The Definitive SD302 to Zoom H4n thread.
Okay, this thread is far from definitive, but hopefully by the time it's finished it'll be comprehensive.
I recently purchased a SD 302 mixer (hasn't arrived yet) and I'm trying to work out all the logistics of how I will be connected the two devices. My understanding (and do correct me if I'm wrong) is that I have the following options, given the necessary cords/adapters: SD302 XLR Out to Zoom H4n XLR In SD302 XLR Out to Zoom H4n 1/4" In SD302 XLR Out to Zoom H4n 3.5mm mic in SD302 Tape out/Mixer Out* to Zoom H4n XLR in SD302 Tape out/Mixer Out* to Zoom H4n 1/4" in SD302 Tape out/Mixer Out* to Zoom H4n 3.5mm mic in *Tape out is unbalanced stereo on TA3 type connect and level is fixed at -15dBu according to the manual. Tape out requires the Sound Devices 3.5 mm to TA3-F link cable ($26). Dan McComb has a tutorial about connecting the MixPre to the Zoom H4n here: Zoom H4N with Sound Devices Mixpre: how to properly connect the two for pristine audio | Dan McComb and Connecting Zoom H4N to Sound Devices MixPre – Part II | Dan McComb However, the MixPre has line level output only whereas the SD302 has line level or mic level or somewhere in between. According to the manual, attenuation can be set from 0-16dbu and from and 40-56 as well as -10, -40, and -56. The problem appears to be that going from XLR on the SD302 to XLR on the H4n still activates the H4n's preamps and defeats the purpose. So the options left are to go into the 1/4" inputs or the 3.5mm mic input. Dan points out in regards to the MixPre: Quote:
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I was hoping you all could help me find the simplest solution (buying a 702 doesn't count). dvinfo threads of relevance: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/all-thin...d-302-a-2.html http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/all-thin...e-out-mic.html |
Re: The Definitive SD302 to Zoom H4n thread.
So what did you discover?
I want to use my 302 mixer tape out to send audio to my mic level input on my Tascam DR-05, so I can use the xlr line outs for my camera line level input. So I assume I will need about a 15 db attenuator on the left and right channels. How can I build them with what value resistors? Or does someone sell one that works with the TA3F to stereo miniplug adapter? |
Re: The Definitive SD302 to Zoom H4n thread.
You can reduce the output of the 302 to mic level in the menus, avoiding the pad altogether.
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As someone who has made their own cables, adapters, pads, iso transformers, etc. for several decades, I have sympathy for those who must pay $45 for a store-bought pad with maybe $1 worth of resistors inside. |
Re: The Definitive SD302 to Zoom H4n thread.
SD has an attenuation diagram on their website for using the unbalanced 'tape out' at mic level.
Adding a Mono Mic or Tape Level Output to the 302|Sound Notes|Sound Devices, LLC But why use mic level ? The 'Tape out' line level connection is an option with the 302> Zoom. |
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See the manual for the 302 on page 21, describing how to lower the mixer's main output level to properly match a mic level input using the mixer's menus settings. No pad needed between the devices.
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Larry mentioned the Tape out output so he could send line out out from the mains. Does the SD 302 let you adjust the Tape out level?
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Re: The Definitive SD302 to Zoom H4n thread.
No, the SD 302 does not have an internal 'Tape out' level adjust .
My previous post was directed to Larry, who stated "I want to use my 302 mixer tape out to send audio to my mic level input on my Tascam DR-05, so I can use the XLR line outs for my camera line level input." Furthermore, I don't know if the DR-05 could handle the 302s tape-out level w/o attenuation. And to elaborate, I don't see that much of an advantage to recording to the DR-05 in addition to the camera, (except for back-up or transcription purposes) since the input would go though an additional 'less than stellar' unbalanced preamp. Otherwise I would concur with using the 302's internal main out attenuation facility. |
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