Best format to export video to at DVinfo.net

Tim Bickford · August 6th, 2006, 07:07 AM

I have a 1 minute long segment that I would like to post on the web. I would like to keep it under 70 Meg. There are so many options. (wmv, mov, rtv, etc..) My video is in 720 x 480 16:9 at 24P. I would like to go slightly smaller in size (i.e. 620 x 380 or a bit less) plus have the best picture quality possible. I do not intend for this to be streaming, People will simply just download it.

I get confused when I have tio select bitrate, vbr, etc.

Any help would be appreciateded.

Gareth Watkins · August 7th, 2006, 01:04 AM

Hi Tim,

I think the simplest way is to use WMV. Premiere will out put pretty good wmv files which will probably be the most universally viewable for web delivery. There are a number of preset settings in PPro you can try a few of those to see which you prefer... I set mine for around 512 throughput, which lets most people with broadband watch them no problem....

You'll no doubt get better quality if you mess around with Quicktime on a Mac, these are the best quality web delivered clips I've see. But as you're on a PC, you'll struggle with the Mac formats.

As you've seen there are several possible formats..but Windows media is a good place to start.

Regards
Gareth

Matt DeJonge · August 7th, 2006, 03:41 PM

Tim, I've found out that QuickTime is one of the niceset delivery methods. I usually take my final video and output it to an AVI file (DV codec). I then Open it with QuickTime Pro (~$40.00) and then Export it using the 'Broadband (High)' option. Of course you can tweak the resolution, etc. if you want. This outputs a high quality MOV file using H.264 and AAC. The only thing I dislike about QuickTime is that it seems to desaturate the video a lot, so you need to up the saturation in your project before outputting to an AVI. Then, when QT converts it, it'll look a lot better. The file ends up being about 5MB per minute (using only Single Pass) and that's really good res (486 x 270 widescreen) and really high audio (16-bit stereo 48 KHz). I'm sure you could get the size down a lot smaller if you were willing to drop the audio bitrate and decrease video quality a bit.

Chris Barcellos · August 7th, 2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt DeJonge

The only thing I dislike about QuickTime is that it seems to desaturate the video a lot, so you need to up the saturation in your project before outputting to an AVI. Then, when QT converts it, it'll look a lot better.

I agree with the assessment about desaturation with H264, I seem to get a better look because of it in .wmv. Trouble with Quicktime is updating the viewers too. In my experience, at least on PC side, practically everyone has Windows Media Player, an a good portion are updated.

Tim Bickford · August 7th, 2006, 05:25 PM

Thanks for all the advice. I'm going to give the quicktime a shot. I'll let you know how I nake out with it.

Thanks again for taking the time to explain.

Tim

Christopher Lefchik · August 7th, 2006, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

I agree with the assessment about desaturation with H264, I seem to get a better look because of it in .wmv.

From what I have seen, the saturation problem apparently lies in the QuickTime Player itself. If the H.264 footage is played in VLC media player the saturation is fine.

Steve Wolla · August 15th, 2006, 12:39 AM

I would recommend using WMV files for web streaming. Seem to be easiest for end users to open and get the benefit from.

Tim Bickford · August 16th, 2006, 08:56 AM

Thanks for the advice Steve. I appreciate it!

Tim

August 6th, 2006, 07:07 AM	#1
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	Best format to export video to I have a 1 minute long segment that I would like to post on the web. I would like to keep it under 70 Meg. There are so many options. (wmv, mov, rtv, etc..) My video is in 720 x 480 16:9 at 24P. I would like to go slightly smaller in size (i.e. 620 x 380 or a bit less) plus have the best picture quality possible. I do not intend for this to be streaming, People will simply just download it. I get confused when I have tio select bitrate, vbr, etc. Any help would be appreciateded. __________________ Tim Bickford

August 7th, 2006, 03:41 PM	#3
Matt DeJonge Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 37	Tim, I've found out that QuickTime is one of the niceset delivery methods. I usually take my final video and output it to an AVI file (DV codec). I then Open it with QuickTime Pro (~$40.00) and then Export it using the 'Broadband (High)' option. Of course you can tweak the resolution, etc. if you want. This outputs a high quality MOV file using H.264 and AAC. The only thing I dislike about QuickTime is that it seems to desaturate the video a lot, so you need to up the saturation in your project before outputting to an AVI. Then, when QT converts it, it'll look a lot better. The file ends up being about 5MB per minute (using only Single Pass) and that's really good res (486 x 270 widescreen) and really high audio (16-bit stereo 48 KHz). I'm sure you could get the size down a lot smaller if you were willing to drop the audio bitrate and decrease video quality a bit. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+ / 2GB RAM / nVidia 7900GT Dual Head, 3x500GB HD Adobe CS3, LightWave 3D 9.3

August 7th, 2006, 05:25 PM	#5
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	Thanks for all the advice. I'm going to give the quicktime a shot. I'll let you know how I nake out with it. Thanks again for taking the time to explain. Tim __________________ Tim Bickford

August 16th, 2006, 08:56 AM	#8
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	Thanks for the advice Steve. I appreciate it! Tim __________________ Tim Bickford

August 7th, 2006, 01:04 AM	#2
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Hi Tim, I think the simplest way is to use WMV. Premiere will out put pretty good wmv files which will probably be the most universally viewable for web delivery. There are a number of preset settings in PPro you can try a few of those to see which you prefer... I set mine for around 512 throughput, which lets most people with broadband watch them no problem.... You'll no doubt get better quality if you mess around with Quicktime on a Mac, these are the best quality web delivered clips I've see. But as you're on a PC, you'll struggle with the Mac formats. As you've seen there are several possible formats..but Windows media is a good place to start. Regards Gareth

August 15th, 2006, 12:39 AM	#7
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	I would recommend using WMV files for web streaming. Seem to be easiest for end users to open and get the benefit from.