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Rafael Lopes · February 11th, 2007, 12:35 PM

Did anyone ever try Windows XP 64 bits with premiere pro 2.0? Is it worth the upgrade? Supposedly regular windows doesn't allow any application to use more than 2GB AND none other version allows 64 bit usage (except vista). I was wondering if anyone tried and what were the results.

Ben Winter · February 11th, 2007, 04:19 PM

I'm curious too. I've got 4 gb installed in anticipation and I hate not being able to use it.

Harm Millaard · February 11th, 2007, 04:35 PM

This has been discussed ad infinitum. WinXP Pro supports 4 GB of RAM. PremPro does not support XP64. If you want the hassle, go ahead. Be ready for some serious tweaking in your registry however. Multiple posts about this issue can be found on various forums. Be warned that there is NO performance gain and with Vista recent figures indicate a performance loss of around 25%. If you want to use more memory but suffer a performance loss in render times, go ahead.

Bart Walczak · February 12th, 2007, 03:31 AM

Harm,

Windows XP supports up to 3 GBs.

I have been running PPro 2.0 on Win 64 for past half a year and it has been the most stable setup I've worked with so far (and I've worked with several).

No problems at all.

Harm Millaard · February 12th, 2007, 04:32 AM

"The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity. The rest is overhead for the operating system."

Same with XP. It recognizes up to 4 GB, but applications can only use a maximum of 3 GB. The rest is used by XP.

Rafael Lopes · February 13th, 2007, 03:35 AM

Does Windows XP automatically use 3GB with premiere pro 2.0 or do I have to set something up?

Harm Millaard · February 13th, 2007, 04:15 AM

You have to set a switch in the Boot.ini file. Best search the Microsoft Knowledgebase for details.

Rafael Lopes · February 13th, 2007, 04:45 AM

Thanks. I'm going to look into it right now.

Rafael Lopes · February 13th, 2007, 04:56 AM

Ok, I found the switches and I understand they have to be somehow done to the boot.ini file, but I have absolutely no idea how to do it. Can anyone shad some light here?

I found 3 switches that seem useful, but I would like to be sure about which one to use.

SWITCH#1 /burnmemory=number
This switch specifies the amount of memory, in megabytes, that Windows cannot use. Use this parameter to confirm a performance problem or other problems that are related to RAM depletion. For example, type /burnmemory=128 to reduce the physical memory that is available to Windows by 128 MB.

SWITCH#2 /3GB
This switch forces x86-based systems to allocate 3 GB of virtual address space to programs and 1 GB to the kernel and to executive components. A program must be designed to take advantage of the additional memory address space. With this switch, user mode programs can access 3 GB of memory instead of the usual 2 GB that Windows allocates to user mode programs. The switch moves the starting point of kernel memory to 3 GB. Some configurations of Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 and Microsoft Windows Server 2003 may require this switch.

For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
823440 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823440/) You must use the /3GB switch when you install Exchange Server 2003 on a Windows Server 2003-based system

For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
171793 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171793/) Information on application use of 4GT RAM tuning

SWITCH#3 /maxmem=number
This switch specifies the amount of RAM, in bytes, that Windows can use. For example, if you want Windows to use less than 64 MB of memory, use the /maxmem=64 switch.

However, the /maxmem switch does not account for memory holes. Therefore, we recommend that you use the /burnmemory switch instead. The /burnmemory switch accounts for memory holes.

For example, if you use the /Maxmem=64 switch, and the system requires 64 MB of memory to load, there may not actually be 64 MB availalbe to the system because of a memory hole. In this scenario, Windows would not start.

For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
108393 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/108393/) MAXMEM option in Windows NT Boot.ini file

Jad Meouchy · February 13th, 2007, 04:48 PM

I am using XP x64 and did not have to do anything at all to get Ppro 2.0 to work. I don't know about official benchmarks, but it does run much faster than 32-bit. Previews are faster, rendering is faster, encoding is faster. Everything is faster. It is not fully 64-bit, but it does have some 64-bit optimized code. I don't find it to be particularly stable, though. But then again, I never have found Premiere to be stable.

As far as Vista goes, it is slower overall than XP, so unless the test is between Vista 32 and Vista 64, it doesn't really help us with this question.

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February 11th, 2007, 12:35 PM	#1
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,239	Windows XP 64 bits Did anyone ever try Windows XP 64 bits with premiere pro 2.0? Is it worth the upgrade? Supposedly regular windows doesn't allow any application to use more than 2GB AND none other version allows 64 bit usage (except vista). I was wondering if anyone tried and what were the results.

February 11th, 2007, 04:19 PM	#2
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	I'm curious too. I've got 4 gb installed in anticipation and I hate not being able to use it. __________________ BenWinter.com

February 11th, 2007, 04:35 PM	#3
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	This has been discussed ad infinitum. WinXP Pro supports 4 GB of RAM. PremPro does not support XP64. If you want the hassle, go ahead. Be ready for some serious tweaking in your registry however. Multiple posts about this issue can be found on various forums. Be warned that there is NO performance gain and with Vista recent figures indicate a performance loss of around 25%. If you want to use more memory but suffer a performance loss in render times, go ahead.

February 12th, 2007, 03:31 AM	#4
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Harm, Windows XP supports up to 3 GBs. I have been running PPro 2.0 on Win 64 for past half a year and it has been the most stable setup I've worked with so far (and I've worked with several). No problems at all.

February 12th, 2007, 04:32 AM	#5
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	"The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity. The rest is overhead for the operating system." Same with XP. It recognizes up to 4 GB, but applications can only use a maximum of 3 GB. The rest is used by XP.

February 13th, 2007, 03:35 AM	#6
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,239	Does Windows XP automatically use 3GB with premiere pro 2.0 or do I have to set something up?

February 13th, 2007, 04:15 AM	#7
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	You have to set a switch in the Boot.ini file. Best search the Microsoft Knowledgebase for details.

February 13th, 2007, 04:45 AM	#8
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,239	Thanks. I'm going to look into it right now.

February 13th, 2007, 04:56 AM	#9
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,239	Ok, I found the switches and I understand they have to be somehow done to the boot.ini file, but I have absolutely no idea how to do it. Can anyone shad some light here? I found 3 switches that seem useful, but I would like to be sure about which one to use. SWITCH#1 /burnmemory=number This switch specifies the amount of memory, in megabytes, that Windows cannot use. Use this parameter to confirm a performance problem or other problems that are related to RAM depletion. For example, type /burnmemory=128 to reduce the physical memory that is available to Windows by 128 MB. SWITCH#2 /3GB This switch forces x86-based systems to allocate 3 GB of virtual address space to programs and 1 GB to the kernel and to executive components. A program must be designed to take advantage of the additional memory address space. With this switch, user mode programs can access 3 GB of memory instead of the usual 2 GB that Windows allocates to user mode programs. The switch moves the starting point of kernel memory to 3 GB. Some configurations of Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 and Microsoft Windows Server 2003 may require this switch. For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 823440 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823440/) You must use the /3GB switch when you install Exchange Server 2003 on a Windows Server 2003-based system For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 171793 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171793/) Information on application use of 4GT RAM tuning SWITCH#3 /maxmem=number This switch specifies the amount of RAM, in bytes, that Windows can use. For example, if you want Windows to use less than 64 MB of memory, use the /maxmem=64 switch. However, the /maxmem switch does not account for memory holes. Therefore, we recommend that you use the /burnmemory switch instead. The /burnmemory switch accounts for memory holes. For example, if you use the /Maxmem=64 switch, and the system requires 64 MB of memory to load, there may not actually be 64 MB availalbe to the system because of a memory hole. In this scenario, Windows would not start. For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 108393 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/108393/) MAXMEM option in Windows NT Boot.ini file

February 13th, 2007, 04:48 PM	#10
Jad Meouchy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 663	I am using XP x64 and did not have to do anything at all to get Ppro 2.0 to work. I don't know about official benchmarks, but it does run much faster than 32-bit. Previews are faster, rendering is faster, encoding is faster. Everything is faster. It is not fully 64-bit, but it does have some 64-bit optimized code. I don't find it to be particularly stable, though. But then again, I never have found Premiere to be stable. As far as Vista goes, it is slower overall than XP, so unless the test is between Vista 32 and Vista 64, it doesn't really help us with this question.