No scene detect on HDV Capture?!?!? at DVinfo.net

Steve Lewis · May 3rd, 2009, 11:41 PM

Uh, seriously Adobe? Really? Are you smokin' the wacky tobaccy? Why can't I have my capture automatically split the clips like FCP does? Am I wrong here?

Harm Millaard · May 4th, 2009, 02:59 AM

Yes, yes, dunno, overlooked, no. Luckily there is HDVSplit to correct it.

Tyson Persall · May 4th, 2009, 04:38 AM

I know it seems dumb but "I think" the reason Premiere does not have Scene detect is that they know that will create dozens to hundreds of more files then a single file where A single file is faster for premiere then a hundred files when loading projects. Has something to do with Dynamic link checking. When premiere has to load a hundred files it can really get slowed down so they want you to just capture the entire tape as one clip for that reason. I might be wrong.

John Hewat · May 9th, 2009, 01:25 AM

It is frustrating.

And compunded by the fact that a long time ago, when I first started editing on PPro 1.5, the HDV capture of a whole hour long tape would often result in out of sunc video and audio.

And now, three versions of Premiere later, whenever I capture an entire tape, I stop it every twenty minutes just to make sure the sync issue won't crop up. I have no idea if I need to worry or not because I'm too frightened to test it out again.

But it wouldn't be an issue in most cases with scene detect.

Tyson Persall · May 10th, 2009, 04:58 PM

What is more frustrating is spending MORE time opening projects, waiting for them to load, then actually editing time spent.

Jon Geddes · May 13th, 2009, 10:28 AM

The funny thing is, is that if you have a hardware editing card installed like the Matrox RT.X2, it does allow Scene Detect on HDV capture. So premiere does support it, you just need an add-on card to make it work... unfortunately.

Maybe Adobe brokered a deal with third-party hardware manufacturers to only allow the feature to work when an add-on card was installed to give more incentive to buy them.

May 3rd, 2009, 11:41 PM	#1
Steve Lewis Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Goleta, CA Posts: 233	No scene detect on HDV Capture?!?!? Uh, seriously Adobe? Really? Are you smokin' the wacky tobaccy? Why can't I have my capture automatically split the clips like FCP does? Am I wrong here? __________________ www.spreefilms.com - Give me a museum and I'll fill it!

May 4th, 2009, 04:38 AM	#3
Tyson Persall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Hollywood, Atlanta Posts: 437	I think this may be the reason... ( anyone can confirm?) I know it seems dumb but "I think" the reason Premiere does not have Scene detect is that they know that will create dozens to hundreds of more files then a single file where A single file is faster for premiere then a hundred files when loading projects. Has something to do with Dynamic link checking. When premiere has to load a hundred files it can really get slowed down so they want you to just capture the entire tape as one clip for that reason. I might be wrong. __________________ Tyson X

May 9th, 2009, 01:25 AM	#4
John Hewat Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, AUSTRALIA Posts: 735	It is frustrating. And compunded by the fact that a long time ago, when I first started editing on PPro 1.5, the HDV capture of a whole hour long tape would often result in out of sunc video and audio. And now, three versions of Premiere later, whenever I capture an entire tape, I stop it every twenty minutes just to make sure the sync issue won't crop up. I have no idea if I need to worry or not because I'm too frightened to test it out again. But it wouldn't be an issue in most cases with scene detect. __________________ John Hewat Mammoth Media Productions

May 10th, 2009, 04:58 PM	#5
Tyson Persall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Hollywood, Atlanta Posts: 437	What is more frustrating is spending MORE time opening projects, waiting for them to load, then actually editing time spent. __________________ Tyson X

May 4th, 2009, 02:59 AM	#2
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Yes, yes, dunno, overlooked, no. Luckily there is HDVSplit to correct it.

May 13th, 2009, 10:28 AM	#6
Jon Geddes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seal Beach, California Posts: 68	The funny thing is, is that if you have a hardware editing card installed like the Matrox RT.X2, it does allow Scene Detect on HDV capture. So premiere does support it, you just need an add-on card to make it work... unfortunately. Maybe Adobe brokered a deal with third-party hardware manufacturers to only allow the feature to work when an add-on card was installed to give more incentive to buy them.