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Lonnie Bell August 26th, 2007 01:12 AM

Final Mix Questions...
 
Any ballpark suggestions or recommended reading for sound levels on:
Dialog track, ambience track, music track, sfx track for final mix down?
(ie. dialog: -6, sfx -2, ambience -12, etc... <not suggesting these, just
clarifying my question!>)

(Output for DVD of dramatic narrative material if this makes a difference...)

thanks,
Lonnie

Steve House August 26th, 2007 05:34 AM

Are you mastering for stereo or 5.1?

SMPTE standards call for 0VU (+4dBu) tone and average levels to fall at -20dBFS with program peaks hitting -12dBFS or -10dBFS. Your dialog track controls the final mix and the other tracks should be adjusted by ear against it.

Lonnie Bell August 27th, 2007 01:46 PM

steve, presently mastering for stereo but how would it differ for 5.1 other than panning?

Steve House August 27th, 2007 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonnie Bell (Post 735174)
steve, presently mastering for stereo but how would it differ for 5.1 other than panning?

There are specific requirements for Dolby Digital encoding. I don't have all the details at the top of my head but one that comes to mind is that dialog should be normalized at -27dBFS.

Lonnie Bell August 27th, 2007 09:13 PM

steve, do you know of any good reference books or websites i should own/browse to educate myself??

thanks,
Lonnie

Jon Fairhurst August 27th, 2007 10:15 PM

I recommend sampling the analog outputs of one of your favorite DVDs, and matching that. When I did that with the Matrix 3, I found the dialog to be about 12dB below full scale.

Don't take my word though. Find a DVD of a similar genre, sample it and use it as a mix target. You can then play it and your early attempts back to back for comparison.

Steve House August 28th, 2007 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonnie Bell (Post 735363)
steve, do you know of any good reference books or websites i should own/browse to educate myself??

thanks,
Lonnie

Thomlinson Holman's books "Sound for Digital Video" and "Sound for Film and Television" are very good, as are Jay Rose's "Great Sound for Digital Video" and "Audio Post Production for Digital Video." Holman's are more in-depth technically while Rose's are more generalized. They compliment each other well.

David Tamés August 28th, 2007 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve House (Post 735462)
Thomlinson Holman's books "Sound for Digital Video" and "Sound for Film and Television" are very good, as are Jay Rose's "Great Sound for Digital Video" and "Audio Post Production for Digital Video." Holman's are more in-depth technically while Rose's are more generalized. They compliment each other well.

Those are all excellent books, no library should be without them, I would add to the list David Moulton's "Total Recording" which is a book that evolved out of Moulton's teaching experience, so it offers excellent coverage of topics with detailed explanations that help reduce confusion, and written in a style unlike other texts. While the focus is not specifically film related, Moulton's explanation of the basics will make reading other books easier. It's a good solid reference I often turn to.


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