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Roshdi Alkadri December 8th, 2009 06:21 PM

702 out into camera
 
Hi, does anyone see any benefit going out of the 702 and into the camera. Not just for a guide track,
Anyone actually used the audio going out of it and recorded into the camera and then using the camera's recorded audio, any benefits, experiences with this please?

Zack Allen December 9th, 2009 12:37 AM

Sounds like you're wanting to use your 702 as a mixer?

Mike Peter Reed December 9th, 2009 03:07 AM

One advantage will be the 702's limiters. Other than that, if you're recording single-system then a mixer would likely have many more advantages.

Something like Pluraleyes could automatically sync the 702 audio with the camera audio in post (I've yet to use it on a real job, I'm slightly skeptical but it does seem like it's relatively successful). Using double-system would give you more flexibility and likely sound much better.

Roshdi Alkadri December 9th, 2009 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack Allen (Post 1458066)
Sounds like you're wanting to use your 702 as a mixer?

yah, pretty much. I was thinking if the audio going into the camera top notch then i can use that, then reserve the 702's audio as a back-up. Sounds a little silly, but just wondered if someone has done this. I dont have the cables to go out of the 702 and into the camera yet.

Nathan Moody December 9th, 2009 06:27 PM

Provided you're sure you only need two channels, that you have the right TA-XLR cables, and that you bypass the camera's own preamps (usually craptastic), then sure. I've done this very thing with no issues. A MixPre or 302 mixer would be cheaper and a lot lighter, but if you already own a 702 and pretty much just want to use its limiters and preamps, yeah, it's a snap.

Roshdi Alkadri December 9th, 2009 08:14 PM

thats exactly what i was looking for. And of course we're bypassing the camera's pre-amps using line level. I already own the 702 and i thought it can serve a multi purpose mixer and recorder. I can use it as a mixer in this case and a recorder when i need to collect SFX, ambience, song recordings etc. I will give this a shot once i order the cables. Thanks.

BTW, im guessing the camera's limiters would be off when going line in.

Jeffery Magat December 10th, 2009 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roshdi Alkadri (Post 1458415)
thats exactly what i was looking for. And of course we're bypassing the camera's pre-amps using line level. I already own the 702 and i thought it can serve a multi purpose mixer and recorder. I can use it as a mixer in this case and a recorder when i need to collect SFX, ambience, song recordings etc. I will give this a shot once i order the cables. Thanks.

BTW, im guessing the camera's limiters would be off when going line in.

Depends what camera.. Like the Sony ex-3's a limiter is active even in line level.

Steve House December 10th, 2009 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roshdi Alkadri (Post 1458415)
thats exactly what i was looking for. And of course we're bypassing the camera's pre-amps using line level. I already own the 702 and i thought it can serve a multi purpose mixer and recorder. I can use it as a mixer in this case and a recorder when i need to collect SFX, ambience, song recordings etc. I will give this a shot once i order the cables. Thanks.

BTW, im guessing the camera's limiters would be off when going line in.

Just FYI, not all cameras, in fact most if not all prosumer cameras, do not bypass the mic preamps when using line in. Instead they simply innsert an attenuator just before the signal enters the preamp to drop it down to mic level, then the preamp raises it back up again.

Roshdi Alkadri December 10th, 2009 11:12 AM

Does the HVX200A do this too?


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