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Old March 16th, 2004, 12:50 PM   #16
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A DVX100 will be simply amazing with the MK41. The Recording magazine small condenser shoot out went through the musical end and rated the Schoeps the best all round.

The AT 5051/4053 setup id pretty well. they reviewed the cardoid (4051) but the hyper (4053) is supposed to kick as_.
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Old March 16th, 2004, 03:29 PM   #17
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Thanks for the info.

How do you mount this on a boom, given its rather small size? I also find that very few regular microphone suppliers list it. Why is that?
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Old March 16th, 2004, 03:44 PM   #18
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Trew,Coffey,Location Sound, Cascade, Oade, Mic Supply,
there are 28 dealers in the US and 5 or so in Canada. They are choosey about who sells them and they are fair traded which means it's hard to get a discounted price. I got about 5% off the list and i considered myself lucky.


http://www.reddingaudio.com/schoeps/dealers.php


You can use a Schoeps, Rycote , Lightwave or a PSC to hang this off a pole. (I'm sure there are others) My rycote baby Ball gags fit the mic perfectly
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Old March 16th, 2004, 05:09 PM   #19
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It all looks pretty damn delicious. I like the maple box kit. :D

I assume it's an XLR connection? Would an AT shockmount work for it? It definitely looks like a microphone for the ages.
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Old March 16th, 2004, 05:29 PM   #20
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P.S. One more question: if the Schoeps proves an elusive goal at this time for me, what would you recommend as a strong if somewhat less pricey alternate? An AT 4073a perhaps? In a perfect world I'd have a shelf of wonder mics. :) I'm looking for a mic that is, if anything, more suited for music/singing than speaking voice, since I have an adequate voice mike at this time (SennME66).
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Old March 16th, 2004, 05:33 PM   #21
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The DVX100 audio is good, but it will not do justice to the Schoeps, at least not for music. A dual system would give much better sound quality, for example, the M-audio Duo recording onto a laptop.
The Schoeps is a top quality microphone. The better the equipment you use with it, the better it will sound. I record classical music using the MK41 with an MK8 as M/S stereo, into a Mackie mixer, Lynx L22 A/D converter, recording at 24 bit 192K onto a Dell laptop in a docking station. The sound is incredible. Way better than CD. Even when it is reduced back down to 16 bit 48 k to make a DVD, it still sounds phenomenal.
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Patrick, if you are on a PC system, try the iZotope for your dither down to 16, using triangle mode. You'll be surprised, I think. Very smooth, no zipping.
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Old March 16th, 2004, 05:52 PM   #23
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Patrick, that definitely does sounds phenomenal, and it's very impressive a setup, but it might be a wee bit overkill for my purposes--though given unlimited resources why not? :) I plan to do some location taping of musicians in rather close quarters, and am looking for an optimum mic, boomed, that would perhaps capture music and/or a singing voice or group better than other mics.
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Old March 16th, 2004, 07:43 PM   #24
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Look at the Oktava hypercardoid, there are some exapmples on that sitethat I sent you. The AT 4053a is an excellent alternative at $400 for a hyper capsule and preamp. The 4073 is also an excellent short shotgun at $530. Jeff Donald uses the long gun 4071 for nature audio, so you know that end of the line has to be good.

My VX2000 is sitting in customs right now having been modofied by Greg Winters.
http://www.gregjwinter.com/modification2.htm

If you read the mod info, I now record directly to the camera Analog to Digital converter at line level. I have to use my Sound Devices 302 or an MP1 for all inputs. it's as good as it gets.
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Old March 17th, 2004, 03:28 AM   #25
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Barry,
For a small music group, I think it would definitely be worth recording in stereo. You can get matched pairs of the Oktavas or the Rode NT5 (or the Rode NT4 stereo mike).

This is a good article about recording in stereo:
http://www.tape.com/Bartlett_Articles/stereo_recording_procedures.html

Dual system is not hugely expensive, if you already have a laptop. The M-audio USB duo is $250.

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I am using Soundforge 6, at its highest quality settings, to reduce to 16bit 48K. Is Izotope better?

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Old March 17th, 2004, 08:00 AM   #26
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Thanks for the info; I'm becoming an honorary audio geek. :)
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Old March 17th, 2004, 08:07 AM   #27
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The other title referenced in the Bruce Bartlett article is at

http://www.tape.com/Bartlett_Article...echniques.html
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yes, the iZotope is better. It's the best dithering tool I've heard. They also have a great guide to dithering on their website. Well worth the read.
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Old March 17th, 2004, 03:29 PM   #29
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The Rode N4 definitely looks promising, since until now I haven't paid much attention to stereo mics. The more I read about this model the more exceptional it seems. I would imagine I'd use it primarily on a boom.
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Old March 17th, 2004, 09:26 PM   #30
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The NT4 or for that matter any stereo rig will not give a proper image if boomed for all but a few instrumental applications. many of the tapers use a light stand with the stereo rig placed either well above the crowd , pointing at the subject or at a level plane , facing the subject.

FYI: Rode has done well in producing reasonably priced microphones that give amazing value for the dollar spent. They aren't made in china and are built like the proverbial brick out building :)

the Rode manual will give a few hints
http://www.rodemicrophones.com/usermanuals/nt4um.pdf

There are a few tutorials, i'll try and post some links.

http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/faq-mic.html
http://www.josephson.com
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