Edirol R-44: Sync with picture
Hi everyone,
I want to get the R-44 but I'm concerned about its lack of Time Code. Has anyone experienced problems syncing picture with audio from this recorder, using the clapper board method? Regards, Andres. |
No, I've got my R44 from Pinknoise-Systems in the UK and it has synced every time. Although I haven't used to sync longer than 12minutes of continuous audio. I was once in a hurry and didn't take a clapboard with me so I just clapped in the end of the shoot and it synced well.
T |
Hi Toenis,
Thanks for your answer. Well I think it should be fine as mainly I'm working in short films, so takes are not that long anyway. Also could you tell me about your experience with the Preamps, do you connect your mics directly or you go through a mixer first? Regards, Andres. |
hi,
I am using my R44 for documentary work. so far no real probs. I just clap wih hands. syncing is easier then I tought, especially if you have a sound/boomoperator.. I use it with the -NTG3 and senny g2 100 series, the preamps work fine for me..anyway, a recorder can only read timecode. so if your camera doesnt have it..my canon xhA1 doesnt anyway and what other (payable)options are there left then except bad comptessed hdv sound? grtz |
Hi Andres
I haven't used this recorder but I have recorded separate sound using other devices. I don't know if you are aware of this technique. If you record onto the camera tape using the onboard mic you can use this track to get your sync in your NLE. Slide the separate sound track, whilst listening to both, until the echo disappears. I don't think that this will work if you are recording sound a long way from the camera because of the delay. |
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I've found that in some point the R44 interferes my receiver when I place it in front of on on the back (bottom) of the recorder it appears on one side of the recorder more than on the other. Any ideas? T |
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Regarding the TC, I found that the R-4 Pro can be Slave or Master, so it generates Time Code. I guess all expensive recorders do. Regards, Andres. |
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Thank you Richard, I never heard of that technique before; but I think you are right about the problem with the delay. Actually I'm more concerned about problems with the clock of the recorder, as I read the Zoom H-4 will show a difference of more than a second in around 30 minutes compared to other devices; so it is difficult to accurately sync sound and picture. Andres. |
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Regards, Andres. |
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They use different internal clock crystals. Zooms are cheap. Edirol's are not. I haven't had any issues with my R-44 holding sync. |
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Happy sliding. Regards, Ty Ford |
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What I find also works well is in Vegas I can blow up the waveform view, visually find corresponding points in the camcorder and external recorder sound (I use a PCM-D50), and slide the external recorder sound until it matches up. |
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