Premiere Pro CS4 Benchmark

Steve Kalle · November 6th, 2009, 03:18 PM

Stephen: start a new thread and copy our last few comments to get it started.

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Harm Millaard · November 6th, 2009, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Dwyer

Cheers Steve,

I'm having slow rendering compared to most other people and I'm wondering if a SSD or even a Matrox CompressedHD card would speed things up.

SSD is the easy option but once the application is open would I see any performance gains?

Your results have been included and from the looks of it, your CPU intensive testing, the MPEG encoding, is the culprit. You AVI results are quite good, but the AMD CPU has trouble keeping up with the faster Intel CPU's. Your disk setup is quite good, hence the good AVI performance. You lose on the render test and the MPEG test, which are largely CPU dependent. You may be able to gain marginally from an SSD, but IMO it would not be a wise investment. If you want to do something about responsiveness and perfomance, you have to look at a different CPU.

David Dwyer · November 8th, 2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Dwyer

DavidDwyer, Personal or Computer ID
HP Proliant 115GS, Computer Manufacturer
HP, Computer Model
159.4, secs Total Benchmark Time
7.1, secs AVI Encoding Time
94.3, secs MPEG Elapsed Time
58, secs Rendering Time
AMD, CPU Manufacturer
2.1GHZ, CPU Model
2.1, GHz CPU speed
1, Number of CPU chips
4, Total Number of Cores
8, GB RAM
4.1, APP Version PPBM4 DV
Win 7 64bit, OSVersion
SATA, OS Disk Interface
150, GB OS Disk Capacity
10,000, OS Disk Speed
SATA, Project Disk Interface
400x2 R0, GB Project Disk Capacity
7200, Project Disk Speed
Nvida FX3700, Graphics Board
, Comment

Tried to email but bounced back

DavidDwyer, Personal or Computer ID
HP Proliant 115GS, Computer Manufacturer
HP, Computer Model
86, secs Total Benchmark Time
9.2, secs AVI Encoding Time
18.8, secs MPEG Elapsed Time
58, secs Rendering Time
AMD, CPU Manufacturer
2.1GHZ, CPU Model
2.1, GHz CPU speed
1, Number of CPU chips
4, Total Number of Cores
8, GB RAM
4.1, APP Version PPBM4 DV
Win 7 64bit, OSVersion
SATA, OS Disk Interface
150, GB OS Disk Capacity
10,000, OS Disk Speed
SATA, Project Disk Interface
400x2 R0, GB Project Disk Capacity
7200, Project Disk Speed
Nvida FX3700, Graphics Board
, Comment

I reran the test but changed the output disk back to the 10k rpm OS Disk - Improvement!

Harm Millaard · November 8th, 2009, 05:01 PM

David,

What happened with your MPEG2-DVD results? It appears like there is some mistake going on here. 18.8 seconds is in no way a reasonable comparison to you AVI results, nor to the render results. Is there a typo? How could it be that your AVI results are around 6 times slower than the current top score, your MPEG results better by around 50% and your render results are again around 2.5 times slower than the top performance. Something does not sound right here.

David Dwyer · November 9th, 2009, 03:04 AM

Don't think so but I'll rerun it when I get home tonight to double check.

David Dwyer · May 17th, 2010, 12:22 PM

I'm trying to run this on CS5 but it doesnt like my output files directory when I run the script?

"C:\Video Capture Files"

David Dwyer · May 17th, 2010, 01:09 PM

Sorted it - Pr set the AVI files as _11, _12 _13 etc so reran it with the correct names.

Tried to send my results through but got a mail bounce back

Harm Millaard · May 17th, 2010, 02:04 PM

David,

Nice improvement. Don't worry about the increased AVI times, that is something all CS5 users have seen, but the improvement in MPEG encoding and render times are quite good, don't you think?

You could try the soft-mod on your FX3700, it may bring down your render times at the detriment of your AVI scores, but better overall.

Did you send these results to Bill or do you want me to include them?

PS. Your disk setup changed in comparison to your current results. 75 instead of 150 G OS disk, 400 x 2 R1 instead of R0 for project disk. Is this correct or was it wrong to start with?

David Dwyer · May 17th, 2010, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harm Millaard

David,

Nice improvement. Don't worry about the increased AVI times, that is something all CS5 users have seen, but the improvement in MPEG encoding and render times are quite good, don't you think?

You could try the soft-mod on your FX3700, it may bring down your render times at the detriment of your AVI scores, but better overall.

Did you send these results to Bill or do you want me to include them?

PS. Your disk setup changed in comparison to your current results. 75 instead of 150 G OS disk, 400 x 2 R1 instead of R0 for project disk. Is this correct or was it wrong to start with?

Softmod? I should of said its actually 8800 GTX that that was flashed to the FX 3700

OS is 150GB 10k RPM
Project is 400x2 R0 7200rpm
Scratch is 750GB 7200rpm

I can't send the email to Bill so if you could pass it on?

Reason why I ran the test again is I have a Intel i7 with 12GB of ram coming tomorrow!! Will be OC'd to 4GHz. Same disk setup with a GTX 275 for MPE goodness.

Harm Millaard · May 17th, 2010, 02:51 PM

David,

I'll add your data to the results and send them on to Bill.

By softmod I mean a simple "hack" to make CS5 believe you have a certified MPE card. I did that with my video card and reduced my rendering time from 14 to 3 seconds. Here is a link to some instructions, although it has been posted here as well: Adobe Forums: Unsupported GPU for CS5

This may be informative as well: Adobe Forums: Overclocking the i7, a beginners guide

David Dwyer · May 17th, 2010, 02:54 PM

Its not supported due to having 495MB and not the required 765MB but the GTX275 will be!

Tomorrow I'll be running at standard i7 speeds then over the next couple of days will be running at 4GHz.

Finally will have a decent PC for editing.

Cheers Harm

David Dwyer · May 18th, 2010, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harm Millaard

David,

I'll add your data to the results and send them on to Bill.

By softmod I mean a simple "hack" to make CS5 believe you have a certified MPE card. I did that with my video card and reduced my rendering time from 14 to 3 seconds. Here is a link to some instructions, although it has been posted here as well: Adobe Forums: Unsupported GPU for CS5

This may be informative as well: Adobe Forums: Overclocking the i7, a beginners guide

New PC is here and at standard I'm getting:

28.9, secs Total Benchmark Time
12.4, secs AVI Encoding Time
10.5, secs MPEG Elapsed Time
6, secs Rendering Time

Not even OC'd it yet!

Harm Millaard · May 19th, 2010, 02:16 AM

David,

That is great to hear! Congrats.

Once you have your system fully tuned and running, send me the latest results and I will include them as well. Do make sure you fill out the technical specs on the new system.

David Dwyer · May 19th, 2010, 02:21 AM

With CS5 + MPE my video plays in RT - Old PC I had to render it which took ages (6-8hrs) Even without the MPE still plays in RT. Shows the redbar in Pr though

So Impressed with the i7 setup.

Will do Harm - Upgrading my RAID from SATA 1 drives to SATA 2 drives so I'm hoping that will bring down the AVI result.

David Dwyer · June 6th, 2010, 06:26 PM

Getting a couple of odd results with MPE turned on:

4GHZ OC with No MPE:

32.3, secs Total Benchmark Time
5.4, secs AVI Encoding Time
6.9, secs MPEG Elapsed Time
20, secs Rendering Time

And with MPE on

23.1, secs Total Benchmark Time
8.1, secs AVI Encoding Time
8, secs MPEG Elapsed Time
7, secs Rendering Time

Now I'm using the GTX 275 and looking at CPU-Z the card seems to be changing its clock speed to suit power requirements. I want it running 100% all the time.

Any ideas how to turn off the clock down off?

November 6th, 2009, 03:18 PM	#31
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Stephen: start a new thread and copy our last few comments to get it started. MOD NOTE: As suggested, moved posts on networking to a new thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/non-line...p-editing.html Last edited by Pete Bauer; November 6th, 2009 at 03:28 PM. Reason: Create new thread for networking topic

November 8th, 2009, 05:01 PM	#34
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	David, What happened with your MPEG2-DVD results? It appears like there is some mistake going on here. 18.8 seconds is in no way a reasonable comparison to you AVI results, nor to the render results. Is there a typo? How could it be that your AVI results are around 6 times slower than the current top score, your MPEG results better by around 50% and your render results are again around 2.5 times slower than the top performance. Something does not sound right here.

November 9th, 2009, 03:04 AM	#35
David Dwyer Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester, North West Posts: 565	Don't think so but I'll rerun it when I get home tonight to double check.

May 17th, 2010, 12:22 PM	#36
David Dwyer Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester, North West Posts: 565	I'm trying to run this on CS5 but it doesnt like my output files directory when I run the script? "C:\Video Capture Files"

May 17th, 2010, 02:04 PM	#38
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	David, Nice improvement. Don't worry about the increased AVI times, that is something all CS5 users have seen, but the improvement in MPEG encoding and render times are quite good, don't you think? You could try the soft-mod on your FX3700, it may bring down your render times at the detriment of your AVI scores, but better overall. Did you send these results to Bill or do you want me to include them? PS. Your disk setup changed in comparison to your current results. 75 instead of 150 G OS disk, 400 x 2 R1 instead of R0 for project disk. Is this correct or was it wrong to start with?

May 17th, 2010, 02:51 PM	#40
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	David, I'll add your data to the results and send them on to Bill. By softmod I mean a simple "hack" to make CS5 believe you have a certified MPE card. I did that with my video card and reduced my rendering time from 14 to 3 seconds. Here is a link to some instructions, although it has been posted here as well: Adobe Forums: Unsupported GPU for CS5 This may be informative as well: Adobe Forums: Overclocking the i7, a beginners guide

May 17th, 2010, 02:54 PM	#41
David Dwyer Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester, North West Posts: 565	Its not supported due to having 495MB and not the required 765MB but the GTX275 will be! Tomorrow I'll be running at standard i7 speeds then over the next couple of days will be running at 4GHz. Finally will have a decent PC for editing. Cheers Harm

May 19th, 2010, 02:16 AM	#43
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	David, That is great to hear! Congrats. Once you have your system fully tuned and running, send me the latest results and I will include them as well. Do make sure you fill out the technical specs on the new system.

May 19th, 2010, 02:21 AM	#44
David Dwyer Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester, North West Posts: 565	With CS5 + MPE my video plays in RT - Old PC I had to render it which took ages (6-8hrs) Even without the MPE still plays in RT. Shows the redbar in Pr though So Impressed with the i7 setup. Will do Harm - Upgrading my RAID from SATA 1 drives to SATA 2 drives so I'm hoping that will bring down the AVI result.

June 6th, 2010, 06:26 PM	#45
David Dwyer Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester, North West Posts: 565	Getting a couple of odd results with MPE turned on: 4GHZ OC with No MPE: 32.3, secs Total Benchmark Time 5.4, secs AVI Encoding Time 6.9, secs MPEG Elapsed Time 20, secs Rendering Time And with MPE on 23.1, secs Total Benchmark Time 8.1, secs AVI Encoding Time 8, secs MPEG Elapsed Time 7, secs Rendering Time Now I'm using the GTX 275 and looking at CPU-Z the card seems to be changing its clock speed to suit power requirements. I want it running 100% all the time. Any ideas how to turn off the clock down off?