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Emil Langballe May 4th, 2012 05:50 AM

Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
I have the Sennheiser EW 100 G2 SK100 D Bodypack Transmitter, frequency range 786-822 Mhz. However I lost the matching receiver, and need to replace it.

Will the Sennheiser EK 100 G3 Portable Mic Receiver 780-822 MHz work?

Sennheiser EK-100 G3 Portable Mic Receiver 780-822 MHz

I asked the staff in the online store, where I'm about to buy it, but they did not think it would work, even though its roughly the same frequency range.

Anybody out there who knows?

Many thanks

Emil

Richard Crowley May 4th, 2012 06:01 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
It might work. Like the online shop people, I would bet against it. Determining whether it would work requires either access to information not readily available, or simply trying it.

Steve House May 4th, 2012 12:02 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
AFAIK, the two are compatible where the frequencies overlap.

Rick Reineke May 4th, 2012 12:31 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
It should, I mix and match 'Block A' G2 and 3's occasionally. Make sure all the other pertinent settings are the same like the pilot tone.. You may have to custom set some channels in the user bank, some of the G2/3 factory preset channels differ.

Kevin McRoberts May 4th, 2012 02:24 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
I regularly use a G1 and G2 together, and I believe the 2 and 3 are much closer in operation.

Paul R Johnson May 4th, 2012 03:56 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
All three of the generations of Sennheiser use compatible specs, apart from the pilot tone on the original, but you can switch that off anyway. So dial up the same frequency and away you go. The G3 has a wider range, so if you select a channel the others cannot tune to - of course that's a problem.

Emil Langballe May 4th, 2012 05:38 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Great news, thanks everyone!

@Paul R Johnson: What exactly do you mean, when you say 'apart from the pilot tone on the original'?

Sorry, but I'm very inexperienced in this field.

Thanks

Emil

John Willett May 8th, 2012 08:25 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
All Sennheiser evolution transmitters are fully compatible - even back to the original G1 series.

There are just a few things to watch:-

1) The newer ones have a much wider frequency window than the earlier ones - so you have to have the same frequency on both units.

2) If you use a G1 transmitter with a G2 or G3 receiver, then you have to switch "Pilot OFF" on the receiver as the G1 series did not have Pilot squelch.

3) If you use a mono radiomic. transmitter with an IEM receiver, you have to switch "Pilot OFF" on the receiver as the mono transmitters use a different pilot frequency than the stereo ones.

All evolution series use HDX noise reduction, so they will all work with each other - G1, G2, G3 and 100 series, 300 series, 500 series and also including the new 2000 series - they will all work with each other.

The extreme being a G1 unit with a 2000 series unit - it's all OK.

John Willett May 8th, 2012 08:26 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul R Johnson (Post 1731484)
All three of the generations of Sennheiser use compatible specs, apart from the pilot tone on the original, but you can switch that off anyway.

Yes - but the original did NOT use pilot tone - only the new G2, G3 and 2000 series - but what you say is basically correct.

David Aliperti May 20th, 2015 08:53 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
since the g3 rx is diversity, is the general reception quality better?

Rick Reineke May 20th, 2015 09:16 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Sound quality wise, there would be negligible difference between a G2 and G3 EK100 portable receiver if interference is not the issue.
The diversify system primarily addresses multi-path interference.

David Aliperti May 20th, 2015 02:44 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
with g2's I have noises after 15 meters and very often in some environments (arbour) also at ridiculous distances I have those noises, of course probably a more powerful (more then 30 mw) may help but also a diversity receiver, is this right?

Paul R Johnson May 21st, 2015 12:56 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
You don't say what noises, but if it's hiss and swooshing, the it's an RF problem, and quite normal. You can improve it by making sure the aerials are clear of obstructions, and not pushed hard against a body, and yes a diversity receiver works better, but on a camera mounted receiver, frankly not much better, because if you are in a null, then both aerials will probably be in the same one. Spaced aerial diversity works an awful lot better.

More power helps, but is not a panacea. Battery power can get you from earth to space, but megawatts might not give you a picture across town on your TV.

Greg Miller May 21st, 2015 05:26 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul R Johnson (Post 1887141)
megawatts might not give you a picture across town on your TV.

That's pretty hard to imagine, unless the TV has a resistive termination substituted for a proper antenna, and then the entire receiver is located inside a well-shielded cage or buried below ground. Megawatts is a LOT of power and a LOT of field strength!

John Willett May 21st, 2015 05:37 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Aliperti (Post 1887102)
since the g3 rx is diversity, is the general reception quality better?

Yes - the G3 is generally better than the G2 in several ways, but the diversity operation of the G3 EK receiver *does* make the signal more secure.

John Willett May 21st, 2015 05:39 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul R Johnson (Post 1887141)
More power helps, but is not a panacea. Battery power can get you from earth to space, but megawatts might not give you a picture across town on your TV.

LOL

Megawatts will give you a picture on your TV across the country, if not the continent.

I presume you meant Milliwatts .....

Rick Reineke May 21st, 2015 08:39 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Many folks use an external scanner for frequency selection. The internal scanner on the G2/3 receiver is next to useless in a populated RF environment.
In lieu of an external scanner, the Sennheiser on-line frequency finder can help find frequencies clear of TV interference..

Ryan Graves May 29th, 2015 11:44 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
I've tried it and it doesn't work. But speaking of...do people on here that use G3's or G2's get crackling / static here and there? Most of the time it's good, but man, some of my weddings have really been adversely affected by static in the lapel mic. I run that on right Channel and don't give it phantom power because it's got batteries already...and then my Azden mic is on the left channel, and it's phantom powered. I film with Panasonic HMC-150's. But for some reason, I don't know why - because I'm more of a videophile than an audiophile - I get static here and there....very, very intermittent but sometimes it can happen right in the vows, just a quick crackle/blip and then it resolves...and then maybe a few minutes later. UGH! Anyone know how to solve this or what might be causing it?

Check out my website - I have a wedding sample on there (ours) for what it SHOULD sound like...but imagine in there a bit of crackle every now and then. Truly frustrating!

Sincerely,
Ryan Graves
Seattle Wedding Videography
Wedding Video | Seattle, WA Wedding Videographer

Rick Reineke May 29th, 2015 02:03 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
"I've tried it and it doesn't work."
-- It does if the transmitter/receiver frequency is set the same. To do this, both units must be in the same channel block. The pilot tone should be set the same on both as well.
Much has been discussed about interference with the G2/3, (and others) search this and the DVX audio group.

Paul R Johnson May 29th, 2015 02:42 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
No John, I meant Megawatts (well almost) - we've had quite a lot of complaints in our area since the digital switchover where quite a few places in the City get quite poor reception - 0.7MW across all the multiplexes. 12 miles is a really long way - and this is with receive aerials with bags of gain - whereas line of site on UHF with 1W and a quarter wave to the space shuttle was trouble free. Power isn't everything.

Larry Vaughn February 28th, 2018 09:29 PM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
John, do you turn off the pilot tone on the mono transmitter as well as the pilot tone on the IEM receiver? You didn't say to turn off the pilot tone of the mono transmitter, so I'm going to answer my question and say no, just turn off the pilot tone on the IEM. But I am wondering why you would need it on the transmitter if you are not using it on the receiver.

Are any of the belt pack G series transmitters stereo transmitters or compatible with the IEM receiver regarding the pilot tone?

Some people say the IEMs sound better than Comteks, which is what I use mine for.

Paul R Johnson March 1st, 2018 01:30 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Long time ago, but the pilot tone issue is only when using G1 kit. The transmitters did t use it, so on a receiver expecting it to open the audio path, they're silent. Since this topic started, I have had a little issue with multiple mics mixing G2 and G3. The latest ones can squeeze more channels into the same space, and as a consequence a G2 transmitter can mess up the frequencies the usual calculators suggest. It then takes some messing around to get intermodal free performance, but when using just a couple of channels, I pull kit out of the case and use it without reading the labels!

There are no portable battery operated stereo transmitters, only the mains powered ones. I do use my Sennheiser IEMs occasionally on the belt pack transmitters and that seems fine, and the Sennheiser IEMs work fine on Trantec IEM transmitters, but in mono. Their stereo systems being incompatible.

There are a number of Chinese IEM products available now, and watch out for these because they're pretending to be stereo, and they're not!

David Peterson March 5th, 2018 07:12 AM

Re: Does a Sennheiser G2 transmitter work with a G3 receiver?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul R Johnson (Post 1941820)
There are a number of Chinese IEM products available now, and watch out for these because they're pretending to be stereo, and they're not!

Even the genuine product is not stereo if you're using the bodypack transmitter.


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