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Kalulu Ngilo · June 27th, 2007, 09:49 PM

hello,

i have been using Premiere 2 for about 2yrs now and until 2 months earlier, I noticed that i was getting very disappointed with the way premiere handled my video. I recently purchased a camera thats HD and down converting in premiere to dvd has resulted in some very blurry video thats lacking that hd sweetness.

Color Correction in premiere is a pain to say the least and my final product on h264/quicktime always ends up looking hazy/smoky and lacking that colorful picture. Today at work i found myself seriously contemplating getting an apple system just for the editing and color correcting the videos.

I'm I alone in this thought or are there other people here that found or keep finding themselves in the same situation?

i use premiere and adobe media encoder just plainly disappoints in quality. so now i use premiere-> debug_frameserve-> TMPGEnc express then to high quality h264 file, then to quicktime and i bring the quality of the video/audio down for final product. This is extremely painful and i think paying $799 for a product that ditches you at the end is unacceptable.

anyone find good ways to color correct in premiere? what options do you use? outputting for web/dvd, what solutions do you use?

Todd Clark · June 28th, 2007, 07:32 AM

You just need to learn the tricks. The trick for the HD to is to edit HDV and then import that into a standard definition project, resize the scale parameter to fit the frame, then export. That improves quality quiet a bit.

The color correcting I never had a problem with it. It just takes practice. I find RGB Curves pretty useful.

Steven Gotz · June 28th, 2007, 10:07 AM

The scaling down issue is apparently fixed in Premiere Pro CS3 so the extra woraround (which works just fine) will no longer be necessary.

Kalulu Ngilo · June 28th, 2007, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Clark

You just need to learn the tricks. The trick for the HD to is to edit HDV and then import that into a standard definition project, resize the scale parameter to fit the frame, then export. That improves quality quiet a bit.

The color correcting I never had a problem with it. It just takes practice. I find RGB Curves pretty useful.

isnt that the same thing as just exporting the dvd. i mean you have a project thats HDV and it moves it to DVD and you will still end up with the same picture wouldnt you?

Todd Clark · June 29th, 2007, 07:20 AM

You would think it would be the same but there is a bug with Premiere on this issue. It will be fixed in CS3 but for 2.0 you need to import the project into a new SD project.

Ervin Farkas · June 29th, 2007, 08:31 AM

Kalulu, there are alternatives that will yield a much better picture compared to the "import into SD project" method. Trust me, I tested them all.

See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=70792. All you need in addition to what you already have (PremPro and TMPGEnc) is a freeware, VirtualDub, for resizing.

June 27th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#1
Kalulu Ngilo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 112	3year itch. hello, i have been using Premiere 2 for about 2yrs now and until 2 months earlier, I noticed that i was getting very disappointed with the way premiere handled my video. I recently purchased a camera thats HD and down converting in premiere to dvd has resulted in some very blurry video thats lacking that hd sweetness. Color Correction in premiere is a pain to say the least and my final product on h264/quicktime always ends up looking hazy/smoky and lacking that colorful picture. Today at work i found myself seriously contemplating getting an apple system just for the editing and color correcting the videos. I'm I alone in this thought or are there other people here that found or keep finding themselves in the same situation? i use premiere and adobe media encoder just plainly disappoints in quality. so now i use premiere-> debug_frameserve-> TMPGEnc express then to high quality h264 file, then to quicktime and i bring the quality of the video/audio down for final product. This is extremely painful and i think paying $799 for a product that ditches you at the end is unacceptable. anyone find good ways to color correct in premiere? what options do you use? outputting for web/dvd, what solutions do you use?

June 28th, 2007, 10:07 AM	#3
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	The scaling down issue is apparently fixed in Premiere Pro CS3 so the extra woraround (which works just fine) will no longer be necessary. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

June 29th, 2007, 08:31 AM	#6
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	Kalulu, there are alternatives that will yield a much better picture compared to the "import into SD project" method. Trust me, I tested them all. See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=70792. All you need in addition to what you already have (PremPro and TMPGEnc) is a freeware, VirtualDub, for resizing. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

June 28th, 2007, 07:32 AM	#2
Todd Clark Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Parma, Oh Posts: 172	You just need to learn the tricks. The trick for the HD to is to edit HDV and then import that into a standard definition project, resize the scale parameter to fit the frame, then export. That improves quality quiet a bit. The color correcting I never had a problem with it. It just takes practice. I find RGB Curves pretty useful.

June 29th, 2007, 07:20 AM	#5
Todd Clark Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Parma, Oh Posts: 172	You would think it would be the same but there is a bug with Premiere on this issue. It will be fixed in CS3 but for 2.0 you need to import the project into a new SD project.