Recording in an adverse environment

Bob Hart · March 18th, 2010, 11:15 AM

Steve.

Normalising in Cool Edit Pro as I interpret it, seems to bring the whole recording up to in my case, 95% of saturation at peaks without altering the relativity of the softer areas of the recording.

I have applied no compression which I understand pulls the highlights down closer to the general level of the recording.

The clip posted is an early version for the orchestra members and others in the "I Belong To The Shadows" crew to promptly hear back their work.

My job is now pretty much done. Better hands and ears than mine ( about 15db low on the right side @ 4000Hz ) can take it to the next post-production level.

Claire Buckley · March 27th, 2010, 01:57 PM

Hi Bob.

Thanks for the link to YouTube.

I think (as was discussed earlier) this project would have benefitted from spacious acoustics, although I must say you have done a great job given the circumstances.

Personally, I did feel that some members of the orchestra didn't quite come up to spec. There are some passages that could have been performed better. And here's where larger acoustics can come to the rescue.

Love Perth. I have been on a number of occasions visiting your TV stations. Enjoyed the Margaret Valley wines especially.

:)

Bob Hart · March 28th, 2010, 12:28 PM

Claire.

Thanks for your observations. There's better things I could have done with the recording but this was a baby on a budget.

Margaret River. Yes. it is one of our jewels these days, a far cry from when our wine and our vinegar were far less separated as to taste and quality.

The Fremantle Symphony members are not paid or salaried performers and comprise, students, retired people and people with other dayjobs.

To hear something come together from concept to performance in the space of two weeks was still a thrill. The folk there are genuine lovers of music.

Aaron Courtney · March 28th, 2010, 04:43 PM

just to follow up with what steve mentioned, you might want to give the mastering eng the raw stems from the recording as well as your normalized mix because the "finalizing" outboard gear is going to do a better job than running a simple mathematical algorithm (normalizing) in your software editor. That way, he/she has more options in post, that's all.

But good job with working in such a difficult environment.

Bob Hart · March 28th, 2010, 08:27 PM

Aaron.

The original recordings will be archived. Their purposes were to demonstrate and prove a concept and they have done so admirably.

It is now up to the production entities to do with them what they will.

Thanks again to everyone who gave their helpful advice and information. My sense is that it would have been a frustrating mess if I had gone it entirely alone.

And of course, thanks to Chris and the other wranglers and sponsors who initiated and support this site. There is lots of good stuff that would not have happened if dvinfo was not here.

That is in no small way attributable to the affirmative oversight with which dvinfo is maintained and people are re-directed to task when propagating unproductive forment and contention becomes their objective.

March 27th, 2010, 01:57 PM	#32
Claire Buckley Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 176	Hi Bob. Thanks for the link to YouTube. I think (as was discussed earlier) this project would have benefitted from spacious acoustics, although I must say you have done a great job given the circumstances. Personally, I did feel that some members of the orchestra didn't quite come up to spec. There are some passages that could have been performed better. And here's where larger acoustics can come to the rescue. Love Perth. I have been on a number of occasions visiting your TV stations. Enjoyed the Margaret Valley wines especially. :) __________________ Women don't hit harder, they just hit lower!

March 18th, 2010, 11:15 AM	#31
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Steve. Normalising in Cool Edit Pro as I interpret it, seems to bring the whole recording up to in my case, 95% of saturation at peaks without altering the relativity of the softer areas of the recording. I have applied no compression which I understand pulls the highlights down closer to the general level of the recording. The clip posted is an early version for the orchestra members and others in the "I Belong To The Shadows" crew to promptly hear back their work. My job is now pretty much done. Better hands and ears than mine ( about 15db low on the right side @ 4000Hz ) can take it to the next post-production level.

March 28th, 2010, 12:28 PM	#33
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Claire. Thanks for your observations. There's better things I could have done with the recording but this was a baby on a budget. Margaret River. Yes. it is one of our jewels these days, a far cry from when our wine and our vinegar were far less separated as to taste and quality. The Fremantle Symphony members are not paid or salaried performers and comprise, students, retired people and people with other dayjobs. To hear something come together from concept to performance in the space of two weeks was still a thrill. The folk there are genuine lovers of music.

March 28th, 2010, 04:43 PM	#34
Aaron Courtney Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 229	just to follow up with what steve mentioned, you might want to give the mastering eng the raw stems from the recording as well as your normalized mix because the "finalizing" outboard gear is going to do a better job than running a simple mathematical algorithm (normalizing) in your software editor. That way, he/she has more options in post, that's all. But good job with working in such a difficult environment.

March 28th, 2010, 08:27 PM	#35
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Aaron. The original recordings will be archived. Their purposes were to demonstrate and prove a concept and they have done so admirably. It is now up to the production entities to do with them what they will. Thanks again to everyone who gave their helpful advice and information. My sense is that it would have been a frustrating mess if I had gone it entirely alone. And of course, thanks to Chris and the other wranglers and sponsors who initiated and support this site. There is lots of good stuff that would not have happened if dvinfo was not here. That is in no small way attributable to the affirmative oversight with which dvinfo is maintained and people are re-directed to task when propagating unproductive forment and contention becomes their objective.