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Dave Largent · June 13th, 2004, 04:07 PM

I was covering an outdoor live band for the Chamber of
Commerse. It'll be part of a promo to get
people to come here.
Anyways, I was in the field with my Sony 7506s.
I've always felt that these are not particualarly
good for blocking out the surrounding
noise, but in front of that band I couldn't
even use them because the band was overpowering.
Are there any accuarate headphones that
would be a big leap up in isolation?
Of course, a main concern in this type of
shooting environment is distortion, so I need
headphones that will allow me to monitor.

Just as a post script, I was going line in to a VX
and had the pre-amp set to very minimum boost,
which I believe is 6 dB, and the pre-amp limiters were
*still* activating.

Marty Wein · June 13th, 2004, 05:39 PM

Check out the Remote Audio HN-7506

www.remoteaudio.com/hn7506.htm

Douglas Spotted Eagle · June 13th, 2004, 06:03 PM

The Remote Audio cans are pretty well an industry standard, and are very, very, good.
For me, I prefer to go the other route, isolating in the ear, rather than outside. This isn't *quite* as good as iso-cans like the remotes, but a heckuva lot lighter in weight. Cost is slightly higher though too.
http://www.etymotics.com
Look at the ER4 and 6. I carry the 4's with me everywhere I go.

Dave Largent · June 13th, 2004, 07:01 PM

Never heard of those HN-7506s before. I wish they came in black.
I nomally wear dark clothes to more blend in while
I'm working.
Anyone have any ideas in a black headphone.

Aaron Koolen · June 13th, 2004, 07:57 PM

You could also try some industrial strength ear muffs that will fit over the phones.

Aaron

Matt Gettemeier · June 15th, 2004, 06:41 PM

Maybe this will be a "Mr. Obvious" statement, but just in case anybody doesn't already know... The Remote Audio phones are aircraft headsets with 7506 guts. If somebody felt inspired enough they could pick-up some used Sigtronics headsets for $50 and pop in the guts of their 7506's...

When I used to fly I always thought that would be a good idea with my David Clarks... Bose makes some really high-end aviation cans, but I don't think an active cancelling system would be the ticket for random noise... it's more for droning sounds that can be phase cancelled.

UPDATE... I tried to find the best price on new aviation headsets and for anything new you'll be pushing $100... $80-$90 at the lowest... When you combine that cost with the cost of the 7506s the Remote Audio phones start looking pretty attractive...

Robert Knecht Schmidt · June 15th, 2004, 08:10 PM

Spot, that etymotics.com link appears to be a placeholder portal.

Marty Atias · June 17th, 2004, 05:32 AM

Also check out http://IFBSource.com for other in-ear monitors. In-ears are gaining popularity as lightweight, high quality audio monitors with very high isolation if used with custom ear molds.

Another more common choice is the Sennheiser HD-280 Pro headphones. Similar in design to the Sony 7506's, though larger, they are more robust, have a better headband, more durable cushions, a smoother frequency response (especially in the low end), and MUCH better ambient noise isolation. They are cheaper too.

Caution - Creating the Remote Audio HN-7506's took a bit more than just placing the drivers in an aviation headset. It took them quite some time to get them to sound right.

June 13th, 2004, 04:07 PM	#1
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	High-Isolation Headphones I was covering an outdoor live band for the Chamber of Commerse. It'll be part of a promo to get people to come here. Anyways, I was in the field with my Sony 7506s. I've always felt that these are not particualarly good for blocking out the surrounding noise, but in front of that band I couldn't even use them because the band was overpowering. Are there any accuarate headphones that would be a big leap up in isolation? Of course, a main concern in this type of shooting environment is distortion, so I need headphones that will allow me to monitor. Just as a post script, I was going line in to a VX and had the pre-amp set to very minimum boost, which I believe is 6 dB, and the pre-amp limiters were still activating.

June 13th, 2004, 06:03 PM	#3
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	The Remote Audio cans are pretty well an industry standard, and are very, very, good. For me, I prefer to go the other route, isolating in the ear, rather than outside. This isn't quite as good as iso-cans like the remotes, but a heckuva lot lighter in weight. Cost is slightly higher though too. http://www.etymotics.com Look at the ER4 and 6. I carry the 4's with me everywhere I go. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

June 13th, 2004, 07:57 PM	#5
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	You could also try some industrial strength ear muffs that will fit over the phones. Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

June 15th, 2004, 08:10 PM	#7
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	Spot, that etymotics.com link appears to be a placeholder portal. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 13th, 2004, 05:39 PM	#2
Marty Wein Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 229	Check out the Remote Audio HN-7506 www.remoteaudio.com/hn7506.htm

June 13th, 2004, 07:01 PM	#4
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Never heard of those HN-7506s before. I wish they came in black. I nomally wear dark clothes to more blend in while I'm working. Anyone have any ideas in a black headphone.

June 15th, 2004, 06:41 PM	#6
Matt Gettemeier Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 936	Maybe this will be a "Mr. Obvious" statement, but just in case anybody doesn't already know... The Remote Audio phones are aircraft headsets with 7506 guts. If somebody felt inspired enough they could pick-up some used Sigtronics headsets for $50 and pop in the guts of their 7506's... When I used to fly I always thought that would be a good idea with my David Clarks... Bose makes some really high-end aviation cans, but I don't think an active cancelling system would be the ticket for random noise... it's more for droning sounds that can be phase cancelled. UPDATE... I tried to find the best price on new aviation headsets and for anything new you'll be pushing $100... $80-$90 at the lowest... When you combine that cost with the cost of the 7506s the Remote Audio phones start looking pretty attractive...

June 17th, 2004, 05:32 AM	#8
Marty Atias Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 91	Also check out http://IFBSource.com for other in-ear monitors. In-ears are gaining popularity as lightweight, high quality audio monitors with very high isolation if used with custom ear molds. Another more common choice is the Sennheiser HD-280 Pro headphones. Similar in design to the Sony 7506's, though larger, they are more robust, have a better headband, more durable cushions, a smoother frequency response (especially in the low end), and MUCH better ambient noise isolation. They are cheaper too. Caution - Creating the Remote Audio HN-7506's took a bit more than just placing the drivers in an aviation headset. It took them quite some time to get them to sound right.