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Yung Mah December 30th, 2007 05:51 AM

3 Mic systems for HVR-Z1U
 
I've been doing research on buying 3 microphones setups for my HVR-Z1U, before I take the plunge, would you recommend anything else, this is what I decided on;

1. Sennheiser ME66/K6 - Super-Cardioid Short Shotgun Condenser Microphone Kit Includes: Universal Shock Mount XLR Right Angle Cable Windscreen

2. Rode NT3 - Hypercardioid Studio Condenser Microphone

3. Sennheiser Evolution G2 100 Series - Camera Mountable UHF Wireless Lavalier and Plug-On Bundle with EK100G2 Receiver, SKP100G2 Plug-On Transmitter, SK100G2 BodyPack Transmitter and ME2 Microphone (C 740-776 MHz)

Steve House December 30th, 2007 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Mah (Post 799930)
I've been doing research on buying 3 microphones setups for my HVR-Z1U, before I take the plunge, would you recommend anything else, this is what I decided on;

1. Sennheiser ME66/K6 - Super-Cardioid Short Shotgun Condenser Microphone Kit Includes: Universal Shock Mount XLR Right Angle Cable Windscreen

2. Rode NT3 - Hypercardioid Studio Condenser Microphone

3. Sennheiser Evolution G2 100 Series - Camera Mountable UHF Wireless Lavalier and Plug-On Bundle with EK100G2 Receiver, SKP100G2 Plug-On Transmitter, SK100G2 BodyPack Transmitter and ME2 Microphone (C 740-776 MHz)

All three are good setups but you left out the critical component - just what you will be shooting? For example, the Rode would be a good mic on a stand in the studio but requires the strength of Hercules from a boom operator when used as a boom mic. The ME66 would be fine for ambience and outdoors (though a bit harsh shounding) but wouldn't sound good for dialog recording indoors or capturing wedding vows from the camera position.

Dan Keaton December 30th, 2007 08:30 AM

Dear Yung,

Personally, I have been avoiding the Sennheiser "C" frequencies, 740-776 MHz, due to the uncertainty of the future use of this portion of the frequency spectrum. This applies only if you are located in the US.

I would recommend a "A" or "B" version, depending on your location.

The Sennheiser Frequency Finder is a very useful tool:

http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite...qfinder-ew.asp

Yung Mah January 1st, 2008 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve House (Post 799939)
All three are good setups but you left out the critical component - just what you will be shooting? For example, the Rode would be a good mic on a stand in the studio but requires the strength of Hercules from a boom operator when used as a boom mic. The ME66 would be fine for ambience and outdoors (though a bit harsh shounding) but wouldn't sound good for dialog recording indoors or capturing wedding vows from the camera position.

I want to general shooting such as Wedddings, do you any recommendations for mics?

Steve House January 1st, 2008 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Mah (Post 800725)
I want to general shooting such as Wedddings, do you any recommendations for mics?

For weddings etc there's nothing I would object to in your mic selection as long as you use them for the approriate circumstance. I wonder, however, what you're planning to use the NT3 for? I suggest adding a hand-held dynamic like a Shure or an EV-RE50

Ben Syverson January 1st, 2008 02:20 PM

I bought the ME66 because it's what I used in art school, but in retrospect I wish I had bought just about anything else. I liked the idea that it's modular, but I can't see myself buying another capsule for it. A good short shotgun (there are tons of recommendation threads here) will work well for certain things when you're outside, but I can't imagine it being a "must have" for weddings.

The Rode also might be a little bulky -- if you're trying to pack small and light, there are a lot of small hypercardioid condensers out there.

Yung Mah January 1st, 2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve House (Post 800751)
For weddings etc there's nothing I would object to in your mic selection as long as you use them for the approriate circumstance. I wonder, however, what you're planning to use the NT3 for? I suggest adding a hand-held dynamic like a Shure or an EV-RE50

What about the
AT4053a
Hypercardioid Condenser Microphone

instead of the NT3

Ben Syverson January 1st, 2008 07:09 PM

I'll let you know in a few days -- I have one coming in the mail. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Mah (Post 801000)
What about the
AT4053a
Hypercardioid Condenser Microphone

instead of the NT3


Ty Ford January 1st, 2008 07:20 PM

It isn't a Schoeps, but should be a lot easier to use and sound better than the NT3.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Steve House January 2nd, 2008 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Mah (Post 801000)
What about the
AT4053a
Hypercardioid Condenser Microphone

instead of the NT3

Better choice on a boom, as Ty said.

Ty Ford January 2nd, 2008 09:35 AM

I don't know where the NT3 as boom mic idea got started. Maybe as a locked down boom with no one holding it. Given its weight and form I can't imagine anyone hand holding it on a boom.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Wayne Brissette January 2nd, 2008 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty Ford (Post 801246)
I don't know where the NT3 as boom mic idea got started.

Somebody here on the forum mentioned that they had used the NT3 on a boom and liked the sound of it. For some reason that thread must have lead others to thinking that it was the way to do it (it's not).

Wayne

Jim Boda January 2nd, 2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Mah (Post 799930)
1. Sennheiser ME66/K6 - Super-Cardioid Short Shotgun Condenser Microphone Kit Includes: Universal Shock Mount XLR Right Angle Cable Windscreen...

I'm definitely not a fan of the ME66.

Not knowing what your bugdet is...I would recommend that you try to find something better that still fits in your price range.

Yung Mah January 2nd, 2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Boda (Post 801266)
I'm definitely not a fan of the ME66.

Not knowing what your bugdet is...I would recommend that you try to find something better that still fits in your price range.

I haven't made the purchases yet, but getting everybodies advice, before I do make the purchases, I appreciates all the help, because I only want to buy once, if I have to spent more money so be it.

What would you sugest for a shotgun mic, within reason
Thanks

Ben Syverson January 2nd, 2008 01:22 PM

My advice would be to take a long look at why you think you need a shotgun at all... If I had it to do over again, I'd save a few hundred bucks and not buy one.


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