. I can control the camera from capture, but no picture and it keeps telling me the camera has shut off yet it hasn't. The record in pp2 is ready to record, but nothing is ever recorded. I've spent almost 5 hours trying to do this. Can anyone please give me a walk through...

April 1st, 2007, 04:35 PM	#101
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	DV 24p Capture - Premiere 1.5 Hey guys, I'm trying to capture some 480/24p footage shot on the HD110U into Premiere 1.5. I've gotten it to work, I guess. But I think my pixel aspect ratio is off, or something else, because the footage looks weird, and some of it wont play back correctly in Premiere or VLC. How does one correctly capture 24p DV footage into Premiere Pro 1.5? What are the appropriate project/capture settings? Thanks in advance for your help. __________________ Brian Orser

April 1st, 2007, 04:59 PM	#102
Eugen Oprina Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bucharest Romania Posts: 221	You have to install Aspect HD . This solved all my problems in premiere. Good luck Eugen

April 1st, 2007, 05:36 PM	#103
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Thank you Eugen. However, I thought I should be able to do SD 24p without Aspect HD. Is that incorrect? I'll be getting Aspect HD then. Thank you. But, is it true that one can't properly capture DV 480/24p footage with Premiere Pro 1.5.1? __________________ Brian Orser

April 1st, 2007, 10:05 PM	#104
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Update: I realize I didn't describe the problem very well. The playback of the footage is juddering, and the aspect ratio is off. It looks squashed horizontally. I can conform it in Premiere back to 16:9, but when I try exporting it, it oges back to the weird squashed aspect. Help? __________________ Brian Orser

April 2nd, 2007, 11:25 PM	#105
Brian Orser Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 87	Sorry, but, Bump No one has any ideas? Would it help if I posted footage? __________________ Brian Orser