Rycote Hair on Rode Blimp? at DVinfo.net

Uli Mors · December 18th, 2009, 04:40 AM

Havent checked all numbers & sizes yet, but will any Rycote Wombat (dead Cat, Hair) fit on a Rode Blimp?

I found the blimb to be quite useful, but not for stronger winds. Want to try different hair on the blimp now...

Any suggestions?

Uli

Mark Boyer · December 18th, 2009, 11:10 AM

I use a cheapo blimp from India and a Rycote Windjammer dead cat fur cover. In high winds it works excellent.

Rycote has various sizes. Measure your blimp and compare to the Rycote specs. The windjammer for that unit should fit.

John Willett · December 21st, 2009, 02:23 AM

Rycote can make Windjammers in any size you want, all they need are the dimensions.

Renton Maclachlan · December 21st, 2009, 03:44 AM

For what it is worth...I've also got a el cheapo Indian Blimp and trialed it with its Indian furry about 400mm in front of a 400mm fan on full speed, and it cut all the wind noise totally...
I think I can tell a good thing when I see it - the Indian blimp looks to me to be pretty well made...no complaints at all...

Deepak Verma · December 21st, 2009, 05:37 AM

can you tell me the indian blimp makers name or company information..or anything that help me to find it..

Mark Boyer · December 21st, 2009, 11:13 AM

Link to the Cheapo India Blimp : The CineCity*::*Microphone Accessories*::*Cine Blimp Shockmount system

John Willett · December 22nd, 2009, 04:32 PM

You *do* get what you pay for in basket windshields.

There are several manufacturers who try and copy a Rycote - but if you do not fully understand all the science behind the design it can never be as good.

Yes, it may initially sound effective at stopping wind noise - but what does it do to the frequency response? How is it made? Will it fall apart after a couple of years because the copyist does not understand materials science? etc......

If you want cheap - personally, I would far rather use a Rycote S-series than a copy basket windshield - and - with the patented "Lyre" suspension that no-one can copy the Rycote is far better than any other in shock protection.

Renton Maclachlan · December 23rd, 2009, 12:22 PM

John: With all due respect, there is nothing extra fancy - material or otherwise - in a blimp. The Indian blimp looks to me to be very well made and the suspension system totally ok - especially for the cost!!! It was about 1/5th of the cost of the Rycote.

I cannot believe that paying 5x as much gets you 5x the quality. But I can imagine that paying 5x the cost would tend to make one seek to justify such a purchase... :-)

As for me, I am very pleased to get such good quality for such a cheap price...

I don't know anything about any difference between furries...

Mark Boyer · December 23rd, 2009, 02:10 PM

You are correct on the Rycote Blimp knockoffs.

On the Rycote fur cover vs. the knockoff the Rycote is better because the fur is longer.

I have made camera furry mic covers (when I can find the long hair material). I have done allot of searching in fabric shops and unless I want a fur cover in Hot pink the long gray fur material is unavalable and must be specially made for Rycote.

Renton Maclachlan · December 24th, 2009, 03:01 AM

The Indian furries fur is about 25mm...

Mario Vermunt · December 24th, 2009, 10:33 PM

I got myself an "Indian" windjammer as well and upgraded it with Rycote lyre suspension, works great. I needed the long version for my MKH815 and this one was really cheap. I do use a Rycote S for my Schoeps CMit-5.

John Willett · December 28th, 2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Boyer

You are correct on the Rycote Blimp knockoffs.

On the Rycote fur cover vs. the knockoff the Rycote is better because the fur is longer.

I have made camera furry mic covers (when I can find the long hair material). I have done allot of searching in fabric shops and unless I want a fur cover in Hot pink the long gray fur material is unavalable and must be specially made for Rycote.

The Rycote is not better because the fur is longer - it's better because the material is specifically designed to do the job - not just diameter of the "hair" but also the lengths of the different strands (and they are not all the same length) - how they are fitted to the backing (in a way that will minimise any high frequency loss), etc., etc., etc.. And this fur is manufactured specially for Rycote and no one else.

There is a lot of science behind the design of the Rycote that you do not realise if you are just copying the product without fully understanding all the science behind it.

December 18th, 2009, 04:40 AM	#1
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	Rycote Hair on Rode Blimp? Havent checked all numbers & sizes yet, but will any Rycote Wombat (dead Cat, Hair) fit on a Rode Blimp? I found the blimb to be quite useful, but not for stronger winds. Want to try different hair on the blimp now... Any suggestions? Uli

December 21st, 2009, 02:23 AM	#3
John Willett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 976	Rycote can make Windjammers in any size you want, all they need are the dimensions. __________________ John Willett - Sound-Link ProAudio and Circle Sound Services President: Fédération Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons

December 22nd, 2009, 04:32 PM	#7
John Willett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 976	You do get what you pay for in basket windshields. There are several manufacturers who try and copy a Rycote - but if you do not fully understand all the science behind the design it can never be as good. Yes, it may initially sound effective at stopping wind noise - but what does it do to the frequency response? How is it made? Will it fall apart after a couple of years because the copyist does not understand materials science? etc...... If you want cheap - personally, I would far rather use a Rycote S-series than a copy basket windshield - and - with the patented "Lyre" suspension that no-one can copy the Rycote is far better than any other in shock protection. __________________ John Willett - Sound-Link ProAudio and Circle Sound Services President: Fédération Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons

December 18th, 2009, 11:10 AM	#2
Mark Boyer Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bothell Washington Posts: 174	I use a cheapo blimp from India and a Rycote Windjammer dead cat fur cover. In high winds it works excellent. Rycote has various sizes. Measure your blimp and compare to the Rycote specs. The windjammer for that unit should fit.

December 21st, 2009, 03:44 AM	#4
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	For what it is worth...I've also got a el cheapo Indian Blimp and trialed it with its Indian furry about 400mm in front of a 400mm fan on full speed, and it cut all the wind noise totally... I think I can tell a good thing when I see it - the Indian blimp looks to me to be pretty well made...no complaints at all...

December 21st, 2009, 05:37 AM	#5
Deepak Verma New Boot Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Delhi India Posts: 8	can you tell me the indian blimp makers name or company information..or anything that help me to find it..

December 21st, 2009, 11:13 AM	#6
Mark Boyer Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bothell Washington Posts: 174	Link to the Cheapo India Blimp : The CineCity::Microphone Accessories::Cine Blimp Shockmount system

December 23rd, 2009, 12:22 PM	#8
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	John: With all due respect, there is nothing extra fancy - material or otherwise - in a blimp. The Indian blimp looks to me to be very well made and the suspension system totally ok - especially for the cost!!! It was about 1/5th of the cost of the Rycote. I cannot believe that paying 5x as much gets you 5x the quality. But I can imagine that paying 5x the cost would tend to make one seek to justify such a purchase... :-) As for me, I am very pleased to get such good quality for such a cheap price... I don't know anything about any difference between furries...

December 23rd, 2009, 02:10 PM	#9
Mark Boyer Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bothell Washington Posts: 174	You are correct on the Rycote Blimp knockoffs. On the Rycote fur cover vs. the knockoff the Rycote is better because the fur is longer. I have made camera furry mic covers (when I can find the long hair material). I have done allot of searching in fabric shops and unless I want a fur cover in Hot pink the long gray fur material is unavalable and must be specially made for Rycote.

December 24th, 2009, 03:01 AM	#10
Renton Maclachlan Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,180	The Indian furries fur is about 25mm...

December 24th, 2009, 10:33 PM	#11
Mario Vermunt Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rotterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 77	I got myself an "Indian" windjammer as well and upgraded it with Rycote lyre suspension, works great. I needed the long version for my MKH815 and this one was really cheap. I do use a Rycote S for my Schoeps CMit-5.