How is the NT3 for a beater? at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio

All Things Audio
Everything Audio, from acquisition to postproduction.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old October 21st, 2007, 09:24 AM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Asheville NC
Posts: 426
How is the NT3 for a beater?

I'm dragging some stuff overseas to film the family vacation but chances of getting stuff ripped off is high (Rome). I have an HV20 and Beachtek and sm57 but hissy, hissy. My NT3 does much better recording kids voices indoors with the beachtek and I want to interview them via handheld but I'm thinking the NT3 is heavy and they'll probably drop it. The SM57 has taken some heavy drops but it still works great if it's hooked up to a mixer that can handle dynamics. What about the NT3? Can it take a beating or no? I'm guessing no, no, no but it never hurts to ask.

Last edited by Matt Buys; October 21st, 2007 at 09:25 AM. Reason: No coffee before proofing.
Matt Buys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 23rd, 2007, 12:29 PM   #2
DVCreators.Net
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 888
A dynamic mic is something to pound nails with, but a condenser mic such as the NT3 should be treated like the delicate piece of gear it is. I even go so far as to keep mine in the original plastic with a silica gel pack. Just because it doesn't cost an arm and a leg doesn't mean that it isn't a sensitive piece of equipment. Shotgun mics can take more abuse than the NT3 if you want something to toss in your bag and not worry about. A short shotgun that doesn't require phantom power is something I'm still looking for. Most "short shotguns" that are self powered look monstrous on the tiny HV20. Although you could get a BeachTek DXA-6 with phantom and use the RODE NTG-1, which is a nice fit. The RODE SM3 shockmount doesn't seem to fit easily though on an HV20. A Sennheiser MZSCAM shockmount fits nicely and it a good price.
__________________
Guy Cochran
DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!
Guy Cochran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 23rd, 2007, 03:19 PM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Asheville NC
Posts: 426
Thanks Guy. I figured this was the case but I'm always looking for more gear that can be abused. You have answered other questions of mine and I appreciate it. I buy stuff from you when I can. You suggested a Merlin to me not so long ago over the phone for the HV20 and it has worked like a dream. I have a ME 66 and have been eyeing the blimp for it at your DVEstore. After christmas I hope to buy one from you.
Matt Buys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 23rd, 2007, 03:37 PM   #4
DVCreators.Net
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 888
Cool! Nice to hear.
As much as I like and respect the Sennheiser pistol grip set-up, I have found something new from K-TEK for a bit less.
Take a look http://www.dvcreators.net/k-tek-zeppelin-windscreen/
It does not set-up as fast as the Sennheiser, nor does it have a pistol grip, but it is less than half the price!
__________________
Guy Cochran
DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!
Guy Cochran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 23rd, 2007, 11:21 PM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Asheville NC
Posts: 426
Thus far I've been very happy with the gear you've suggested. It's always good bang for the buck. How good is the Ktek blimp compared to the Sennheiser? 70% at half the price or more like 90%. What do you honestly think?
Matt Buys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 24th, 2007, 12:07 PM   #6
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 287
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Buys View Post
I have an HV20 and Beachtek and sm57 but hissy, hissy.
Because dynamic mics put out such a weak signal, they are totally dependant on the quality of the pre-amp they are connected to.

The hiss you are hearing when using your SM57 mic is the HV20's pre-amp struggling to provide enough gain to the SM57's weak signal.

The signal from your NT3 mic is 6x stronger than the SM57 mic, so your HV20's pre-amp doesn't have to use as much gain, resulting in a much quieter recording.

To use the SM57 mic with your HV20 you're going to have to add a high-quality pre-amp to boost the SM57's signal without adding much noise.

If you don't mind the extra bulk, the Sound Devices MM-1 or MixPre units do a great at boosting weak signals with very little noise.

Last edited by Guy McLoughlin; October 24th, 2007 at 12:43 PM.
Guy McLoughlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 24th, 2007, 07:26 PM   #7
DVCreators.Net
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 888
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Buys View Post
Thus far I've been very happy with the gear you've suggested. It's always good bang for the buck. How good is the Ktek blimp compared to the Sennheiser? 70% at half the price or more like 90%. What do you honestly think?
I'd say 85% at half the cost.
The Sennheiser "hairy" has fine thin long hair and a netted blimp. The K-TEK has no net around the blimp cage but does have foam at both ends.
The foam will take off some of the high frequencies. So the Sennheiser will sound a bit better, but at twice the cost, it's all relative.
__________________
Guy Cochran
DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!
Guy Cochran is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:14 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network