Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

James Emory · December 17th, 2005, 12:01 AM

While looking for the fix to my problem with the export movie settings, I also found that there is a patch from Windows that should fix the MPEG option issue XP SP2 users. If these links don't resolve in the future, just perform a search with the update code below at the last address.

Update: KB886716

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/r...DisplayLang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

www.microsoft.com/downloads

Mathieu Ghekiere · December 17th, 2005, 06:00 AM

Thanks for the replies.
I indeed knew that I could select them together with ALT or CTRL, but as Pat Sherman said, it seems there is no way in PPro to do it over the complete timeline BEFORE you edit your clips.

It's one of the reasons why I'll be switching over to Avid soon.
Still thanks for the replies!

Alex Boojor · December 18th, 2005, 02:10 AM

thnx for the help

James Emory · December 19th, 2005, 02:53 PM

I forgot to mention how ridiculous it is that Adobe has not included in their list of known issues the method that I managed to luckily find and use? Is it not enough that they are using their customers for free R&D on their board and they can't even post fixes in their known issues list to keep from having to sift through all those posts on their board?

Wes Coughlin · December 21st, 2005, 05:19 PM

I would transfer 60i to 24p using magic bullet or some other 3rd party plug-in. For me i fell akward mixing 24p footage ino a 30fps timline; even though you can, i just dont like the repeated frames it gives you when you dont remove the pulldown from the 24p.

Hugh DiMauro · December 22nd, 2005, 09:12 AM

Does anybody know, for certain, if PPro 1.5.1 will play nice with the new Panasonic HVX 200 and the DVC Pro HD codec? Will I need additional capture hardware?

Mo Zee · December 22nd, 2005, 09:52 AM

found the problem- it's from checking my canopus "microsoft compatible" in the capture settings. maybe this explains why the footage is clean during capture, but has glitches when playing back the file. no problem when capturing using my built-in firewire. no wonder another production house had no trouble with my footage. i still can't explain why all's ok when using the xl2 for capturing.

my new question is- it seems that premiere stores the clip's codec because when i recapture using batch capture (which was microsoft dv) the new canopus dv file won't link. would there be a workaround short of making new offline clips?

thanks.

Carl White · December 22nd, 2005, 10:45 AM

I have been a user of Premiere 6.5 and am seriously thinking about upgrading to PPro 1.5. In addition, my older Sony TRV340 has died and I need to replace it. I am looking at 3-4 camcorders from Panasonic, Canon, JVC and Sony - none of which are on the "supported hardware" list for Adobe 6.5 or PPro 1.5. So, can anyone tell me for certain if the following camcorders work with Pro 1.5: Panasonic PV-GS400; Canon GL-2; JVC GR-X5US and Sony DCR-H1000.

I know there's bound to be a bunch of pros/cons about each of the camcorders and I'll look at that but right now my primary concern is will they work with Premiere. Otherwise, I'm thinking it may be time to look at other software - if so, would Vegas work with any of these devices?

Thanks for any help.

Carl

Jean-Francois Robichaud · December 22nd, 2005, 12:24 PM

PPro certainly works with the GL2. It is actually in the list of supported camcorders. I doubt any of these other cameras would have problems with PPro. Even if not specifically in the list, it would probably work with the generic DV camcorder setting, but it's better to be sure I guess.

Mark Williams · December 22nd, 2005, 05:18 PM

Carl,

I too was looking at upgrading from 6.5 to pro. I downloaded the trial and used it for a couple of weeks. It seemed quite different to me than 6.5 and I just couldn't get comfortable with it. Learning new NLE software is not easy for me. Of course others will say that pro is a vast improvement and IMO it does have some neat features. I guess it really comes down to what type editing you do. For me, I would gain just a little additional capability.

I decided to stay with 6.5 because I mostly use disolves, cuts, some titles and that's basically it. No fancy stuff. Of course if you are moving up to HD, HDV or DVCPRO50 then that's another issue and staying in the upgrade path might also an important consideration.

Regards,

Mark

Carlos Rodriguez · December 22nd, 2005, 05:23 PM

which dvcpro hd codecs are you using?

PPro 1.5.1 I'm sure is only written with cineform codecs for HDV, therefore providing acceleration only for those formats. It's worth a shot though, I know HD's been dumped into premiere.

Might wanna have a looksee at prospectHD by cineform.

love peace and chicken grease

Chris Barcellos · December 22nd, 2005, 06:41 PM

I am a former 6.5 user. I stepped up to PP 1.51 because of addition of HD. I have to believe that anything 6.5 supported would be supported by PP. It works with my FX1, in the DV mode, or HD mode, my VX2k as well as older cameras. I have the Panosonic GS 120, and it uploads fine. Most of my DV material actually goes through an cheap Sharp WD250u I bought refurbished and use as a deck to upload DV material. I ve never had problems 1.51 in using any of those to up load DV to edit.

I think Premiere users can adapt more easily to PP 1.51, than say learning Vegas. I am trying that, but keep going back to PP if I am in a hurry.

Chris Barcellos

Roy Bemelmans · December 23rd, 2005, 04:54 AM

Does Premiere Pro's HDV plugin offer native HDV editing or does it use a digital intermediate?

Hugh DiMauro · December 23rd, 2005, 08:13 AM

I will look into that, comrade! Thank you. I know it takes HDV but I think we're all trying to get away from that because of the long GOP and frame by frame editing issues. DVC PRO HD seems to be the way to go.

Carl White · December 23rd, 2005, 08:42 AM

Thanks for the help. I feel reasonably confident that whichever camera I end up deciding on it will work with Premier (either 6.5 or Pro 1.5). Now, the hard part - choosing the camcorder. I've at least pretty much narrowed it down to either the Canon GL2 or Panasonic GS400.

Carl

December 17th, 2005, 12:01 AM	#2056
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Windows Patch for MPEG Encoder While looking for the fix to my problem with the export movie settings, I also found that there is a patch from Windows that should fix the MPEG option issue XP SP2 users. If these links don't resolve in the future, just perform a search with the update code below at the last address. Update: KB886716 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/r...DisplayLang=en http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en www.microsoft.com/downloads

December 21st, 2005, 05:19 PM	#2060
Wes Coughlin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 206	I would transfer 60i to 24p using magic bullet or some other 3rd party plug-in. For me i fell akward mixing 24p footage ino a 30fps timline; even though you can, i just dont like the repeated frames it gives you when you dont remove the pulldown from the 24p. __________________ http://wildlookout.com

December 22nd, 2005, 09:12 AM	#2061
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	PPro 1.5.1 and the Panasonic HVX 200 Does anybody know, for certain, if PPro 1.5.1 will play nice with the new Panasonic HVX 200 and the DVC Pro HD codec? Will I need additional capture hardware? __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

December 22nd, 2005, 09:52 AM	#2062
Mo Zee Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: manila, philippines Posts: 102	found the problem- it's from checking my canopus "microsoft compatible" in the capture settings. maybe this explains why the footage is clean during capture, but has glitches when playing back the file. no problem when capturing using my built-in firewire. no wonder another production house had no trouble with my footage. i still can't explain why all's ok when using the xl2 for capturing. my new question is- it seems that premiere stores the clip's codec because when i recapture using batch capture (which was microsoft dv) the new canopus dv file won't link. would there be a workaround short of making new offline clips? thanks. Last edited by Mo Zee; December 22nd, 2005 at 11:00 AM.

December 22nd, 2005, 10:45 AM	#2063
Carl White Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 27	PPro Compatibility with Panasonic, Canon, etc. I have been a user of Premiere 6.5 and am seriously thinking about upgrading to PPro 1.5. In addition, my older Sony TRV340 has died and I need to replace it. I am looking at 3-4 camcorders from Panasonic, Canon, JVC and Sony - none of which are on the "supported hardware" list for Adobe 6.5 or PPro 1.5. So, can anyone tell me for certain if the following camcorders work with Pro 1.5: Panasonic PV-GS400; Canon GL-2; JVC GR-X5US and Sony DCR-H1000. I know there's bound to be a bunch of pros/cons about each of the camcorders and I'll look at that but right now my primary concern is will they work with Premiere. Otherwise, I'm thinking it may be time to look at other software - if so, would Vegas work with any of these devices? Thanks for any help. Carl

December 17th, 2005, 06:00 AM	#2057
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Thanks for the replies. I indeed knew that I could select them together with ALT or CTRL, but as Pat Sherman said, it seems there is no way in PPro to do it over the complete timeline BEFORE you edit your clips. It's one of the reasons why I'll be switching over to Avid soon. Still thanks for the replies!

December 18th, 2005, 02:10 AM	#2058
Alex Boojor New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10	thnx for the help

December 19th, 2005, 02:53 PM	#2059
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	I forgot to mention how ridiculous it is that Adobe has not included in their list of known issues the method that I managed to luckily find and use? Is it not enough that they are using their customers for free R&D on their board and they can't even post fixes in their known issues list to keep from having to sift through all those posts on their board?

December 22nd, 2005, 12:24 PM	#2064
Jean-Francois Robichaud Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 142	PPro certainly works with the GL2. It is actually in the list of supported camcorders. I doubt any of these other cameras would have problems with PPro. Even if not specifically in the list, it would probably work with the generic DV camcorder setting, but it's better to be sure I guess. __________________ JF Robichaud

December 22nd, 2005, 05:18 PM	#2065
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Carl, I too was looking at upgrading from 6.5 to pro. I downloaded the trial and used it for a couple of weeks. It seemed quite different to me than 6.5 and I just couldn't get comfortable with it. Learning new NLE software is not easy for me. Of course others will say that pro is a vast improvement and IMO it does have some neat features. I guess it really comes down to what type editing you do. For me, I would gain just a little additional capability. I decided to stay with 6.5 because I mostly use disolves, cuts, some titles and that's basically it. No fancy stuff. Of course if you are moving up to HD, HDV or DVCPRO50 then that's another issue and staying in the upgrade path might also an important consideration. Regards, Mark Last edited by Mark Williams; December 23rd, 2005 at 10:59 AM.

December 22nd, 2005, 05:23 PM	#2066
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	codec which dvcpro hd codecs are you using? PPro 1.5.1 I'm sure is only written with cineform codecs for HDV, therefore providing acceleration only for those formats. It's worth a shot though, I know HD's been dumped into premiere. Might wanna have a looksee at prospectHD by cineform. love peace and chicken grease

December 22nd, 2005, 06:41 PM	#2067
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Pro 1.51 Should be just fine I am a former 6.5 user. I stepped up to PP 1.51 because of addition of HD. I have to believe that anything 6.5 supported would be supported by PP. It works with my FX1, in the DV mode, or HD mode, my VX2k as well as older cameras. I have the Panosonic GS 120, and it uploads fine. Most of my DV material actually goes through an cheap Sharp WD250u I bought refurbished and use as a deck to upload DV material. I ve never had problems 1.51 in using any of those to up load DV to edit. I think Premiere users can adapt more easily to PP 1.51, than say learning Vegas. I am trying that, but keep going back to PP if I am in a hurry. Chris Barcellos

December 23rd, 2005, 04:54 AM	#2068
Roy Bemelmans Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 52	HDV plugin: native HDV editing? Does Premiere Pro's HDV plugin offer native HDV editing or does it use a digital intermediate?

December 23rd, 2005, 08:13 AM	#2069
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	I will look into that, comrade! Thank you. I know it takes HDV but I think we're all trying to get away from that because of the long GOP and frame by frame editing issues. DVC PRO HD seems to be the way to go. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

December 23rd, 2005, 08:42 AM	#2070
Carl White Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 27	Thanks... Thanks for the help. I feel reasonably confident that whichever camera I end up deciding on it will work with Premier (either 6.5 or Pro 1.5). Now, the hard part - choosing the camcorder. I've at least pretty much narrowed it down to either the Canon GL2 or Panasonic GS400. Carl