Dual Dual-core AMD Opteron Processors at DVinfo.net

Eric Holloway · June 26th, 2006, 10:19 AM

I'm currently running an Intel 3.4 ghz machine and thinking about going to a dual core amd opteron dual processor machine.

My question is, Intel supports the hyperthreading and premiere takes advantage of it thinking there are two processessors instead of one. AMD has the HyperTransport technology and I need to know if this works the same way with Adobe premiere.

For instance, if I'm running 2 dual core amd processors, will Adobe Premiere think that I'm running 4 processessors like it would if I was running 2 intel hyperthreaded processessors?

Thanks,

Eric Holloway

Denis Danatzko · June 26th, 2006, 03:45 PM

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Leslie Dopkiss · June 26th, 2006, 05:45 PM

Eric, go to http://www.videoguys.com/DIY4.html and read what they have to say about intel vs amd. I am building a computer based on the tyan K8WE motherboard and using two dual core opterons. It's the most complicated computer I have built yet, and thus it's taking me longer because of the learning curve. I decided on amd because of past history using amd plus what they had to say at this site. Sorry that I can't give you any personal experience with it yet - but hopefully soon!

Leslie

John Miller · June 26th, 2006, 07:16 PM

Hyperthreading and HyperTransport are completed unrelated (other than the first six letters!). HyperTransport is an extremely fast bus for communicating between the processors. Hyperthreading is (in my opinion) a kludge to give the crippled Pentium 4 a performance boost by allowing it to be a part-dual processor.

Hyperthreading requires somewhat tricky programming to make full use of.

Premiere supports more than one processor and it should work with the operating system to make full use of 4 cores should there happen to be 4 present. It's possible that it is hard-coded to work on 2 at most. I'd like to say that's unlikely but....

Laurence Kingston · June 26th, 2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F Miller

Hyperthreading and HyperTransport are completed unrelated (other than the first six letters!). HyperTransport is an extremely fast bus for communicating between the processors. Hyperthreading is (in my opinion) a kludge to give the crippled Pentium 4 a performance boost by allowing it to be a part-dual processor.

The good thing about Hyper-threading is that you can turn it off in your cmos and get a little better performance (most of the time) ;-)

Ben Winter · June 27th, 2006, 01:26 PM

For video editing, I've always heard to go AMD. I've got a dual dual-core opteron system on order which should be arriving within the next few weeks. I edit HDV and I think it'll handle it nicely. 4 gigs of ram, ati radeon 1900xt and four 250gb sata hard drives raid'ed together.

Greg Bates · June 27th, 2006, 09:39 PM

I built a dual dual core opteron system based around a Tyan mother board and opteron 265's with 8 gigs of ram. I had considered going FCP until I got this one together, but this thing is a monster. I can edit HVX footage with ease.

Denis Danatzko · June 30th, 2006, 06:15 PM

Impressive performance. My being impressed may not be noteworthy. What made me feel good was that the guys who were building the machine were amazed at it's performance. They had never worked with HVX footage, but after adding some effects to a short test clip, they commented they had never seen effects produced so quickly without rendering. It was pretty much real time.

Unfortunately, they built it with drives smaller than I ordered. Insted of 4 500's, they used 4 250's. Now I have to wait the long weekend with nowhere to go and no new toy to play with. (Needless to say I have no $$ either).

Happy 4th!

Leslie Dopkiss · July 1st, 2006, 07:01 AM

Finally got the little monster together. I've got two 250s in a sata raid 0, a 250 for winxp to live on and a 300 for extra stuff, 4gig ram, nvida geoforce6800. Greg, what did you use for audio on your tyan motherboard? I still have to decide that. But at least it works and I can put the software on it and start playing. Glad to hear you all are happy, I can't wait to try this out!

June 26th, 2006, 10:19 AM	#1
Eric Holloway Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 173	Dual Dual-core AMD Opteron Processors I'm currently running an Intel 3.4 ghz machine and thinking about going to a dual core amd opteron dual processor machine. My question is, Intel supports the hyperthreading and premiere takes advantage of it thinking there are two processessors instead of one. AMD has the HyperTransport technology and I need to know if this works the same way with Adobe premiere. For instance, if I'm running 2 dual core amd processors, will Adobe Premiere think that I'm running 4 processessors like it would if I was running 2 intel hyperthreaded processessors? Thanks, Eric Holloway

June 26th, 2006, 03:45 PM	#2
Denis Danatzko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Metro area Posts: 579	See this thread... CineForm Software Showcase - What is the best computer for PP2 & Aspect HD It might help. __________________ Denis ------------ Our actions are based on our own experience and knowledge. Thus, no one is ever totally right, nor totally wrong. We simply act from what we "know" to be true, based on that experience and knowledge. Beyond that, we pose questions to others.

June 26th, 2006, 05:45 PM	#3
Leslie Dopkiss Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 39	dual dual cores Eric, go to http://www.videoguys.com/DIY4.html and read what they have to say about intel vs amd. I am building a computer based on the tyan K8WE motherboard and using two dual core opterons. It's the most complicated computer I have built yet, and thus it's taking me longer because of the learning curve. I decided on amd because of past history using amd plus what they had to say at this site. Sorry that I can't give you any personal experience with it yet - but hopefully soon! Leslie

June 27th, 2006, 01:26 PM	#6
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	For video editing, I've always heard to go AMD. I've got a dual dual-core opteron system on order which should be arriving within the next few weeks. I edit HDV and I think it'll handle it nicely. 4 gigs of ram, ati radeon 1900xt and four 250gb sata hard drives raid'ed together. __________________ BenWinter.com

June 30th, 2006, 06:15 PM	#8
Denis Danatzko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Metro area Posts: 579	I met my dual operton machine for the first time today. Impressive performance. My being impressed may not be noteworthy. What made me feel good was that the guys who were building the machine were amazed at it's performance. They had never worked with HVX footage, but after adding some effects to a short test clip, they commented they had never seen effects produced so quickly without rendering. It was pretty much real time. Unfortunately, they built it with drives smaller than I ordered. Insted of 4 500's, they used 4 250's. Now I have to wait the long weekend with nowhere to go and no new toy to play with. (Needless to say I have no $$ either). Happy 4th! __________________ Denis ------------ Our actions are based on our own experience and knowledge. Thus, no one is ever totally right, nor totally wrong. We simply act from what we "know" to be true, based on that experience and knowledge. Beyond that, we pose questions to others.

June 26th, 2006, 07:16 PM	#4
John Miller Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hillsborough, NC, USA Posts: 968	Hyperthreading and HyperTransport are completed unrelated (other than the first six letters!). HyperTransport is an extremely fast bus for communicating between the processors. Hyperthreading is (in my opinion) a kludge to give the crippled Pentium 4 a performance boost by allowing it to be a part-dual processor. Hyperthreading requires somewhat tricky programming to make full use of. Premiere supports more than one processor and it should work with the operating system to make full use of 4 cores should there happen to be 4 present. It's possible that it is hard-coded to work on 2 at most. I'd like to say that's unlikely but....

June 27th, 2006, 09:39 PM	#7
Greg Bates Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 186	I built a dual dual core opteron system based around a Tyan mother board and opteron 265's with 8 gigs of ram. I had considered going FCP until I got this one together, but this thing is a monster. I can edit HVX footage with ease.

July 1st, 2006, 07:01 AM	#9
Leslie Dopkiss Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 39	Greg - what audio? Finally got the little monster together. I've got two 250s in a sata raid 0, a 250 for winxp to live on and a 300 for extra stuff, 4gig ram, nvida geoforce6800. Greg, what did you use for audio on your tyan motherboard? I still have to decide that. But at least it works and I can put the software on it and start playing. Glad to hear you all are happy, I can't wait to try this out!