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Old May 5th, 2014, 10:32 AM   #1
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Problem 25i and 25p

Helo, I am using Premiere and Media Encoder CS6.

Problem appears when I combine 25i and 25p material from 3 cameras.

Montage is in 25i HDV sequence.

Two cameras rec in HDV 50i and photo camera (5D mark 3) recs 25p HD.

When i combine shoots, image from photo camera is flickering.

Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SLI...ature=youtu.be (middle shoot)

How can I combine thoose to images, 25i or 50i and 25p with no INTERLACING PROBLEM.

Any idea? I need this help, tnx :)

Anyway, look at my work: VIDEO JPL

Cao. TNX :)
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Old May 5th, 2014, 02:32 PM   #2
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

The issue with middle clip is judder, brought on by panning when shooting with a slow, progressive frame rate. Hollywood movies exhibit the same issue, being shot at 24fps.

How do you plan to deliver - what format/device? If for web/YouTube, that delivery will be progressive anyway, so try editing in a 25p sequence, but I don't think things will improve. Try it though

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Old May 7th, 2014, 08:31 AM   #3
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

I think I made mistake, that interlace is because of slow motion.
So It is not problem any more. Yes it is for youtoube.

I have another problem now.

My another movie is recorded in progressive 25p HD 1980x1080.
I must burn Blu-ray disc for TELEVISON.

And I dont have any idea how to burn PROGRESSIVE material to disc with no interlacing on TV - blu ray player.

I cant burn that PROGRESSIVE Footage from Premiere CS6 25p sequence, through ENCORE to Blu-ray disc? Image on TV is not smooth, it is interlacing, flickering, have you any idea how to burn PROGRESSIVE image to Blu-ray HD.

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Old May 7th, 2014, 12:29 PM   #4
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

25P is not a legal format for Blu-Ray.
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Old May 7th, 2014, 02:57 PM   #5
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

Toss it all in to a 50i timeline and then output to a (interlaced) BluRay disc. Your progressive sourced video camera content will still appear progressive.

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Old May 7th, 2014, 05:00 PM   #6
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

Thanks, what is sollution to combine those Images, I and P?

Really?

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Old May 7th, 2014, 05:03 PM   #7
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

Drag the sequence for your 25p edit timeline, placing it in to a 25i timeline. Or just export out to an interlaced format per the settings in Adobe Media Encoder.

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Old May 7th, 2014, 06:21 PM   #8
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

Any of this combinations dont work, I tried much a lot.

I just cannot export progressive to DISC, It is always lagging... :(
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Old May 7th, 2014, 06:26 PM   #9
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What exactly do you mean by "lagging"?

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Old May 7th, 2014, 06:58 PM   #10
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

So on TV it is flickering, it is not smooth, it laggs a little bit, it is not like interlaced sequence that goes right.

Sorry of my english, I hope you understand me.

If I burn 25p material to Bluray or DVD it is not smooth.
It does not help if I convert that sequence to 25i, it is the same, not good result. If you say that Blurays and DVDs are not supportinh 25p material, how is it possible to use that material on Blu Ray or DVD, playing it on Televison with Blu ray Player?

Any method in Premiere CS6 for deinterlacing, interpret footage or whatever, I am exhausted of making it right :)
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Old May 7th, 2014, 07:05 PM   #11
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

I think you will find that the field order (for the interlacing) is around the wrong way. Try the other one (odd/even) and see how it goes.

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Old May 8th, 2014, 01:18 AM   #12
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

Put your footage all in a 25i sequence (including the 25P material) and export to BR with a 25i preset, using UFF.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 08:07 AM   #13
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

No this is not workin, as I said :(

It is just not right, seems like there is no function to convert Progressive right to Interlaced for Television.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 04:27 PM   #14
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Have you tried outputting with the interlaced field order around the other way?

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Old May 9th, 2014, 03:46 AM   #15
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Re: Problem 25i and 25p

I tried almost all.

I exported from 25i to HD mpeg Blu ray 25i, upper fields, lower fields, progressive.

I exported from 25p to 25i, upper fields, lower fields, progressive.

Than I exported to h264 25i. And nothing of this gives no good result.

Always lagging, not smooth, trrrr.

No one knows really what is required to do that. Hm but I think one way must go.
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