Adobe Premiere discussions from 2003

Alex Taylor · May 23rd, 2003, 01:38 PM

I'm doing the same thing, actually! I'm making a slideshow for my graduation class. There was a fire at school, but luckily the computer all the photos are on was a fair ways away from the fire, so I'm hoping the hard drive is fine :)

I'm planning to export it to a master VHS tape and play it off a dub with the video projector.

John Garcia · May 23rd, 2003, 03:03 PM

right on! yeah, the best output that ive gotten is using DV/AVI as the file type. The results are much better, but the file size is 10x bigger. If you've got the space, go for it. In my case, I dont have a large hard drive, so ill have to do with a loss of quality, but thats okay, because when I project it, it still looks great!

good luck with your project.

John

Alex Taylor · May 24th, 2003, 05:33 PM

I re-installed Premiere and it still won't recognize it! I think I might call ADS tech support and bitch to them for a bit :P

It's quite frustrating that it recognizes the card fine, just not anything plugged into it.

Rob Lohman · May 26th, 2003, 04:09 AM

The amount of bits has nothing to do with the sample rate. For
example: my Canon XL1s can do 16 bit 48 khz and 12 bit 48
khz (notice the same khz here).

Rob Lohman · May 26th, 2003, 04:46 AM

Keep in mind that the Cinepak codec is lossy and therefor you
WILL loose quality. I would definitely not use such a format when
doing an MPEG2 encode lateron. If you are going to a final format
and you can live with Cinepak, by all means use it. If you need
to recompress it further go uncompressed if you can.

Does anyone know of a good VFW/Directshow LOSSLESS
compression codec?

Rob Lohman · May 26th, 2003, 06:27 AM

That your card is sharing IRQ's might be a problem. It doesn't
have to be, but it might. Also do you have your camera set in
VCR mode? Otherwise it won't work (at least on my XL1).

Alex Taylor · May 26th, 2003, 09:42 AM

My camera was set to VTR mode as always and it still wouldn't work. Even before when it was working I could use it in camera mode.

Right now it's just sharing IRQ 5 with my TV Wonder card.. is there an easy way to reserve an IRQ just for the firewire card?

Daniel Kendrick · May 26th, 2003, 03:31 PM

I am using Premiere 6.5 and I want to pull my preview window over to my second monitor, but I can't. The only thing that moves are window palettes (such as effects, navigation, etc.). I would also like to stretch my timeline onto the second monitor as well. Basically, I want to unclutter the Premiere workspace. I haven't been able to find any settings within premiere to allow for previewing on a second monitor (besides through firewire). Does anyone know if this issue can be resolved?

Adrian Douglas · May 27th, 2003, 05:40 AM

Daniel,

What you have to do is not maximize your using the maximize button but actually drag the workspace to fill your two monitors. This will only work if you are using two monitors of the same size/resolution, ie two 17"/1024x768 monitors etc. Once the Premiere workspace fills the two monitors you should be able to move your windows around as you please.

Rob Lohman · May 27th, 2003, 05:56 AM

There isn't an easy way anymore..... Best thing to do is remove
the wonder card and test it. If it works then you know where
the problem is and you can then fiddle around in your BIOS to
try to get them off the same IRQ channel.

Rob Lohman · May 27th, 2003, 08:35 AM

Keep in mind that Windows sometimes can't do overlay video on more
than one monitor (your primary). If you can move the preview
but you only see a colored frame inside then you know you have
this problem (some ATI cards work around this problem).

If this is the case set your hardware acceleration for your OTHER
video card (not the primary one) to a lower setting and you
should get video althought you loose some performance.

Alex Taylor · May 27th, 2003, 11:45 AM

Rob,
Thanks, I'm going to try that right now! I'm very close to gutting my computer and running just the video, sound and firewire cards to see if I can get anything working.

Daniel Kendrick · May 27th, 2003, 11:59 AM

Adrian, You had the answer I needed. I could kick myself for not thinking of it. I just got the dual setup a little over a week ago, and I'm still figuring out and enjoying all the new things I can do with it, such as splicing pictures together in photoshop in order to get a different picture on each monitor. And Rob, I can play video on both monitors, so that is working fine. Thanks guys!

Adrian Douglas · May 27th, 2003, 09:38 PM

I had the same thing when I switched to dual monitors. Glad you got it sorted.

Alex Taylor · May 28th, 2003, 09:30 AM

Still didn't work. I don't think I've completely gotten rid of the Texas Instruments drivers because it still installs those drivers by default.

I've been looking all over the place for a place to download the Microsoft-certified drivers for XP, does such a thing exist?

May 23rd, 2003, 01:38 PM	#226
Alex Taylor Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 390	I'm doing the same thing, actually! I'm making a slideshow for my graduation class. There was a fire at school, but luckily the computer all the photos are on was a fair ways away from the fire, so I'm hoping the hard drive is fine :) I'm planning to export it to a master VHS tape and play it off a dub with the video projector. __________________ alextaylor.org

May 24th, 2003, 05:33 PM	#228
Alex Taylor Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 390	I re-installed Premiere and it still won't recognize it! I think I might call ADS tech support and bitch to them for a bit :P It's quite frustrating that it recognizes the card fine, just not anything plugged into it. __________________ alextaylor.org

May 26th, 2003, 04:09 AM	#229
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	The amount of bits has nothing to do with the sample rate. For example: my Canon XL1s can do 16 bit 48 khz and 12 bit 48 khz (notice the same khz here). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 26th, 2003, 04:46 AM	#230
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Keep in mind that the Cinepak codec is lossy and therefor you WILL loose quality. I would definitely not use such a format when doing an MPEG2 encode lateron. If you are going to a final format and you can live with Cinepak, by all means use it. If you need to recompress it further go uncompressed if you can. Does anyone know of a good VFW/Directshow LOSSLESS compression codec? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 26th, 2003, 06:27 AM	#231
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That your card is sharing IRQ's might be a problem. It doesn't have to be, but it might. Also do you have your camera set in VCR mode? Otherwise it won't work (at least on my XL1). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 23rd, 2003, 03:03 PM	#227
John Garcia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 199	right on! yeah, the best output that ive gotten is using DV/AVI as the file type. The results are much better, but the file size is 10x bigger. If you've got the space, go for it. In my case, I dont have a large hard drive, so ill have to do with a loss of quality, but thats okay, because when I project it, it still looks great! good luck with your project. John

May 26th, 2003, 09:42 AM	#232
Alex Taylor Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 390	My camera was set to VTR mode as always and it still wouldn't work. Even before when it was working I could use it in camera mode. Right now it's just sharing IRQ 5 with my TV Wonder card.. is there an easy way to reserve an IRQ just for the firewire card? __________________ alextaylor.org

May 26th, 2003, 03:31 PM	#233
Daniel Kendrick Tourist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 4	Dual Monitors with Premiere 6.5 I am using Premiere 6.5 and I want to pull my preview window over to my second monitor, but I can't. The only thing that moves are window palettes (such as effects, navigation, etc.). I would also like to stretch my timeline onto the second monitor as well. Basically, I want to unclutter the Premiere workspace. I haven't been able to find any settings within premiere to allow for previewing on a second monitor (besides through firewire). Does anyone know if this issue can be resolved?

May 27th, 2003, 05:40 AM	#234
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Daniel, What you have to do is not maximize your using the maximize button but actually drag the workspace to fill your two monitors. This will only work if you are using two monitors of the same size/resolution, ie two 17"/1024x768 monitors etc. Once the Premiere workspace fills the two monitors you should be able to move your windows around as you please. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

May 27th, 2003, 05:56 AM	#235
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	There isn't an easy way anymore..... Best thing to do is remove the wonder card and test it. If it works then you know where the problem is and you can then fiddle around in your BIOS to try to get them off the same IRQ channel. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 27th, 2003, 08:35 AM	#236
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Keep in mind that Windows sometimes can't do overlay video on more than one monitor (your primary). If you can move the preview but you only see a colored frame inside then you know you have this problem (some ATI cards work around this problem). If this is the case set your hardware acceleration for your OTHER video card (not the primary one) to a lower setting and you should get video althought you loose some performance. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 27th, 2003, 11:45 AM	#237
Alex Taylor Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 390	Rob, Thanks, I'm going to try that right now! I'm very close to gutting my computer and running just the video, sound and firewire cards to see if I can get anything working. __________________ alextaylor.org

May 27th, 2003, 11:59 AM	#238
Daniel Kendrick Tourist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 4	Adrian, You had the answer I needed. I could kick myself for not thinking of it. I just got the dual setup a little over a week ago, and I'm still figuring out and enjoying all the new things I can do with it, such as splicing pictures together in photoshop in order to get a different picture on each monitor. And Rob, I can play video on both monitors, so that is working fine. Thanks guys!

May 27th, 2003, 09:38 PM	#239
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	I had the same thing when I switched to dual monitors. Glad you got it sorted. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

May 28th, 2003, 09:30 AM	#240
Alex Taylor Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 390	Still didn't work. I don't think I've completely gotten rid of the Texas Instruments drivers because it still installs those drivers by default. I've been looking all over the place for a place to download the Microsoft-certified drivers for XP, does such a thing exist? __________________ alextaylor.org