30v phantom power with boom mics at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio

All Things Audio
Everything Audio, from acquisition to postproduction.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old July 26th, 2010, 03:19 PM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: norman, OK
Posts: 111
30v phantom power with boom mics

Azden SGM-2X I see this mic uses a AAA battery. Can the Rode NTG-1 run on a battery as well?

The reason I ask is that I'm looking into an old field mixer that only has 30v phantom power. I need to make sure it will work with one of these boom mics (or use batteries instead).
Jonathan Grant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 26th, 2010, 04:34 PM   #2
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,742
Rode NTG-1 is phantom power only, no battery, and Rode's manual for the NTG-1 states a full 48v is required. The NTG-2 is the same mic but with a battery option.
__________________
Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!
Steve House is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2010, 05:34 PM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arcata, Ca
Posts: 750
Just stay away from that old mixer. 48v Phantom is what about every mic uses. Don't try to cut corners on audio. You'll regret it. Start with a Sound Devices MixPre (665.00) and you'll never look back. Short of that there are the JuicedLink mixers, but there are compromises like no limiters.


Oh and stay away from Azden mics too. Total crap IMO.
__________________
My Work: http://www.youtube.com/ChadWork1
Sony FS5 :: Panasonic GH4 :: Sony PMW-EX1 :: FCPx :: AT4053b :: Rode NTG-3,
Chad Johnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2010, 05:39 PM   #4
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,742
True Chad ... friends don't let friends use Azden
__________________
Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!
Steve House is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2010, 05:50 PM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arcata, Ca
Posts: 750
LOL Steve! Yes Azden ANYTHING is a foolish choice. For inexpensive solutions go with Rode in the Mic department. Great quality at very reasonable prices.
__________________
My Work: http://www.youtube.com/ChadWork1
Sony FS5 :: Panasonic GH4 :: Sony PMW-EX1 :: FCPx :: AT4053b :: Rode NTG-3,
Chad Johnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2010, 06:57 PM   #6
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Camas, WA, USA
Posts: 5,513
I'm also a non-Azden guy. Rode and Audio Technica are nice mid-priced brands. Sennheiser has some stuff that isn't terribly priced (and some that is). AKG might be worth considering (I'd love to try a Blue Line with a CK93 capsule as an indoor hyper.) But Azden? No. Avoid Nady too. Their wireless stuff is barely adequate for live use, let alone film work.

For outboard gear, amps, and processing boxes Behringer is as cheap as you can buy, but it actually works. It's not great, but it can help a starving musician get off the ground.
__________________
Jon Fairhurst
Jon Fairhurst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2010, 07:32 PM   #7
Trustee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 1,177
I have no more fondness for Azden than anyone else here, and I am not recommending them.

That being said, only some (likely way less than half) the condensor microphones in the world require a full 48V phantom power. A great many can operate to full spec on 30 or 24 or even 12 volts. And most will operate on less than the specified voltage with the only degradation being the ability to handle loud SPL.

I have seen a website that lists what mics will actually operate on (vs. the mfg specs), but I don't have the URL at the moment.
Richard Crowley is online now   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2010, 10:41 PM   #8
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Camas, WA, USA
Posts: 5,513
Yes, back on thread...

Richard, that's true. In fact, the juicedLink preamps offer +48V and +12V options. The battery lasts longer with +12V than +48V. And I agree that headroom is likely the only thing to suffer for most mics. It's not like mics include a 47V diode to make sure that we don't cheat. :)
__________________
Jon Fairhurst
Jon Fairhurst is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > All Things Audio

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:23 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network