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Old April 5th, 2006, 05:41 PM   #1
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Finally DV Rack on a Mac?

So now that Apple has released "Boot Camp" and you can now boot WIndows XP on a separate partition on an Intel Mac, does this mean DV Rack will run on a MacBook Pro?
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Old April 5th, 2006, 05:44 PM   #2
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So now that Apple has released "Boot Camp" and you can now boot WIndows XP on a separate partition on an Intel Mac, does this mean DV Rack will run on a MacBook Pro?
I'm already ahead of you Tim. Well sort of, I was thinking the same thing about Canon's Console and DVPC recorder applications. I'm thinking there is going to be a Macbook Pro in my future. ;-)

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Old April 6th, 2006, 06:46 AM   #3
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I fired up dvrack on a MacBook Pro and it worked fine. I didn't go into any details much but all the gauges and bars and preview monitors were lit up with the video I fed to it from a little Sony TRV22.

Hope that makes some of you happy.

btw: I have never seen windows xp as smooth and quick as on this MacBook. I recommed you install it just to see it run.

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Old April 6th, 2006, 08:05 AM   #4
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What kind of latency were you seeing?
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Old April 6th, 2006, 10:26 AM   #5
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http://www.parallels.com has virtual machine software that will allow you to run XP without having to reboot your intel mac...it was released today and is in beta, 30 day free trial. I'd be interested to hear how it works from some brave soul, but don't have an intel mac to test it :(

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Old April 6th, 2006, 10:36 AM   #6
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http://www.parallels.com has virtual machine software that will allow you to run XP without having to reboot your intel mac...it was released today and is in beta, 30 day free trial. I'd be interested to hear how it works from some brave soul, but don't have an intel mac to test it :(

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Virtualization is an awesome idea, but in the case of Virtual PC has always been plagued by driver issues. I wonder if these guys have worked out a better way to tunnel through directly to the processor and graphics cards.

I don't own an Intel Mac yet, but I'd like to know if DVRack would work with Parallels' software?
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Old April 6th, 2006, 04:08 PM   #7
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That software is mentioned in this Wall Street Journal article about BootCamp and the Intel Macs: http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20060406.html

In the "side by side" table they say that Parallels runs slower than booting directly into Windows. I'd also expect that, although the author says he hasn't tried it himself. Will be interesting to see if they've solved some of the tough problems like Tim says.
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Old April 8th, 2006, 11:35 AM   #8
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I would dig it if HDV Rack went to Mac native, since I just bought a Power Mac Quad and PowerBook G4 (my wife would kill me if I bought another computer).

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Old April 8th, 2006, 11:40 AM   #9
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I would dig it if HDV Rack went to Mac native, since I just bought a Power Mac Quad and PowerBook G4 (my wife would kill me if I bought another computer).

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The problem is that DVRack makes "extensive use of Microsoft's DirectShow Technology." So basically they are piggy-backing on technology built into Windows.

See http://www.seriousmagic.com/help/faq...cfm?p=3&c=1#48 for more info.
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Old April 8th, 2006, 12:26 PM   #10
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There's more to it than that, I think. Apple may not want to share some specifics. But if Windows XP is running well, ie, no lag like with Virtual PC, then I'll find someone with a MacBook Pro, grab HDV Rack, and get busy when I shoot my film this summer.

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Old April 11th, 2006, 05:55 PM   #11
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Would someone clear up .....

whether Direct X is a motherboard hardware issue, software issue or whatever? I'd love to use DV Rack and Ultra on a Mac. If Boot Camp will
allow this to be done (love to see DV Rack in HD) then I'd get a Mac Intel in a heart beat!
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Old April 11th, 2006, 06:41 PM   #12
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DV Rack HDV (or is it HDV Rack) is excellent. Spot and I used it on the Sony HDV tour last fall/winter. www.vasst.com

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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:06 PM   #13
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I've been holding off posting to this thread until we've tested it ourselves, but we've now heard from over 10 customers that have loaded DV Rack on their MacBook Pro using Windows, and it works fine. Here are a couple of notes to be aware of:

1. Windows won't natively read the Mac partition - you'll probably want to get a small utility called MacDrive for Windows, which will ensure that Windows will read and write to your Mac partition, your Mac-formatted CD-ROM's, removable hard drives, etc. DV rack can record to any device with a drive letter, so if you have MacDrive installed, it'll record right to that Mac-formatted removable USB2 drive just fine.

2. The MacBook pointer device only has one button, and Windows doesn't have a keyboard shortcut to right-click like MacOS has. DV Rack uses the right-click for a lot of settings, especially if you are at 1024x768 resolution. You can either use an external mouse (like the Mighty Mouse) or use a freeware program like this one: http://www.geocities.com/pronto4u/applemouse.html. Or, run your screen at a higher resolution, and use the menu items in the top toolbar.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 08:28 PM   #14
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Karl,
You can plug in any USB mouse in your Mac and it will recognise the right click and the scroll buttons without any additional drivers. I am using right now a Logitech plugged in the Apple keyboard. The same keyboard and mouse is used on Wintel box and also in VP running on the Mac. All buttons are fully functional.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 08:33 PM   #15
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Did anybody tried this program as an option to Boot Camp?
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/
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