What to call yourself if you create a song with Acid loops? at DVinfo.net

Michael Wisniewski · April 2nd, 2009, 07:45 PM

What credit would you give yourself if you created a song using Acid loops? A composer? Arranger? Programmer? DJ? Studio Engineer?

David W. Jones · April 2nd, 2009, 07:50 PM

Acid Head?

Seth Bloombaum · April 2nd, 2009, 08:23 PM

Loopy?

I mean, "composer".

Colin McDonald · April 3rd, 2009, 12:40 PM

If you are creating music by whatever means other than improvising the performance or leaving matters entirely to chance, you are a composer.

If Stockhausen or Cage were still around, I'm sure they would agree.

The question remains as to whether what Andrew Lloyd Webber produces can be called music :-)

Jay Massengill · April 3rd, 2009, 01:56 PM

I usually say "I did this on Acid", and then wait for the strange looks...

Chris Rackauckas · April 3rd, 2009, 03:17 PM

You are a composer or DJ if you splice, re-sample, edit, eq, compress, add extra sounds and synthesizers and such to a sample.

If you just play the loop... well, hopefully you have a decent commercial library that PERFECTLY fits the mood (which it never does... so you better be editing the crap out of them), then you aren't doing anything... just using royalty free music.

Christopher Glavan · April 3rd, 2009, 09:37 PM

Well technically if you are creating original music you are a composer; if you're sampling, cutting, etc. then you are an arranger. A dj is a live arranger.

So if you're taking generic loops and splicing them together to create a totally new song, you would credit yourself as the composer. If you're taking copyrighted, royalty-free music and looping or rearranging it, you credit yourself as the arranger (make sure to credit the composer).

Ty Ford · April 4th, 2009, 05:12 AM

You're a looper.

It's probably not in Webster's yet.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Jonathan Bufkin · April 4th, 2009, 05:32 AM

I wouldn't call yourself a "looper." They aren't hiring "loopers" in Nashville...I don't know about LA. Programmer and composer are both accurate. You could even say Produced and Programmed by Michael Wisniewski.

April 2nd, 2009, 07:45 PM	#1
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Colin McDonald Trustee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,546	If you are creating music by whatever means other than improvising the performance or leaving matters entirely to chance, you are a composer. If Stockhausen or Cage were still around, I'm sure they would agree. The question remains as to whether what Andrew Lloyd Webber produces can be called music :-) Last edited by Colin McDonald; April 3rd, 2009 at 01:30 PM. Reason: Don't fancy being sued

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Christopher Glavan Major Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 260	Well technically if you are creating original music you are a composer; if you're sampling, cutting, etc. then you are an arranger. A dj is a live arranger. So if you're taking generic loops and splicing them together to create a totally new song, you would credit yourself as the composer. If you're taking copyrighted, royalty-free music and looping or rearranging it, you credit yourself as the arranger (make sure to credit the composer). __________________ Reel Impressions Media - Make it more than a memory GY-HD100- 7D- PSC Promix 3- Lectro/Sennheiser- Zoom H4- MPB- CS6/CC

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April 4th, 2009, 05:32 AM	#9
Jonathan Bufkin Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 253	I wouldn't call yourself a "looper." They aren't hiring "loopers" in Nashville...I don't know about LA. Programmer and composer are both accurate. You could even say Produced and Programmed by Michael Wisniewski. __________________ Jon Bufkin focalpointcinematic.com

April 2nd, 2009, 07:50 PM	#2
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	Acid Head?

April 2nd, 2009, 08:23 PM	#3
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Loopy? I mean, "composer".

April 3rd, 2009, 01:56 PM	#5
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	I usually say "I did this on Acid", and then wait for the strange looks...

April 3rd, 2009, 03:17 PM	#6
Chris Rackauckas Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Posts: 113	You are a composer or DJ if you splice, re-sample, edit, eq, compress, add extra sounds and synthesizers and such to a sample. If you just play the loop... well, hopefully you have a decent commercial library that PERFECTLY fits the mood (which it never does... so you better be editing the crap out of them), then you aren't doing anything... just using royalty free music.