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Old November 21st, 2007, 06:07 PM   #1
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1 cup or two ?

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Recently slapped a Cannon XL-H1 on my shoulder and found it slightly awkward for monitoring sound without eadphones.

As the camera is so close to your head is it better to seek a headphone set with one cup so that the camera side is left clear or are two speaker cups essential?

Thanks in advance,

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Old November 21st, 2007, 07:50 PM   #2
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I would go with in-ear. You can by some really nice headphones from Sony or Bose that don't have to cup your ear, but still give premium sound for monitoring.

That would be my best suggestion.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 04:23 PM   #3
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When you monitor the sound that's going to tape, that's precisely what you want to to do. Hear the SOUND GOING TO TAPE.

If you're in a noisy environment - single cup earphones won't help you much since it's essentially impossible to "concentrate" on the sound in one ear while you OTHER ear is exposed to the environmental noise and determine how much of that environmental noise is reaching your tape.

Decent (minimum +$100 or so) headphones are the tool that will let you quickly hear (in the field where you hopefully can DO something about it) most of what's ACTUALLY going onto your recording.

Once you have the tool (headphones) to hear problems, you also need to train yourself to LISTEN for them - but without that isolated window into your sound - you'll find yourself constantly being fooled when your field tapes don't sound the way you thought they did out in the field.

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Old November 22nd, 2007, 05:14 PM   #4
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Thank you - and some help back...

Hi Timothy
Thanks for the note. I will forget using single can headphones.
I checked out iffactor. Nice style - but it needs adjusting.
While viewing the page - the main menu is sitting over the side of the page content making it unreadable.
Couldn't send you an email as your settings prohibit. Could not send an email via the iffcator site (could not find contact link), so I placed a screen capture showing you what I see on your page here: http://www.morningwell.co.uk/timothy.htm - hope it helps.
let me know when you've viewed so I can take it down please.
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I would go with in-ear. You can by some really nice headphones from Sony or Bose that don't have to cup your ear, but still give premium sound for monitoring.

That would be my best suggestion.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 09:34 PM   #5
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Hi
Recently slapped a Cannon XL-H1 on my shoulder and found it slightly awkward for monitoring sound without eadphones.
As the camera is so close to your head is it better to seek a headphone set with one cup so that the camera side is left clear or are two speaker cups essential?
Thanks in advance,
Dave
At some point, Dave, you run out of brain cells and need another human being. Feel good that you have reached the point where paying rapt attention to get the best audio possible is part of your service. Now find a partner or other audio savvy person to lighten the load. Oh, and don't be afraid to raise your rate so you can pay that person properly.

Sure, you can pick from these:
http://www.sweetwater.com/c454--In-Ear_Monitors

And functionally you can work that way, but it doesn't address the problem of overly-distributed brain power.

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Old November 22nd, 2007, 10:59 PM   #6
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Dave,

Thanks for that! I enabled the email feature on my account. Don't know how that wasn't enabled.

You can take the image down now. Thanks again! ;-)
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 03:07 AM   #7
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You're welcome....

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Dave,

Thanks for that! I enabled the email feature on my account. Don't know how that wasn't enabled.

You can take the image down now. Thanks again! ;-)
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 03:10 AM   #8
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Great advice - thanks

Will keep that in mind, and have a look at some of those in ear jobs.

Thanks.

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At some point, Dave, you run out of brain cells and need another human being. Feel good that you have reached the point where paying rapt attention to get the best audio possible is part of your service. Now find a partner or other audio savvy person to lighten the load. Oh, and don't be afraid to raise your rate so you can pay that person properly.

Sure, you can pick from these:
http://www.sweetwater.com/c454--In-Ear_Monitors

And functionally you can work that way, but it doesn't address the problem of overly-distributed brain power.

Regards,

Ty Ford
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