Re: Mic For Picking Up Cheering

Jay Massengill · May 5th, 2005, 08:10 AM

I have seen the ATM10a as low as $99 at online vendors, and the ATM31a as low as $129. The AT3031 is about $150 to $160 at the lowest but I've never checked too closely on the minimum for the AT3032.
The ME62 would have very high output, which can help cameras with poor mic preamps. For cameras with sensitive mic inputs it can be a problem in loud situations. The 3031 would be in the middle and the ATM's would be lower sensitivity.
The 3031 has a much more balanced frequency response than the 62 or 64, which have a peak in the highs. I think you could tell the difference between a 3032 and an ATM10a for music recording, but for an ambient track the main concern would be whether the ATM10a could have enough sensitivity to cover your camera's noise floor in a quiet situation.
Which one would sound the best all around would depend on your camera, what you were recording and the location, and how closely you were micing and how you mounted it.
The main reason to have an omni is for music and the cleaner off-axis response it gives. For video production, it's hard to imagine a time when you dont want to have the null-point of a cardioid to cancel out some offending sound.
I don't think there's a clear-cut answer, each of the mics has their advantages and disadvantages based on what you do the most.

Dave Largent · May 5th, 2005, 11:04 AM

Thanks, Jay, that was informative and covered
some points I hadn't considered.

Dave Largent · June 4th, 2005, 01:12 AM

I decided to try out the 3032 instead of the ATM10a.
For anyone looking for a good value in mikes,
the AT 30 Series seems to offer a lot for the money
when you take a look at the specs and features.
I see they've even got a large-diaphragm tube mic
in the 30 Series, which doesn't even require any separate
power supply for the tube other than regular 48V
phantom. Wonder how that tube mic sounds.

Ty Ford · June 4th, 2005, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Largent

I decided to try out the 3032 instead of the ATM10a.
For anyone looking for a good value in mikes,
the AT 30 Series seems to offer a lot for the money
when you take a look at the specs and features.
I see they've even got a large-diaphragm tube mic
in the 30 Series, which doesn't even require any separate
power supply for the tube other than regular 48V
phantom. Wonder how that tube mic sounds.

That would be the AT 3060. Sounds OK. Not thicky and tubey; more clear and aggressive.

Regards,

Ty Ford

George Ellis · June 4th, 2005, 10:22 PM

I would still recommend getting a shotgun. I found that I could cut out alot of noise from the stands using mine. Sometimes, you do not get the ideal position either, so having a little more 'reach' helps. It will also minimize operator noise. ;)

May 5th, 2005, 08:10 AM	#16
Jay Massengill Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burlington Posts: 1,976	I have seen the ATM10a as low as $99 at online vendors, and the ATM31a as low as $129. The AT3031 is about $150 to $160 at the lowest but I've never checked too closely on the minimum for the AT3032. The ME62 would have very high output, which can help cameras with poor mic preamps. For cameras with sensitive mic inputs it can be a problem in loud situations. The 3031 would be in the middle and the ATM's would be lower sensitivity. The 3031 has a much more balanced frequency response than the 62 or 64, which have a peak in the highs. I think you could tell the difference between a 3032 and an ATM10a for music recording, but for an ambient track the main concern would be whether the ATM10a could have enough sensitivity to cover your camera's noise floor in a quiet situation. Which one would sound the best all around would depend on your camera, what you were recording and the location, and how closely you were micing and how you mounted it. The main reason to have an omni is for music and the cleaner off-axis response it gives. For video production, it's hard to imagine a time when you dont want to have the null-point of a cardioid to cancel out some offending sound. I don't think there's a clear-cut answer, each of the mics has their advantages and disadvantages based on what you do the most.

May 5th, 2005, 11:04 AM	#17
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Thanks, Jay, that was informative and covered some points I hadn't considered.

June 4th, 2005, 01:12 AM	#18
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	I decided to try out the 3032 instead of the ATM10a. For anyone looking for a good value in mikes, the AT 30 Series seems to offer a lot for the money when you take a look at the specs and features. I see they've even got a large-diaphragm tube mic in the 30 Series, which doesn't even require any separate power supply for the tube other than regular 48V phantom. Wonder how that tube mic sounds.

June 4th, 2005, 10:22 PM	#20
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	I would still recommend getting a shotgun. I found that I could cut out alot of noise from the stands using mine. Sometimes, you do not get the ideal position either, so having a little more 'reach' helps. It will also minimize operator noise. ;)