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Old October 14th, 2008, 07:11 AM   #1
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Mic throwing a shadow.

I have an IDX X3 light and the K6+ME66 combo. The problem is, that the mic throws a shadow when the lights being used. Is there a way round this. I have the mic pulled back as far as I can. Sony DSR390 camera BTW.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 07:17 AM   #2
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Get the Mini Rover.

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Either mount the light or the mic on the Mini Rover. I like to mount the light on it, as it makes your subject look less flat. It is well constructed by the way. Definitely worth the money. It also helps with camera stability. Just a great accessory for handheld shooting.

You could also try the ME64 capsule, which is a lot shorter. Heck, get the ME64 anyway. It's a great on-camera mic. I much prefer it to the ME66.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 07:22 AM   #3
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.....Heck, get the ME64 anyway. It's a great on-camera mic. I much prefer it to the ME66.
OT (sorry!) - Marco - can I ask why you prefer the ME64 on-camera? I have ME66 and ME64, but never tried the ME64 on-camera - keen to know what your findings are...
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Old October 14th, 2008, 07:39 AM   #4
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Heck, get the ME64 anyway. It's a great on-camera mic. I much prefer it to the ME66.
If its shorter It might just work for me.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 07:47 AM   #5
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Smaller, less awkward, and does a fine job of picking up dialog. Both mics have a presence peak that is optimized for the human voice that does more to pick up vocals even at a distance than the interference tube accomplishes for the ME66. Also, being a cardiod, the ME64 has excellent rear rejection (remember that shotguns typically pick up sound from the rear, nearly as much as from the front) that reduces camera operator noises and sounds coming from behind you.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 07:55 AM   #6
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Thanks all, How much shorter is the ME64 compared to the ME66.


Had look at the two on the net and the ME64 is a good bit shorter (115mm I think)

Have to put that on the list to get, when I can afford it.

Thanks.

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Old October 14th, 2008, 08:10 AM   #7
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Hey, just happen to have both of 'em (and a tape measure) handy! The ME64 seems to be 4 inches and 3/8s shorter. Seeing as how you're in Ireland that's 10.3 centimeters. Guess metric is handier.
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Hi Marco, thanks for that, 4" roughly thats right. I think that would work for me just fine, thats a lot shorter. Didn't think of the ME64.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 09:25 AM   #9
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Also have a look at using a Bracket 1 or Bracket 1 Mini.
Here are some views of mine. I use an ME66. The light will throw a shadow if closer than 8' from a wall. I'm thinking of an ME64 too but prefer to lav mic if I can. A dedicated boom operator is ideal.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 11:33 AM   #10
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Thanks M.Paul El-Darwish.
A dedicated boom operator would be ideal but, I just operate myself :)
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Old October 14th, 2008, 04:59 PM   #11
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the sony cac-12 mic mount should fix the problem. It's adjustable (it swivels) and Istill use it onmy small form factor cameras. I used it on my JVC5000 (had to "adjust" one of the mounting holes) my DSR250 and have had it on a 300. Here's the rub though. It ain't cheap (what is) but it works great. This might help with the 'nasty shadow'.

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Old October 15th, 2008, 01:29 AM   #12
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I'll check that out Don, Thanks.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 04:53 AM   #13
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Smaller, less awkward, and does a fine job of picking up dialog. Both mics have a presence peak that is optimized for the human voice that does more to pick up vocals even at a distance than the interference tube accomplishes for the ME66. Also, being a cardiod, the ME64 has excellent rear rejection (remember that shotguns typically pick up sound from the rear, nearly as much as from the front) that reduces camera operator noises and sounds coming from behind you.
Thanks from me too, Marco. Looks like it's worth trying the ME64 in place of the ME66 one day!
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Old October 22nd, 2008, 03:09 AM   #14
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K6/ME66 too hot.

I have the Sennheiser K6/ME66 and is way to hot for the disco, would the ME62 be a better choice.
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Old October 22nd, 2008, 09:20 AM   #15
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I doubt it. Use a pad, or perhaps a dynamic mic (they're cheap) if it's really loud.
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