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Old December 30th, 2007, 05:51 AM   #1
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3 Mic systems for HVR-Z1U

I've been doing research on buying 3 microphones setups for my HVR-Z1U, before I take the plunge, would you recommend anything else, this is what I decided on;

1. Sennheiser ME66/K6 - Super-Cardioid Short Shotgun Condenser Microphone Kit Includes: Universal Shock Mount XLR Right Angle Cable Windscreen

2. Rode NT3 - Hypercardioid Studio Condenser Microphone

3. Sennheiser Evolution G2 100 Series - Camera Mountable UHF Wireless Lavalier and Plug-On Bundle with EK100G2 Receiver, SKP100G2 Plug-On Transmitter, SK100G2 BodyPack Transmitter and ME2 Microphone (C 740-776 MHz)
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Old December 30th, 2007, 06:39 AM   #2
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I've been doing research on buying 3 microphones setups for my HVR-Z1U, before I take the plunge, would you recommend anything else, this is what I decided on;

1. Sennheiser ME66/K6 - Super-Cardioid Short Shotgun Condenser Microphone Kit Includes: Universal Shock Mount XLR Right Angle Cable Windscreen

2. Rode NT3 - Hypercardioid Studio Condenser Microphone

3. Sennheiser Evolution G2 100 Series - Camera Mountable UHF Wireless Lavalier and Plug-On Bundle with EK100G2 Receiver, SKP100G2 Plug-On Transmitter, SK100G2 BodyPack Transmitter and ME2 Microphone (C 740-776 MHz)
All three are good setups but you left out the critical component - just what you will be shooting? For example, the Rode would be a good mic on a stand in the studio but requires the strength of Hercules from a boom operator when used as a boom mic. The ME66 would be fine for ambience and outdoors (though a bit harsh shounding) but wouldn't sound good for dialog recording indoors or capturing wedding vows from the camera position.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 08:30 AM   #3
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Dear Yung,

Personally, I have been avoiding the Sennheiser "C" frequencies, 740-776 MHz, due to the uncertainty of the future use of this portion of the frequency spectrum. This applies only if you are located in the US.

I would recommend a "A" or "B" version, depending on your location.

The Sennheiser Frequency Finder is a very useful tool:

http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite...qfinder-ew.asp
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Old January 1st, 2008, 03:32 AM   #4
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All three are good setups but you left out the critical component - just what you will be shooting? For example, the Rode would be a good mic on a stand in the studio but requires the strength of Hercules from a boom operator when used as a boom mic. The ME66 would be fine for ambience and outdoors (though a bit harsh shounding) but wouldn't sound good for dialog recording indoors or capturing wedding vows from the camera position.
I want to general shooting such as Wedddings, do you any recommendations for mics?
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Old January 1st, 2008, 07:25 AM   #5
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I want to general shooting such as Wedddings, do you any recommendations for mics?
For weddings etc there's nothing I would object to in your mic selection as long as you use them for the approriate circumstance. I wonder, however, what you're planning to use the NT3 for? I suggest adding a hand-held dynamic like a Shure or an EV-RE50
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Old January 1st, 2008, 02:20 PM   #6
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I bought the ME66 because it's what I used in art school, but in retrospect I wish I had bought just about anything else. I liked the idea that it's modular, but I can't see myself buying another capsule for it. A good short shotgun (there are tons of recommendation threads here) will work well for certain things when you're outside, but I can't imagine it being a "must have" for weddings.

The Rode also might be a little bulky -- if you're trying to pack small and light, there are a lot of small hypercardioid condensers out there.
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Old January 1st, 2008, 06:55 PM   #7
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For weddings etc there's nothing I would object to in your mic selection as long as you use them for the approriate circumstance. I wonder, however, what you're planning to use the NT3 for? I suggest adding a hand-held dynamic like a Shure or an EV-RE50
What about the
AT4053a
Hypercardioid Condenser Microphone

instead of the NT3
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Old January 1st, 2008, 07:09 PM   #8
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I'll let you know in a few days -- I have one coming in the mail. :)

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What about the
AT4053a
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instead of the NT3
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Old January 1st, 2008, 07:20 PM   #9
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It isn't a Schoeps, but should be a lot easier to use and sound better than the NT3.

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Old January 2nd, 2008, 04:19 AM   #10
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What about the
AT4053a
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instead of the NT3
Better choice on a boom, as Ty said.
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:35 AM   #11
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I don't know where the NT3 as boom mic idea got started. Maybe as a locked down boom with no one holding it. Given its weight and form I can't imagine anyone hand holding it on a boom.

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Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:57 AM   #12
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I don't know where the NT3 as boom mic idea got started.
Somebody here on the forum mentioned that they had used the NT3 on a boom and liked the sound of it. For some reason that thread must have lead others to thinking that it was the way to do it (it's not).

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Old January 2nd, 2008, 10:02 AM   #13
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1. Sennheiser ME66/K6 - Super-Cardioid Short Shotgun Condenser Microphone Kit Includes: Universal Shock Mount XLR Right Angle Cable Windscreen...
I'm definitely not a fan of the ME66.

Not knowing what your bugdet is...I would recommend that you try to find something better that still fits in your price range.
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 11:42 AM   #14
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I'm definitely not a fan of the ME66.

Not knowing what your bugdet is...I would recommend that you try to find something better that still fits in your price range.
I haven't made the purchases yet, but getting everybodies advice, before I do make the purchases, I appreciates all the help, because I only want to buy once, if I have to spent more money so be it.

What would you sugest for a shotgun mic, within reason
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 01:22 PM   #15
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My advice would be to take a long look at why you think you need a shotgun at all... If I had it to do over again, I'd save a few hundred bucks and not buy one.
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